It was marketed as the mcu from the civilian’s perspective It’s not about the heroes and villains it’s about the world they live in

I loved it, started a little slow, but the moment the whole Hydra reveal came after Winter Soldier the show just took off. It's brilliant.

It was. I'm really hoping they bring some of the characters into the current or next phase even if they say "that was another universe and these are just variants".

Yeah I absolutely loved this show

This show deserves to be canon no matter what everyone says it is the best tv show i have ever watched

He is great, i mean gets realky hatanle, but at the same time so entertaining.

SO that smile at the wall of the Fallen.... Brett, you delightfully acting Psychopath!

I'm glad they didn't. If they had said so, I feel like they might've added in some stuff like odd looks or the way they spoke to each other to hint at it and people might've guessed it. This way, there was no way to know outside of stuff in the script

It did stuff way better than the current phase of the MCU. But so many people will ignore it because it doesn't say Marvel Studios or have Feige's name slapped on it

I like to add - in my opinion - the scene when Fitz and Simmons tryimg to figur out who is the lmd is one of the best scene is television. it was amazing.

4722 hours is such a great memory in my growing up seeing it for the first time. Absolutely incredible

@Noam Ben Moshe Especially LMD May talking to LMD Coulson. She was created before Radcliffe had perfected the process, so when she stood her ground against Coulson, she admitted that she was afraid of dying, that they had never done any of the things that their real counterparts had done. She put everything on the line so the others could escape.

Season 4 is top tier

Season 4 was very much some of the best TV I have ever seen. It took the very idea of a sense of self and flipped it on its head for basically everyone.

Season 4 was the crème de la crème.

Which one was season 4 again?

@@daniellins4114 the one with three phase, Ghost Rider, Life Model Decoy, and Framework

Where you watching daredevil?

You’re late, so life is making more noise….

@@johnwerner69 Netflix

@@aaron-fauth Netflix removed it in February?

@@johnwerner69 it’s on Disney plus now

Not that the storylines usually were cliche or predictable...I always said that AoS is the show where tropes go to die. Having unnecessary drama simply because two characters refuse to talk to each other? Yeah, not in AoS, you can bet that the talk will happen within an episode, two at most. Doing a redeeming arc for the villain? Nope, just hate on the betraying a-hole. Most of the time the show went zig where most shows would have gone for a straight line.

@@swanpride I feel like S5 was kind of guilty of the "no-talking" thing. Was reminded of this recently but like characters were holding on to information that would have significantly changed the outcome of events and certain things were not given the resolution they really should have.

At least daisy should have been in thst endfight in endgame as cameo .

@@marocat4749 nah

IMO, the show wasn't really predictable or cliché. That's just me tho. I also loved it. It was amazing! 98% of the time. The villain of season 6 was so boring tho! My only real complaint

Even though having like no budget season 7 still has some awesome effects

This show basically coined the phrase "the show gets better and better"

Fitz-Simmons throughout the entire show are literally torture porn

Really wasn't a big fan of S5-7 cause a lot of the decisions were pretty whack unfortunately

