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The problem with having Rose not accept David Tennant quickly would be that it was the first regeneration for many people, meaning that the audience would also not accept David Tennant either. Personally I think they did the right thing.

I understand your point about Rose taking to Ten too quickly and it shouldve taken the whole series for her to come around to him but I disagree. As someone who only started watching Who in 2005 and had never been through a regeneration before, if it took Rose soo long to accept him, it might have taken me a while to accept him too! With Rose accepting him at the end of Xmas Invasion, it reassures the audience and tells them that this new man is The Doctor.

I personally think that Series 2 was meant to be less focused on character arcs. This era for the Doctor was supposed to be his sort of ”golden age”, where there wasn’t much problems, and he traveled everywhere with someone he loved a lot. This to me, emphasises the ending and future arcs of the Doctor a lot more. Because it’s the loss of those golden days, the loss of Rose, which sets up future arcs a lot better.

I never had any issues with this season, I always loved it. I often really enjoy more episodic shows, having no kind of conflict with Rose or not that much of plot throughline never bothered me.

Fear Her would be considered the highlight of the season if it was aired in the Chibnall era lol

I should say, this isn't, you know, my whole life. It's not all spaceships and stuff, because I'm into all sorts of things. I like football. I like a drink. I like Spain. And if there's one thing I really, really love, Jeff Lynne and the Electric Light Orchestra. Because you can't beat a bit of ELO.

If Rose lacks character development during season 2 I shudder to imagine what you think of the Doctor’s ‘fam’ during season 12

I love Series 2. I absolutely adored David and Billie together. Rose is far and away my favorite companion.

Sooo he’s saying season 2 was bad and the season 5 episodes were mediocre. Aight imma head out

I know season 1 has no bad episodes- But season 2 is what i live for. I love the chemistry between Rose and the Doctor, which was what season 2 is built upon.

Tennent was just a warmer doctor so it makes sense their bond would be almost instantaneous, capaldi was cold and that’s why he and Clara don’t gel immediately

I always just kind of felt like Ten and Rose getting on so well (too well?) was the point. Rose and Ten spend most of S2 flopping around not taking things seriously and so it felt inevitable when something really terrible happened. If there had been non-stop conflict going on between Ten and Rose then I don't think the ending would have hit as hard.

People dislike series 2 Rose? Heck! Not in this house. I will allow that series 2 lacks the pop of series 1 or 4 but Rose Tyler forever!

It’s always gonna be hard to top the near perfection that is Series 1.

I think the only reason I watched series 2 is because of David and Billie. Their acting is always so good that it compensates some of the badly written episodes.

I find it funny that one of the criticism leveled at the Doctor and Rose of series 2 being that they have such great chemistry instead of a conflicted relationship, but at the same time praises the series for it's experimental effort. The very idea of giving the Doctor a companion that he would actually love is pretty experimental. Most of the Doctor's following companions did stick to that dinamic of quarreling with him to keep the viewer engaged, but in the second series they decided to try something different. Most of the time, the Doctor is rather selfish individual, going around doing what he wants, picking people up as if they were strays and then dumping them, as Sarah says in School Reunion. He was a traveler, an adventurer and basically immortal. Of course he always did so, because people would always inevitably leave him. And when you say it was a rather experimental series, I think you nailed it. The central theme is basically a "What if..." scenario. What if the Doctor finally found someone that he connected so deeply that maybe the idea of settling down wasn't so bad after all? School Reunion and The Girl in the Fireplace show the usual endings of why this never happens. A companion that was infatuated with the Doctor, but gets left behind and a lover that is outlived by him. Would Rose become one or the other? At the same time, it's played as an impossibility because they are just SO GOOD together! They will certainly have a happy ever after won't they? The other episodes either emphasize their synergy and their growing love for each other (New Earth, Tooth and Claw, The Idiot's Lantern, The Impossible Planet, The Satan Pit) or reinforces the idea that, in the end, there IS a special someone out there for everyone and place where you truly belong (Rise of the Cybermen, The Age of Steel, Fear Her, Love & Monsters). Until reality comes crashing down on them. The worst fears of the Doctor come through, he can never be with Rose. The emotional impact is so great that he burns a whole star just to see her off.For so many episodes, they show how the Doctor just cares for the unknown, for the thrill. What does it matter if people die, if calamity strikes? He is having fun, being challenged, being threatened. Now, there is someone who is just like him! Other companions usually have something or someone they are still attached to, but Rose decides that it doesn't matter, her place is and always will be with the Doctor. And in the face of humanity extinction, after defeating two incredibly powerful enemies, one of them being so deeply connected to the Doctor's past, he doesn't even acknowledge it. The only thing he cares about, in the end, is Rose.

