Very informative. So many variants. I’m 63 and just bought my first Mosan. An 1891/59. Gun shop didn’t quite know much about it. Got it for $300. I was thrilled

Big sam i lost my job recently so ibe been pretty down in the dumps so you mentioning me has brightened up my whole week thank you so much ps im hoping for an m44 as my first mosin 😆

I can confirm that Big Sam will help you. I've sent messages to him before about Mosin rifles I have run across and he was extremely helpful. Good luck Mosin hunting!

I just found my first Finnish M39 I’ve seen in person while working a local show. The gun is practically 100% perfect condition. The guy told me it was a arsenal refinish. I was blown away by its beauty and had to have it. My shop was kind enough to pick it up for me so I could put it on layaway. It was priced at $1,300 but the seller let it go for $950 which I thought was fantastic. Now my collection has a Finnish m39 as well as a 91/59.

I obtained a 1942 m38 last weekend and the more I learn about it the more I like it. Thanks for the video.

Bought one from the year both my parents were born 1942. It is pristine and has the Izhevsk stamp. Not sure how many made that year in that factory but I cherish it. Thanks for all the great videos. Now everyone go get your copy of enemy at the gates, popcorn and your favorite beverage. And a good friend

Looking down the muzzle when you have made dang sure the gun is clear is perfectly safe.

Thanks for the great info. After adding a couple of M44’s to my collection I desperately want a long one now but not easy to find in Australia.

Hey Sam, great collection of Mosin rifles! Thanks for sharing.

Wonderful video. My dad left me a Mosin that he bought at a pawn shop in the 1960s.

Nice collection of Mosins. I just did a quick comparison on a pre war and war time Mosins. These are fascinating rifles.

This channel is seriously underrated! I just bought my first real gun, an 1917 American made, Russian full sized M91, captured by the Finnish. (Totally not showing off) And you have helped l lot with learning more about my baby.

Also forgot to mention great video! It was very informative and I appreciate the very complicated history lesson on these cool guns. Thanks :)

I'm thinking on getting a Mosin for the first time and this has given me some good tips.

Thar 1891 Mosin, it is really interesting one. I have used just that one in my army year 1972-73. It was not as a service rifle for me but it was a gun I used in woods when we were not using hard ammo. In target shootings was done with M39. That 1891 was captured from reds in 1918 and it has been used in Russo-Japan war, WW1 and in Finland 1018, It has been in action in both Winter War and Continuation War and in training 1974. I had to check the sefial number in my notebook.

Im glad that I found this video when i was cleaning my mosin, turns out mine is an M91 with the Finnish SA marking and “Hex” receiver. I did pay more than what I would’ve liked ($420) but i really enjoy it

So I had been looking for a Mosin for years and after watching many videos wanted a M44. None of the gun shops around me carry any old riffles really except this one shop that has 8,000 guns for sale in it. They are wicked pricy there but will be the best chance to get what you are hunting for. They had like 15 mosins out on display but no M44’s. I asked the owner and he goes to one of his crates in the back room and pulls out the most best to hell gun ever. It was a 44 and was I horrible shape and he wanted $350 for it. He said the whole crate of them are unfinished in that shape. I decided to pass on it. Next I tried looking for a finish variant of the gun and again no luck. Then one day at my local gun shop (that I work gunshows for) I noticed a little piece of wood poking out from the corner of the shop. I asked what that was and the owner told me it was literally just traded into the shop. He told me it was a M44 Mosin and I was so excited. It was in great shape but when I looked at the year I saw it say 1942. I told the owner it’s not a 44 since it said 42. I told him it must be a M38 since it was a carbine before 43/44 and didn’t have the bayonet lug. He looked up m38’s online and agreed. He then priced the gun for $450 for me since I help work shows for him. It wasn’t until after I got home and had time to really look into the gun that I realized it wasn’t a m38. It was a 91/59 carbine. Neither of us had heard of it beforehand until after I bought it and learned of it. I scored a great deal on a pretty rare Mosin in great shape. Still had never seen a finish one anywhere and then the other day I posted something on FB about me cleaning my Mosin while watching some gun movies and a local FB friend living in the same town that I hadn’t met posted pics of his. He didn’t know anything about it except he thinks it was a Mosin and his grandfather brought it home as a war trophy. There it was a Finnish Mosin dated 1944. It was starting to rust and put a little bit from just being stored and never oiled or taken care of. I told him I would clean it and oil it for him if he ever wants to bring it by. That is such a cool piece of history to be handed down from your grandpa who served in ww2. Hoping he takes me up on my offer to clean it so I can finally see one in person.

