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"What We Left Behind": Documentary looks back at "Star Trek: Deep Space Nine"

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5 жыл бұрын

Director Ira Steven Behr and actress Nana Visitor join CBSN to discuss the new documentary, "What We Left Behind: Looking Back at Star Trek: Deep Space Nine."
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@Audioholics
@Audioholics 5 жыл бұрын
The best of Star Trek was DS9. We will never see a show like this with such an ensemble of great actors, characters and storylines.
@ashdoglsu
@ashdoglsu 5 жыл бұрын
Ive watched TNG, Voyager and DS9 and DS9 was by far the best.
@stueygriffith4671
@stueygriffith4671 5 жыл бұрын
silly boy!!! you spelled TNG wrong!!!!!! DS9's Motto: Half as good as TNG, but still better than VOY!!!! 😉
@kadafi1987
@kadafi1987 5 жыл бұрын
TV is far better today than it was in the late 90´s, differently not impossible to make better trek than DS9, all it takes it the right people working on it with the right resources. just to clarify, i to think that DS9 is the best trek we had so far.
@TheRayvolution
@TheRayvolution 5 жыл бұрын
Facts. Facts. Facts!!!!
@rustknuckleirongut8107
@rustknuckleirongut8107 5 жыл бұрын
Ill give you characters and storylines, but for me the actors was my main issue with DS9. The acting was so bad I had real trouble getting into the show at first. Nana Visitor was probably the worst of them all as she did not manage a single believable emotion in the entire show.
@real_fjcalabrese
@real_fjcalabrese 5 жыл бұрын
Nana Visitor looks freaking amazing!
@shawnullerup6844
@shawnullerup6844 5 жыл бұрын
Frederick Calabrese Totally, and wise as well. And Ira looks like a blue-bearded Heisenberg, but no matter. DS9 was the best of the tv franchise.
@Alvan81
@Alvan81 5 жыл бұрын
@@shawnullerup6844 Ira is trying a little too hard to look younger, I understand why, given his profession.... But he's failing. Nana is a dancer, they are very athletic and usually age well.
@stueygriffith4671
@stueygriffith4671 5 жыл бұрын
definitly a BILF..... Bajoran I'd like to ****! 😉
@starshiptrooper2354
@starshiptrooper2354 5 жыл бұрын
She did. I saw it last night
@Bramon83
@Bramon83 5 жыл бұрын
@@stueygriffith4671 😅😅😅😅😅😅🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@leightonmann
@leightonmann 5 жыл бұрын
Nana looks great. Rob Halford looks okay too.
@Duncan_Idaho_Potato
@Duncan_Idaho_Potato 5 жыл бұрын
"Rob Halford" roflmao
@ashdoglsu
@ashdoglsu 5 жыл бұрын
Breaking the law breaking the law
@kurtispopp
@kurtispopp 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly thought that was pop group The Eurythmics in the thumbnail.
@DavianSinner
@DavianSinner 5 жыл бұрын
^So did I!
@thebipolarbear1
@thebipolarbear1 5 жыл бұрын
Haha nice
@yseson_
@yseson_ 5 жыл бұрын
Ira looks like hes been making blue dilithium in his garage
@midnighttornado22
@midnighttornado22 5 жыл бұрын
Star Trek/Breaking Bad mashup series when? lol
@nnamdre6612
@nnamdre6612 5 жыл бұрын
lol huffing blue dilithium
@michaeldougherty6036
@michaeldougherty6036 5 жыл бұрын
I like the guy's work. But seriously. Going out in public in a fedora, custom bottle cap sunglasses and a beard that looks like Sonic's pubes. I've only seen one worse case of a late-life crisis. I'm kinda surprised he didn't insist on being interviewed while on a motorcycle.
@paulmichaelfreedman8334
@paulmichaelfreedman8334 5 жыл бұрын
Blue Dilithium Meth
@tjsuda2010
@tjsuda2010 5 жыл бұрын
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 yes, that is the joke....
@xxxCrackerJack501xxx
@xxxCrackerJack501xxx 5 жыл бұрын
I regret not giving this show a chance sooner, I was fully on the DS9 hate train for _years_ until I was bored recently and gave it a watch. It. Is. FANTASTIC! Out of the entire Trek franchise it is consistently the most mature, well-written, and deepest series. It's a crime they didn't get a film, TNG was great but they didn't need 4 movies, I'd rather have a DS9 film any day instead of Insurrection or Nemesis
@xxxCrackerJack501xxx
@xxxCrackerJack501xxx 5 жыл бұрын
@MonkeyZorr ​ Yeah true, I think it's because it's just so different from what we're used to and it's easy to misjudge the show. Before i _really_ sat down and watched it I'd seen only like 4 episodes (out of order and context) and hated each one. I thought the drama was boring, the Ferengi were annoying, the station was limiting etc. but once I gave it a chance from the beginning I really enjoyed it, then by I think late season 2-ish I absolutely LOVED it. I mean the best example of character development and good writing is Nog, he's like Wesley's character but done *right* , never thought a weird little scheming Ferengi would end up being one of my favorite characters in the franchise lol
@scottkfilgo
@scottkfilgo 5 жыл бұрын
"Not as tied to canon"??? It WAS canon! It showed that there was room for stories that could never have happened in a new planet of the week series like TOS/TNG/VGR/ENT. It boldly went where no Trek has gone before. (Well, maybe Discovery!)
@billtree52
@billtree52 5 жыл бұрын
I think he doesn't understand what canon means.
@michiganjack1337
@michiganjack1337 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah this guy never watched or even bothered to take a quick glance at Wikipedia.
@rescrel
@rescrel 3 жыл бұрын
"Formula" might have been a better word.
@Vesnicie
@Vesnicie 5 жыл бұрын
Why all the unnecessary self-flagellation? DS9 broke plenty of new ground, and what's more, it was telling a story, not just ticking boxes.
@cloudwatcher608
@cloudwatcher608 5 жыл бұрын
Snuggles McSquishbottom I agree. Statistically only 3-5 percent of the population are gay, so it’s not a stretch for there not to be a gay character out of 10 to 12 characters. It wasn’t necessary for the times or the story, he shouldn’t need to apologize.
@KentonBenfield
@KentonBenfield 5 жыл бұрын
@@cloudwatcher608 In terms of mere statistics that may be right; however, the reason Trek needs to highlight these things, maybe even disproportionately to any such stats, is that there is a hateful and hurtful dynamic of exclusion and oppression against that category of people. Thus, it is Trek's overriding mission to bring that to light in the way only Star Trek can. If we finally get the future Trek envisions, then maybe there won't be such a pressing need, and we can fall back on statistics.
@michaeldougherty6036
@michaeldougherty6036 5 жыл бұрын
True, although they probably feel guilty for not allowing Garak to be as his actor originally intended, which was omni-sexual. So they bring it up. Although, they did have (to my knowledge) the first same sex kiss on a trek show, between Dax and her previous host's wife. Which I thought was fairly poignant since it showed that despite Dax quite literally changing genders, her feelings for her (ex?) wife remained unchanged.
