1960. Axis won the Second World War. What would life, culture, art and music be like in such a World?
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@KnightOwl-kn6gm6 ай бұрын
Imagine having a government who was willing to fight to the death to protect your culture, instead of actively doing everything possible to destroy it. This actually sounds like paradise to me.
@theobroma77556 ай бұрын
But Nazis tried to eliminate big parts of German culture and to replace them with their inferior ideology.
@_biz_6 ай бұрын
What drugs you on
@AK-vs9nr6 ай бұрын
Shhhhhhhh dont tell 'em.... they wont understand yet. We need a few more years until ppl wake the hell up.
@longiusaescius25376 ай бұрын
oy vey..
@diegotrejos57806 ай бұрын
Imagine having a government willing to kill 6 million peoples including 20 million slavs for a delusion.
@qwertzuiop19785 ай бұрын
You forgot one important detail: A channel on youtube called 'Zvallid' would post a video titled 'What would happen if Allies won WW2?'.
@edmundblackaddercoc85225 ай бұрын
Is it still up?😂
@blakepollock80745 ай бұрын
Considering that there might not even be an internet in this timeline, probably not
@RaidenTheRipper9505 ай бұрын
"The World would become degenerate."
@vicentedacosta5 ай бұрын
Not KZfaq. More likely something like DeinTube😂
@jpmonkman5 ай бұрын
Better ....much better still having proper morale values!
@imperiummapper2 ай бұрын
"Call of Duty" would've been "Call of the Reich"
@joemana-mj3ro2 ай бұрын
i wonder if wolfenstein would been different?
@darko7mc1862 ай бұрын
@@joemana-mj3ro Wolfenstein would make the N*zis look good this time. Unlike in Canon where they made the N*zis as bad people as they are in real life.
@Samhobenji2 ай бұрын
@@joemana-mj3ro It would be "Westminster" with Churchill and mecha queen Elizabeth ii
@rogerlynch5279Ай бұрын
@@joemana-mj3roShurly not the Ad Clips to Part 1 and 2 and CHANGEOVER DAY might had become true. as wll as the CHANGEOVER DAY Game Show KZfaq: Bethesda/Wolfenstein 2/"Gameshow", put on lthe Net by spotwelders, But I had sent the " QUIZZMASTER " then as well to "RE-EDUCATION", instead of RICHTIG he wrongly used the Noun RECHT ( 0:38 in the clip )
@joemana-mj3roАй бұрын
@@rogerlynch5279 what the fuck are you yapping about💀
@Stolencamaro26 күн бұрын
We would all drive bmw m5s
@zvallid25 күн бұрын
and blonde gitls
@goldyoutube766311 күн бұрын
@@zvallid😳😳🤨
@zvallid7 күн бұрын
@@goldyoutube7663 blonde girls
@goldyoutube76636 күн бұрын
@@zvallid I Mean They Are Nice But Still 🤨📷
@stefanoarunzutunz66305 күн бұрын
😍😍😍🔥🔥🔥🔥 m2 competiziooon
@DeutscheDemokratischeRepublik6 ай бұрын
I cannot help but feel like this would be the most realistic version of an axis victory world, unlike all those hyper-dystopian scenarios usually presented.
@poopman42636 ай бұрын
true except germans pushing to urals, or the germans getting to the AA line at all in the ussr, Stalin wouldn’t have given up, and the germans wouldn’t have tigers or leopards, as they wouldn’t have met the soviet t-34 in battle yet. There would probably be a german aligned western europe , but not directly allied. Hitler would definitely dominate northern and eastern europe, but italy would probably split off from hitler and the Nazis as they did not agree with their racial ideas, and form their own block. On top of that (this is getting drawn out) Nazi germany’s economy would collapse shortly after the war, as the german economy was built entirely on war and prolonging of paying of loans. The cold war would be short lived.
@Luke_056 ай бұрын
Literally this is the best one I’ve seen
@etwasgutes35536 ай бұрын
What do you have against the" The germans take Europe and then Asia and Africa with Japanese to then wipe out the Americas" scenarios?
@googlestinkt51846 ай бұрын
First of all there wouldnt be mass migration right now
@TonyGModesto6 ай бұрын
Nazi Germany likely would have collapsed within a decade. It’s entire societal model was unsustainable.
@RandomHuman11033 ай бұрын
"European gamers would be shooting allies" got me😂😂😂😂
@Brick_guyy2 ай бұрын
Me too
@Brick_guyy2 ай бұрын
If there would be any games
@RandomHuman11032 ай бұрын
@@Brick_guyy Probably would be,but with heavy propaganda
@vinceheins2 ай бұрын
@@RandomHuman1103as are today
@ANewHandTouchesTheBeacon2 ай бұрын
@@RandomHuman1103You guys act like there isnt propoganda all ober the place in movies games, tv and ads🙄🙄🙄 you just dont notice it because its clearly too normal for you now. Or because your brainwashed, or simply agree with the propoganda. Its no different
@abbantologiabbavoyage27 күн бұрын
The important thing is that ABBA would still exist in this alternative axies's world, no one less Frida is replaced.
@dutchroyalnavy119 күн бұрын
hell yeah
@JK4ManC8 күн бұрын
True
@kirodarkpaw29665 күн бұрын
This sounds significantly preferable to what we have today.