The RTD era is my favourite of modern Doctor Who, and Series 2 has always been my fav series. 10 & Rose are also my fav Doctor and companion. I don't think it's objectively the best, but I just love this series so much. Really enjoying your Doctor Who reviews btw.

The only series of its format I'll say which has 3 really strong two-parters. One of my favourites because I love Ten and I love Rose (#1 doctor and #1 companion), and it's one of the series which is most coated in nostalgia for me (I watched S1 as it aired but was too young to really remember, so S2 is the first series I fully remember watching as a kid). It also has my overall favourite story of the show as a whole in The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit. :D It's also kinda responsible for launching both the spin-offs

Every time you say “the fanbase thinks X about Y” I always feel like maybe I don’t know my own fanbase as well as I thought 😂 Loved series 2, David Tennant and Billie Piper, and the other companions given more light in the series.

Rose deserves more praise. If we count her good stories at least half hold up. Series 1 and bits of Series 2 Rose were good and why don't we like that?

I feel like Billie and David’s BRILLIANT acting makes up for the second series being a bit weaker. (Seriously BRILLIANT) As far as Rose and Ten having less conflict than Rose and Nine as well as David’s more human portrayal of the Doctor, I would argue that though yes these two are still the Doctor with memories from previous incarnations, they are two completely different people. As it’s been said when the Doctor regenerates every single atom in his body changes meaning genetics, how the Doctor looks, acts, how he handles different situations. Everything about him literally changes. If you think about that, the fact that Ten and Rose didn’t have as many conflicts as they did in his previous life makes sense since he’s technically an entirely different person than his ninth incarnation was. Yes Tens darker side does come out from the burden of his past incarnations and anything they’d done (*cough* Timewar *cough*) but it still makes sense for Ten to act in a Completely different way than Nine did. (Sorry if that was confusing I’m not great at explaining things)

Don’t think I’ve ever met a Doctor Who fan that doesn’t love series 2?

I suppose it really depends on what you look for in a series. Series 2 was my absolute favourite at the time for the exact reasons you disliked it. I was a young child, and the change from one doctor to the next was jarring, Rose accepting him at the end of The Christmas Invasion reassured me that the show was still the Doctor Who I fell in love with. On top of that, the stability of 10 and Rose's relationship gave a safety to the show that made it palatable to me, and overall less frightening, added with the fact that the romantic relationship development between 10 and Rose was what I tuned in for, far more than the actual action. As an adult I can see that a romantic arc isn't exactly great character development, particularly for your female lead but at the time, it was what would hold my attention most. The companion has always been the audiences way in to the Doctor's psyche, which is perhaps why a young man would see Mickey as far more of a draw, and why as a young girl I would identify strongly with Rose, and invest deeply in her relationship with the Doctor. Obviously these are the rosey observations of a little girl, however, I think the broad appeal to more of the population than simply the sci-fi junkies is what actually made the show as successful in the modern era as it was.

One of the few good things 2020 has brought is love and monsters finally getting more appreciation

I get that tension in relationships can make for great stories but I find it really nice for them to get on so well, the tension came from micky being there and the doctor being drawn to help other women.

Really like the video, but I must be living in different circles. Do people not like Rose and Tennant? Was it divisive? In general, I felt Series 2 and their relationship really hooked the fan base. I do agree with a lot of what you've said, but I wasn't under the impression it was a broadly held opinion.