@@defrostedrobot77 I think it's the difference between intent for weekly broadcast vs intent for binge a full season in one day. I also had the additional difficulty from being in the UK where Channel four decided not to air it consistently, (acting like BBC Two back during TNG's broadcast run, just not because of constant interruptions to show Snooker!), which is why binging was my only option (and I couldnt get access to torre-coughcoughcough) @Ninja Nibba Hands down Skye/Daisy is my favourite Marvel live-action character. and only a kind of small part of that is that we actually get to see a journey of being a seeming nobody, to gaining skills, gaining experience, stumbling, loosing, and then ... Skye over Wanda. Skye found out her mom was a pseudo-immortal who came back from death wrong and tried to kill her. her dad was a doctor, as in, hospital kind of doctor(?) who used that knowledge for basically evil when he lost his wife and daughter, and only turned good again because of said wife trying to kill his daughter,(not just, but it was in there), and she had to watch her dad kill her mom whilst her mom was still trying to drain her life.. and she was also trying to kill her mom in self-defence. All whilst dealing with powers that made an Asgardian FEAR HER, a representative of the alien race who meddled in her ancestors genetics saw her as an abomination to be terminated, and all her hopes and dreams about her birth parents were seemingly coming true to only then be turned to ash in front of her and... she pulled through. She lost her dad basically due to him being given forced amnesia and a new identity, and she had to walk away, go back to being a hero, because she can't do any less. Then has to deal with one of her two best friends disappearing to who-knows-where because of a rock, and the other, coming back from BRAIN DAMAGE destroying himself trying to figure shit out, the guy she kinda liked had noped the offer to join shield but then turned around because he kind of had to so was even less willing to be an agent than she had at the start (because that was initially a 'get on the inside' and later realised she wanted to do good', but he just wanted to be a DOCTOR and couldn't,... and then she got mind controlled by an ancient guy who was basically wearing the face of her ex-crush who turned out to have been a nazi, and then damn-near killed her people of choice and then when her boyfriend died, sacrificing his life to destroy said highly-dangerous ancient guy wearing ward's face, she ran. she gave in to her grief (and not just the grief of losing Lincoln, but my Headcanon is it was the weight of every bad thing in her life)... And whilst running, she was still doing the HERO thing, protecting people and tracking down bad guys... in a half-she's just a good person and half-she's suicidal (ghost rider fight anyone? 'just do it' 'its not me that decides') Wanda... lost vision. a robot, and her two made-up kids. And. well, white-vision is out there, but apparantly she's just like 'nope mah made-up kids'. Wanda, in her grief for losing vision, MIND CONTROLLED AN ENTIRE TOWN... yet, supposedly, 'they'll never know what you sacrificed for them'. Bitch please she's been doing the mind mojo since before she was an avenger, and only switched sides because ultron was going to destroy everything. hell she VOLUNTEERED for the experiments that hydra were doing!

trash show

@@AlMcpherson79 i second Daisy being my favorite still hasnt waivered, and i fucking love Chloe Bennet on top of that making it better

Oh my gosh THAT one. No plot twist I will ever see will top it and I know it!

Please gimme a hint. I don't remember any major twist in season 5.

@@henryampey2460 spoilers for season 5 episode 14 (and for a lot of the show tbh): It’s established Fitz’ Brian injury from season 2 was reflaring up in season 5 and the gang thinks the anomaly has brought in Fitz’ greatest fear, The Doctor/Evil Fitz from the Framework, but it turns out it was Fitz all along with a split personality that had formed as result of his brain injury

@@ColdBloodedProd Thanks. I knew it probably had something to do with the doctor (GOAT villian). The last third of season 5 beyond the anniversary episode and the finale have always been blurry for me.. probably time for a rewatch.

@@ColdBloodedProd oh yea this wass a really good part of s5. i didnt really enjoy the first half and it's cassiaus story (they also were annoying to look at lol) but every thing they came back was pretty good

Agents of shield was so good at synergy. Im glad we had a moment like that for daredevil universe between hawkeye and spiderman. That was the same week reminded me of golden age agents of shield.

Yeah we need more of Daisy Johnson

When Disney plus did its first test runs in Europe, AoS was the most watched TV show on it, and the second most watched property overall (the top one was naturally Infinity War)

Agents of shield has always done better than the netflix shows for one reason. Netflix shows drop entire seasons. We talk about it for a month and move on. Agents of shield is talked about all year along because it usually runs from September to June if it wasn't one of the later seasons. I think people have just seen daredevil. But people around the world are still watching agents of shield.

@@TheTurbanator123 Certainly not true,AOS hasn’t even get that much exposure and the amount of exposure they’ve given wasn’t that much whereas Daredevil and the other shows have been talked about even before they were moved to Disney plus and DD/Kingpin made their appearances on Hawkeye and Spider-Man’s projects

@@UNKNOWN-qr7uo this isn't my assessment this is just numbers. Im positive majority of people would say daredevil is the better show. But agents of shield was proven to be a more talked about show online.