@HissPhunnyCat3 күн бұрын
i'm sorry that you're like this
@frankib86203 күн бұрын
@@HissPhunnyCatwe are sorry u are like this too
@HissPhunnyCat3 күн бұрын
@@frankib8620 you're sorry that i'm not the type of guy to like a genocidal dictatorship? ok
@frankib86203 күн бұрын
@@HissPhunnyCat london went from 90% white to 40% in 60 years its what you support. aka attacking ethnic europen genetics
@PostrakCDP5 ай бұрын
Most "what if the axis won" videos talk about germany conquering the entire world. I like how this one is more realistic, feels like something that could have really happened
@perseus2744 ай бұрын
Yes, but Czechs and Slovaks would be Germans. Poles and Hungarians would be wiped out, so those nations existing and being part of "Ayans" is incorrect.
@stephenblacker12084 ай бұрын
Flawed in many ways
@landofthesilverpath58234 ай бұрын
It was never Hitler's intention to "conquer the world." The notion is ridiculous. But what political tendency was based on world dominantion? Hmmm..let's see. Oh...communism. and they nearly did it.
@damianoasteriti85304 ай бұрын
@@perseus274Prussianas would like to have a chat with you...
@fortunatomartino85494 ай бұрын
Without the propaganda about an evil Germany
@chethomas22177 ай бұрын
Its unrealistic that Finland would not regain former territories and more of Karelia. They were a German ally in our timeline and would ally with Germany in this timeline as well.
@perttiprutkula4617 ай бұрын
Finland has its former territories in the map
@palious137 ай бұрын
Technically incorrect. They were not a German ally, they were a cobelligerent. It's a samall difference, but an important one.
@Dinoface967 ай бұрын
Yep, not to mention that in the Nazi racial beliefs the finns were actually consider "on-par", and i do read somewhere mention that they were considered the brothers of the so called "nordic aryan race"
@MrFriendlyCsgoContent7 ай бұрын
you reallly believe the nazis wouldnt just backstab finland?
@coala20017 ай бұрын
CO-BELLIGERENT, not allied. Finland even had equipment from both Germany and the US.
@bobbyfischerman48113 ай бұрын
No boatloads of Africans being dumped on the coast of Europe every day, for sure.
@sayingnigromakesyoutubecryАй бұрын
And hopefully no Muslims they are worse
@KevinBalch-dt8otАй бұрын
Though in the scenario envisioned, Germany has an extensive presence in Africa. Plenty of opportunities for mixing. The colonized always make it bake to the colonizer’s homeland. See ancient Rome and today’s Britain and France.
@bobbyfischerman4811Ай бұрын
@@KevinBalch-dt8ot what’s your religion?
@KevinBalch-dt8otАй бұрын
@@bobbyfischerman4811 - None. Aesop’s fables has better moral lessons than any religious tract. Far more interesting to read. And kids know the talking animals are not real.
@blauwbeer556Ай бұрын
@@KevinBalch-dt8ot A lot of Rome's influence dissapeared within 1 generation of them leaving Brittanica, and Gaul wasn't much better as it was moreso army territory than civilisation territory. I do agree with your point, i just think that Rome is a bad example.
@nonickels897516 күн бұрын
Imagine living in a world where AI narrates media that alters your perspective
@nicmemak6 ай бұрын
"If the Germans won, we would all be speaking German." - Ok, now we're all speaking English.
@piratet0aster7196 ай бұрын
Nah you wouldn't exist - Hitlers Plan was to clear out lands for Nazi Germany upcoming population "superior race" Hitler secret project to breed only best once, This meant after fall of USSR the United States of America, Mexico, Canada was next in line ! To be used as slave power and rest of population would be killed in the concentration camps- Pretty much entire America. - On other side, Japan would done same thing to China, Australia, India. Stuff is scary.... I am glad We Won!
@matthiasklaus45506 ай бұрын
Soon my friend
@piratensender10656 ай бұрын
And more and more people in Europe speak Arabic..
@rinzlr35546 ай бұрын
@@piratensender1065it will never trump English. It’s far easier to learn and already more wide spread
would love a second part with an extended space race, cold war destabilization attempts by all sides etc.
@bwmasterr7 ай бұрын
yes
@leutnantobvious43407 ай бұрын
us and soviet space program without german tec and scientists? it would be straight up germany first and only .
@worldofdoom9957 ай бұрын
Except the UK had a huge Rocket and ballistic missle program that could have beat the Ruskies to space by five years had they not been broke. Its like me saying the Germans could never get a nuclear bomb because we has so much resources to do so.@@leutnantobvious4340
@screwstatists73247 ай бұрын
THANK GOD WE SAVED THE WEST FROM HITLER
@imadeanaccounttocomment78007 ай бұрын
Yeah my biggest problem with this video other than his suggested way for Germany to win the War was his portrayal of this alternate Cold War. It seemed like he didn’t have a firm understanding of the Geopolitics of Indochina and Latin America that made the Cold War what it was between the USSR and USA. Since things like the Vietnam War didn’t happen the cultural impact in the US would be huge, civil rights movement might have been delayed or did not happen altogether, no hippie culture and revolution in music, certainly more than just the lack of a few Vietnam war movies. He also failed to realise that the “communist” revolutions such as the one in Cuba was nationalist in nature as opposed to really being communist so they would have just gone to a different backer like fascist germany to achieve their goals and Germany would be happy to oblige because that’s how you wage a Cold War. Also I have no idea why he thinks China would be split into two, no matter how much money you give to generalissimo cash by cheque nothing short of all out total military intervention by the US in China would have saved his ass.(pretty sure that was the opinion of General Marshal). Could also have focused on the new fascist satellite states like France, cause it seems like he forgot about Free France completely and the numerous European monarchs that would have been displaced.