Nice collection. FYI, as of Nov 1, 2021 Liberty Tree Collectors has 91/30 surplus upper hand guards at very reasonable prices.

Thank you for the knowledge

Just bought mine today, came home and this is on my recommended -_-

i got my 91/30 tula built in 1938 all matching numbers for $130 about 7 years ago haha thought it was such a steal and a no brainer to get it and ive always been very happy i did

I just bought my first Mosin it’s from 1928 and has the hex receiver I just happened to run across your vid after the fact

nice colletion....just started to get some nagants.

Great video thanks

Thx for this Video I'm rly looking for one

Try excellent and comprehensive video. Thanks for putting this out there 👍

I got lucky and got me my second mosin for very cheap. It was a flawless 91/59 that I dont be live had ever even been fired!!! I have used it myself sadly but dont ever plan to get rid of the beauty!!

I got a near mint condition 1942 M91/30 at Shots Fired in Covington Georgia for only $150 a few days ago. The bolt is smoother than any Mauser I've handled. I also got a 1944 M44 for Christmas that was Semi-Sporterized so I took the rail off it and now I need to buy an original bolt and see if a gunsmith can patch up the holes in the receiver and add wood back to the stock where bubba cut for his modified bolt handle.

Got to love guns!

I just accidentally scored a M27 mosin, 1930 Tikka barrel for 600$, didn't exspect to win the auction. My other first mosin was a sako 1942 m39 for 450$ off classic firearms in 2016. Also found rearsenaled 1944 VKT m39 for 500$ during the start of the pandemic. Hoping to find a remington or m28/30 next.

Nice arch angel stock….. I call mine 2.0. And yes it is a inglorious bastard. It out shoots the mark 4 303 open sight of coarse. Oh an ya new subscriber…. You earned it.

The M91's in my opinion are just as rare if rarer to find in the wild then an M39. I've yet to see one irl.

In 2013 you could get a refurb for $80. They were everywhere. You have to be careful with M-91's...A lot of them are junk. There used to be lots of non refurbished Mosins around and there still are. Many came out of Cugir, Romania and were imported by Century. Other's by the looks of the one you have were Spanish Civil War veterans. And, then every once in a while you will find an original, non refurbished Mosin 91/30 totally matching. These are pretty rare. America has always thought the Finn rifles were the best. M-91's, M91/30's, M-24's, M-27's, M-28's and M28-30's. The newer collectors have no idea the breath and quality of Finn Mosins that were are are still available. You've got a lot to learn about rarity. How rare are 91/59's with actions dating from 1920 through the 1930's? Pretty rare. You neglected the 91/38's as well. How rare is a 1941 Tula 91/30? There are a ton of things that talk to Mosin rarity and desirability. The one inch punch was made famous by Bruce Lee not Kill Bill. 😄 I just saw a Chat like your Finn M-91 that looked exactly like this one on GunBroker today. It even had the swivel on the magazine. Same rifle? BTW, this M-91 (the barrel and perhaps the receiver if it is matched) also was used by the Serbians - the "C" stamp which makes this gun more valuable. I noticed that this 91/59 is not in an original 91/59 stock. This one was put in an M-44 stock.

Loved the video very informative. Subscribed!!

Great video thanks, not a waste of time at all

I wanted an archangel stock back in high-school but couldn't afford it lol. I think they were over 300 just for the stock back then.

I got a 91/30 not to long ago as my first rifle thats not a muzzle loader. It was sporterized but not super intrusively, and I "desporterized" it. I'm thinking about sporterizing it again because all the mods aren't permanent and I can easily reverse the mods with no damage. I'm happy the previous owner didn't do anything crazy.