I still don't get your obsession with the Girl in The Fireplace episode ... you're so quick to critique Rose and your expectations of how she should act around the new 10th Doctor...but you don't critique how the Doctor leaving his companions and Tardis on a spaceship is soo off character? Also how is Girl in the Fireplace a staple episode to the Season 2 plot? I agree that Tooth and Claw, School Reunion, and the Cyberman two parters are important...but GIRL IN THE FIREPLACE??? LMAOOO how does that episode contribute to the story arc?!?!

I love how your honest about the show. Too many people automatically say 10 is perfect and so were his episodes.

A bit of constructive criticism: I understand your reluctance to use any audio from the show, you don’t want to get hit with any copyright strikes or anything, but your point about the music being overpowering doesn’t work if you don’t show any examples. As you were talking about it I was thinking “huh, I’ve never noticed that, I wonder which scenes he’s referring to” and now I still don’t know which scenes you were referring to because you didn’t give a single example. Even if you’re not willing to play the clips, you need to at least mention which scenes it’s particularly bad in. In any form of essay, written or video, you can’t just make claims without providing any examples as evidence. If you don’t backup your claims, you’re just asking the audience to assume they’re true because you said so. If you can’t show any examples due to copyright, then you should have just left out the music part altogether.

Series 2 music: TOO MANY SCHOOL BELLS!!!! But you forget it because of the Cyberman theme and Doomsday.

as someone who grew up with Season 2 but has no strong memory of Season 1, I always despised Rose as a character and couldn't understand why she was so beloved. But now that I'm actually re-watching all of Season 1 from the start, she really does seem like a totally different character, and I actually LIKE her - she has personality, gets scared but is also brave and smart, isn't rude or dismissive to anyone who isn't the Doctor, actually challenges the Doctor, stands up for herself, and immediately attempts to connect with the people she meets on their adventures, showing her human compassion and genuinely caring for them. Rose of Season 2 seems to care about nothing BUT the Doctor, which is not how a companion should be.

Series 2 has aged well. I say that having watched it in the last four weeks.

That is really weird, I was just watching the Christmas Bride video.

Series 2 is underrated and gets too much hate, all 3 2 parters, school reunion, girl in the fireplace and love and monsters are all great episodes

I find it strange that so many fans who hate the Doctor's romance with Rose aren't half as annoyed by River Song. Not sure if Harbo falls into this category or not, but I see it from fans all the time and it baffles me. Sure, Ten and Rose had this giddy teen "first love" feeling to their romance that could be annoying as an older viewer. But I can forgive it as Rose is literally nineteen years old, and Ten is a new regeneration who, as Harbo says, has finally started to heal from the Time War, and who just has a more goofy, upbeat disposition in general. The romance itself can be embarrassing but it's built on some solid characterisation. I never felt that way about the Doctor and River. Eleven didn't feel like himself around her, Ten and River completely lacked chemistry, and River's dynamic with Twelve was diluted by his quasi-romantic relationships with Clara and Missy. She ended up feeling like a Madam du Pompadour, being portrayed as a great love of the Doctor's life in the episodes she appeared in but seeming not to matter or exist beyond them. The difference in fan reaction to the two relationships is really odd.

Not sure I agree with your take on the ideal characterisation for Rose in S2! Personally I find I get really impatient with seasons where the companion isn't sure whether or not to trust the Doctor. Rory mistrusted the Doctor for most of Vampires in Venice, and I don't think I could have stood it beyond that. Donna mistrusted him during the Runaway Bride, but I much preferred their tight knit friendship of S4. Martha clashed with the Doctor often, and is probably the companion who formed the least enduring bond with him as a result. It definitely damaged their friendship, making incidents like the Osterhagen Key possible but preventing you from feeling like they were as truly close as other companions. And I hated the Moffat Doctor's tendency to lie to his companions "for their own good". It felt so disrespectful. So you think something's happening with your friend's body where she may or may not be pregnant . . . and you don't tell HER about it? Who does that? It's the same with Clara and her past incarnations. Instead of respecting her and letting her in on a mystery which directly concerns her, the Doctor says nothing and the writing starts telling us "the Doctor lies". Which . . . well yeah, but there are lies and there are lies. That never felt like an authentic way for the Doctor to treat his friends. Hiding things about his own past is one thing, hiding information about his companions bodies is another. Maybe it's the fact that this attitude and the jerkface "the Doctor lies" characterisation was such a huge part of the Moffat era. Maybe I'm just burnt out on seeing companions who can't trust him. But one episode of doubt is enough for me, these days.