@Vesnicie
@Vesnicie 5 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldougherty6036 Thankfully I was able to see the documentary last night in the cinema. Ira and Co. reviewed some major thematic points that broke new ground on TV, such as war, the human cost of war, homelessness, and gender identity. While they checked off the first three boxes, they left a question mark next to the last after a short debate about whether or not their efforts deserved total recognition, no recognition, or something in between. They did of course mention the episode with Dax, but also underscored the fact that this was just one episode. They had some funny ideas about how Garak might have developed under different circumstances. Overall though, and despite the fact that they were literally checking boxes as a sort of tallying-up in retrospect, they knew that their own greatest strength was the character-centered nature of the show and its ability to have compassion for human (or alien) foibles and struggle, with or without photon torpedoes to make things more complicated. We are all already quite complicated, and that alone can make a great story.
@rickmaurer8726
@rickmaurer8726 5 жыл бұрын
Desperate attempt to make STD the bestest Star Trek EVER! STD is doing EVERYTHING Deep Space Nine didn't or couldn't do. 😂🤣
@mr.brooks545
@mr.brooks545 5 жыл бұрын
“Deep Space Nine really moves the dial”. So true. STAR TREK DEEP SPACE NINE did honor to Gene Roddenberry’s vision. A truly great show.
@Seastallion
@Seastallion 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, and No. I think DS9 brought a realism to the idealistic vision that was needed. Humans are good, but not _that_ good. We have a breaking point.
@menthy
@menthy 5 жыл бұрын
Actually DS9 was so good because it was the first Trek that was totally free from Roddenberrys interference (because he was already dead). TOS and TNG were held back by Roddenberrys limited vision in which the Federation is always right and his officers aboard the Enterprise are never wrong. He created an amazing universe, yet at the same time, he didn't really understand human drama and storytelling. The writers of TNG almost rebelled against Roddenberrys stubbornness on a number of occasions. And the frustrations of writers, in part, led to the creation of DS9 in the first place. What made DS9 so good was that they subverted so much of Roddenberrys vision of the squeaky clean Federation. There's a weird sort of racism going on the way Roddenberry wrote his alien species. Like 1 dimensional caricatures. Roddenberry simply didn't have the emotional intelligence to come up with a character like Quark. And he never would've had the balls to write a masterpiece like "In the Pale Moonlight."
@curtyeomans8446
@curtyeomans8446 5 жыл бұрын
Janus especially the ending of "In the Pale Monlight" when Sisko is so clearly like "You're damn right I know it's wrong and I'd still do it again anyway"
@SweetBearCub
@SweetBearCub Жыл бұрын
@@menthy A bit of googling will confirm that Roddenberry was aware of the DS9 concept before he died, and he did approve it. He may have been stubborn in some ways, but he was open to change.
@mfundonkosi6927
@mfundonkosi6927 4 жыл бұрын
DS9 is the pinnacle of Star Trek. Thank you to the writers who gave us something truly special.
@mikeshadez
@mikeshadez 5 жыл бұрын
Why is CBS not bringing this guy's back this is good stuff
@kakarotlifted7302
@kakarotlifted7302 5 жыл бұрын
What, for ribs? You cannibal!
@matt2.092
@matt2.092 5 жыл бұрын
Kakarot Lifted what a great comment man😂
@hoscat1395
@hoscat1395 5 жыл бұрын
Cause they focus on the writing! Not sjw agendas.
@ems3991
@ems3991 5 жыл бұрын
Ugh. One of the best things about DS9 was how they didn't bring sex into everything. It doesn't need more sex, especially with Garak.
@cuzz63
@cuzz63 5 жыл бұрын
There were more sexual things than you would think, I went back and watched the show and Jadzia Dax was hit on by guys and then her relationship with Worf. The Risa vacation was all about sex..
@eurovicious
@eurovicious 5 жыл бұрын
And it's the only Trek series that ends up with basically everyone paired up. Sisko-Kasidy, Odo-Kira, Worf-Jadzia, Bashir-Ezri, Rom-Leeta, even Winn-Dukat. If they had written Garak as gay, it would have been no more or less "sexual" than those storylines.
@rescrel
@rescrel 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree and I think that could have been Enterprise's biggest flaw.
@NuntiusLegis
@NuntiusLegis 3 жыл бұрын
It was the hottest Trek series alone for the fact that it starred Nana Visitor.
@Felchenstien
@Felchenstien 5 жыл бұрын
Somebody show this to Alex Kurtzman so he can see what a group of real writers look like.
@shawnullerup6844
@shawnullerup6844 5 жыл бұрын
And to D&D Of Game Of Thrones, too. Their writing took a cherished storyline and flushed it into the crapper.
@ronjeffrey8641
@ronjeffrey8641 5 жыл бұрын
Nana Visitor summed it up perfectly, they knew they were standing on the shoulders of greatness... S.T.D is he'll bent to destroy what came before.
@seanp8220
@seanp8220 5 жыл бұрын
@Rosamund Powell It was never overrated.
@amurizon
@amurizon 3 жыл бұрын
@Rosamund Powell Garak and Quark's actors were overrated? Not sure you watched the same show. :P
@levkamenev3904
@levkamenev3904 5 жыл бұрын
Maj. Kira is to this day my favorite Star Trek character of all time. Such great character development. Nana Visitor was sooooo amazing in that role.
@robertpolanco1973
@robertpolanco1973 5 жыл бұрын
Personally, I LOVE "Star Trek" because I am a big casual fan of the franchise. I also think that "Deep Space Nine" definitely enhanced the vision of the late great eminent creator, Gene Roddenberry as well.
@lanecountybigfooters5716
@lanecountybigfooters5716 5 жыл бұрын
Beautifully made documentary. I was a PA on seasons 3 & 4 and I thought this was great! Made me tear up several times, actually. Great people, great show! Long live DS9!
@xunit62
@xunit62 5 жыл бұрын
DS9 is the best character driven trek took chances such as the introduction of section 31.The war arc and the introduction of the founders DS9 was always interesting.The writing and acting was always on point!
@MrChupacabra555
@MrChupacabra555 5 жыл бұрын
Its good to look back on what was probably the last universally loved entry into the Star Trek universe (when people talk about Voyager, Enterprise, and Star Trek: Discovery, you are likely to get much more arguments on how good each show was).
@MrChupacabra555
@MrChupacabra555 5 жыл бұрын
@Thomas B With me, as much as I liked Enterprise, particularly the last season, the order would be :TNG, DS9, Enterprise, Voyager.... STD not even in the equation. I just feel that DS9, particularly he Dominion War Arc, had some of the best storytelling overall, but TNG was the first new Trek after decades, so it holds that special place in my heart ^_^
@midnighttornado22
@midnighttornado22 5 жыл бұрын
@Thomas B Voyager was every dumb thing TNG was smart enough to avoid. Shame too, because the entire cast had some seriously great talent. Such a wasted opportunity.