I bought a few back about 15 years ago. At the time, they were all cheep and at the shop I went to, they had stacks of boxes. So I did not open or want a open box. I wanted that thrill of the unknown. I do not regret it. I wanted fate to tell me a storie. Fate put the rifles in my hand. There were probably cleaner or nicer ones if I looked, but they all had issues and history, so nothing really lost. If you love history, then this is a fun way to do it.

My mom bought me an arsenal refinished M44 for my birthday - that was when Big5 was selling them for $59.00 ... I'll bet you they cost a whole hell of a lot more now!

Picked up a 91/59 on GB like 5 years ago. Paid a bit too much then but really wanted it. I assume it's worth more now than the $600 i paid.

I have a Mosin here in New Zealand. That is retro fitted to become a carbine. So it’s I think a standard that is cut down to resemble a carbine then be more desirable. Think it’s retrofitted in the Ukraine from what paperwork come with the rifle

at 48:43 I own a Vetterli-Carcano. They are able to be shot if you reload the ammo. In order to shoot them safely it takes a long bit. Basically you get PPU brass, then you get the primers and all that standard stuff. Buy cast bullets, they will be better for the gun. Make sure the bullet is .264 diameter, if it is the .268 Diameter bullets it will destroy your Vetterli-Carcano as the actual rifling is soldered in using a method called the Solerno Method. Next make sure you only have 18-20 grains of powder, basically half loading it. The Vetterli Action is meant for black powder. Some people replace the Smokeless with black powder. Expecting accuracy? No, you won't have it. Fun to shoot? Yes. I don't really take it shooting much, like maybe 15-20 rounds a year because these steps are kind of a pain and I have other rifles that are more capable, however it is a fun gun IF YOU DO THESE STEPS. IF YOU SHOOT FACTORY AMMO YOU WILL DESTROY IT. Not really for beginners. I would argue it is a great piece of World War 1 history as it shows the desperation of the Italians.

URSS was primarily used by the soviets themselves. It was a french abbreviation of the USSR acronym… which to their logic was the ‘international standard language’, in lieu of using English of course. French even was the language used in soviet passport as the international one, russian being the primary one

Very informative video. Lots of good stuff. One note though, the One Inch Punch came from Bruce Lee, not Kill Bill. Bruce Lee demonstrated at events that he could knock someone on their butt without swinging at them with the One Inch Punch.

I just bought one with a cracked stock for 325 is that a good price. The stock was a very easy fix with some glue.

I just added a 44 to my "carbine" bolt rifles, joining a Spanish FR8 and a #5 Enfield Jungle Carbine. I have another 44 looking rifle but I can't remember what it really is so I'll have to go dig it out to know. I just like the military type Carbine size bolt guns vs the long ones.

I'm still glad that I picked up 2 very nice 1940 ,and 1943 91-30's for 129$ each and also picked up 2 880 round crates of milsurp corrosive ammo thinking that will feed my rifles for life. At the time 440 rounds was 90$. All the soft point ppu ammo for hunting legally at a similar weight bullet isn't nearly as accurate as the milsurp stuff though. I get exceptional accuracy with both rifles, but the 1940 is definitely better made, and is my full time hunting rifle. With iron sights at 125 yards I can set up 20, 4 inch orange clay pigions at my range, and not miss one with 20 shots, so both rifles are definitely well under 4moa with milsurp canned ammo. I just kick myself for selling my Russian Ak47 a ton of magazines, my norinco Chinese sks, and a ruger 10 22 with 10 mags, and 1400 rounds of 7.62x39 ammo. I sold it all for 1,000$ all for iminant legal fees. Now worth nearbor over 5,000$. My Work friend I sold it all too said I could always buy them back anytime, so it made selling them easier for me ,but when I tried to buy one back, he wouldn't even answer my calls anymore. I sold them the month after Obamas Russian ,and Chinese embargo that made all these rifles 5x in value by now ,so I knew I was selling way way under value even then the AK alone was 1300$ , but thought he was serious about me buying them back. Now i just wish I had bought 20+ mosins when I had bought the 2. I like them alot ,and they are 5x in value now. I Like them even more though now because I hunt with mine and it's legal here. No semi autos. I have got 4 very big buck with that 1940 rifle so far. So I will forever keep it. I had a Winchester 30 30 that I started hunting with, and my 300 win mag that likes to scope bite , and nothing in between. I thought ok I will buy a .308 or 30.06 ,but when I realized I could buy 2 mosin rifles with enough ammo for life for less than just a single .308 rifle. Not to mention the 20 times more expensive ammo with near identical performance. I was sold, I got into mosins ,and now only wish I had a m44 ,or some type of carbine to also hunt with. Maybe one day.