my issue with series 2 is that it has always felt a bit like a premature victory lap. In certain areas like Billie Piper's performance and RTD's writing you occasionally get a sense that they suddenly realised that they were "famous now" and that it impacts their performance

In my opinion, doctor who was built on seperate stories that are found together in a season. But that's how doctor who works: which planet will we see now- who's the monster- how will the doctor stop him/her.

Fun fact: the Abzorbaloff was actually designed by a child for a Blue Peter competition!

Everyone knows the worst part of series 2 was that the Doctor Who figured designed a Destroyed Cassndra frame toy and sold it for way more money than it deserved 😁

Great vid as usual! I totally agree with the description of series 2 as having many good eps but being bland overall. I still really enjoy it though, out of nostalgia and also just simply enjoying 10 and Rose together (even if they are "blander" than 9 and Rose). Looking forward to your series 3 stuff, I feel I'll finally start to disagree with you a bit :)

We are at the end already! How time files! Its martha time!

Rose is one of my favourite companions I grew up with David tenant every season the tenth doctor is in is just awesome. There isn't anything wrong with rose in season 2 it's all just soooooooo good

Is...is it really a bad thing to have limited conflict among the protagonists? I understand conflict makes things interesting, but characterization shouldn't be sacrificed just because "it's interesting". This is the problem I have with the romances in Harry Potter, they're too dramatic and filled with conflict that makes the characters unlikeable or just plain irritating. Not to mention, Jackie remarks on Rose's change at the end, so her being more happy-go-lucky is in line with her character in this series. I do agree that Girl in the Fireplace needed to be placed differently, because it does interrupt the flow of the romance subplot. All in all, I don't understand why it's cool to hate the romance in the fandom. Fangirls may make it utterly ridiculous in their tumblr posts and fanfics, but it's hardly this egregious black mark everyone makes it out to be. Some say "he's always been asexual," to which I say, "Tell me how he has kids and a granddaughter if he's never had a sexual relationship." Some people bring up the age, but Arwen is around 2000 years old while Aragorn is 87 (and don't you dare bash Tolkien), Wolverine is way older than everyone in the X-Men, and stories about these immortals falling for a mortal have been around since time immemorial. Now, if you just don't like it, feel free. Everyone has likes and dislikes. But saying that it's out of character or creepy or ruins the series objectively is disingenuous and projecting. If you don't like it, fine, but not everyone who likes it is a teenage girl who's never watched Classic Who. I'm a guy in my early 20s, and I both watch and love Classic Who.

The Impossible Planet and Satan's Pit are two of my favorite episodes in Doctor Who

So I actually loved series 2 and the lovey dovey relationship between the doctor and rose, my only critique is that girl in the fireplace doesn't fit in the context of the series and should have been in series 3.

The Rise of the Cybermen is one of the best two parters I think, it really feels like a well crafted alternative universe movie, but the way it brings back Jackie and Pete, just so well done. RTD really was fantastic

Honestly Rose and the Doctor didn’t bother me that much in this season, they could definitely be a bit much at times but it was tolerable. My dislike of them is moreso a retroactive one since it always bothered me how the Doctor lead on and ignored Martha in series 3 because he was moping about Rose. So I’ll be interested in seeing your coverage of that relationship for your upcoming reviews!

Where do you get your DW opinions from?! Who doesn’t like Series 2? I’ve never heard anyone say it was weak.