@grendelum
@grendelum 5 жыл бұрын
*Garrek* helped the series a lot...
@johnIZaUWL
@johnIZaUWL 5 жыл бұрын
Unlike Voyager 🤣🤣🤣
@billforster1010
@billforster1010 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve loved DS9 since the beginning I’ve watched it over and over and never once thought Garak was gay.
@IndySidhu88
@IndySidhu88 3 жыл бұрын
Might have been bi, he was into Ziyal for a while but I think his appreciation of Julian was more evident.
@jorgepeterbarton
@jorgepeterbarton 2 жыл бұрын
He just seems chaste i dont get how it would be obvious i get he is a little camp but we are not in the 70s making jokes about floppy hands saying 'that means you gay'
@no2party
@no2party 5 жыл бұрын
Sisko always was my favorite captain.
@ashdoglsu
@ashdoglsu 5 жыл бұрын
I watched the entire series last year and i loved it. I think its the best of all of them. I thought the show would be boring since it was all on a space station but i was so wrong. I never thought i would like the Ferengi but i loved all the epidodes they were in.
@Sevlar01
@Sevlar01 5 жыл бұрын
Yes it is an amazing series and in my opinion the best of all Star Treks. My only critique is that the first 2-3 season are kinda slow. I tell people who have never seen it to hang in there because right about when Sisco Shaves his head and grows the Goatee it gets really good.
@carlleggett1379
@carlleggett1379 5 жыл бұрын
I own all the series on dvds and I'm never get tired of it
@ashdoglsu
@ashdoglsu 5 жыл бұрын
@@Sevlar01 Yea but i sure takes off after a slow start.
@stueygriffith4671
@stueygriffith4671 5 жыл бұрын
Ferengi... they were originally supposed to be the 'BIG BADDIES' of TNG. now relegated to a punchline on DS9. It's a shame they wasted Wallace Shawn on the show without ONE episode of "MY DINNER WITH WHORF....." not one!
@MarkovianMan
@MarkovianMan 5 жыл бұрын
True but it didn't pick up until they got the Defiant. So ultimately, they needed a ship after all. It would have ended much sooner if it had been just restricted to the space station. I'm in the minority in that it's probably my least favorite in the Prime franchise. I think mainly because I didn't like the Sisko character. He got off to a bad start with me by lacking the emotional intelligence to grip the concept that it was not Picard who killed his wife at Wolf 359, it was while he was Locutus after being assimilated by the Borg against his will. It would be like being angry with Anika Hansen after learning that she was once Seven of Nine after being assimilated as a child. They were victims themselves, not the willing perpetrators of Borg atrocities.
@destinycaptain247
@destinycaptain247 5 жыл бұрын
CBS interviewer guy, learn your Trek! DS9 was one of the most faithful spinoff Trek series to Original Trek Canon despite what the new Global Marketing Group might be telling you.
@Junkinsally
@Junkinsally 5 жыл бұрын
Destiny Captain -😂😂😂 Well the original show and reboot of the next generation were about exploring space and that encounters. DS-9 didn’t do that, so in that regard they were not following canon and that’s what the interviewer was talking about. Ira even said that..... watch the video again please.
@genon70
@genon70 5 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Garak in love with Ziyal?
@DieselxRobot
@DieselxRobot 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, he could have been bi but he definitely wasn't just gay
@Seastallion
@Seastallion 5 жыл бұрын
I think Ira is just steeped in SJW 'culture' and is overemphasizing it. The whole point of the Star Trek future was that NOBODY CARED, and people wouldn't wear their sexual identity on their sleeves. Being gay or whatever wouldn't be a person's driving narrative in life. It would be an extremely minor footnote at best.
@_robustus_
@_robustus_ 5 жыл бұрын
Seastallion It wouldn’t be the plot but it would be seen.
@Seastallion
@Seastallion 5 жыл бұрын
@@_robustus_ Sure, but it wouldn't be used to smack the audience in the face either.
@Lanceb131
@Lanceb131 5 жыл бұрын
That was my thought as well. From what I remember I don't remember anything that made me think of Garak as gay OR bisexual IMO.
@BammerD
@BammerD 5 жыл бұрын
I shed a tear on that final scene when the camera zoomed out from the station starting from where Jake and Kira were standing while the solo trumpet slowly played the show theme.
@TheAgent0060
@TheAgent0060 5 жыл бұрын
And the opening theme playing at that last part too. I just watched it this morning. It breaks my heart.
@Willpower-74205
@Willpower-74205 5 жыл бұрын
Not only that, in the post-DS9 novels, the station is destroyed and another one is built in its place. It was like watching the Enterprise exploding in Star Trek III. 😢😭
@Brook11223
@Brook11223 5 жыл бұрын
Deep Space 9 definitely was a more serious storytelling and the action for sure they pushed the bar. The quality in this show I think was more expensive because every area they pushed the bar and that made this show special.
@Ma_Ba
@Ma_Ba 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps you meant to type ". . .more expansive. . ."? (You can may edit your comment with a click on the gray dots to the right. Then I will delete my annoying comment! )
@seanp8220
@seanp8220 5 жыл бұрын
For a serious character driven show it also has the best and biggest space battles ever filmed.
@3lapsed
@3lapsed 5 жыл бұрын
That's Colonel Kira Mr CBS news guy
@menthy
@menthy 5 жыл бұрын
Yes you're right. But for the purposes of introducing new audiences to what is now a 20 yr old show, I'm totally fine with calling her Major. In my opinion, its better to call a character by the title they start with than end with so the new audience members can enjoy it more. (Game of Thrones spoiler WARNING) Like I'd rather they call Jon Snow Jon Snow rather than, you know, his OTHER name. These interviews aren't just for us DS9 veterans. Hopefully, it's for new fans too seeing DS9 for the first time.
@f1lmor
@f1lmor 5 жыл бұрын
@@menthy Her last name was Kira, I doubt that Mr News Guy is on a first name basis with her. And even if he was, he would probably not use her title ;)
@doctorpaul34
@doctorpaul34 5 жыл бұрын
Garack's orientation WAS pretty clear. He was in love with Ziyal.
@williamstevenson4928
@williamstevenson4928 5 жыл бұрын
Bisexual and pansexual people would like a word.
@BurntRAM
@BurntRAM 5 жыл бұрын
yea he also flirted with the doctor a ton during their little lunch dates. they debated, argued, which was noted to be a cardassian way of saying hey im attracted to you.
