What were the Challenges/satisfying aspects of finishing The Wheel of Time? (Spoiler free)

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Brandon Sanderson

Brandon Sanderson

4 жыл бұрын

This is a brief excerpt from my exclusive stream for Dark One a few weeks ago. You may be seeing a few of these pop up over the next several weeks.
Sorry about the mic noise, we were trying to get another camera set up during the recording and the secondary mic was bumped a few times.

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@simoncampbell7282
@simoncampbell7282 4 жыл бұрын
can we just take a moment to appreciate how much work he put into finishing an epic 14 book series? fantastic job Brandon
@lotroadventure
@lotroadventure 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t imagine how scary that must have been. The pressure to deliver
@MadAtreides1
@MadAtreides1 4 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion: I didn't like it very much. Most of the books n 12 and 13 were just too different from Jordan's usual style, and Matthew's masterplan in book 14th was just a deus ex machina instead of finally showing Matt's military genius.
@WasatchWind
@WasatchWind 4 жыл бұрын
I just finished Oathbringer. Brandon, you never disappoint. I've loved your BYU lectures. They've helped me a lot in working on my fantasy novel about merpeople.
@anderhirschi2258
@anderhirschi2258 4 жыл бұрын
I managed to read Oathbringer in 3 days, and I didn't even realized I had stayed up till 2 in the morning.
@WasatchWind
@WasatchWind 4 жыл бұрын
@@anderhirschi2258😄I had a few late nights as well. Doesn't help that I'm already up late working on my own book.
@WasatchWind
@WasatchWind 4 жыл бұрын
@Tsentnin Kedidan Right here: my.w.tt/qiLg5qMwj8 My story is in a fantasy world where humans have imprisoned merfolk to harvest their scales, and the protagonist is a young scale farmer who faces questions of prejudice, all wrapped up in an adventure that will hopefully be interesting to guys as well as girls.
@MetalCharlo
@MetalCharlo 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the best moments were in those three books. Jordan's outlining and notes were probably extremely precise but Brandon is still the one who got the work done. Thank you.
@august4471
@august4471 4 жыл бұрын
I haven't read Brandon (he's very high on my tbr tho) but I really like him as a person. How opened he is with his fandom, his writting lessons are fantastic. Such a cool guy. If I ever get to write my book series I hope to be like him
@Trisjack20
@Trisjack20 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely start him next. His books are excellent and he is very deserving of his success. However also be aware that once you start you might end up reading his stuff striht for the next three years.... there is a lot of it! Then when you finsally catch up you find he writes at least 1 book every year!
@august4471
@august4471 4 жыл бұрын
@@Trisjack20 actually Im planning on starting the cosmere once book 5 of SA is released! But I'll probably start Reckoners and that other middle grade series before that
@Trisjack20
@Trisjack20 4 жыл бұрын
@@august4471 Depending on your reading speed even if you start Brandon tomorrow you are likely to have enough to read till 5 is out. It will only be 2/3 years and we will have it and there is a LOT to read. I mean Cosmere alone is what 12 books, 6 or 7 novellas, 3 graphic novels and more being written all the time. Just saying I wouldn't wait too long. Also I know some poeple like to know a series is done before they start but if you get up to date before then, you can have a lot of fun engaging with the other fans theory crafting and speculating on Book 5 and feel a little build up while you are at it :) Reckoners is great as is Skyward and they are great entries into Sanderson. Rithmatist is excellent too.
@TheRASDEL83
@TheRASDEL83 4 жыл бұрын
I would recommend starting with Mistborn Era1 or Warbreaker instead of Reckoners. You would start with great entries that are already part of the Cosmere. Just my 2 cents 😊👍
@august4471
@august4471 4 жыл бұрын
@@Trisjack20 im in the middle of being the kind of people who loves interacting with the fandom theorizing, discussing, etc but also prefer reading a series once is done so I know I wont have to wait and/or if it doesnt dissapoint later on (I loose intetest only if literally everyone says it gets bad). But knowing quite a bit Brandon's fandom, im pretty sure he wont dissapoint in book 5. He's said that he has everything planned and people say he always writes phenomenal endings (yeez, he even finished a massive series that wasnt of his and ppl was very satisfied, that is impressive) You made me think about it. I might make a schedule to finish book 4 at the time book 5 is released
@mohithkumar5158
@mohithkumar5158 4 жыл бұрын
It’s always a pleasure to listen to Brandon talk. Thank you so much for being so inclusive with your fans. We deeply appreciate your updates and the time you spend on answering questions in the middle of your busy schedule. I cannot think of any other author having this level of communication and produce so many amazing books. I absolutely love you for this.
@bonniebeingbonnie001
@bonniebeingbonnie001 4 жыл бұрын
Always learning something from this great teacher and author.
