The Heart of Agents of SHIELD: Why Fitz-Simmons Steals the Show
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0:00 Introduction
0:43 Who are they, and what's a heart, anyway?
4:45 Heart as plot-movers
5:59 Heart as quality-guarantors
7:55 Heart as embodiments of concept
10:04 End
#marvel #agentsofshield #shield
Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is an American television series created by Joss Whedon, Jed Whedon, and Maurissa Tancharoen for ABC based on the Marvel Comics organization S.H.I.E.L.D. (Strategic Homeland Intervention, Enforcement, and Logistics Division), a peacekeeping and spy agency in a world of superheroes. The series was the first to be set in the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU), and it acknowledges the continuity of the franchise's films and other television series. It was produced by ABC Studios, Marvel Television, and Mutant Enemy Productions, with Jed Whedon, Maurissa Tancharoen, and Jeffrey Bell serving as showrunners. The series stars Clark Gregg as Phil Coulson, reprising his role from the film series, alongside Ming-Na Wen, Brett Dalton, Chloe Bennet, Iain De Caestecker, and Elizabeth Henstridge. Nick Blood, Adrianne Palicki, Henry Simmons, Luke Mitchell, John Hannah, Natalia Cordova-Buckley, and Jeff Ward joined in later seasons. The S.H.I.E.L.D. agents deal with various unusual cases and enemies, including Hydra, Inhumans, Life Model Decoys, alien species such as the Kree and Chronicoms, and time travel. (from Wikipedia, for SEO)
@PillarofGarbage 3 ай бұрын
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@StellarAvenger 3 ай бұрын
Marvel seriously needs to bring them back. They're making the Netflix shows canon, but these characters are just as important. AOS ushered in this era of Marvel television
@mariannedarrow7227 3 ай бұрын
It would be amazing to bring them back.
@Icybubba 3 ай бұрын
Well Daredevil had direct tie-ins and references to AoS so
@Craigy2818 3 ай бұрын
Ian said he wouldn't return, if asked. He prefers to do smaller things.
@Swenglish 3 ай бұрын
They could bring back Simmons, but they'd have a hard time bringing back Fitz. Iain said he's happy with how Fitz's story ended and doesn't want to mess with it (which could be taken literally or as a nice way of saying he's spent enough years playing the same character and just wants to move on), and I don't get the vibe that he's in it for the fame/money.
@thevikingbear2343 2 ай бұрын
@@Craigy2818 So did Hugh Jackman and look who is co-leading Deadpool 3...
@dionysisnance4204 3 ай бұрын
Fitz Literally traveled through space and time for his woman.
@lukeyznaga7627 3 ай бұрын
yes, isn't that cool. I wonder if coupled so that now or would, in this day and age?
@jackmakila3776 3 ай бұрын
My boy became became a superspy for like a whole season for her
@Retro_Red 3 ай бұрын
Thrice, actually.
@cornonjacobdotcom Ай бұрын
And she did the exact same for him
@mimmikyute Ай бұрын
Not to mention he had to confront a very real alt version of himself; then literally fuckin died
@MTV2O2O 3 ай бұрын
I love how Fitz kept insisting that they were “cursed” in the show--despite the fact that being Agents of SHIELD always kinda came with the risk of supernatural dangers in the first place 😂….except for when they all got sent to the future in Season 5, at that point all of them were cursed.
@jackmakila3776 3 ай бұрын
They definitely were cursed after season one
@ashgushu6903 3 ай бұрын
You just summoned the AOS fandom in 10 words or less
@PillarofGarbage 3 ай бұрын
spread the word 🗣️
@suezcontours6653 3 ай бұрын
@@PillarofGarbage It's funny you're doing this video now when Brett Dalton (Grant Ward) is acting on a show where he's a cop I absolutely don't trust because he betrayed the team on Agents of Shield.