@doctorpaul34
@doctorpaul34 5 жыл бұрын
@@BurntRAM perhaps. When was this established about cardassians? I love the show and I never caught on to that. If so, one could argue that Gul Dukat was gay and was flirting with Ben Cisco. To be clear, I dont care if he was gay, I just think it's far reaching
@doctorpaul34
@doctorpaul34 5 жыл бұрын
@@williamstevenson4928 I'm all ears. Garack loved Ziyal and I saw no mention of other love interests of any type. I'd be ok if there were. If there is a particular episode that anyone wants to point me to, I will watch it and I will happily eat my words if I'm wrong.
@SteveSmith-fh6br
@SteveSmith-fh6br 5 жыл бұрын
@@williamstevenson4928 Maybe Bi and Pan people are straight and just don't know it. How condescending of you to try and appropriate what was clearly a straight character.
@tonyfelder1206
@tonyfelder1206 5 жыл бұрын
Garak was gay? Did I miss something? His only romance on the show was with Ziyal. Can't wait to see this documentary.
@sagesheahan6732
@sagesheahan6732 5 жыл бұрын
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY! 🤣🖖
@acorrales1380
@acorrales1380 5 жыл бұрын
If you watch the first episode he appears in (either Past Prologue or the one after), he came off a little too flirtatious with Doctor Bashir to the Paramount execs. I think the story goes Andrew Robinson was trying to portray Garak as a “pan-sexual” and the execs said no way. Now that you mention Ziyal, I think it gives that side of Garak another interesting layer that they could’ve explored.
@legotrekker
@legotrekker 5 жыл бұрын
He didn't have a romance with Ziyal at all. He turned her down and never showed any interest in her past a big brother or even surrogate dad complex. Garak was 100% coded gay and fans have been recognizing this for ages.
@Drownedinblood
@Drownedinblood 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's the classic assuming a guy is gay because they are flamboyant, and Garak was certainly flamboyant.
@legotrekker
@legotrekker 5 жыл бұрын
@@Drownedinblood It's a little bit more than that. He is flamboyant in a certain respect but he has a particularly flirtatious relationship with Bashir, has no apparent attraction to women throughout the show, and is written and performed with a very particular affect in his dialogue and behavior that is pretty specific gay coding.
@TheBarriMedia
@TheBarriMedia 5 жыл бұрын
One of my fondest memories as a teenager was watching ds9 it was my favorite Trek series from day one. This makes me want to binge watch it all over again.
@Drownedinblood
@Drownedinblood 5 жыл бұрын
This is my Avengers Endgame.
@npatil85
@npatil85 5 жыл бұрын
And better!!!!!
@sarahkinsey5434
@sarahkinsey5434 5 жыл бұрын
I really want a movie or a special where all of the character from the TNG-VOY timelines get together to fight some sort of badguy.
@krisjackson6102
@krisjackson6102 5 жыл бұрын
Amen.
@AshtonCoolman
@AshtonCoolman 5 жыл бұрын
DS9 was indeed the best Star Trek series to date. I stand by that wholeheartedly.
@PreacherAtArrakeen
@PreacherAtArrakeen 5 жыл бұрын
With Sisko lost, this show does need some kind of resolution. I mean, there was that episode where Sisko goes out of phase or something, disappears, and Jake spends his life trying to find him and bring him back. The whole point of that was that Jake needed his father. So how does the show end? With Sisko sacrificing himself to stop Dukat and the Pah Wraiths. I'd love to see another series of this show.
@wuboAF
@wuboAF 5 жыл бұрын
Well, I think the circumstances and timing of Sisko's "deaths" matter here. Gimme a break if I remember some details wrong, though; it's been awhile since I watched these episodes, but they're two of my favorites from the series lol. In the first instance, Sisko's death is a tragic and untimely accident that Jake feels is his fault. It's only when he learns his father isn't truly dead but lost that Jake becomes obsessed with undoing the accident. Otherwise, we see him live the mostly full life of a successful author and family man IIRC. It's only later in his life does he forsake all that to save his father. In contrast, Sisko's "death" at the final battle with Dukat and the Pah Wraiths wouldn't affect Jake the same way because he didn't play any role in the way events unfolded. Unless Jake feels after the final episode that Sisko sacrificed himself just for his son and not the entire Alpha Quadrant, then he shouldn't experience the same feelings of survivor's guilt he struggled to overcome associated with the previous story. I think the point of that first episode was to really show just how Jake could get on in the absence of his father, but the future gets all muddled because of Sisko's occasional ghostly appearances. I interpret that as basically what Jake's future has in store for him following the series finale, save for any parts influenced by Sisko's ghost.
@michaeldougherty6036
@michaeldougherty6036 5 жыл бұрын
@@wuboAF I'd suggest not reading any of the DS9 novels. Avery Brooks was adamant that Sisko not become the stereo-typical "black absent father". It was at his insistence that Sisko's sacrifice was not a death, but a transition from which he would return. Although it was left open ended as to when that would be. For whatever reason, the novels immediately throw all that away. He comes back and not only abandons Bajor, but his wife and newborn son in order to go fly around as a Starship captain. I hope that particular novel is never accepted as canon.
@menthy
@menthy 5 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldougherty6036 Yes I can agree with you about that but please do read the Garak novel written by Garaks actor himself. Excellent deep dive on my favorite character Garak. And totally consistent with the established canon
@kevink1575
@kevink1575 2 жыл бұрын
The point was Jake WASN'T alone. This was after 7 seasons of building these characters forced to settle this frontier together, to a family that could stand with Jake when his father made his sacrifice. That was the point. DS9 was now a family.
@CCJJ160Channels
@CCJJ160Channels 5 жыл бұрын
I actually didn’t care for this show when it first started but it quickly become one of my favorites. It’s honestly a brilliant series.
@Junkinsally
@Junkinsally 5 жыл бұрын
CCJJ160Channels -I never liked it. It was a soap opera whereas the others were adventure shows.
@CCJJ160Channels
@CCJJ160Channels 5 жыл бұрын
Lisa A Johnson - each his own, l guess. But the last four seasons of the show were pretty well all action.
@steelrat100
@steelrat100 5 жыл бұрын
Whao, Nana looks better than ever! Amazing lady. :-)
@kinglord318
@kinglord318 5 жыл бұрын
steelrat100 yeah and thats her real hair color too
@Raja1938
@Raja1938 5 жыл бұрын
Love, love, love DS9. The only loose end, however, was that Bajor wasn't admitted to the Federation. That was supposed to be the premise of the show.
@arnoldmayii3563
@arnoldmayii3563 5 жыл бұрын
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine is the best Star Trek show and my favorite Star Trek show!!
@deckofcards87
@deckofcards87 4 жыл бұрын
I rank it equally alongside TNG. Both are great shows but for different reasons with different styles and approaches.
@StephenSchaal
@StephenSchaal 5 жыл бұрын
It was very tied to canon, it just told a different kind of story. It didn't rewrite canon like a certain new Star Trek.
@xineohpinakc264
@xineohpinakc264 4 жыл бұрын
I loved that the minor characters had more progression that some of the major characters of the other st shows.