@SupaMan212214 күн бұрын
Italy was part of the axis, at least you’d have good food
@Squish_that_cat3 күн бұрын
I'm happy that Netaji subhash chandra bose becomes the leader of india in an axis ruled world He was a man of character and vision unlike Nehru
@matthewclifford20482 ай бұрын
Lots of work went into that, Well done
@slovakiaballif247 ай бұрын
I can only imagine the American meltdown if Germany was so far ahead in missile tech, given how massive the panic was for the soviets who were barely ahead.
@jmgonzales77017 ай бұрын
Soviet tech paled in comparrison compared to america
@aghomidaniel19377 ай бұрын
The USA would become isolationist and simply not care in this scenario
@wingedhussar14536 ай бұрын
Well nazis only want alot to concquer usa.they would have went for it.nazis were crazy and probably would start nuclear war
@Blackmage40016 ай бұрын
Problem is, German leadership simply did not have the mindset to organize large-scale scientific research usefully. Nazis are remembered as organizational masterminds, but the fact is they were mostly a mob of backstabbing mini-tyrants who spent most of their time fighting each other for political power and scheming for more loot. They also lacked the key group of scientists necessary to figure out that an atomic bomb was actually feasible. Mostly because they drove them all out in the 1930s! USA/UK had over a dozen Nobel-quality people working together. Germany had Werner Heisenberg, working basically alone, and who didn't really believe it was possible anyway. They also couldn't afford the industrial resources. People will point to the rockets and jets to argue against me, but the Manhattan project was about 2 orders of magnitude greater effort. Consider that the gaseous diffusion plant at Oak Ridge built in 1944 was the largest building in the world and it didn't significantly add to the bomb effort! The Y-12 plant that did most of the uranium separation was filled with enormous magnets, whose construction would have required so much copper for wire that it would have impacted the production of artillery shells... so instead they melted down the entire US silver reserve and turned it into magnet wire!!! The most realistic atomic weapons program for Germany would probably have been a heavy water reactor producing radiological weapons. But losing the heavy water plant in Norway wasn't actually much of a setback. (a) the "big shipment" that was sabotaged had something like 1/10th the D2O needed to start up a reactor. (b) that plant wasn't anywhere near the level of industrial cost of the Oak Ridge plants. Germany could have built a replacement somewhere more secure. They just didn't see the point given that it was just one of a dozen pie-in-the-sky projects being half-heartedly funded by various competing bureaucracies. Not to mention their lack of access to high-quality uranium ore. The only good source was Shinkolobwe in the Belgian Congo, and the Belgians managed to transfer all the processed ore to the USA in 1940.
@missk16976 ай бұрын
🤣@@jmgonzales7701
@Jardelz77 ай бұрын
This alternative story is more real than the alternative world of the book The Man in the High Castle.
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh6 ай бұрын
Truth! That mean that idea is not the best in the world about alternative ww2 war and post war alternative history. The Man in the High Castle is just a weak american alternative history story.
@Dung1NguyenTuan-ew4ey6 ай бұрын
To be fair there was far less in-depth knowledge regarding the Nazis and related topics in 1962 than now.
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh6 ай бұрын
@@Dung1NguyenTuan-ew4eyI can agree with you!
@careyfreeman50566 ай бұрын
Most instructive thing about that was how they would eventually eat their own. And I don't see that changing in this scenario. Just look at the leadership. Goering is the most competent and he's a pill head. Then you have the chicken farmer and the "ad guy".
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh6 ай бұрын
@@careyfreeman5056So, what you want to say to me? Who would be after Hitler death a leader of the Third Reich, in 1962, for example?
@mahanyazdani275714 күн бұрын
One of the best history based videos I've seen in KZfaq. ❤
@LeicaM118 күн бұрын
KZfaq would be named „DuRöhrst“😂
@na_trium_Ай бұрын
Haha, Switzerland is like "Where is everybody ?"
@DefrostedChicken3 күн бұрын
The Axis had plans to invade Switzerland, which may have been enacted here. It would be divided between Germany, Italy, and France based on the German, Italian, and French-speaking cantons.
@DrJens-pn5qk5 ай бұрын
Key sentence: "The winner of the war is always the good guy."
@megaham15525 ай бұрын
Not really
@NormalThe7th5 ай бұрын
World war 2 is basically one of the only wars in history where the winner were objectively better than the losers in terms of morality. The American concentration camps of the Japanese and the Kolkata famine etc. weren't nearly bad enough to give the German Concentration camps and the horrid Japanese treatment of China any run for their money.
@DonGivani5 ай бұрын
😂bs, you can migrate to North Korea if you want to experience this crap
@indiana-dani5 ай бұрын
he said the quiet part out loud...
@bunz6374 ай бұрын
You are really not trying to insinuate that the Nazis were “good guys”…😟
@roccosfondo87486 ай бұрын
While it is true that Germany have planned an invasion of Spain, it is likely that an Axis victory in the Mediterranean could persuade Spain to join without any fight.
@zvallid6 ай бұрын
an invasion is more persuasive
@roccosfondo87486 ай бұрын
@@zvallid you forget that Spain had not only an ideological reason to join the Axis but also a practical one: Gibraltar. Not to mention a big slice of that cake called Africa
@CapCody6 ай бұрын
@@zvallid Invading Spain would be a waste of resources, and Spain would probably willingly join
@Grummel19716 ай бұрын
As far as i remember spain offered to join germany but that was politely refused since a friendly neutral spain was regarded as more valuabel then having to support the badly equipped spanish army to defend their coastline, whitch would take additional troops out of the fight against the russians and western allies.