@sm42941 3 ай бұрын
the episode where they were in the mind prison together was amazing
@defrostedrobot77 3 ай бұрын
Honestly, thought that one was disappointing. They pretty much completely ignored this Fitz finding out what happened to Daisy and even putting that aside they rushed through the issues FitzSimmons needed to sort out in one episode when it should have taken more time.
@lukeford9803 3 ай бұрын
@@defrostedrobot77tbf there budget was slimmmmm for what they needed to do
@sm42941 3 ай бұрын
@@defrostedrobot77 what happened to daisy? i watched it years ago i dont remember what exactly youre talking about haha
@defrostedrobot77 3 ай бұрын
@@lukeford9803 I wouldn't really say the budget is where my issues with the episode lie tho.
@defrostedrobot77 3 ай бұрын
@@sm42941 Daisy got the inhibitor ripped out by Fitz and he justified it and then Simmons committed mutiny to release Fitz from confinement.
@benwasserman8223 3 ай бұрын
For all the love people give the Marvel Netflix shows, Agents of SHIELD actually MAINTAINED its quality over seven seasons (or at least post-Winter Soldier twist). Daredevil and Jessica Jones had stellar first seasons but none of the other shows ever matched up to that quality afterward. Maybe Daredevil season 3, but that's it.
@Jane-oz7pp 3 ай бұрын
I have to say I personally didn't care for seasons 3 and 4 all that much, they felt a little lost to me, but that's all I can really say negatively about them. But also my favourite of the Defenders shows was Iron Fist and apparently that makes me stupid and bad so 🤷🏼♀️
@sacrificiallamb4568 3 ай бұрын
I utterly love Iron Fist. Thank you.@@Jane-oz7pp
@defrostedrobot77 3 ай бұрын
I'd say S1 was alright and S2-4 were good stuff but S5-7 were kinda bad.
@iraford5788 Ай бұрын
@@Jane-oz7ppseason 4 of AOS is some of the best comic book television from the last decade and even to this day imo.
@TheAzul_Indigo 3 ай бұрын
Agents of shield shares something in common with all my favorite series, the overarching plot is less important than the characters and their development. I love to see how far they come and how deep their cuts go.
@Icybubba 3 ай бұрын
I think the best way to describe the writing is, the characters drive the plot, the plot doesn't drive the characters.....most of the time anyhow. Everything especially season 3 and beyond is a direct consequence of the decisions the characters made. Ward decided to kill Price which leads to Coulson killing Ward, which leads to Hive being able to escape in Ward's body, which leads to Radcliffe being picked up by SHIELD and Lincoln's death, which leads to Radcliffe and Fitz creating LMDs to prevent another Lincoln from happening, which leads to the framework, and leads to an LMD shooting Talbot, which leads to Talbot almost destroying the Earth in order to protect it etc etc etc
@princessjello 3 ай бұрын
YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SANDWICH YESSSSS
@samrameker2753 3 ай бұрын
They are my favorite fictional couple of all time and it’s not remotely close
@rhylin26 3 ай бұрын
Can we eventually get a video about Enoch. I loved his addition to the show. His ending was perfect.
@krisztianunpronounceable 3 ай бұрын
I second that!
@defrostedrobot77 3 ай бұрын
Enoch got majorly screwed by the narrative I think. poor guy.
@HotDogTimeMachine385 3 ай бұрын
His ending was truly... heartwarming and heart wrenching. He would protect his friends without a second of hesitation. It was also one of the best time loop episodes I've seen
@defrostedrobot77 3 ай бұрын
@@HotDogTimeMachine385 It was a decent enough episode but the whole thing where they couldn't stop Enoch over so many loops was pretty ridiculous. Like Daisy should have been able to stop him with her powers (killing him would have been harsh but he would have come back in the next loop).
@RainbowMan9407 3 ай бұрын
This show might genuinely be my favorite of all time. It really makes me wish that the current MCU was more like this, focusing more on the emotion rather than the powers. The powers are cool, but the reason they meant something was because of the characters they were attached to.