@kenschmiesing4442
@kenschmiesing4442 5 жыл бұрын
I really like when the interviewer actually is a actual fan or has done really good research for a quick interview:)
@xxxxbigrich5752
@xxxxbigrich5752 5 жыл бұрын
Wow‼That's awesome Captain Nog being shot at by a cloaked ship goes through the wormhole and the station is in front of him. I'm in.....sign me up....☺👍
@wuboAF
@wuboAF 5 жыл бұрын
I wanna know why the Defiant is still in operation 20 years after the Dominion war. Surely Starfleet could've given Cpt. Nog something newer 😅
@davidreynolds8865
@davidreynolds8865 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like Big would have asked for the defiant.
@xxxxbigrich5752
@xxxxbigrich5752 5 жыл бұрын
@@wuboAF That's funny😂😂 but you're right
@NuntiusLegis
@NuntiusLegis 3 жыл бұрын
Some laser pew pew so let's escape to the station ... I thought this was rather bland. At least they could have placed Kira into the Captain's seat kicking the cloaked ship's behind using guerilla tactics.
@clrobertson13
@clrobertson13 3 жыл бұрын
I thought ships had to decloak to use energy weapons...
@Toybinging
@Toybinging 5 жыл бұрын
"Plain, simple Garak" was simply a charming, flirtatious, and flamboyant single man who just happened to be a fashion designer who owned a clothing shop. Nothing gay at all.
@nativenewlondoner
@nativenewlondoner 5 жыл бұрын
D Dixon Totally not 😂
@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants
@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants 5 жыл бұрын
Ziyal and another woman from his past he was linked with did way more to imply he was straight vs bi. There is many single straight men that either love hookers and/or one night stands. He also was not flamboyant I have seen gay men who were flamboyant and you wouldnt even notice Garak was in the room compared to many of them. If the show really wanted to imply he was bi I think they could of done a lot better.
@jwhippet8313
@jwhippet8313 5 жыл бұрын
@@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants , right? He was kinda a watered down gay stereotype except for the loving women.
@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants
@DanRaidersWarriorsSharksGiants 5 жыл бұрын
@@jwhippet8313 Some people make it sound like he was so obviously gay/bi even people who worked on DS9 say that and I am a DS9 fan and I think the bar was sooo low to say that. I never thought he was bi the only characters who were implied to be bi or gay were the mirror Kira and her 2 lesbian lovers from what I remember.That was clearly implying a character as gay. With Garak if he was bi it was too watered down it should of been more obvious than it was.Some straight men ice skate and cut hair and make clothing for men/women even today. Some straight men always come off as single too and dont talk about or show their romantic/sexual life. I am just saying the writing in this one way was not good enough if he was openly bi as some say he was and felt everyone knew or should know. I dont think I am blind the mirror Kira was clearly bi.The writers did a better job with her.
@MarcusMIDI
@MarcusMIDI 4 жыл бұрын
:D
@toddstewart9070
@toddstewart9070 5 жыл бұрын
Garak wasn't gay, he was just friendly.
@thebes56
@thebes56 5 жыл бұрын
Don't you know? Every other person you meet now is gay....Like this Ira guy
@JP-eu2dc
@JP-eu2dc 5 жыл бұрын
Not gay at all. I've watched every episode. He fell in love with gul dukats daughter for crying out loud. Idk what they're talking about.
@toddstewart9070
@toddstewart9070 5 жыл бұрын
I have too, ive seen most of them when they originally first aired and several times after that. Garak was just an exiled and lonely Cardassian looking for friendship, not sexual. I never even thought of that concept until I saw this clip. Lies.
@JP-eu2dc
@JP-eu2dc 5 жыл бұрын
@@toddstewart9070I can't believe they're lying. I know jadzia dax can be mistaken as lesbian, but thats only because she was a man before. When he transferred to a Trill female body he who is now she displayed actraction primarily or entirely to men. Only in that one episode did she kisss her(his) former wife when she was male. After that they departed to never see each other ever again. Dax went back to being a normal straight woman. She was only making up for the past, not because she was gay even though she was warned not to get close again for it not to appear unnatural.
@JP-eu2dc
@JP-eu2dc 5 жыл бұрын
Ds9 was a great show, but besides that one case with dax and the major of the mirriorverse, gerak wasn't even close to gay.
@robotic1006
@robotic1006 5 жыл бұрын
All that needs to be said is DS9 is brilliant...
@sovak75
@sovak75 5 жыл бұрын
He called her Major Nerys, clearly the host wasn’t a fan of the show personally lol
@SteveSmith-fh6br
@SteveSmith-fh6br 5 жыл бұрын
He probably never watched an episode of Trek in his life and just got told to do this interview by his corporate overlords at CBS.
@Willpower-74205
@Willpower-74205 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps someone should show the interviewer the scene from TNG "Ensign Ro" where Ro corrects Picard about Bajoran names.
@rhatcher010
@rhatcher010 5 жыл бұрын
I saw the documentary last night is Brooklyn. I absolutely loved it. It reinvigorated my boyhood love for 1990s Star Trek. The doc was funny, moving, honest, and inspiring. A joy to share with the audience. It also felt like a not so subtle pitch to the network for an eighth season. I seriously hope to the Lords of Television that DS9 Season 8 becomes a reality.
@Popdaddy88
@Popdaddy88 5 жыл бұрын
Without a doubt the best written of all the Trek series. Whereas as good as they were, the other series were of the"return to status quo by the end of the episode" variety. DS9 had lasting consequences built into every episode. ALL of the characters that we see by the end of the series are VERY different people from who they were at the beginning. They all go through life altering(or life ending) changes and growth. And Sisko is hands down the most badass captain in Starfleet history. Love all of Trek, excluding the abomination that is STD, but DS9 is my favorite. Two best lines in DS9: "It's REAL!" "It's a FAKE!"
@estudiordl
@estudiordl 5 жыл бұрын
Love TNG, it was the point of the spear to ST glory. But DS9 was a masterpiece, best show in the entire franchise. For TNG I was too young, got it later, but DS9 get me in my teenage years and was my ST, from the first episode I didn't miss anyone. Still the only I revisited from time to time.
@CoinOpTV
@CoinOpTV 5 жыл бұрын
rewatching DS9 as we speak!
@thebes56
@thebes56 5 жыл бұрын
I have been too. On the last season.
@steampunkster2023
@steampunkster2023 5 жыл бұрын
At first glance, the thumbnail for this video made me thought "Oh it's the Eurythmics!"
@Shrpdrt
@Shrpdrt 5 жыл бұрын
Me too
@Mike19737
@Mike19737 5 жыл бұрын
Sweet dreams are made of DS9. 😎😉
@redshirtveteran5688
@redshirtveteran5688 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mike19737 Who am I, the Emissary?