@mrblack8886 ай бұрын
@@zvallid You don't invade allies unless you want to turn your other allies against you. Franco was as anti-communist as Hitler, he was a useful and faithful ally.
@andreasmartin79429 күн бұрын
That sounded so... normal. As if it wouldn't make a difference.
@mediasinc.23963 ай бұрын
good video, it's definitely more believable than the scenario in Wolfenstein, although I'm not sure about that either ^^
@andreasmartin79429 күн бұрын
Pizza 'Himmler' would have extra chicken. And it's inventor would dissapear in a KZ.
@PPDN_Rockefeller3 ай бұрын
7:52 Adolf be like: Where the fuck I am?
@snn62622 ай бұрын
joe pesci's " what the fuck is this piece of shit" comes to my mind.
@burningtank1602 ай бұрын
"Is this Hungary? Where the fuck did Goebbels take me?"
@oliveryt7168Ай бұрын
Reminds me of Biden on stage..
@Martin-zj4bpАй бұрын
Hahahahahahahaha
@robertbeier5521Ай бұрын
@@snn6262 No definitely john travolta confused meme kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iNd6icRhy9KUYas.html haha!
@StarterOffical-Jousha-lf6ig7 ай бұрын
"This is not world War II this became like 135th European" Hit me so hard Edit: Omg 1k.This is my most famous comment
@ackwardHistoryoffical6 ай бұрын
No comments this comment with 120 likes? I gonna change that
@Retroist20246 ай бұрын
Wwi is also European war
@ekarn696 ай бұрын
@@ackwardHistoryoffical i disliked ur comment what are you gonna do ab it
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh6 ай бұрын
WW2 can be even USA never intervene in Europa against Germany and Italy.
@notsosilentmajority16 ай бұрын
Exactly!!!!! That was great. 😅😂🤣
@IwasInThe60s2 ай бұрын
Very thought provoking!
@kishascape21 күн бұрын
I like how he mentions proliferation of small portable radios. Shame he neglected shortwave though which was popular well into the 90s and Germany was a powerful broadcaster back in the ww2 times being easily heard in the USA.
@stevenmcgrath51145 ай бұрын
Don't forget the most influential fashion designer of his age Hugo Boss . . . 😀
@danielgoncalves8079Ай бұрын
what an excellent video thank you very much 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@The_Real_Slim_Shadow942 ай бұрын
Fighting on too many fronts. Battle of Britain was a huge loss of aircraft for them, and if they’d used those resources, they could have beaten Russia. Also, Germany would be unable to sustain such a large territory, so Europe was pretty much it.
@JavierCR256 ай бұрын
Quite an interesting take. I find it very realistic, not the doomsday dystopian scenario usually portrayed.
@gregorgerzson17676 ай бұрын
Yeah, I also love how objective it was. (I only argue with the football part. Hilter and Göbbels hated football, and cant stop flame the national team how bad they are, so in the end they just didnt care anymore.
@icosthop99986 ай бұрын
Agree
@ASLUHLUHCE6 ай бұрын
It's very optimistic to think they'd suddenly stop gassing Jews, and wouldn't genocide Slavs
@BelfastBiker6 ай бұрын
i mean, unless you're one of those the regime wants to kill. Yeah.
@larryhats43206 ай бұрын
TFW you realize the doomsday dystopian scenario is the one running live right now, based on what happened.
@CAProductions0517 ай бұрын
As long as I stay in the Americas I’ll probably be fine
@SlapStyleAnims7 ай бұрын
Yup
@missk16977 ай бұрын
Argentina:
@Epicgamerboy-li4rv7 ай бұрын
Antarctica:
@slayride1367 ай бұрын
Canada
@AdrielMichael-xo2hd7 ай бұрын
as a Nigerian who was colonised by birtiain i see us very well
@jamesofallthings36842 күн бұрын
I try not to think about it since it's just depressing how much better it would be.
@BunnyFilms3 ай бұрын
The neoclassical architecture is beautiful and i only wish it would be a more common sight nowadays
@JanosRado-gd2od3 ай бұрын
Can only agree
@Shirley10.3 ай бұрын
It would have been if we won
@primaitalia65863 ай бұрын
Yes. I‘m Italian. And i live the Imperium Roman and the Roman Architecture.
@ClipsOfVTubers3 ай бұрын
@@Shirley10. cars destroy our architecture, not freedom of speech, dumbass. Hitler was very pro-car so no, it would actually look worse than it does today
@Cokiecoler2 ай бұрын
@@Shirley10.take a shower for me bud🙏🙏
@matthewcragg36075 ай бұрын
One part I found unrealistic is both the use of multiple atomic bombs on Japan plus an invasion of the mainland. If two atomic bombs did the job of forcing a Japanese surrender in actual history it's unlikely 3.5 times as many atomic bombs would fail to accomplish this in the alternate history. However, overall, I really found this intriguing and well done.
@phillipswanson40555 ай бұрын
Actually that made sense. One of the reasons for the Japanese surrender was the Soviet invasion of Manchuria and Sakhalin island. That was cited by Hirohito himself in the surrender announcement and that didn’t happen in this timeline.