@Lunictd 3 ай бұрын
A great reminder of why Agents of SHIELD was the hidden gem of Marvel's MCU series. The whole relationship was great with both of them being amazing and while all AoS characters are lovely FitzSimmons are the highlight. Thank you for your great video!
@lacrartezorok4975 3 ай бұрын
The Agents of Hydra arc could have been called "Everybody loves Fitz." They not only had two women fighting for him, also two father figures.
@yellowjoe_ 3 ай бұрын
YOU'RE KIDDING, the level of excitement I got from seeing the title alone!! Two of my most treasured and loved characters I cannot wait to watch this video! + Bonus points because it was uploaded on my birthday
@PillarofGarbage 3 ай бұрын
Happy birthday!
@yellowjoe_ 3 ай бұрын
@@PillarofGarbage Thank you so much! 😁🥳
@Deltabolster 3 ай бұрын
i know they said this show isnt canon to the current MCU timelien and to that i gotta say, GOOD. the timeline agents of shield is on is the only sacred timelinei care about. and if this show isnt cannon then NOTHING is
@Craigy2818 3 ай бұрын
The Netflix shows are, now, officially canon. There were leakers who said they would begin to implement Agents of SHIELD references into the MCU but this was before they reshuffled things. Quake is still expected to appear in Armor Wars and Shang-Chi 2, though - hence, why Chloe met with Simu Liu. This isn't the first time discussions occurred years before a project. Ryan had been wanting Taylor Swift in a new Deadpool movie, since he was in her music video for 'You Need to Calm Down'.
@SonnyBear5 3 ай бұрын
I used to watch Agents of Shield all the time. Imagine if Marvel actually incorporated the story into the main movies
@PillarofGarbage 3 ай бұрын
we can dream 😔
@suezcontours6653 3 ай бұрын
@@PillarofGarbageI feel like they initially wanted THIS kind of relationship between Barry Allen and Iris West in The Flash. Before the debuted the pilot episode they had interviews where Candice Patton claimed Iris West was in a forensics part of a Fringe division that processes Metahuman irregularities with Barry. I guess they thought she was too cool to pass for a scientist.
@k1988smith 3 ай бұрын
The setup AOS did for the Inhumans was so perfect and could have been an amazing addition to the franchise!
@TheGoldenAlchemist86 3 ай бұрын
Fine I’ll rewatch agents of shield 😌
@troymilanharrison2023 3 ай бұрын
YES! Iain De Caestecker and Elizabeth Henstridge are two of my favourite actors. Also, Fitz couldn’t be canon to the MCU because he’d make Tony Stark and Reed Richards look brainless
@sacrificiallamb4568 3 ай бұрын
Also, AI was banned after Ultron and it wasn't in the Marvel Studios stuff.
@randomeditor247 3 ай бұрын
@@sacrificiallamb4568 Actually, the AI ban is mentioned in season four when Fitz is talking to Radcliffe about Aida. Radcliffe went on to explain that Aida wasn't AI but a robot that only mimicked human behavior. I think she only became more like AI after Radcliffe was corrupted by the Darkhold.
@sacrificiallamb4568 3 ай бұрын
I had written a big long explanation about all this, but let me just say that the AI ban in the context of the MCU was a good idea. Also, more importantly, I wasn't asking when the quote was said, the issue is worldbuilding and consistency, not when the quote was said. (Fitz keeps up with laws in these fields because he's a science person and needs to know; it's consistent with his character to know this, and worry about breaking it and he would, rightfully, be in a big sulk if they repealed it, more so after the Framework and definitely at any point after Ultron because he cares about people being alive. There is no reason for any lawmakers in the MCU to repeal the AI ban, however. Tony Stark wouldn't want to break the law and get arrested because then the government could seize all his money and stuff he built his life around. The consistency in internal logic is the important part.) There was no evidence of this in the movies because the writers didn't need to think about the implications of events, whereas Agents of SHIELD, the more grounded show, made to demonstrate to power of the expanded universe, did There has continued to be no evidence of the AI ban in the MCU movies for example: Loki series 2, Spider-Man: No Way Home, Doctor Strange 2, and most importantly, in movies directly after Age of Ultron. Therefore, the Occam's Razor means that it didn't happen in the MCU, and therefore Fitz couldn't exist there because the lawmakers actually made sensible decisions in his universe, and didn't in the MCU.@@randomeditor247 There, that's three points, less nuance, and over 20 thousand words shorter. Just what you wanted, right?