@Mike19737
@Mike19737 5 жыл бұрын
@@redshirtveteran5688 I travel the wormhole And the seven prophets 😂😉
@Willpower-74205
@Willpower-74205 5 жыл бұрын
I guess everyone IS looking for something. 😉
@Trenaway
@Trenaway 5 жыл бұрын
I wish they would upgrade the quality of picture on it, to current standards, because to me DS9 is the best Star Trek series out there.
@manofbeard
@manofbeard 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see Sisko and Co back on Star Trek. Great show, great cast. Shame it had to end. After watching the interview with Ira and Nana. I can say for sure I was hooked from ep one.
@3fearlessboys453
@3fearlessboys453 5 жыл бұрын
Nana Visiter still beautiful!
@patrickmcshane7658
@patrickmcshane7658 5 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@markgowans
@markgowans 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone seems to be pronouncing Nana Visitors first name as NA NA. I always thought it was one word Nana. Why have I never noticed this before.
@captainnerd6452
@captainnerd6452 5 жыл бұрын
The thing that resonated with a lot of people myself included was how much DS9 portrayed humans realistically, flaws as well as strengths. Roddenberry dreamed of a future where humans had built a paradise with no conflicts nor any reason for them, because he grew up in a world of global economic depressions and world-spanning wars killing millions, and hoped for no more of that. The problem is that such a perfect paradise can’t be built on a foundation of flawed, imperfect humans, and so he had to imagine that out of our imperfections we’d be able to create perfection. Therefore, in all of the Star Trek shows all the characters were practically perfect, wise, calm, even when making mistakes the consequences were minimized and any conflict was resolved in an hour when they sailed off to the next story. DS9 dared to show real, flawed, hurt and scarred humans, who had to live with the consequences of their decisions and mistakes, without the opportunity to sail blithely away from them. The fans who believed in Roddenberry’s dream that we could perfect ourselves hated the idea that we couldn’t become perfect by our actions, which DS9 showed week after week. Those of us who have lived long enough to understand the good and bad of humans appreciated seeing the struggles the DS9 characters went through, trying to do their best in situations that they often had no control over, but which they still had to experience and find solutions to problems that sometimes didn’t work or even made worse. The quality of writing and production, and the skill of the actors to understand their characters and show us their lives also drew me and others to appreciate the show. I consider DS9 the best of both the flawed real world, with it’s imperfect characters, and the unattainable but much-desired dream of Roddenberry for a better future.
@menthy
@menthy 5 жыл бұрын
Yup this is the same reason why I regard DS9 as the best trek. DS9 had the balls to subvert Roddenberrys vision, for the sake of story rather than the dogma and doctrine which forbade the Federation from having any flaws whatsoever. The way I look at it, TOS and TNG are for idealists. DS9 is for realists. And I'm sorry if I offend someone, but I feel like DS9 is more appreciated by an emotionally mature audience that has some life experience under its belt.
@captainnerd6452
@captainnerd6452 5 жыл бұрын
Janus My favorite scene in DS9 was when Sisko confronted the Maquis officer, discussing why the officer defected to the Maquis (I forget his name). That back-and-forth really spelled out the differences in world view, between the collectivist “paradise” of the Federation being Borg-like in bringing cultures In but never letting them go, and the self-determining individualism of the Maquis who want no part of it. Powerful writing.
@deckofcards87
@deckofcards87 4 жыл бұрын
"DS9 has sort of a cult right now" No, that was 25 years ago. Today it is being reevaluated as a classic series.
@alexjohnston2734
@alexjohnston2734 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the show. Loved the cast. Would love to see it return!
@barrymccaulkiner7092
@barrymccaulkiner7092 5 жыл бұрын
The series needs to be remastered to *HD NOW*
@toddstewart9070
@toddstewart9070 5 жыл бұрын
might aswell be 4k now
@LloydWaldo
@LloydWaldo 2 жыл бұрын
It’s wonderful that teens are getting to experience this show again. It’s such a wonderful part of my youth.
@jcbvortex22
@jcbvortex22 4 жыл бұрын
I was in college while this was on and had no time for TV shows, but love Trek. So it’s nice to watch it with out waiting for the next episode and seasons were not 10-15 episodes, but 20-26+ episodes a season.
@carlleavey
@carlleavey 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see DS9 comeback, I loved it.
@vinayn9110
@vinayn9110 5 жыл бұрын
why didn't they hire Steven Behr that genius MF is obviously alive and kicking, instead of Alex Kurtzmann who knows nothing about Star Trek, his show STD has no characters, no good stories and just CGI's.
@denniswijker7162
@denniswijker7162 5 жыл бұрын
Discovery is great man :) Maybe you should give it a fair chance instead of looking at it with those negative goggles on ;) Also, ironically what you said is EXACTLY what 'fans' said about DS9 back in the day, and boy where they wrong :)
@vinayn9110
@vinayn9110 5 жыл бұрын
@@denniswijker7162 I grew up with TOS. I thought TNG was too tame compared to TOS, but it was still Star Trek. I used watch Voyager and DS9 when I had the chance. First time I saw the JJ Arbrams movie I turned it off and left in disgust thinking this is not Star Trek. Discovery is really JJ Abrahams Trek it's not real Star Trek. The Orville is made by real Star Trek people which is why most Trek fans like it. STD is completely different, from Enterprise, Voyager, DS9, TNG, and TOS. Its obvious that Alex Kurtzmann has not watched any Star Trek.
@roberthenryscott8176
@roberthenryscott8176 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see this show back on tv...one of my favorite star trek shows
@cosmobiologist
@cosmobiologist 5 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the doc. So many great moments. The HD clips were incredible!
@user-js1qe6ch6c
@user-js1qe6ch6c 5 жыл бұрын
The absurd canon question must have come from CBS head honchos.
@wphews101
@wphews101 5 жыл бұрын
just so they could plug disco on all access
@TimHarrison1
@TimHarrison1 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. Bad form.
@armyof100clowns6
@armyof100clowns6 5 жыл бұрын
66-05 - yeah, that question was pretty awkward when presented. At no point during its run, that I recall, did DS9 violate canon or in-universe “rules”. This really seems like a plant to justify the deep, extreme, and highly detrimental violations of canon perpetrated by STD. “Hey, guys! See? One of the best examples of Star Trek played fast and loose with canon so it’s a-ok for one of the worst to do the same!” Ira wasn’t playing that game.
@w7100
@w7100 5 жыл бұрын
the interviewer didn't do much research
@michaelparker2678
@michaelparker2678 5 жыл бұрын
The DS9 episode The Visitor had me in tears and really Effed with me emotionally. That episode should have won numerous awards. If you have not yet seen it I would strongly advise that you do and have a box of Kleenex handy just in case someone is dicing onions near by.