@phillipswanson40555 ай бұрын
Also it is likely if he did still want to surrender the august 14 coup could have had more support and succeeded. Interestingly, that plan had some parallels to operation Valkyrie but on a smaller scale
@zvallid5 ай бұрын
@@phillipswanson4055 exsct, the real reason was the soviet invasion of manchuria that destroyed almost all japan had in china in two weeks
@Andre-by4su5 ай бұрын
@@zvallid it`s not really accurate to say that it was the "real reason". It is likely that it played a role, since the Soviet Union played kind of an independent mediator role between Japan and the US before, but to say that the real reason Japan surrendered was the Soviet Union is like saying that the real reason Germany lost WW2 was Italy.
@Ironpancakemoose5 ай бұрын
Bro, Japan was borderline starving, their navy was obliterated, their airforce was castrated, merchant marine was obliterated, fuel was rationed like printer ink, and the Japanese experimented with eating bamboo as a food replacement. The japanese were incapable of offensive actions.@@phillipswanson4055
@user-xb5bh9ig1v2 ай бұрын
The best documentary film I have ever seen.
@Ayhunt73 күн бұрын
A country who is willing to protect its culture, people, and values.
@Ayhunt72 күн бұрын
@@HissPhunnyCat not true at the end of the war obviously, but look at the period between 1935-1941.
@nomad51956 ай бұрын
I love how Bose was the first prime minister of India because of the axis victory. Not a lot of people know that Subash Chandra Bose was in talks with hitler regarding the situation of India after a British defeat.
@zvallid6 ай бұрын
he was in berlin too
@heyybigdaddy69885 ай бұрын
And most Indian leaders had a good connection with Hitler.
@saranshsaini48705 ай бұрын
Some people say that he was a Nazi for shaking hands with Hitler, but you save your house before caring about others so the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
@kelvinicio4 ай бұрын
This video is incredible. The scenario depicted is so realistic that I could see in my mind clear images of all that happening as if it was a parallel universe. The german hippie movement was definetely going to happen. You should expand this scenario further in time.
@topcatandgang2 ай бұрын
germany didn't have aircraft carriers, they wouldn't have a chance. the oceans of the planet all have sunken submarins that have the designation U on them.
@albotiger726819 күн бұрын
It would have been better.
@jringe01Күн бұрын
The map of the post war blocks also contains some errors...Allies would have occupied Greenland, South Africa would be in the Allied camp, the Saudi's would be at least neutral but most likely German occupied/influenced as would the rest of the Arabian Peninsula due to it's strategic position
@Azide.016 ай бұрын
This is one of the more, if not most, realistic Axis-Victory scenarios. It isn't too far fetched and the details from Women's rights to music. Speaking of, Music related sub-cultures would probably boom in countries like Germany, Sweden, the UK, Ireland etcetera. While they would most likely be punished and condemned heavily, Sub-Cultures, fashion and genres like Punk would probably either be much more popular and larger than they were IOT or non-existent because of the presumed notion that things like anti authoritarianism, Femenism, Progressivism, Socialism and all related/similar ideological standpoints would be heavily censored and kept out of the minds of the people. With such an Authoritarian regime all throughout Europe, it's not hard to imagine that nothing but Nazism and other related ideologies and subjects are the only ones taught in schools and from a young age, with other ideas and standpoints being prohibited from entering the Regime, though there is always someone who comes up with these ideas in the end, so it's not entirely implausible to say rebellious Sub-cultures and genres would exist, so much more than than our timeline.
@zvallid6 ай бұрын
good analisys!
@choossuck76536 ай бұрын
Far far far from reality
@onpointoriginal5 ай бұрын
@choossuck7653 If you want reality, it's right there in the history books!
@choossuck76535 ай бұрын
@@onpointoriginal the history books that were either written by or proofread in Israel. Really really rich.
@onpointoriginal5 ай бұрын
@choossuck7653 Wow, an actual anti Sem*te. Now I get your user handle, I just thought you couldn't spell. It's confusing following your trail of thoughts across your 2 comments, but with all the big thoughts swirling around in your little head, I'm sure that must be your daily condition
@ScarletRebel967 ай бұрын
Your alternative history is on another level dude , great job! 😊
@Juntasification6 ай бұрын
Well its pretty much how its descriped in the book "Fatherland".
@BOOTBOSS15 күн бұрын
This doesn't sound all that horrible for some reason certainly interesting
@alisalar842 ай бұрын
You forgot also the iran revolution wouldn't happen and Iran remained a peaceful country something like today's Canada
@volvodude10124 күн бұрын
I can assure you that canada today is not an example of anything good at all.
@ziomudru6 ай бұрын
I have never heard a more realistic alternate WW2 history
@manacola5 ай бұрын
How can we say accurate when referring to hypothetical sinerios? Why do the good guys always win? They don't. There are no good guys. The winner just gets to call themselves that.
@ziomudru5 ай бұрын
@@manacola amen
@nnnnnn36475 ай бұрын
Probably yes. The author only forgot to mention that entire nations, for example Poles, would be 100% murdered.
@miketackabery75214 ай бұрын
I have never heard a more unrealistic version of an alternate WW2. So many alternatives just to get to the starting point (that the axis won). Ridiculous.