@@UNKNOWN-qr7uo aos was the longest one and the only one to get a proper ending that means something

The Ward twist was amazing and I've only ever seen that kind of thing done once to a main character before. 24 season 1, not gonna say who in case someone gets angry.

It absolutely was but like you said, in hindsight it was kinda expected. Ward was VERY bland before the reveal. A good guy and by the book but other then his budding romance with Sky/Daisy, there was nothing to him. When his true alligence is revealed and he shows just HOW MUCH he was playing a role, it’s shocking and even heartbreaking in a way. Ward is imo one of the best villains in the MCU and is on my Mount Rushmore of top bad guys for the entire universe

@@jessedellross3245 Who's on your Mount Rushmore?

@@yennox5338 ward, Loki, killmonger, and Obadiah stane from iron man 1.

@@jessedellross3245 “Obadiah stane” no way you just said that 💀. Literally has nothing interesting about him.

What I like the most about it is how much the characters change over time. Especially Fitzsimmons and May. There is something incredible satsifying when May claims the cavalry name for herself eventually, or when Fitzsimmons just science the sh... out of every problem and finally get the happiness they deserve...it is the one "will they/won't they" arc which actually works, because all the hurdles their relationship has to overcome are outside problems and not the usual toxic bs.

THIS!

my favorite show of all time and it's definitely rewatchable af; i've watched this whole show 4 times, and am on my fifth rewatch

@@Jo-fk1be watching it again all the way through my 3rd time again this is my soul (w/ the defender’s verse) of the mcu everything else is the heart This show has so much

The fundamental difference is the number of hours. According to some random website, Iron Man spent 350 minutes on screen in the movies - which is the most of any character in the movies/Disney + shows. In comparison, Ward spent 336 minutes on screen in Agents of Shield even though he is only in 3 and a bit seasons. Mac, Fitz, May, Simmons, Daisy and Coulson all have more screen time with Coulson and Daisy over 1000 hours You can’t do the same with a character if you give them 6 episodes.

@@jspettifer this is a good reminder to keep expectations low with the new daredevil series If the fundamental difference is number of hours why are supergirl and flash so bad. Legends is pretty decent because like shield it reinvents itself. It's a disservice to the writers to say the amount of time is the reason. So many shows fail under the 22 episode format. Shows like agents of shield and castle do it spectacularly. Flash and arrow seasons are too long. Netflix shows also feel too long around episode 11 or 12. I think every bad episode of shield each season is also around the middle of the season. But its top tier network TV. Them realizing it's better to do multiple arcs within seasons was the defining key factor. Ideally you just write a story and give how ever many episodes it takes. But ABC netflix CW and Disney plus give their shows arbitrary episode counts.

Daredevil is overrated. It steadily went downhill from s1-s3

They aren’t true fans then All or nothing baby

I always see Agent of Shield as an alternate universe where they bring Coulson back.

@@muhammadtarunaaldiramadan248 it’s not It’s called context clues rewatch the show

I would also take "Agents of Sword" as long as we get the cast back.

People are ungrateful to television. Think about how many things smallville got wrong. Or tha hand story line in daredevil. No superhero show is perfect. But each one has the potential to tell a really kick ass story.

Why did he do that?

Who? And who cares? We are a small but dedicated crowd. And it is fun to be part of it.

What video and what timestamp

@@swanpride so true it's like we are agents and only we know how much better shield is than most shows

I think Feige wound up confusing a lot of people where they now think these shows aren’t canon. They are, they’re just not “important” to the overall Infinity Saga. They still exist in the MCU, they’re just in the background.

@@WyattoonsComics I think or to me at least they are not canon anymore(but is only my opinion, I am pretty sure that the series its not gonna be important to the MCU) the inhumans part that is a big deal and it dosen't really is in the mcu world , the darkhold was in agents of shield but we saw Agatha has the book in Wandavision, we saw ghost rider and I am pretty sure that if we see a ghost rider in the future its not gonna be the same, Mockingbir is not anymore bobbi morse. I can't say that it was always like this, even when I saw it I thought that Coulson could return to the big screen, but in the end it did not happend and the series lose a lot of quality too but still has things that we can consider canon.