@abbaszaidi8371
@abbaszaidi8371 5 жыл бұрын
michael parker “to my father, who’s coming home “ 😭
@leahtigers771
@leahtigers771 5 жыл бұрын
Really happy to hear from you (DS9 crew) again. I love all the ST iterations for different reasons (perhaps even Discovery given time) - but they all carry the fundamental principles of what this vision was about; which is why they will definitely endure the test of time and why they continue to make such a great difference in people's lives - thank you all for this amazing legacy you're leaving behind. I really wish that you would all have received proper recognition while the various series were running. A real shame for the industry to have ignored the best it produced for decades in TV
@Scrapla1
@Scrapla1 5 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 80s and regretfully never watched TNG or DS9 in the 90s. About a year ago I binged every single series and by far DS9 was my favorite. Between the action and drama it was such a well written well executed show!
@chetopuffs
@chetopuffs 5 жыл бұрын
2:32 What? Because it wasn’t tied to canon? How did this guy, get this interview?
@joemcomber4415
@joemcomber4415 5 жыл бұрын
Loved the show but I disagree with most people in the comments section. I don’t want to see the series revived. Seeing what has been done with Star Trek Discovery and the Star Wars movies, I can only imagine that they would ruin something that was once great.
@eurovicious
@eurovicious 5 жыл бұрын
Joe McOmber Totally agree. I never understood this fetish people have for bringing things back. DS9 is perfect the way it is.
@xagon2012
@xagon2012 5 жыл бұрын
Good to see DS9 getting some attention. I am confident that unlike other people that have had their shot Ira Steven Behr would be able to create a new Star Trek show that would be both successful as well as faithful to the values of Star Trek.
@midnighttornado22
@midnighttornado22 5 жыл бұрын
I loved how DS9 by it's very nature deconstructed Star Trek as we knew it at the time, but still come out on top at the end of each episode reinforcing the ideals and vision that Roddenberry was trying to shoot for. Kira's fiery debut in the first episode left the biggest impression on me at the time it aired. Up to that point, the women of Star Trek were basically variations of Troi and Crusher. Ro Laren began the rebellious shift (who funnily enough, was originally supposed to be in DS9 before they had to create Kira), but Nana's first scene just wowed me, in the way that she portrayed the character as both aggressive but sympathetic, heartfelt but still take no prisoners. Just a solid addition to the Star Trek library of characters. Blew me away.
@Starfox371
@Starfox371 5 жыл бұрын
Great writing, that's what you left behind.
@Kairi091
@Kairi091 5 жыл бұрын
This interviewer has never seen an episode of DS9.
@antoniotafoya9433
@antoniotafoya9433 5 жыл бұрын
Loved this when i was a kid omg the best star trek show ever
@catcharide56
@catcharide56 5 жыл бұрын
My senior of high school I binged the final ten episodes of DS9 in one day. That day it became my favorite Trek show. Awesome experience.
@markmueller5825
@markmueller5825 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just going to say it, CBS please bring back Deep Space Nine
@sealdogg8325
@sealdogg8325 5 жыл бұрын
Best trek series !!! Wish they would do a trek series picking up after ds9 ... stop with all this pre-qual b.s. !!!
@whatmemories3728
@whatmemories3728 5 жыл бұрын
Bird up!
@sealdogg8325
@sealdogg8325 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe 🐇maybe ....................
@jamzales
@jamzales 4 жыл бұрын
Nana I loved your laugh. It was very infectious. Especially the scene where Kira and Gul Dukat are in the cave. Dukat-" I sat on something...I sat on something.....It already hurts major just pull it out." Then Kira loses it. And Then the episode where Julian Miles and Jadzia fly into wormhole and miniaturize.
@michaelparker2678
@michaelparker2678 5 жыл бұрын
CBS should really consider making a DS9 TV movie with all the special effects of a typical blockbuster SCI movie. Based on the reception which im sure will be through the roof, they should get the green light for a series, even if only for a limited run. This show was better then what we gave it credit for back then.
@Fryguysun
@Fryguysun 5 жыл бұрын
Star Trek: Babylon 5 was my favorite Star Trek series.
@Zero8880
@Zero8880 5 жыл бұрын
Ira says he missed the ball with not tackling gay characters, but I think all the major female characters on the show had a kissing scene with other women. Kira as the commandant, and mirror Ezri, along with Jadzia through her previous hosts memories. Perhaps he was thinking about gay male perspective. But I'm glad they didn't. I didn't love DS9 for it's romance stories, I loved it for how it tackled the broader issues of galactic conquest and war. I never cared for the cheap heat episodes, with two hot women kissing, even if it was risque at the time. Actually, when Odo linked with Laas, the other Changeling that was sent off to the Alpha Q as a baby, that was pretty close to a male/male sex scene.
@midnighttornado22
@midnighttornado22 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was thinking he might have meant being able to represent gay characters naturally without having mirror universes and alien symbiotes as reasons.
@captaineveryman6589
@captaineveryman6589 5 жыл бұрын
DS9 was probably the most tied to cannon. "Trials and Tribulations", for example.
@tachyontee3877
@tachyontee3877 5 жыл бұрын
And the Mirror episodes. Plus, the duplicate Cmdr. Riker from TNG popped up in DS9. Heck, Chief O'Brien and Lt.Cmdr. Worf came over to DS9. CBS is just trying to make it seem like they've been departing from cannon drastically way before they started doing it with Discovery. We all see through their BS. They need to stop it, but we all know they won't. They just have to jack it up.
@captaineveryman6589
@captaineveryman6589 5 жыл бұрын
@@tachyontee3877 I completely agree. Really, DS9 was more of a sequel to Next-gen than is was a Spinoff. The Bajoran/Cardassian conflict, the center piece of the show, all started on Next-gen. Same with the Maquis.
@cityseby
@cityseby 5 жыл бұрын
Saw the documentary earlier and it was packed!! The documentary is packed with content straight from the beginning until beyond the credits! Definitely getting the Blu-ray!
@JohnHillRSNStudios
@JohnHillRSNStudios 5 жыл бұрын
Well they did kinda “borrow” from Babylon 5... ;) Relax, it’s just a joke. I love both those shows!
@jimmydean2750
@jimmydean2750 5 жыл бұрын
This is true. It’s all Babylon 5...you better run. The hate mob is going to track you down
@Anarchist86ed
@Anarchist86ed 5 жыл бұрын
@@jimmydean2750 Uh, it literally is B5. They even lifted names from B5 like Dukat.
@legotrekker
@legotrekker 5 жыл бұрын
I've never watched B5 and I love DS9 but I'm pretty sure that this is all but confirmed fact. It's not Behr's fault or necessarily any of the other writing team's to my knowledge, but it's still reality that CBS stole the idea.
@Seastallion
@Seastallion 5 жыл бұрын
@@Anarchist86ed ...and Lita or Leeta, depending on your spelling. I love both shows anyway.
@perdition79
@perdition79 5 жыл бұрын
Who's the DS9 analogue of Zathros?