@wazzap898
@wazzap898 4 жыл бұрын
Now I wanna go back and re-read a bunch of the reunions from the last few books! I'm lucky I got to binge the series in one go, can't imagine waiting 20 years for characters to meet again 😭
@nvwest
@nvwest 4 жыл бұрын
I know right? Started b1 in January and I'm now in the middle of b14 and it already feels like ages. So satisfying to be able to read a finished series.
@beageler
@beageler 4 жыл бұрын
Well, without the wait I would never have started to read in english and would probably be not half as proficient as I am now.
@wazzap898
@wazzap898 4 жыл бұрын
@@nvwest honestly I finished the series, waited like a day then started it again. I tried to listen to something else (some cosmere stuff) and it was the same husband wife combo doing the reading as WoT, and I just couldn't do it 😅 had to go revisit my friends
@Hadrian1616
@Hadrian1616 4 жыл бұрын
The man, the myth, the legend. All hail the Lord Ruler Sanderson
@aaryashbharadwaj2812
@aaryashbharadwaj2812 3 жыл бұрын
The Church of Sanderson with the holy first witness (his editor)
@juicingmane8437
@juicingmane8437 4 жыл бұрын
I really loved chapter 50 "Veins of Gold" in TGS. Truly amazing chapter. Excellent job Brandon!
@PaoloSarti94
@PaoloSarti94 4 жыл бұрын
It's one my favourite chapters in all of wot, too! One of the most intense things I ever read.
@Nxrth2001
@Nxrth2001 3 жыл бұрын
Sanderson is a machine man. This man has made the last few years of reading such a pleasure for me.
@BeyzaByza
@BeyzaByza 4 жыл бұрын
Lately I've discovered your BYU lectures and thank you so much, they are so informative and I really enjoy while watching😊😊
@irisbear9421
@irisbear9421 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!! There was actually a time when I realized I had forgotten who Mat was. I am ashamed to say! 😬
@ollietaro
@ollietaro 3 жыл бұрын
😨
@samuelmcmullen7973
@samuelmcmullen7973 4 жыл бұрын
I've also been reading these books for 20 years and you did a wonderful job finishing them. You truly honored roberts vision, and tied up all those loose ends brilliantly! Thank you.
@theyoungcarpenter3249
@theyoungcarpenter3249 4 жыл бұрын
I’m late in the wheel of time I’m on book four but I can’t imagine how much pressure there was to finish this series as the man who didn’t start it
@MarsStranded
@MarsStranded 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder what he was saying during one of these when he signed my copy. That’s assuming this is a Rhythm of War signing. That’s also assuming he didn’t sign it while on the toilet. And that’s further assuming that these talks don’t just happen perpetually, even off camera. And that’s even further assuming that he doesn’t have cameras in his bathroom. And that’s assuming that his toilet is even in his bathroom. Okay I’ll stop.
@HeadCannon19
@HeadCannon19 4 жыл бұрын
In the description it says this was from an exclusive stream for the Dark One
@Wulthrin
@Wulthrin 4 жыл бұрын
gonna keep it 100 here i enjoyed your work on wot more than a lot of robert jordan's. i'm so glad you did it because i hadn't heard of you before then.
@belleah5562
@belleah5562 4 жыл бұрын
I finished wheel of time this summer, and I will say, I think that Mat becomes a bit more Wayne-like once Brandon starts writing.... not in every scene, but every once in a while I would have to remind my internal voice to read as Mat, not Wayne lol
@Mikeztarp
@Mikeztarp 4 жыл бұрын
Part of the problem with Ash and Taln is that they have other names.
@faithwerksdesigns6197
@faithwerksdesigns6197 Жыл бұрын
I JUST finished a memory of light and man I've gotta say you did an amazing job and even almost made me cry at one point lol. But I feel like I need more! lol What about what happens after? I've got so many questions but I can't spoiler on these lol so I think you need to write a filler book, there was a lot of things that got skipped for time sake and I'm nosy and I wanna know lol. Robert Jordan sucked me into this world, and you finished it out strong, thank you!!!!
@jessi4894
@jessi4894 4 жыл бұрын
"I wasn't going to write Perrin with the wrong personality..." In Towers of Midnight, Perrin had at least an entire book's worth of character regression. It felt like Knife of Dreams never happened and Perrin was back to whiny emo status again. He did a lot of manning up in KoD. But, at least it wasnt boring. Great job on stepping up the pacing and making things happen again.
@coltseavers6298
@coltseavers6298 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. You can even catch some more of his manning up in the other previous books too, like WH. I am reading The Stormlight Archive now. Enjoying it so far.