Wait, so you're complaining that series two was episodic instead of serial? 🤨 You do realize that _Doctor Who_ has always been like that right, it's always been a hybrid of random multi-episode arcs without a main story for the whole series.

there was character development though in the christmas invasion Rose had to do the doctors job and talk to the sycorax herself she miserably failed and got laughed at coz she was clearly making it up and stammering nervously however in doomsday she confronted the daleks herself and by talking was able to keep herself alive

Although I found this video interesting, I have to say that I disagree with the core concept. One of the greatest strengths of Doctor Who is it's ability to use a "adventure of the week" format without it getting old, due to the infinite number of locations, adversaries and situations that the premise allows for. After such a well constructed arc in the first series, I really enjoyed how series 2 allowed us to simply tag along with the Doctor and become attached to a new incarnation without all of the baggage a heady story arc would come with. Given the more standard arc structures of the following series, I think this may have been intentional as it establishes the unique tone of the new Who in every episode, building the universe instead of the characters. All of this said, I actually think series 2 was perfectly played to cement the universe and open the door for future series.

People didn’t like season 2? I’ve never heard that before

Series 2 will always have a special place in my heart as the first complete series of Doctor Who that I watched. I adore it, but I have to admit that it is the weakest of the RTD series. I think that Rose and Ten's relationship is actually a nice contrast to other Doctor-companion relationships. They work as a great romantic couple, and it serves to better highlight the differences between Nine and Ten, and later between Rose and Martha. It also highlights the fact that The Doctor and his companion are not perfect, and are not meant to be perfect. Rose and Ten can sometimes come across as a bit cliquey and exclusive, but they are rightfully called out on it, and I personally enjoy how the series builds up this idea of the two almost being too perfect for each other - amplifying each other's worst tendencies and excluding other people from their clique. It's a very human dynamic, and creates interesting conflicts with the supporting characters, crucially being the driving force behind Mickey's departure.

As an American, much more accustomed to episodic shows where only some of the episodes push directly into the season finale, I didn't overlook the more episodic nature of Series 2 so much as not find it problematic. As for both the Doctor and his relationship with Rose, both came out as exactly what I'd expect if Rose had a big influence on the Ninth Doctor through butting heads with him, which in turn is exactly what I'd expect from the man who just burned his entire race and is now questioning who he is and what it means to be The Doctor. Again, as an American, the things I expect to not be episodic are the influences of one season on the next one. That's where I look for development and that's where I saw it here.

I don't really have a problem with the sound mix personally, and I can't believe it was mocked in a sketch show. I could hear the dialogue perfectly fine.

I've always had a soft spot for S2. it obviously has flaws but I personally find it a strong series and a better series than S3, to be honest. Rose is my personal favourite companion in the RTD era, It felt like the others just weren't as fleshed out, most likely due to Rose having two series while Donna & Martha only had one, although the 10 & Rose relationship can get pretty cringey at times.

The Girl in The Fireplace is my favourite Tennant episode. Was so strong & emotional.

If Rose was the worst companion, Jackie was the best mom.

I can't believe what I'm hearing, people don't like series 2? People don't like rose? Series 2 is perfection it has a balance of everything. You say the doctor and rose have no chemistry followed by they get along to well. 🤔 the ending beach scene is brilliant and shows what they mean to each other. The fact he burns up the sun just to say goodbye. Guess you cant please everyone.

I always liked season 2 with rose and the 10th doctor because they feel like they are "becoming a couple" in a none literal sense thus making the fact that they are ripped apart and she is constantly taunted by her lose the rest of the 10th doctors run

It’s interesting, the Series 2 Doctor is probably The Doctor at his happiest in New Who. Really, almost every other series of New Who, The Doctor is facing some dangerous, intense threat, or he’s coming out of some huge tragedy, or he’s going around being introspective and grumpy. The Series 2 Doctor on the other hand, is just a happy guy going on adventures with his girlfriend. It’s fine, but you can say that it’s less interesting. There’s little personal conflict in Series 2. That’s probably why people don’t like it. Happiness is boring.

the problem with series 2 is not that its bad its a good series its just that its the series after series 1 and was not as good as series 1 in terms of quality of episodes. series 2 has episodes like new earth tooth and claw the idiots lantern love and monsters and fear her

