King: “murder everybody” Kalista: “I feel like you’re being a bit unreasonab-“ Hecarim: “FUCK YES”

I like that she doesn't have any wounds and is bare-footed w/o major armor; it gives her that "spirit" vibe, like no she isn't someone who's now a zombie and stuff, but rather something that just appears when you summon it- something that doesn't care if it gets stabbed again if it can kill the betrayer.

I think the cleanup is coming because of the Mordekaiser rework coming.

Kalista still has one of the saddest voice lines imo Periodically she will simply say: "Kalista, that was our name". The delivery is spot-on and with this latest short story it's fully fleshed out and is just as sad as I had expected (in that she no longer remembers who she is and her sense of self is being eroded by/mixed with the multitudes of oathsworn souls bound to her). I used to play her a ton but the nerfs along with a general meta shift have made me prefer not to. On the plus side, Essence Reaver is back so I'm back to a build I like on Sivir/Ashe.

Love when you are doing an analysis about underrated champions from the League of Legends. It's kinda annoying when only the populars only get the lore, skins and art the most.

Well all that talk about accuracy makes me recall that time you said in fantasy, it ain’t about realism, but believability, as a spectre she wouldn’t need armour at all, so the just enough armour to make it believable that she was a warrior seems good enough.

Fascinating watching so many people a year ago not expecting the Ruined King as the motivation for the Shadow Isles updates.

Her lack of armor could be explained by her not expecting actual combat on the Blessed Isles, but that could be considered a little hand-wave-y.

Kalista having her feet exposed + having blue skin sells more the idea of her being some kind of zombie/undead, although I always saw her more like a ghost? like that's not her real body, that's just a mix of souls who happen to look like that because that's the form the assumed for the spirit of revenge, which is why I like her not being wounded at all? Like they could break down her body, but not her spirit

I think Kalista really shines the most when including Ledros. As of the current lore, Kalista as an individual character shifted from a person to an autonomous idea similar to Kindred. It works great as a tool for myths and to build up the world but leaves her without much current personality. The continuation of conflict in her story no longer comes directly from her but from Ledros' attempts to bring her back, only to fail time and time again. I think Ledros' inner suffering is truly highlighted by the fact that Thresh, someone who takes great enjoyment of torturing someone himself, is satisfied by simply standing by and watching. With the ending of the short story and Ledros' returning to the mist I can only really hope we get more of his character.

Oh god. I trully missed this videos

Wish you would have picked up on the symbolism of her stacking spears each being a soul she’s picked up on her journey. Each spear she pulls out makes others feel their pain of betrayal.

"Who the hell goes to war with their thighs exposed, anyway?" Greeks, romans and macedonians, for example :v And i'm so happy you're back with WTDW

I think her armor is fine (minus the boob plate). I think they were aiming for the Roman style for it. Taking away her boots actually helps with more readability. If you had to track a jumping spear lady, the legs have to stand out from a semi top down perspective Edit: the helm is a bit more akin to eastern militaries but the rest fall in place with Romans to me

Classical Greek armor did have exposed arms and lower thighs, although it also included greaves, which Kalista doesn't have. EDIT: How did I not at first see Kalista's greaves?

I love the concept of ‘Inconvenient Friend Kalista.’ It’s frigging beautiful, and I very much missed the things like that you come up with for the dislike button ramble. Keep it up, mate!

Kalista's my /favorite/ champ, honestly. Thank you for the clean dissection of her design. Love your analysis vids, stumbled on your channel a couple days ago, keep up the good work.

boob armor is fully valid and makes a lot of sense on a female character, male armors often accentuate male attributes like the chest, it makes sense that a female warrior would have an armor that accentute female attribute. i would recomend checking out shadiversity's video on boob armors

ooh this was so much fun, thank you for coming back to making "what's the deal with" videos again where you just sit down and talk like this. I love it so much! ^u^

yesssss shadow isles characters, please do yorick eventually

Having the thighs exposed has also the purpose of having more exposed blue skin. Why have a blue-skinned character if we can't see their skin? I'm not saying is either good or bad, I'm just saying that is probably what the designer was thinking about.

I like kalista's big monster hands too tbh Definitely helps with the spear tossing idea

This is definitely the best sumup of a lore, delivers the story perfectly and is impossibly entertaining xD

Hey! Congratulations on another great video! Just wanted to say I love your work, and I liked specially this video because of the way you've told the story, by interpreting it instead of reading the thing and comenting on it like in ooooolder videos. Sorry if I dont sound very polite and something I said comes out wrong, english is not my first language but I try my best ^^

I miss this type of stuff, please continue to make more soon

Maybe she should look more like a warrior version of Tim Burton's Corpse Bride. The bride had open wounds, tears, and bones sticking out.

For some reason I am more pissed of at the Ruined King, then Hecarim. Yes , yes I know his spouse died and left him in a vulnerable state but seriously they can both eat it and Kalista should have had a chance to stab them both in the face.

18:00 / 19:00? i disagree with that When i first saw kalistw passive i was freaked out Her bare feet made her more monstrou, paranormal, and unnatural which fit her undead character.