@timidalchemist8475
@timidalchemist8475 4 жыл бұрын
I do respect highly of Sanderson for trying his best to what he had given Jordan didn't have much notes left for some characters. I do miss his mat tho lol.
@Trisjack20
@Trisjack20 4 жыл бұрын
Hmmm your mileage may vary. I did not find this at all but then again I would never describe Perrin as whiny or emo so we probably just have very different views on the character and on the meaning of those words. So basically you can have that opinion of course but if you are interested there are very different ones and several of the readers think Brandon's writing of Perrin was very much in keeping with his ongoing personality. Anyway if you are interested on why I think that there's more below. If not, enjoy your reading and watching :) Personally I feel Perrin was always the one who did not to 'man up' (a phrase I personally hate). From the very beginnning he was someone who looked for balance and wanted people to be safe and happy. His challenge was that he had such intense physical strength and power of the wolfbrother. His journey is getting complete as he accepts himself as a leader on the Two Rivers, finds he can control the Berelain agression and comes to understand his wife. Moving towards being able to finally choose the hammer and be happy with it. Then she is taken throwing out his whole world. Then he embraces the axe goes too far and uses that to finally throw it away and embrace who he wants to be and rescue Faile and move onward. I don't see it as regression I see it as the culmination of his character. He has always been emotional, especially internally. He has always worried about strength, violence and his own potential. Those things do not disappear but for a while he got dragged into someone he was not in order to do something extreme. What we find in the last two books of the series is he has gone full circle and moved back to his core but better. Now he is making the choice he wanted to make in book 1 but doing it not because he is afraid of himself or the axe but because the hammer is who is is and what he wants. He has recognised that he does not need to be the savage who will torture a prisoner to be able to make hard decisions and that there needs to be limits to self sacrifice. Anyway, just never found him to not be written to Perrin's personality. No problem that you do think of that journey as a regression but wanted to put across why many of us do not find that the case. From his comments Brandon also does not think of it that way.
@tobi79777
@tobi79777 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah i skipped all perrin sections in the slog
@zenthepoet.
@zenthepoet. 3 ай бұрын
I'm on book 5 and finding it challenging but must reach the end cause, you know, Sanderson ending.
@aderek79
@aderek79 4 жыл бұрын
I think names aren't that important to people outside of identifying a person to another person. It is the interactions we remember. So while a name may be completely forgotten if we hear "it was the character who did these things" we usually remember.
@MadAtreides1
@MadAtreides1 4 жыл бұрын
So you think instead of Aragorn we could have had a Bubi and be as good?
@beageler
@beageler 4 жыл бұрын
I know you thought you were giving us a hint with the twenty years, but that could be almost every reunion between main characters, a lot happened in TFoH. :-D
@benbutler9282
@benbutler9282 3 жыл бұрын
as a WOToholic - thanks for this
@lyda145
@lyda145 4 жыл бұрын
Did you make a video about the organisation of your writing process. when you have to manage so many storylines simultaneously, don't you sometimes feel lost?
@johannortega101
@johannortega101 4 жыл бұрын
Probably, he has said that somebody of his team is the one person who has the actual timeline, showing where and when everybody was. On the other side if you want to see his process go to his website, when he was writing Warbreaker he was doing it showing the chapters as he was writing them and after his revisions too (not 100% sure about this, is something i have heard but no actually cheked).
@lyda145
@lyda145 4 жыл бұрын
jj hj oh i see. Thanks for the information I will check his website
@samuelmcmullen7973
@samuelmcmullen7973 4 жыл бұрын
Was the reunion with tam?
@IndigoStat
@IndigoStat 4 жыл бұрын
I get what he's talking about but who the fuck forgets about my man Taln? I refuse to believe that somebody could read all the three books and forget about the incredible badass that is Taln.
@Cobrampancy
@Cobrampancy 4 жыл бұрын
who is....ash and taln? are those the heralds?
@Tylertized
@Tylertized 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Ash-qp2yw
@Ash-qp2yw 4 жыл бұрын
Shallash and Talenat’elin - theyre two of the 10 Heralds, yes. You see them both primarily at the end of OB watching the Battle at Thaylen Field. They also show up unnamed in some interludes and stuff.
@WasatchWind
@WasatchWind 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ash-qp2yw Gosh I love the names on Roshar. I just realized that Connor is technically a Vorin name and now my future son will be required to be named Connor.
@danielb270
@danielb270 4 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the mad Herald and the Picture-tearing herald.
@iacobuseurus509
@iacobuseurus509 4 жыл бұрын
No they are Pokémon trainers
@piotrbrys8008
@piotrbrys8008 4 жыл бұрын
First! On a serious note: I've recently started WoT, and I can't wait to get onto your books
@armchairrocketscientist4934
@armchairrocketscientist4934 4 жыл бұрын
The Stormlight Archive is the greatest fantasy I've ever read. You won't be disappointed.
