What was the inspiration to build the early 17th century ship Mayflower II?

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Kroum Batchvarov - Underwater Ship Archaeologist

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@tedr. 6 ай бұрын

Excellent episode once again!! It seems we know little of the Mayflower, but much about her passengers. I'd rather like to know more of the ship.

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 6 ай бұрын

This just about sums it up!

@jameskrauzlis2634 28 күн бұрын

Another extremely interesting and informative video...i always enjoy your presentations with references to historical treatises and a valuable discussion of the evidence available, tastefully seasoned with entertaining humor. Thank you for posting this video!

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 20 күн бұрын

I really appreciate your support and encouragement! I am truly happy that you are enjoying the videos. I have been knocking around the field these 27 years or so, so i have come up with some knowledge here and there :-)

@utubefroggy 6 ай бұрын

Once again I have relived my past as I watch and listen to your talks, they remind me of my Geography profesor, like him, your delivery and subjects are fascinating and regrettably too short leaving us with a desire for more. On that note, I have recently purchased a kit of King Khufu’s ship of the sun, heralded as the oldest ship in existence. I would love to hear your comments. Thank you

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 6 ай бұрын

Thank you very, very much for the kind words! I am honoured! As you probably know, there were three barges buried next to Khufu’s pyramid. We can only assume they were part of his funeral procession. Two of them remain buried in their chambers. Only one was recovered and reassembled. This is a characteristic of Egyptian ships- they could be disassembled and reassembled as needed. The barge was a purely ceremonial vessel and likely never used except possibly for the funeral procession. I haven’t seen the kit, so can’t comment on it. Enjoy assembling it!

@thomasdeak7762 6 ай бұрын

Cool topic, I had the opportunity to visit the Mayflower replica in New England 10 years ago.

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 6 ай бұрын

I see her periodically when she comes to Mystic Seaport Museum for repairs and maintenance.

@genojoe3176 6 ай бұрын

Another fantastic video! Sorry about not responding sooner, but I had my surgery and couldn't read the screen.

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 6 ай бұрын

I hope the surgery went well! I wish you a speedy recovery!

@genojoe3176 6 ай бұрын

@@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist thank you, sir. All went well!

@Pocketfarmer1 6 ай бұрын

Wonderful episode! You got me laughing in under two minutes. One of the mates I ship with is from Mass. He refuses to say pilgrim and calls them separatist, with more than a little scorn in his voice.

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and the kind words! Yup- I agree. We still are suffering from this heritage in New England :-)

@hein_von_der_werft 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for another interesting video. I like this series very much! The "Mayflower" or better the "Mayflower II" is also a well known ship among the shipmodel-builders, because of the plastic-model-kits from various manufacturers. This brings back some memories of my youth, where ship modelling starts with this plastic kits and thereby my interests in maritime-history. There is another replica of a ship from an earlier period than the Mayflower. The "Golden Hinde" in London. Also nearly nothing is known about it. What is your opinion about this replica? Greetings from germany!

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 6 ай бұрын

I am aware of the Golden Hind “replica” and have seen it from a distance, from the river, but never from close up and have never been aboard her. Following the general comments I have made about many other so-called replicas already, I will say that this, too, is just somebody’s interpretation what a ship of this type and period might have looked like. I reckon she is based on Mathew Baker’s Elements of Ancient English Shipwrightry. The title is later addition, likely invented by Samuel Pepys who nicked the manuscript and added it to his collection of documents that he nicked when he left his office. It is currently held at Magdalene College, Cambridge, in the Persian Library. From what little I could see of the “replica”, she looked ok, but … she is no more a “replica” then Mayflower or Santa Maria. For Golden Hind all we know - again - is that she was of about 100 tuns burthen (not displacement). Not much to go by for a replica.

@hein_von_der_werft 6 ай бұрын

Thank you for explaining. I really appreciate it.

@daneast 6 ай бұрын

2:16 On what do you base the statement that "they were kicked out of the Netherlands"? Only some of the group (about half) departed the Netherlands for America, while the other half stayed and integrated into the local population. From what historic evidence do you assert that they were kicked out?

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 6 ай бұрын

Good question! I quoted this off the rope of my mind and need to track through my notes where it came from. Some of it is from History of Plymouth Plantation. Ill get back with you when I track down the reference. And yes, the less fanatical adapted and remained.

@slavkokozomora8893 6 ай бұрын

Mr. Batchvarov, i find your videos quite informative and interesting. When it comes to interpretation and design of famous but not quite fully researched vessels, what do you think of the "Bounties End", the Bounty launch replica from the "Mutiny" series documentary? As far as i've learned it comes close to the specs of an 18th century longboat and launch design, however i am sceptical of the details of the replica and the lack of use of the jib and bowsprit rigging in the series, as well of some small parts that look more like modern interpretations of parts than the "original" 18th century design. I'm curious about the details of this vessel because i'm currently working on the 1:24 scale replica of the boat and i want my models to be the best possible reconstructions of the original vessels and done with most historical accuracy as possible. Mrs. Batchvarov's channel has been a wealth of knowledge over the years when it comes to the technique, quality and compelling impression when recreating a historical vessel, but i would like to know your professional opinion concerning the question of original 18th century launch design and modern interpretations. I apologize for the longest comment in the history of KZfaq and i thank you for your time, as well as your and Mrs. Bachvarov's wonderfull videos and dedication to history. Thank you.

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 6 ай бұрын

And Thank You for a most interesting comment! First, Mrs B has killed completely my enjoyment in building models: when my attempts are in close proximity to hers, it is perfectly obvious that I should pick up golf or something else for a hobby, but definitely not display shipmodeling! My talent clearly does not lie in that direction and certainly is not In the same league as her work. Now to the launch question. The drawings of Bounty’s launch are in the Royal Maritime Museums, Greenwich. You can find it in their online catalog. In addition there are a few other longboats and launches’ drawings and models in their collections. They would be a good source of information- they are the original 18th c drawings, after all. For the rigging, try Steele’ Masting and Rigging. It was recently reprinted in a not-too-expensive paperback. Also look at the models at Greenwich. I have not seen Mutiny series- I don’t have a TV - so I can’t comment on their interpretation. You likely enough are right, I imagine. Thank you for the kind words and for watching. Let’s see how long I continue to record them

@slavkokozomora8893 6 ай бұрын

@@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist Thank you for your answer. I have consulted the Royal Maritime online catalogue for various research and tips for other models i've been working on andhave seen their plans of 18th launch boats, however the Bounty launch in particular is'nt currently available online for one reason or another, so i havent been able to lay my eyes on the original drawing. Concerning the mutiny series, i don't own a tv set as well so i watched it here on youtube. It's a fun little series and it's entertaining at least, but nothing too serios when it comes to technical aspects of the vessel. I will look into Masting and rigging, im sure i can learn a thing or two i don't already know. Thank you once again.

@anguscampbell9311 6 ай бұрын

Hah! I’d give anything to be able to show this to my 2nd grade “history” teacher, even if it means digging her up. Now, what about that Plymouth Rock? Thanks for the sobering history lesson.

@kroumbatchvarov-archaeologist 6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for watching and commenting. I am glad you enjoyed it! The Rock? Hmmm… I’ll think about it