@kassiescott8303 3 ай бұрын
I WAS LITERALLY THINKING ABOUT THEM LAST NIGHT NO WAY!!! God Pillar it’s like you reached into my brain
@PillarofGarbage 3 ай бұрын
I am an inhuman with the genetic ability to predict viewer desires and produce banger videos
@kassiescott8303 3 ай бұрын
@@PillarofGarbage they are always bangers 😌
@ZeeB... 3 ай бұрын
I just said the same thing 😅
@sacrificiallamb4568 3 ай бұрын
If Carol Danvers approaches you and she's acting differently, don't talk. She will start a Civil War 2.@@PillarofGarbage
@lukeyznaga7627 3 ай бұрын
I agree. You know, I MISS THOSE agents. I know supposedly they went on to other things. And, all those actors are a bit older. But I miss the characters. I think that those characters on the show WERE A LOT MORE interesting than many of the Marvel stories, MOvies and shows in 2022-2024!! I miss Quake and I miss the superfast spanish lady [mexico ?] Foreigners and people in Latino lands can have heroes also. There was so much potential to that show. I loved it when Skye [Quake ] ran into Ghost Rider....yeah!
@lucasluna1699 3 ай бұрын
Agents of SHIELD video, LET'S FREAKING GO!!!!!!!
@BaithNa 3 ай бұрын
AoS season 4 is the best season of television Marvel or DC have ever produced
@PillarofGarbage 3 ай бұрын
I can never figure out what I like best between AoS S4, Daredevil S1 & 3 and Jessica Jones S1
@sacrificiallamb4568 3 ай бұрын
Legends of Tomorrow is also there. And the other cancelled DC.
@defrostedrobot77 3 ай бұрын
AOS S3 was better I'd say.
@FlavieFreedom 3 ай бұрын
This is the video I didn't know I needed. Thank you for reading my mind, Pillars of Garbage. You are doing the god's work.
@tecpaocelotl 3 ай бұрын
I liked them. A lot of emotion through the series.
@ZeeB... 3 ай бұрын
I was literally just thinking about them yesterday, i always like them on th tv show. The only thing i had a minor issue was is Fizz and Simmons werent really fighters like Daisy, May, and others. During season 4-7 weve gotten to see more from these two and how badass they are in their own rights.
@aidanchilders9043 3 ай бұрын
Remember that their proposal came when she slashed the throat of the alien overlord who was enslaving her while he was gunning down guards John Wick style with a tranq gun and then jumping into an alien gladiator pit with her while Matrix shooting the forcefield controls to trap everyone else in the box so she could propose to him (based female proposal) without interruption. Your OTP could never.
@nathanieldiaz5254 3 ай бұрын
So happy to see one of the best comic shows get the love it deserves. FitzSimmons are easily some of the best characters in the entire MCU.
@chronisi 3 ай бұрын
Im happy im not the only one who thought these two were the best part of the show
@dogbreathTK 3 ай бұрын
i fucking love fitzsimmons
@MovieTvDrama 3 ай бұрын
4,722 Hours is my fave episode of Agents of Shield, the best episode for me.
@jasoncox4338 3 ай бұрын
"I've done the math."
@ppmm8769 3 ай бұрын
I just finished rewatching the series a week ago, thanks for your video!!
@AndrewBehm 3 ай бұрын
More proof towards my theory that Over the Hedge was never real...