I really like Kalista, she's the kind of champion that's so great in every single way, it makes me wish I could play her better.

I did admire league stretching out and trying new designs. Kalista was intresting. Also you got a like just for how much detail you went into at the end with the vengeance spirit

What i like the most about Kalista is that I usually really get into character while playing her

Listen Buddy! 1000 years ive waited for a video!

Hello TBSkyen, I don't know if you're reading this but I'm a 17 years old student in Canada and I've always like your content as it really stands out as more sophisticated and more educational than other league content creators, so it's always fun to listen to your insight. I had a bonus assignment in English about doing a podcast review, and I choose this video to analyze and further back up your thesis about Kalista being a good design in league of legends, whilst expanding on some of the stuff you said here like boobplates and the usage of female designs just to entice teens. I was hoping you'd see this and maybe wanted to read my review, nevertheless, keep up the good work!

I don’t play adc because I SUCK at ranged champs, but I can say that playing Kalista is a wild ride of a power fantasy. Martial Poise’s movement is a big part of that, and I’m really glad they made her look so Spartan bc she’s hard as FUCK!!

I am greatly looking forward to morde rework. Coming in the next month. Glad to see you actually give rito an approval for a champ design, rare!

@T B Skyen We are the chat of Vengeance. We have come for you traitor. Myla will have her revenge !

Hey, love what you do, I wish you all the good in the world ! I wanted to ask what background music you use (is it a mix of the LoL music, in this case, which one, or did you do it ?). See you in your next video! :)

About the trailing blood thing. Could they have her bright teal drops of ghostly liquid? Something that could be interpreted as blood but does have to be.

You ask the rhetorical question about who goes to war with their thigh exposed, and there is a historical precedent for this. The armour that the Roman Soldiers only reached to just above their knees, and it was never plate armour like we see in medieval Europe, but more like a short metal skirt in some cases. Granted this was partially because their shield (the Scutum) was large enough to protect their legs already, and so there was no need to armour them up. There are other reasons that I am not knowledgable enough to explain, but judging by Kalista's armour, the "skirt" she has could very well be a ruined piece of armour, of roughly the same design as the roman soldier's. So depending on the military tactics and fighting style of that ancient kingdom, it's not impossible that theirs was similar to ancient Rome.

Kalista is one of my favorite champions design-wise. Glad you got to her. I wish I was better at playing with her.

Around 17:30 ish you started talking about how you think it would be more interesting if she was more genderless. And while I agree with you, I also think having a explicitly feminin revenge spirit is interesting. Revenge is frequently a very masculine motivation. Fully agree with you on the "boob-plate is rather stupid" front, but I do think this is a interesting archetype to have made feminine.

I know I am quite late to the game, but you talked about the armor, and with my interests, I feel a need to leave a few thoughts. I would on principle agree that Kalista could/should start looking a lot less like directly a woman, and more fluid in her expression. However, if the armor is the armor she wore in life, it makes more sense for the armor to keep the shape of her breasts. Then it may be a discussion of whether her being more of a spirit would/should allow her to change how her armor looks. Regarding armor itself. Nowadays, there are a lot of ideas of how plate armor should look om people. Especially how it should look on women. Therefore, there is a lot of discussion about "boob armor", and whether it is appropriate or would look like that, if women were to wear armor. Now, we do have depictions of Joan of Arc that shows that she was basically just wearing the same design as a man wearing armor, meaning the chest plate looks similar to a sort of pot belly that goes into a slim waist. HOWEVER! We have also good reason to believe that these traits would've been seen as attractive on a man of that time, and that is why the armor looked like it. So Joan of Arc might just be wearing mans armor, or the armor made for her was just made like the standard back then. Throughout much of history, plate armor mimics the traits that would be seen as attractive by the wearer. It was more or less only men wearing armor, so it mimiced attractive male traits. There are examples of ancient roman chest plates that have pecs and abs, and there are medieval armors that have the most insane codpieces. Because armor often also conveys sex appeal. I am saying this because, T B Skyen is 100% correct when saying that showing some sort of chest/breasts form on armor is probably the easiest way to convey that the armored person is indeed a woman. BUT, there is a good historical precedent for the possibility that womens armor would've been made with boobs, and in some situations, perhaps even nipples. Those would probably be few and far between, as they would probably be the more expensive kind. The design I find more likely to be the common design for womens armor, would be that the chest area still has more room, but it wouldn't show as 2 individual breasts. The design of Bo-Katan Kryze's armor in The Mandalorian kinda shows what I mean regarding extra chest room without it being individual breasts, in case someone needs a visual reference.

Actuallly ancient roman legionaries didn't wear any real leg armor what so ever, granted it was because their shields protected that area most of the time. Something similar could be possible for Kalista the warrior (opposed to Kalista the undead spirit) but overtime as people forgot about Kalista's people they forgot about their battle tactics as well. In fact Kalista's outfit doesn't look that different from what roman legions wore (and yes they essentially had bare leg and arms , apart from the shoulders and parts of the upper arms).