@_robustus_
@_robustus_ 5 жыл бұрын
Whatever the story, Ron Moore needs to be allowed to do again what he did for Battlestar Galactica.
@craigsmith2030
@craigsmith2030 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful nana visitor, what a smile. Gave everything she had on DS9. I binge watch the box set now and again. My no1 in star trek series. Nana lookes like she would do another 5 series no probs, brilliant actor along with an immense cast.
@supportingfire
@supportingfire 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't get a weird vibe off of her? 10-1, that chick has Borderline personality disorder... It's *_very_* common among actresses, followed closely by Bipolar disorder.
@craigsmith2030
@craigsmith2030 2 жыл бұрын
@@supportingfire im not sure to be honest, i think she is just a happy person alot of the time, aged obviously, who knows what shes been doing since DS9 ended, i see traits of a really good actor in her, and she looks good for her age, borderline personality disorder / bi polar im not an expert on that, but i dont no any evidence to say she has it, i respect your opinion and the only thing i would say is this, she may be on some sort of medication, a slight hint of that comes through.
@MatthewKodatt
@MatthewKodatt 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love DS9. It would be amazing to see a sequel series to DS9 all these years later
@43nostromo
@43nostromo 5 жыл бұрын
Did Heisenberg quit making meth and become a director?
@chetopuffs
@chetopuffs 5 жыл бұрын
How to push a narritive.
@marcodetter5782
@marcodetter5782 5 жыл бұрын
DS9 Crew I love you all. Much Respect to all of the crew. Watch the show on a weekly basis.
@JasonWaltonDriveAlong
@JasonWaltonDriveAlong 5 жыл бұрын
I've watched this from start to finish several times! I got tattooed when it ended for the love of the show.
@elimgarak8242
@elimgarak8242 5 жыл бұрын
Pretty obvious I am pansexual. I wish I could have expressed my feelings towards Bashir.
@NitpickingNerd
@NitpickingNerd 5 жыл бұрын
you did when you told him to take that rod and eat it
@elimgarak8242
@elimgarak8242 5 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerd unfortunately he ever ate it though
@vercoda9997
@vercoda9997 5 жыл бұрын
If they’d returned to DS9 instead of making - deep sigh - Discovery, they’d have had a hit again. Instead...
@sovak75
@sovak75 5 жыл бұрын
Ver Coda Only if they’d kept the original writers or at least writers who understood it
@XDragokingGames
@XDragokingGames 5 жыл бұрын
Ver Coda Star Trek Discovery: Deep Space Sigh
@vercoda9997
@vercoda9997 5 жыл бұрын
@@sovak75 True. But put it this way - after seven series, fans knew those characters inside out. After two much shorter series of Discovery, who can even name her bridge crew, the people constantly shown with the principal cast, let alone anything about them, the psychology of their characters, etc? DS9 is the only show that you could justifiably return to, in Trek...
@sovak75
@sovak75 5 жыл бұрын
Ver Coda Discovery is trash it’s not Star Trek and I would certainly never recommend returning to that if it were ever cancel as far as I’m concerned it should be canceled and forgotten about. I’m not sure so I’m not sure why you’re even mentioning Discovery. But TNG and Voyager are also shows that you could technically revive if you really wanted to. I don’t think they should because too much time is past. Add to the fact that if it were a five it will be revived by the same idiots were doing discovery who clearly don’t understand Star Trek.
@dne_274
@dne_274 5 жыл бұрын
Deep space 9 is life and poetry in motion. always have a ship named DEFIANT
@Johnsys359
@Johnsys359 5 жыл бұрын
I'm on my 4th rewatch of DS9. I still remember, when I was a teen, seeing the Defiant reveal and being over excited.
@kevinconrad7926
@kevinconrad7926 5 жыл бұрын
Garak? WTF? He's retconning like Rowling.
@Krshwunk
@Krshwunk 5 жыл бұрын
First of all, I'm morally against homosexuality. Second of all, both Rowling and the DS9 creators are not retconning these things. If you look at what the respective creators said earlier on, it's obvious these things were intended. With that said, despite any intents, each of these things are not a compliment to homosexuality.
@AshtonCoolman
@AshtonCoolman 5 жыл бұрын
Garak was a bisexual I guess, lol.
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated 5 жыл бұрын
@@Krshwunk, I mean, I'm morally against consigning myself to a life of celibacy just because I'm into other women, but I gotta say, kudos to you for being honest about that. Most who opposed these characters having these facets would _love_ to pretend it was a retcon, but unlike most anti-gay people I've met, you appear unwilling to twist facts into falsehoods to promote your agenda. Good on you mate, and live long and prosper! 🖖💜
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated 5 жыл бұрын
@@AshtonCoolman, the actor portrayed him as "omnisexual", which today would be called "pansexual", but yeah, pretty much. He likes dudes, he likes ladies, he likes people who are neither dudes nor ladies. He might even get all hot and bothered with a Tholian, and yes that terrible joke was entirely on purpose.
@Krshwunk
@Krshwunk 5 жыл бұрын
@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated Thank you. Peace and long life.
@Neomac316
@Neomac316 5 жыл бұрын
We need DS9 season 8......NEED not want...
@zaltmanbleroze
@zaltmanbleroze 5 жыл бұрын
They left a good deal of material behind and what did the writers do? They made Star Trek Discoverless.
@chrisaguilera1564
@chrisaguilera1564 5 жыл бұрын
Saw it tonight. It was amazing
@mikepachak9740
@mikepachak9740 5 жыл бұрын
Garuk? Asexual? Never saw that coming!
@slighter
@slighter 5 жыл бұрын
Mike Pachak Asexual?
@mikepachak9740
@mikepachak9740 5 жыл бұрын
@@slighter Ira Steven Behr @ 5:50 He is stumbling a bit... Is Behr saying Garuk was " a sexual" or "asexual"?? I know Garuk loved/cared for Ziyal but never saw an indication towards a male unless it was Bashir..
@slighter
@slighter 5 жыл бұрын
@@mikepachak9740 Ira says: "...Garak, who I think was clearly.. his sexual orientation was pretty clear! But we didn't go there." Meaning for Ira Garak was probably intened to be at least bi. But its true that his bond to Ziyal was the most forthcoming aspect when it comes to love concerning Garak. Its also possible that Ira mixes some things up after all these years or that it more wishful thinking on his part.
@mikepachak9740
@mikepachak9740 5 жыл бұрын
@@slighter found this on screen rant screenrant.com/star-trek-deep-space-nine-documentary-reveals/ Fascinating!
@skygiu
@skygiu 5 жыл бұрын
Cbs should stop to push STD crap... DS9 is amaaaaazing.... captain Nog all the time!!! Colonel Kira.... :)
@JustChase352
@JustChase352 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing show ! 🤘
@hindsightpov4218
@hindsightpov4218 4 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace Aron Eisenberg. We’ll forever love you as our dear Nog.
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