@tsdobbi3 ай бұрын
His scenarios for post war may seem more realistic, but his alt history for how they won is pure fantasy. He basically pretends American lend lease was never a thing. Which was largely the reason WHY Hitler declared war on the US after Pearl Harbor. The Russians seemed all but defeated. The Americans would be wrapped up in a war with Japan and they would now be free to attack US shipping of war materials to Britain and Russia. He literally says in the video "Germany doesn't declare war on the US because thats absurd". It was not an absurd thing to do strategically in the moment. Its only absurd in hindsight, because we know the Russians turned it around before an American soldier ever even engaged a German and the US managed to go from a 3rd rate military power to a Superpower capable of largely fighting the Pacific war on it's own while still field almost 2 million troops in Europe by the end of the war.
@maidenslayer6 ай бұрын
I very much doubt Hitler would have invaded Spain
@leblon7126 ай бұрын
There was no need. Both Spain and Portugal, and Brazil and Argentina too, has gone fascist on their own.
@andru925910 күн бұрын
Very fair good video
@august-karlgrafv.d.schulen2360Ай бұрын
Well Spain is unrealistic probably especially because the nationalists were supported by Germany and Italy. Franco just didn’t want any war and H. wanted to replace him with someone who would join the war as far as I remember
@duosythe5 ай бұрын
“something like the 135th european war” lol
@TheCrab784 ай бұрын
Underrated humor for sure
@Luke_056 ай бұрын
This is the best “what would have happened if the Axis powers won” video I’ve seen and I’m thankful to you for making it
@penduloustesticularis120219 күн бұрын
It would be a far sight better than the Europistan we have now.
@NayanRanjanMukerje11 күн бұрын
Soviet would have collapsed without support of USA. New government would have kept Russia as it is today ( same as end of WWI). Germany would have kept Ukraine and some other parts. NOTE - The conflict became world war because colonial powers forced the colonies into the war, all the major nations are still and has been in war since, but none is termed as WW.
@breadman39547 ай бұрын
Abba not existing is possibly the worst alternative history consequence ever convieved
@JumlesssMapping7 ай бұрын
"The European Gamers spend all their time shooting allies instead of axis" 😭
@akmalvargas34026 ай бұрын
I can imagine, playing battle of Gibraltar campaign as a Wehrmacht soldier
@theregnarute6 ай бұрын
:-)
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh6 ай бұрын
Yeah! That would be lovely games for me too! Petty, because they do not exist!
@swedenisthemotherland39526 ай бұрын
@@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mhJust play as Axis in Hell let loose.
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh6 ай бұрын
@@swedenisthemotherland3952 Yeah! We really lost the war, before 78 years, but that was a good fight. But, finally, at the end our fight and will would triumph. Because we are the only hope for Europeans and white race. But, Israel, USA, Russia, China, England, France, ect., do not want that. And they want destroy your in ww2 neutral country. That winners of last global war!
@MrBROTHERFELDER9 күн бұрын
They would’ve had a sitcom in Germany called “Hoffmeister’s Heros” (?)
@drakegod847 ай бұрын
About German being the primary language learnt in Europe. For this to happen Germany would've had to have a monopoly over the entertainment industry. This is the reason in my understanding why English is spoken frequently today the world over. Not only because it's a trade language, and because of colonialism, but in large because of the entertainment industry.
@zvallid7 ай бұрын
interesting, mau be you are right however in the east europe they all speak russian being under soviet influence for decades
@syndicalistcat31387 ай бұрын
That would be the case for sure, they would be the dominant one 100%
@drakegod847 ай бұрын
@@zvallid Seriously? The most common language in the soviet block is Russian? I almost find it hard to believe since the Russians were hated so much. I would assume they too speak English as a second language. I mean you're older than me and are from Italy, so you have more experience, but I would assume English.
@pvp2167 ай бұрын
@@drakegod84older folks speak native language + russian since it was mandatory in school and english wasnt
@mattia83277 ай бұрын
German is not a singable language though. I think Italian would rise in popularity as Italian music becomes more commonly listened to.
@84Goji3 ай бұрын
Quick Question, Does The Godzilla Franchise Still Exist In This Timeline? Also before me and my mom watched this for 8th grade homeschool she thought that it was gonna be like Wolfenstein where Germany is every land worldwide
@JB_OldVoltBike3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the detailed plans at the start. i will use this!
@Thorr-kl6jl6 ай бұрын
The "Axis Powers" were Germany (including Austria), Italy, Japan, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Croatia, Slovakia, and Thailand. Finland was allied with the Axis, in the war against the Communist dictator Stalin. Other countries, like Denmark, were members of the anti-Communist "Anti-Comintern Pact". By the way, the English language was developed from 5th Century German (Anglo-Saxon), and is thus a Germanic language.
@lI-tm2pn5 ай бұрын
I mean Denmark was under axis control by that point. You can't really say "Denmark" did anything at that point. It was just Germany pulling strings.
@Cowboys7775 ай бұрын
So technically we still do speak a German language lol
@memetkasupovic43215 ай бұрын
Croatia didn't exist as a state but Croatian Ustasha regime. English isn't Germanic language, it is Romano-Germanic language actually. Denmark was German satrapia, Germans simply walked in without any resistance...Post war Europe would lay on Germanic peoples as ruling class, Slavic speaking would be either sterilized or slave labours.
@oliverkelly91643 ай бұрын
@@Cowboys777not exactly, the 'German' language. German is specific. A 'Germanic' language just means from the same wider umbrella. Like how French, Spanish, Italian and Romanian all stem from Latin. Modern English is this mix up of Britonic, Germanic (from the Saxons), Norman-French and even elements of old-norse.