Here’s my question: how the hell did people figure out the invocation to summon Kalista? How did the people of Runeterra know that you can hammer nails in an effigy to make her show up? Did she just roll up to someone during a Harrowing and say “Yo fam, if you’re ever betrayed, do this ritual and I’ve got your back?” I feel like that’s an aspect of her lore that Riot should really elaborate on: who was her first pledge, and how did that knowledge spread?

Question at 10:30 you talked about league not having a bigger story so would the warmother comics about ashe not count Just curious

You forgot one of the stories, :( was hoping you’d go through it, it’s called The Echos Left Behind, was a fantastic read and focused on kalista and how the vengeance effects her

Have you ever thought about doing dota2 characters? I would love to see that

So What Im Hearing Is, More Body Horror In League. And Im Here For That, Bring It.

Hey TB I had a question about the KZfaq merch that you are selling. Is it possible that you make an alternate version of the "let's watch anime and bitch about the character design" with the words "play games" instead of watch anime? I don't watch a lot of anime but I like the idea of the shirt^^ and on your channel you are mostly taking about games so... Just an idea :3

LIKE BREATHING IN SULFUR CRAWLING IN MY SKIN!!!!

Personally her armor is like fucking shattered, and I find she looks like a Corpse you dug out of a grave, especially with important facets and organic bits of her armor. Like there should have been cloth or leather somewhere in that mix

I could be wrong but didn't Roman solider have bear legs and arms?

Kalista is my favourite character in League and I'm so happy that you made this analysis on her because I love how you are so critical with everything. Awesome video!! 😊

#ourlad tb skyen your local void friend here to ask, hey the void? Its really disconnected from everything (yes i am that curious cat person who's sent like 3 void anons). It's got the tinyest little corner of lore. So, how about when you get some time, wanna really sit down and go through some unupdated lore bits, maybe make a video on the voidborn as a whole. Im just like, mega sad my favorite region is gonna be in no update limbo hell for eternity. I love my bugs.

I'm kinda interested with her and Ledros' relationship

00:20 It's because Mordekaisers rework is coming.

So Kalistar is a warrior version of Hell girl from the anime show named Hell girl ?

Also if you put armour on her legs and arms it might mess up her color design a little, and it might be harder to communicate that’s she is undead without her skeletal limbs and ghostly glow.

Only I see "Kalistar" in the video icon? O_o

Nice! Im a goblin today :D

M O R D E K A I S E R

MORDE REWORK BOIS

OMG I thought this day would never come!! HE IS ACTUALLY BEING NICE????? ;)

TB Skyen should have a talk with Shadversity about boob plate

When do we get more asmr?

Do Taliyah pls

I didnt finish the video yet, but if there are no 'Notebook' references I'll be sad.

Are you a designer yourself? You seem like a professional discussing the design

So... she's Undyne of LoL, right?

Now three years later the lol universe will get its first novel where kalista is the main character

So, Kalista is the jigoku shoujo (Hell Girl). I loved that anime xD

I do think they made Kalista female and wanted to show her as female instead is because she looks based off the greek goddess of vengeance and justice (nemesis and the furies, most of the furies), this is also why i think her light armor looks greco-roman to me. If i would change anything of her it would be make her legs like a shadowy flowing thing, so she could still be fairly quickly while moving, i just think its too silly this spirit of vengeance that bounces around.

Pointy armor

22:43 talking shit about my Wai’fu >:|

you can't show bones in china :P

I wonder then how else could a character show femininity if it wasn't boob plates in the armor? Any good examples?

I wonder what she looked like when she was alive...

i think im necrophile cuz i think that Kalista is very pretty

You made the dislike button sound so inticing

Kalista not being at all in the Ruined King videogame will forever be funny to me, nobody cares about this girl

Your little rant about boob plate makes me want a game where anyone can buy and wear boob plate. Where anyone could buy and wear non-boob plate.

7:55: So, Kalista is now the only champion who still interacts with "summoners" in the lore? 11:05: You'll be familiar with that standard female body shape if you play _any_ fantasy video game. Or non-fantasy video game. Or consumed basically any media where the artists get to choose the character's body shape. 20:25: A few red accents where the spears poke her, at least.

I too will nver stop disliking Kai'sa and her lore/design until they fix/update her and give her a VU. She desperately needs it because as she stands she darn near completely fails to meet the expectations of ANY part of her tropes... Void Hunter/Survivor puh-lease she couldn't survive a day in the void, and she basically "hunts" the void equivalent of rats and cats. She doesn't have the mental fortitude or fire power to take out an actual void monster on the scale that the Ascended had to fight....so where does that leave her if she can't do what other especially strong or smart or group Runeterrians can do?

I do not agree with taking her Identety. She is a folklore, she is refered too as "Lady Vengence". Her ghost body is the avatar of their combined hate and lust for vengence.

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I think a better question is "Who the hell is Kalista?"

Kinda sad that a 2014 skin is better than a 2020 and 2023 skin.

What's the deal with TWWWWWWWWWWWWWITCH ...and/or Jinx