I love all of the series under RTD, my favourites have to be Series 1 and Series 4

I always remembered Series 2 being ok, but when you look at every story as a collective you realise how average Series 2 really was

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When I look back this always my favourite series as I grew up and was doctor who mad at this point

I mean I love series 2. I just think it perfectly establishes David tenants doctor. The series does put Rose in a difficult place. The companion is always the audience surrogate. To a lot of people this would’ve been their 1st regeneration, they would themselves not be sure if the new doctor works. Having the audience surrogate not sure about the doctor would just make the new viewers struggle to get used to a new doctor.

Tbh I think it was probably a good thing that Rose got used to the new Doctor after Christmas invasion to sell the concept of regeneration to a new audience. She's the only thing we had left that we knew and related to. While I'm not in love with their romantic pairing, I liked the through-line of them treating their adventures like games and being called out on it and for that to hit them in the finale. And tbh Clara not accepting the new Doctor made it harder for me to get invested in their relationship. Especially when she's met other Drs before.

It’s definitely one of the weakest of the RTD era but I’ll always enjoy it due to it being probably the most nostalgic series of Doctor Who for me

I love series 2, because it shows a more happy, hopeful and carefree docotr. Also his relationship with rose was a really big plus in that.

Nice to see some appreciation for Love and Monsters!

Thank you for mentioning the background music. I don't know what it is about the sound engineers, but I get so tired of trying to hear what people are saying over loud background music that I often just stop watching sometimes, even when the show is Doctor Who. You'd think that since they pay the actors so much money, they would want the audience to clearly hear what they are saying, but apparently sometimes they would rather hear the orchestra and sound effects than listen to wha tthe Doctor has to say.

Who has an issue with season 2.. I have never heard this?!

I think the theme of series two is how the Doctor can change someone I mean, it's obvious for Rose because of series 1, but we also have Mickey who stopped being an idiot and was changed, Jackie and Pete found each other, we have Sarah Jane Smith who just can't have a normal life because of the Doctor, and that's also the case of Madame de Pompadour and Elton Pope.

Taking the Doctor and Rose's relationship aside, I still liked Series 2. There were others I liked better, sure, but I feel like a lot of the kinda forgettable episodes get a lot more flack then I think they deserve. Like, Fear Her was bad, but it had its moments, the Wire episode was honestly my least favorite of the series, despite liking the location and overall theme, and I still like Tooth and Claw, so idk, maybe I'm just weird. However, you are right, it did feel kinda, disjointed, especially when comparing it to other series in the show's lineup. Side note: As someone who lives in the states and having to download these episodes the day after they aired, because they didn't really air here until Series 5, I'm glad even with clearer quality people noticed how loud the music was.

Woa already at Series 2...the sheer quality of your channel is just fantastic. Keep it up! Looking forward to Series 204 Review!

I thought series 2 was absolutely great one of my favourites. I just cannot understand why others did not appreciate it so much. I watched every episode of new Who again during lockdown and I enjoyed it much less once Rory and Amy left.

Honestly when Rose was going to go I'd expected her to be turned into a Cyberman or killed by the Daleks. I felt sorry for Micky he is not the tin dog.

Episodes in series 5 range from decent to amazing imo In series 2 its more like terrible to amazing

Adoring this series. The style and quality of the reviews and also seeing the episodic and series tier lists slowly build up is so satisfying, I hope we’ll be able to access them once they’re all done. Maybe as a patreon reward?

1:26 That wasn't even the first time he appeared in Doctor Who. I think his first appearance was in Colditz as part of the Big Finish main range.

My issue with Torchwood is how much thematic overlap they have with UNIT - government org that opposes aliens including the Doctor if necessary - which probably explains why the former was eventually dropped from the show entirely. The anagram is amazing though

I do feel that season 2 is the weakest of the RTD era

Although Series 2 was a mixture of scattered episodes as opposed to the Series 1 package, as you say at 16:54, I think that helps writers see and understand the difference between the two series and help them decide how they want to create their stories. The same can be said about how each story arc's setup of Bad Wolf, Torchwood, Saxon etc. have different ways of being presented, regardless of how good or bad it helps from a learning perspective. After all, variety is the spice of life.