Sam, enjoy your reviews immensely! Can you, are you equipped to, evaluate a Mosin collection I have acquired? How best to do so? Thanks, rich

Quick question, i have m91/30 with a 1943 production date, the only thing strange about it is that it doesn't have a hooded sight its a blade sight.

Great video! Thank you! I'm new to military surplus and this video really helped. I've been wanting a mosin ever since I saw the fireball come out of one. Also want to shoot a pig in South Texas so I guess I can have my cake and eat it too with either the carbine or the m39

Right now there is one I'm looking at. It's a Finnish varient in decent shape and they are asking $400. Idk if that's a good price.

In my opinion I kinda like the m44 because you can just put the bayonet on whenever you want and also I’m not looking forward to carrying a rifle that’s 48.5 in

Hello ... I am repairing a 91/30, that I was told was brought from Estonia. It is a 100% Tula rifle, that didn't go through the arsenal refurb in the 50's. I have purchased another mosing stock to seam in the repair, carfully matching grains. Would you happen to know the original Liseed oil mix Russia used, so I can return this to the original color and tone ... thanks

I have 91/59 that has a 2 piece buttstock like that. I thought it was a repair that was done when it was refurbished in 1959

Sks and missing are the best .

Thanks

The M91-30 was made in 1930! Which was well before WWII. The original Mosin was made in 1891, and they improved it in 1930, hence its name🫡

I think I can across the non refurbished one because it doesn’t have a bayonet attachment like all the other ones

@Big Sam I have an unconverted dragoon with a matching buttplate and correct 1914 dated stock. Also has the correct too handguard that raps around the sight base. How much would something like this be worth?

the 38 is typically not a 44 right?? the 38 is an cut down 91/30 that had been damaged and refurb cut it down to a 38. I think I read that awhile back.

#1 rule IMO, get a hex receiver whenever possible. - You don't have to buy a 'war time' made rifle to get history and a story... I have a 1902 Tula M91 that has an AZF & SA stamp.

Havent you guys seen the FRF2s? Gewehr 30s-40s?

@47:14 because URSS is spanish for Unión de Repúblicas Socialistas Soviéticas in english it would be like Union of Republic Socialist Soviet so you see why it doesnt make sense and because of the language in english its different and it would be rearanged to USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics)its the same thing but one its in spanish and the other in english,. So this leaves us with a couple of options. 1)Maybe the importer in certain cases probably being spanish or hispanic themselves, thats how they were used to spelling USSR so thats how they stamped it, meanwhile other importers being english speaking or knowing better went with the USSR version. 2) I dont know where they were supposed to stamp the rifles in accordance with the law but it could be the ones stamped URSS were probably stamped in spain and the ones stamped USSR were done upon arrival to US maybe? 3) If they were allowed to be stamped in Spain and not upon entry to US maybe some were stamped as URSS before realizing thats not how its written in US so they then changed it to USSR. 4) If they were allowed to be stamped in Spain and not upon entry to US maybe some importers knew better and some didn't so some stamped the right way and others the wrong way. 5) a combination of 3 and 4 6)If they were supposed to be stamped in US maybe someone didnt get the memo and stamped theirs URSS in spain to save $ and rather than making it hard on the importer it was allowed to come into the country. 5)If they were supposed to be stamped in US and due to some loophole in the rules where it didnt say the stamp had to be in accordance to the english language and any combination of 2,3,4 some importers might have again saved some $ and get it stamped in Spain and were allowed to pass. If u ask me I think the ones marked URSS were marked in Spain or at least by spanish speaking people somewhere.

great stuff! I sent you an email about an M44 thank you

I don't know if you meant that, but in French USSR is spelled URSS, might be what you were referring to (around 47:00)

I appreciate the video. Embarrassed to admit it but I honestly don’t know much about the Mosin Nagant. I saw one at the pawn shop for $500 and I refuse to pass it up but I still want to do research to see why it’s only $500.

bro you gotta watch kill bill, also thank you for all your content. i bought a mosin off a police officer- stock was refurbished and there was a tally on the stock.... i'm not sure i believe it but it is cool to have.... the phrase Донна is scratched onto the stock. maybe it was a russian guy trolling, or maybe it saw some shit. either way, it shoots great for a rifle made in 1942. i'll keep an eye out for mosins at local gun shows when they come around.