@PillarofGarbage 3 ай бұрын
one day the truth will come out…
@survivalofthefunkiest 3 ай бұрын
Fine, I’ll rewatch agents of shield
@survivalofthefunkiest Ай бұрын
Just finished. I need these characters to return
@silentsigher 3 ай бұрын
I truly hope that Fitz and Simmons are at MIT and other colleges around the world recruiting new Shield agents. Can you imagine Ned and MJ going to class and it's Fitz or Simmons teaching
@MrTrueFury 3 ай бұрын
Always love seeing this show get talked about
@adammyers7383 4 ай бұрын
Great video PoG!! Very glad I suggested this one.
@cthellis 3 ай бұрын
I need Fitz-Simmons in almost everything.
@ArcaJ Ай бұрын
I like the running gag of Fitz, never being able to finish a meal, in the first season.
@mmem4264 3 ай бұрын
I loved FitzSimmons. I'm still bummed Fitz was barely in the final season.
@Arob4343 Ай бұрын
What I remember as the best episode, on first viewing, was the episode where LMD infiltrated and we don’t know if Fitz or Simmons is the LMD, at first. That tension was amazing, and Fitz-Simmons was incredible in it. And Daisy quaking Jemma to prove, to each other, that they’re real is an awesome bit. So yeah, Fitz-Simmons are the best
@jakob1658 3 ай бұрын
OMG I need to watch AoS again (for the fourth time) ❤
@theodore9668 3 ай бұрын
This was such a great topic to cover
@matthewk122 3 ай бұрын
Really hope agent of shield are canon to mcu
@mariannedarrow7227 3 ай бұрын
I absolutely loved Agents of Shield
@Jothsaa 3 ай бұрын
I love AoS and FitzSimmons so much!
@NadeemShekh-uy9zn 3 ай бұрын
Yes
@yasminfan3100 Ай бұрын
I love this sooo much. You nailed it! And the fact that this was posted years from its ending gives me hope that their characters may rise again somehow in some form even though I know Iain already turned down reprising his role in the future but all we can ever do is hope. Fitzsimmons fan can also be resilient like Fitzsimmons themselves!
@lukeyznaga7627 3 ай бұрын
Not trying to brownose or patronize, but, sir...PILLARS OF GARBAGE...i have been to a LOT OF fan sci fi sites, channels and pages. YOU ARE ONE OF THE FEW who takes time to talk about this. Its important, because people don't understand HOW WELL WRITTEN and produced that series was. They were the background regular agents/normal people, as you say behind the supeheroes. Without their work or them, the superheroes would not have the intel or the knowledge of completing some of their projects or fighting evil. You might say they are the "janitors" behind the scenes. You have good insight inot Cinema and story and plot. I WISH YOU WERE one of the writers of Disney shows and movies, but you are not.
@Yoshimitsu4prez 3 ай бұрын
I think saying they’re some of the most important characters in any marvel property is a BIT much brother
@akshaytrayner1960 3 ай бұрын
Great vid
@Simon-bv3zo 3 ай бұрын
Love the agents of shield videos
@JonathanSladkoTV 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely loved this. More Agents of Shield Content please! :D
@HotDogTimeMachine385 3 ай бұрын
It was interesting how Agents of Shield (Marvel) was airing parallel to The Flash (DC) and both had "one guy, one girl science side characters" and it was fun how they all started similarly, but ended in different places. (Fitz&Simmons for Shield and Cisco&Caitlin for Flash.)
@ThePonderer 3 ай бұрын
Ngl, I was never able to finish agents of shield after series 5 lost me, but Fitzsimmons were always the highlight.
@defrostedrobot77 3 ай бұрын
I'd honestly say the handling of FitzSimmons is a large part of the downfall of the show in the later seasons. They were being toxic jerks and the show never seriously held them to the fire for that.