Idk what you are talking about with this. Most of the episodes of this season were among the best of all the new Who episodes and David Tenant pretty much is Doctor Who as far as I'm concerned. Also, I've not been overly fond of Doctor Who having the season build up to some threat towards the end of the season, I've always preferred episodes that were one off, that just focus on the adventure, rather than feeling like something had to happen. I feel like those episodes really played into the Doctor being a wanderer at heart, someone who wasn't out looking to save the world but someone who would not turn his back on people who needed help if he encountered them.

I thought I'd have to defend 10 and Rose, but I see plenty of commenters have done so already

I honestly love this season. Also Christmas Invasion and New Earth aren’t directly after each other and from what I remember Clara got used to 12 after Deep Breath and just moaned a lot in general anyway.

I remember seeing that doctor who parody but I can't find it now. What's it called? I was looking for a credit but didn't spot one

I prefer it to Series 3, which has a pretty disappointing finale.

Series 2 being episodic isn't really a flaw, it just depends on preference. I feel like it's very prevalent in modern times to scoff at episodic shows, but I don't understand where that trend came from.

David Tennant carries this season, him and Billie Piper even make episodes like the idiots lantan enjoyable for me

I think if they trimmed Fear Her and Idiots Lantern from the series id probably like it a little more. The Impossible Planet/Satan Pit is probably the strongest episodes from the series and probably one of the better 10th doctor episodes despite him not being there in the situation too much.

Whattt?! People didn’t like season 2 with Rose?! She my fav 🥺

The issue with season 2 for me is Rose, she was great at the time but since her we've had Clara, Martha, Donna, Amy, River and Yaz, they're what I consider strong, independent companions who hold their own far better than Rose did, the illusion of Rose has eroded since being given all these fantastic companions, which I don't think is a bad thing

It's a TV show meant for enjoyment. If you're watching and dislike it so much, watch something else.

Here’s a good reason for Season 2 being mid The Atmosphere needed to change after Christopher Eccleston but it didn’t The Tardis interior still had the Dark Dull Green Color and it looked serious despite David being energetic and That’s why Season 3 had a more bright and colourful lighting in the Tardis

Im currently on my Doctor Who marathon, trying to watch all series on the 2005 revival and after watching Series 2, this is one of the most decent seasons in my opinion • Underrated 2-Parters like Rise of the Cyberman/The Age of Steel ✅ • continuity like Pete's World and the foreshadowing of Torchwood ✅ • and a very emotional finale ✅ Some people hate this series but overall, it has a decent line of episodes and great storyline 10/10, bring on The Runaway Bride and Series 3

I preferred Bad Wolf personally, but I always love a character who gains some kind of powers, especially if it’s only for a brief moment, like with Rose. I always love the starts of XMen and Heroes when people start to gain these powers, and then figure out how to use them properly. Sadly, by the end, they’re all just too good and we just get big fights, which are boring. Bad Wolf was foreshadowed well, I even heard it mentioned in S01E02 yesterday which I’d never noticed before. The characters were referring to the Bad Wolf Corporation which we then see for real at the end. I thought it was great. They could’ve done more with Saxon during that season. It’s a shame John Sim is so famous, as they could’ve had him playing minor roles in an episode or two before we get the reveal at the end. Even playing a good guy in them, as this would’ve ended with a massive twist, and he would’ve been a bigger, badder villain if we’d seen more of him and in that light, as well. As it is he’s in two episodes and a minute, and is therefore just like every other two-part throw-away villain. Still love him, obviously! Torchwood was obviously done very well, and could t be improved for me. I agree though, I love some episodes from season two, but as a whole, it doesn’t fit as well as the previous one, and the following one. The mid-point Cybermen episodes are great, the two-part finale is up there with the best, and The Girl In The Fireplace is one of the best ever episodes in my eyes, up there with Blink and Midnight.