@Wulthrin
@Wulthrin 4 жыл бұрын
i wish you luck and godspeed. i found roughly every other book to be a slog until sanderson came in
@armchairrocketscientist4934
@armchairrocketscientist4934 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wulthrin And now I can scarcely read any fiction but Sanderson. He hits every happy place I have for fantasy. If Mistborn became a 2D animated film with an accompanying game, my soul would perish, having been completely fulfilled. Live action Mistborn film will still be amazing though, if it gets made.
@Aplesedjr
@Aplesedjr 4 жыл бұрын
awesome astronaut I think there is a table top rpg for both Mistborn eras, though I’m not sure how good they are.
@armchairrocketscientist4934
@armchairrocketscientist4934 4 жыл бұрын
@@Aplesedjr I should've specified - a Mistborn video game. As a hopeful game developer, I can see the amazing possibilities of using Allomancy for game mechanics.
@gumilarramadhan6265
@gumilarramadhan6265 4 жыл бұрын
i'm currently reading the wheel of time series. I'm currently in book 13 and i would say i have a hard time...liking most of the characters other than the 3 main protagonists edit:wrong book number
@belalaloca
@belalaloca 4 жыл бұрын
Um. There’s only 14 books?
@timidalchemist8475
@timidalchemist8475 4 жыл бұрын
That's the purpose. The main characters are a reflection of maturity whereas the others are reflection of how society can be stagnated in views like Tuon for example, she clearly has the right heart, but her mind is still fixated towards her home country/culture because she's the princess of seanchan and according to Jordan he was gonna do a Mat and Tuon series after WoT but never happened due to his passing.
@gumilarramadhan6265
@gumilarramadhan6265 4 жыл бұрын
@Evan Schubert whoops i mean 13th book
@gumilarramadhan6265
@gumilarramadhan6265 4 жыл бұрын
@@timidalchemist8475 i actually somewhat like Tuon, her motivation and choices make sense. The thing that i don't really like in many of the character is how easy it is the other characters accomplish a lot of thing. Many of Egwene accomplishments feel like handed out to her while her mistakes have minimum consequences, compared to Rand he struggled all the time. To accomplish something he had to sacrifice a lot and it's not always turned out to be good or successful at all. Gawyn by start of book 12 was portrayed as the most badass swordman in the world even though it was only what 3-5 year since the start of the series. The thing is, it makes sense Rand, Mat, and Perrin to become the king, leader, conquerer or whatever because they are supposed to be powerful Ta'varen but the other are not. Pretty much too many of the side characters either become master swordsman, master politician or master Aes Sedai and it trivialized the three main protagonist a lot.
@timidalchemist8475
@timidalchemist8475 4 жыл бұрын
@@gumilarramadhan6265I mean, given their connected souls of past events, it make sense to why characters become who they are throughout the series especially when you look at most of the characters parallels to Arthurian legends/Myths. Rand struggled due to his connected soul previous placement and passing it to Rand as he slowly overcome the struggles of being the chosen one.
@emmywardle3093
@emmywardle3093 4 жыл бұрын
Everybody in the comments: BrAnDoN nOtIcE mE PlS Me: I need ur email so i can send you my book. Brandon: LET ME LIVE MY LIFE but here, thank you btw
@Jay-kx4jf
@Jay-kx4jf 4 жыл бұрын
which reunion is he talking bout?
@EsaValkama
@EsaValkama 4 жыл бұрын
SPOILERS FOR BOOK 14: I think it might have been Moiraine. She disappeared in TFOH which was released in 1994, and reappeared in TOM which was released in 2010. That's sixteen years. I think the reunion in question was she and Rand though which didn't happen until AMOL which was released in 2013, so 19 years.
@TheMaginor
@TheMaginor 4 жыл бұрын
@@EsaValkama SPOILERS Could also be Rand & Tam
@Wulthrin
@Wulthrin 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMaginor i was so stoked on that reunion
@deborah_chrysoprase
@deborah_chrysoprase 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheMaginor This is what I was thinking too, but wasn't sure if this happened in one of Sanderson's books or before that
@TheMaginor
@TheMaginor 4 жыл бұрын
@@deborah_chrysoprase That was in tGS (2009), the first Sanderson book. They had not seen each other since tEotW (1990).
@ResandOuies
@ResandOuies 4 жыл бұрын
why add the annoying music?
@nachikahn4923
@nachikahn4923 4 жыл бұрын
I actually liked it but I wish it was a little quieter
@thedacria
@thedacria 4 жыл бұрын
Most videos that have lots of talking, especially if it's only one person include background music. It's a way to fill silence when the speaker pauses. During a livestream it's harder to add than in post. I agree though, it should be slightly quieter
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