@Sleepystories9233 ай бұрын
germanic isn't the same as german, anglos came from denmark, and english is just modern norse, so its more danish then german@@Cowboys777
@charlesmartel8446Күн бұрын
sounds like a dream to me, no mutli cultural hellhole
@Bumbrlik2 күн бұрын
It would be literally wonderful
@josephbingham12556 ай бұрын
Very good presentation. 10:39 "Even those who score in the low ranges." Showing a couch potato watching t.v. and eating popcorn. Clever 🙂
@ArtUniverse5 ай бұрын
1:46 - just a nitpick, but invading through the Caucasus is unrealistic. It's a massive mountain range, a natural barrier that's 1500 km wide, 5 km tall and 150 km thick. You can't just steamroll tank battalions across there like through the Central European plains. Good video overall!
@MoeSzyslak20015 ай бұрын
But you would have a population unfriendly to the russians there, who would be glad to help Germany if they, for example, were offered independence in return.
@effexon5 ай бұрын
im more curious of logistics as that is brutal region in winter and far from berlin. they would need to quickly build fortifications in urals to keep that place.
@wyqtor4 ай бұрын
But you can invade through the coastal Caspian Sea plain of Northern Azerbaijan through Dagestan. The locals living there are Muslim, so they would also presumably be sympathetic to Germany.
@benjaminbritsch17493 ай бұрын
the Nazis almost conquered the caucasus in our timeline - just imagine them attacking from two sides...
@davidbastardo41542 ай бұрын
It is highly unlikely that Hitler would have invaded Spain. Franco was an important ally, and he held the possibility of a British invasion of Spanish Morocco and Portugal in check. There is an extensive bibliography on this subject. Hitler also kept Franco as a means to deter Mussolini's claims over Tangier, not to mention that Himmler made a pilgrimage to Montserrat to find the Holy Grail shortly before the war started. It would make as much sense as them invading their allies in Serbia, Hungary or Rumania.
@zvallid2 ай бұрын
franco did nothing to help axis. mussolini claims on tangeri? where did you find this information? and I think hitler did not care of tangeri. british were barely able to hold axis in lybia, how could they invade morocco and portugal?
@sta11ed15Ай бұрын
@@zvallidthis scenario isn’t realistic either way,a Germany simply did not have the resources to win the war,and America would not be neutral in Europe.Russia could easily hold off Germany,given one more year to prepare and there’s no way Axis can have control of Mediterranean with Britains navy there
@davidbastardo41542 күн бұрын
@@zvallid He did things. He gave them wolfram mines and sent the Blue Division under the command of General Muñoz Grandes, one of the most decorated divisions in the Wehrmacht. Mussolini wanted to take Tanger from France after 1940, but Pétain refused and opposed the Vichy Republic's claims over original French territory. Hitler didn't wish to partake, and tried to appear neutral before both of them. I read it in Manuel Ros Agudo's book La gran tentación, which deals with Franco's foreign policy towards the Axis during the war.
@zvallid2 күн бұрын
@@davidbastardo4154 Indeed i never ear that mussolini wanted Tangeri
@lewtsun3 ай бұрын
A more realistic and interesting alternate timeline. Would love to see a 'Man in the high castle' style TV series based on this. Tell us more about the rivalries between Germany and USA, and what life is like in east Urals soviet union!
@zvallid3 ай бұрын
Yes there will be a kind of sequel
@tk-69676 ай бұрын
Britain wouldn't have fought till 1944 in this alternate reality. Britain never wanted to fight the war in the first place, I reckon we would have thrown out Churchill rather than face the consequences. Also, Hitler liked the British Empire, it would do him no good to disband it.
@andrewhale3375 ай бұрын
… and possibly the Fascists in Britain would have gained control… not to mention the very popular Nazi party in America, and the support of fascists there by nationalist Christian radicals( Father Coughlin comes to mind with his millions of followers on his popular radio show!) with already over 30 congressmen with contact to top NSDAP officials!! … If the US supported Germany, as so many wanted to, the question arises why Japan would attack the US?? they would have probably finished off China and the rest of Indochina. Many of today’s GOP would feel very cozy in this „Brave new World“!
@3chmidt6 ай бұрын
This is probably the most realistic post ww2 3rd Reich victory video which I've seen, and I've seen a few
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh6 ай бұрын
I was saw many, but this version is very strong and realistic. Bravo for the authors!
@jkerman5113Ай бұрын
This is so cool! Thanks for making this video, you've really created something here. Love the portrayal of the hippie movement, I was wondering if that was gonna be covered and it sure was.
@sammiesen8923 ай бұрын
No usury or slave to money?
@volvodude10124 күн бұрын
oy vey shut this comment down
@sammiesen89223 күн бұрын
G t v flyers
@ItsTheSilverSurfer14 күн бұрын
Europe and the european people would have the greatest life imaginable.
@Kelly-pk6kr7 ай бұрын
I really like how you show how every day life would be like not just the political tensions!
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh6 ай бұрын
I agree! That is really good in that video.
@baronvg6 ай бұрын
Can you imagine people in comment sections calling people they disagree with Churchill?! 😂
@odeleon245 ай бұрын
If more people knew about Churchill’s life they most likely would use his name as an insult in this timeline
@SneedFeedAndSeed3 ай бұрын
That guy is literally Churchill.
@ClipsOfVTubers3 ай бұрын
“Calling people they disagree with Hitler” when you guys are *literally* glorifying Hitler. Ok bro 🤡
@Christoph-sd3zi2 ай бұрын
@oxdox2356 you're about as sharp as a marble
@user-wj6dt5bq3w2 ай бұрын
@@odeleon24Common people just obey what they see on television, they have the mental level of a dog.