I have a 91/30 x sniper that was never engraved by customs and has brass bands not the black bands. What do you think the value is and would it up the value if I put an original pu scope and mount on it?I paid 175 for it about 12 years ago.

You need to write and publish a book. The ones available or either overpriced or dubious in the completeness of information.

وای دیونه شدم برایذاون مشکی که خشاب خوره شده❤❤❤

the U.R.S.S. marking is just spanish equivalent of USSR, romance language grammar changes the word order so it becomes union republics soviet socialist

Excellent information, I just bought a 1943 Izhevsk Mosin with the bolt , Butt plate and magazine box electro- pensiled to match the roughly/crudely rounded receiver. Price tag $550. From what I read, this is a very undesirable characteristic for a collectable Mosin. Is this true? The rifle is very tight and looks perfectly aligned and from my observation seems very well put together. Thanks!

I've acquired a mosin that has my go to shop stumped as well as myself been trying to find information myself I can't locate anything. Do you know anything about one dated 1894R any info would be greatly appreciated I'm not sure how to message or send pictures on KZfaq I appreciate your feedback thank you

Did all Mosins come with bayonets?

M38?

Is the one in the center an SBR?

I sure wish I knew what "a good price" is ...

I'm looking at a 91/30 with a orginal pu scope (not a real sniper) also has a timney trigger. Should I get it for 550 dollars?

Funny enough my first mosim was an M39. Bought it for $800 and I don't regret it one bit.

I have 4, 91/30s. All have been zeroed at 100 yards after intense cleaning. With 64 year old eyes and iron sights, each Mosin will hit a clay pigeon stuck about 1/4 of the way down in the sand so it will stand up 7 out of 10 times with "Silver Bear" Russian ammo (it is really great ammo). However, no matter what I have tried so far, I can not get the bore on any of them to shine. I feel they are clean and I can see the good riffling, but they still stay blackish. How do I get that bright shining bore out of my Mosins??

Kinda weird i had the choice bewteen a m91 30 and a m91 for the same price. I picked the m91 30 unfortunately

Very few people know the mosin has a safety.

10s of thousands of Mosins were made in the US for Russia, also

I just bought my first mosin it's a 1942 izhevsk mosin nagant 91/30 it was imported and the importer stamped on the receiver how do you feel about that..? You talk about holes being drilled and other things to stay away but I feel that since my gun has a importer stamped on it it's ruined period so anything done to it shouldn't really matter right?

Can your m91 be fired?

One thing that is rare is the M39 bayonet

I got a carbine 15 years back $70 out the door

Tue only reason why i would get the bubba gun is because of a broken stock or its been sporterized before.

Which one is best for hunting?

Что в этой винтовке от нагана? А в Спрингфилде 90%от маузера.почему сприн- маузер не называет?

Big Sam, $150, for a Mosin M44. Is it a deal? From Texas. Russian

The one inch punch was Bruce Lee

Big Sandy I have a mosin migrant if I send you some pictures could you tell me more about it and what it's worth

Que tal amigo yo tengo un mossin

as an officer of Imperial Russian Army, I confirm there is a choice

What to look for when buying a mosin? A Lee Enfield would be my choice ;)

Sorry I meant big Sam

Own a 1948 with bayont

Skip the 91/30 rifles. Too big, ungainly, reminds me of civil war photos where the gun was almost as tall as the soldiers. They are good guns, robust, reliable, built like tanks. Stick with the carbine models( m38/m44/m91/59..all are carbines, I have 2. Compact, tough, handy and make a practical truck or camping rifle.

I bought a remington 1917 2yrs ago 250dollars and I almost pawned it for 200 ...thank God I didn't