@@WyattoonsComics I think every show so far is canon to the main timeline of the MCU. There really is no reason that they shouldn't be. A lot of the "canonicity" arguments seem to be based around people's subjective perspective on the qualities of the shows discussed about, rather than the actual facts themselves. Best shown with @Richard Castillos's comment above.

@@WyattoonsComics He never claimes that, though. There have always people who for some reason hated on AoS, and shot against it at every moment. But it will always be canon in the eyes of its fans, and Feige would be crazy to change that.

@@swanpride To specify, I think the confusion comes from when he said this and the Netflix shows wouldn’t connect directly to Infinity War. What he meant was just the plot, it was everyone else who took that to mean they weren’t canon and were somehow in their own little pocket universes or whatever. You’re right, he never claimed that. It was just everyone else taking what he said and twisting his words around.

same I’m so glad people talk about it

Which is, honestly selling it as mcus buffy would have been more honest, or its a good whedon show.

@@marocat4749 ????

Not that crazy at all...AoS has always been underrated, because it's numbers were always compared to a Broadcasted show, and it was always close to cancellation - but once you looked at the streaming numbers, you could see that those numbers were double sometimes triple the live viewers. Since Netflix doesn't publish numbers, it is hard to tell how it compared to Daredevil, but considering that AoS was accessible to a way larger audience, it is pretty likely that it is Marvel's most watched show. I know that there are even people who got hooked on the MCU because of AoS instead of the other way around.

I think they are comic buffs really good at adapting and just figured out earlier how. Ok the inhibitor and others might be "inspired". And aostime travel is so far better and thought out, and characters, everything. Why wasnt the show not promoted for if its probably the most watched marvel show, for good reasons.

Exactly it’s the mcu from the civilian’s perspective

Exactly

Same here. In fact, I might not even have stuck with Marvels for so long without it. In fact, since the show is gone, I feel more and more detached from the MCU.

True,for the villain letdown, the not-mutants were pretty cool and fun. That gambit guy too.

The way I see it, and I agree... If it's the best marvel tv series, then it is the best marvel tv series, whether some suit guy says it is canon(are we talking about MCU?) or not. PS: I was told to watch The Expanse but completely forgot about it's existence, so thank you for reminding me about it lol I heard it's great

@@tarnishedpose Your welcome. Sadly now that the expanse is over go binge the whole thing lol. The Foundation apple tv is also good but not expanse level, they really messed up the pacing but it needs many seasons to feel & become a great show. has tons of potential especially considering the books.

Since you brought up CGI, they pulled off a pretty good Ghost Rider.

A lot of people do ur just not looking in the right places

And he's technically an Avenger. Fury said so himself and I love that they didn't shove that in our face all the time but man, was I glad when Hale referred to him as one of Earth's Mightiest Heroes. People were pining for an Avenger during the early days of the show, we had one for over 100 episodes. One of my favorite characters ever!

Same here

Yep. Its a whedon show, jed but still, yep trauma. And really fun at the same time. And good, and gets better building well on prior seasons.

Go back to season 2 and 3 they tease a lot of her sadistic qualities Imagine if fitz simmons were evil

@@TheTurbanator123 fair enough lol I do remember the evil fitz I don’t remember the early hints for jemma

@@madnessarcade7447 Simmons wanted to kill Ward in season 2 and even tried to shoot him when Coulson brought him back until the team for a brief time. Also she despised Inhumans which was why Fitz and Daisy kept the secret from her but when she found out she kept trying to cure Daisy.

@@madnessarcade7447 She killed Bakshi. Granted, he wasn't her target, but the result is the same, she murdered someone.

I think the show kind of dropped the ball with her character later on with said darkness and her obsession with Fitz. I think it could have worked better if there was more of an arc with how these things played off each other but there wasn't really.

can we stop comparing stuff please all those shows have their own unique charm

Hey!! If you're ever interested, my brother and I have worked of Agents of Shield content that are mini stories which are "Out of Context". We LOVE the show and wanted to do something fun with it!! 😁