@LicencetoMeme 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, season 5 was really lackluster ; but season 6 was better (not as great as 1-4, but still), and 7 nicely wrapped things up ; on top of being basically Doctor Who with the S.H.I.E.L.D., which instantly made it the best season of the show!
@aidanchilders9043 3 ай бұрын
Never have I felt as vindicated for subscribing to you as I did when I saw a new upload with the GOAT television couple of the 2010s, and quite possibly the GOAT couple of the entire MCU.
@Krytos13 3 ай бұрын
putting your thumb on the scale for over the hedge I see!!! ;)
@PillarofGarbage 3 ай бұрын
Ngl at one point OtH was in the lead and I (re)watched the film & made a bunch of promising notes I don’t want that effort to go to waste 😭
@Jane-oz7pp 3 ай бұрын
When episodes didn't have enough FitzSimmons for me I tuned out lmfao
@paulbrown9328 27 күн бұрын
Really no love for the other characters. I love fitsimmons but I don’t think they are the focal point or best. I think it’s the family dynamic between our main agents that drive the show. Whether it’s FitzSimmons, CoulsonDaisy, CoulsonMay, FitzMack, DaisyMack, DaisySimmons, etc.
@katemccarthy7531 10 күн бұрын
The ending to this video was so beautiful it made me cry. I love fitzsimmons
@ashlagerche8739 3 ай бұрын
You are one of the few youtubers who still cover AOS and i love you so much for it - AOS is criminally underrated
@LicencetoMeme 2 ай бұрын
Imagine being a Cloak and Dagger fan...
@lop90ful1 3 ай бұрын
Soo accute Agents of SHIELD is so underrated and i gotta agree Fitz-Simmons is peak
@ppmm8769 3 ай бұрын
Please do more AoS videos
@PillarofGarbage 3 ай бұрын
There’s 2 videos on my channel (partially) on AoS already - here’s a link to the playlist: kzfaq.info/sun/PLsf-M5Ux6kmWy7nI3B7ueYvPzUYn0QVn6&si=LGLCDGIhmu8vL8MX Nothing else planned for now, but who knows!
@statickaeder29 3 ай бұрын
Fitz-Simmons are the people that we care about most in all of Shield. May and Coulson are second... but second.
@defrostedrobot77 3 ай бұрын
Skye/Daisy/Quake say hi
@StormsofPeril Ай бұрын
Yes, do over the garden wall! Also, I want more aos to focus on different characters!
@gracebrown3074 Ай бұрын
Sometimes when people say Agents of Shield all my mind hears is Fitzsimmons 😂😂😂 They really are the heart of the show!
@sampettit4500 3 ай бұрын
Even though other characters take much of the spotlight like Daisy in season 2, FitzSimmons keep the show on its toes. With all the trauma and some questionable character choices from villains, the show keeps walking and kept going until the very end. Without them the show would be less interesting since it draws the humanity of Marvel away. With Fitz and Simmons, they’re romance and decision making are what make the show entertaining to watch and give the show the good writing and humanity it needs to develop the characters.
@SalAveNU 16 күн бұрын
Jemma was the driving force in season seven.
@skyrule 3 ай бұрын
lovely video essay
@LicencetoMeme 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, even during the worst parts of the show (I hated season 5 with the heat a thousand suns), they were really the reason to keep watching the show. (especially in season 1, when -Daisy- SKYE had less personality than in the next seasons) I also liked the fact the season 6-7 were mostly about finding Fitz, despite all the space-travel and timey-wimey of those seasons. And I'm happy some people remember Marvel's T.V. shows, before they were all cancelled due to buyouts. Agent Carter was great, Inhumans wasn't even that bad (except for the first episode), Cloak and Dagger... wasn't the best show ever, but man, was it working on the emotional side! And Runaways... Existed. The OST was nice, and that was about it.
@defrostedrobot77 2 ай бұрын
I don't know if the issue with S1 Skye was a LACK of personality as much as how it was utilized. And I'd say FitzSimmons became a problem from S5 onwards with how they were written.
@GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm 3 ай бұрын
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@taptapzip7633 3 ай бұрын
plz make more agents of shields vids!!!!!
@Icybubba 3 ай бұрын
You should consider doing a video about Daisy. If there's one thing those writers on the show loved to do, it was bully FitzSimmons and Daisy lol
@nathanyou1899 2 ай бұрын
So like timelords. It has two hearts.
@juanperret7044 Ай бұрын
This series was pretty good all things considered
@accidentalmadness1708 3 ай бұрын
Oh are we allowed to care again?
@jamesclark4578 3 ай бұрын
Joss input did not serve this series well and confused many of us at the time. It was a Marvel version of Buffy with Sky as the focal point a bit too often. Give us Coulson and The Cavalry. The rest could have been anyone.
@jessrl8025 2 ай бұрын
It was always about the sandwich.
@vitanpatel2061 3 ай бұрын
They are honestly too op for regular MCU, unfortunately. And I am absolutely fine with their great ending. But i get why others might want them back
@BradsPitts. 3 ай бұрын
S tier Marvel ship
@bdboricua3128 2 ай бұрын
How'd I miss this vid? I fkn love Fitz-Simmons. love this show. Marvel done them dirty
@TaurielTheElf 2 ай бұрын
How are they done dirty? They got a happy ending in the only Marvel show that wasn't cancelled.
@bdboricua3128 2 ай бұрын
@@TaurielTheElf they were separated from the main mcu timeline I wanted them integrated into it as originally intended
@serenity4eva89 2 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@BradsPitts. 3 ай бұрын
I know I got some flack for saying the show fell off a bit in the last season or two but omggg I miss this show so much. Marvel peaked here imo
@defrostedrobot77 3 ай бұрын
I'd say it fell off with S5 (arguably with the S4 finale).
@YumLemmingKebabs 3 ай бұрын
I realized in the latter seasons that I really missed when Daisy was funny. Like, she was still occasionally funny in the later seasons but it really toned it down to make room for her being either broody or badass, and it often times felt like a completely different character. I suppose the same is true for everyone in the show though.
@kivimik 3 ай бұрын
It's true that every member of the team was put through the ringer, and Daisy certainly went through some difficult stuff. However, after she put the "Destroyer of Worlds" behind her, her humor seemed to return to some degree in seasons 6 and 7.
@YumLemmingKebabs 3 ай бұрын
@@kivimik I stopped watching the show after the first episode of season 6... Killing off Coulson for real and then immediately bringing in evil alternate universe Coulson onto the show was just aggravating.
@kivimik 3 ай бұрын
@YumLemmingKebabs Fair enough if that bothered you. Season 6 was uneven but still had its share of strong episodes.
@defrostedrobot77 3 ай бұрын
Bro, putting up examples of praise for Fitz and Simmons and only showed Reddit posts for Fitz. Ouch. Also, feels like you could have gone back and at least put asteriks saying FZZT was Ep6 not 7 and same for The Hub (especially if you're gonna show the IMDB episode list with the correct numbers later). Anyway, in general, I think FitzSimmons were pretty solid for the first 3-4 seasons of the show but later on they became extremely frustrating. The separation plots became repetitive (tho some of that couldn't be helped due to Iain doing other things). But I really dislike how in S5 and 6 they just became utter jerks in the name of their love doing some really horrible stuff and the narrative giving them way too much of a pass (Daisy deserved so much better after Devil Complex and the show just completely shoving that under the rug was a huge F-up in my opinion). I'll take Mulder and Scully and Pam and Jim over these two any day of the week.
@saltoftheegg 3 ай бұрын
Imo they should have stayed friends and their relationship got boring after they became a couple.
@defrostedrobot77 3 ай бұрын
I'm fine with them being a couple but they became real jerks in the name of it in the later seasons. Was extremely frustrating to watch as was the separation drama.
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