@jimbo4375Ай бұрын
There would be a good chance it would lead to further conflicts in the following years, the splitting of China for example
@345mrseАй бұрын
The trivia is mind-boggling.
@havable5 ай бұрын
It isn't that whoever wins writes history, its that whoever wins gets the hippies.
@huks93803 ай бұрын
So there is no winning, you can only lose.
@SneedFeedAndSeed3 ай бұрын
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
@mjc82816 ай бұрын
I found the Nuclear warheads section interesting, I think you haven't really considered that one fully. Britain actually had a really advanced nuclear programme prior to the US joining the war and while Ernest Rutherford was from New Zealand he worked all his adult life in the UK. Its also worth thinking of what happened in Germany with their wonder weapons, had the UK been isolated a wonder weapon would have been given much higher priority and even if it hadn't they wouldn't have merged the research in the US to be sure. Also interesting that you didn't want to touch Lehi with a bargepole.... while suggesting Iran and Iraq would be in full revolt. Also agree with other comments about Finland, I often ponder had the war ended with an Axis victory I'm sure a great deal more significance would have been placed into Finland's wartime contribution to the axis war effort, which following the start of the Cold War has been pretty much ignored.
@zvallid6 ай бұрын
finland borders are not exact, it wass an error
@mjc82816 ай бұрын
@@zvallid I mean more that Finland's role in the war wouldn't have been downplayed, ignored as it is in this reality
@AndyGrouch5 ай бұрын
Finland would be much larger in geographic area. It would encompass all of Lake Ladoga and also Murmansk.
@onpointoriginal5 ай бұрын
@@AndyGrouch my thoughts exactly 💯
@jasoncalabrese7164Ай бұрын
Outstanding video, life would be very similar to today, many of our relatives probably would not have left Europe, we must all consider how truly close we were to this outcome, I believe this world we live in now is full of youth who have no values, no direction, and a lot of that comes down to loss of values and integrity of the WW2 generation.
@FollowYourHorizon2 ай бұрын
Bravo! 2 thumbs up, way up!
@zvallid2 ай бұрын
thank you!
@ludendorf18997 ай бұрын
You know Europe is fucked when you watch this video and realize that it represents a far better Europe for Europeans. In our timeline, European Countries help immigrants and foreigners more than their own citizens, in this timeline at least the governments take care of their own and make sure that the general population evolves and gets more intelligent and Europe and most of the world is safeguarded from foreign intervention.
@Syndixal7 ай бұрын
Fact
@amadiohastruck43317 ай бұрын
Except the slavs
@zvallid7 ай бұрын
right
@lemonboy92087 ай бұрын
Bro you living in a made up world
@abdelrahmantarek54397 ай бұрын
@@amadiohastruck4331 eh only really east slavs and serbs the rest are fine
@leonardodegregorio7 ай бұрын
Despite you being really far away from my political views, I can’t hesitate from saying that you’re my favourite channel
@ArbDaNub7 ай бұрын
what is ur view
@JobyDoby7 ай бұрын
where did his political views come into the video?
@leonardodegregorio7 ай бұрын
@@JobyDoby I’ve watched nearly all his videos and by viewing all of them I sort of got an idea
@JobyDoby7 ай бұрын
@@leonardodegregorio i guess all alt history videos will come across as politically biased just because the other political system has won, but thats the whole idea of it really.
@swox36697 ай бұрын
@@JobyDoby He's populist conservative, and is entirely historical on the axis nations (doesn't hate them for made up reasons/emotional appeal)
@horseradish40462 ай бұрын
It's very fortunate that the good guys always win in war, according to the history books.
@zvallid2 ай бұрын
great comment
@rhett318510 күн бұрын
I feel like this kind of sentiment is rather new. It’s basically a soft way of manufacturing consent of the masses who ‘won’ in the past to basically vindicate themselves of all the current wrongdoings and failures that they now wrought now. Anytime I see this kind of line, actually parroted by people who genuinely believe that the allies were the ‘good guys’ I just think of all the shit we have to deal with now, and all of the atrocities that the ‘good guys’ cover up to make themselves look good. I know you the OP don’t believe that, but just my take.
@robertscott82265 күн бұрын
Hip hop would have not taken place but P. Diddy would reign as the king of all East Coast minorities. Suge would run the West Coast .Suge would have his people singing songs dedicated to West Coast Gospel .
@Real-Agent-Meta7 ай бұрын
That's a rather interesting take on alternate history comparable to that of HOI4 mods like the "Thousand Week Reich" and/or "The New Order: Last Days of Europe". Of course a few inaccuracies with their reichkommissariat borders, but that's not important. But still, great "What If" scenario on a topic widely discussed in media
@ivan55956 ай бұрын
As fun as these mods are, they are made by certain individuals who wanted to make them to look as bad as possible.
@genericwhitemale95666 ай бұрын
@@ivan5595 to be fair, there is no way the war could've ended like this. Both the Allies and the Axis said that they would only accept unconditional surrender from the other side. If Britain and The Soviets never capitulated, Germany would've just kept attacking until they did and would've made them a fascist puppet of Germany. There's absolutely no way Hitler would've accepted the Soviets still being around after the war considering how much he hated both Slavs and Communists.
@ivan55956 ай бұрын
@@genericwhitemale9566 I'm saying that the axis is designed to look bad and evil in these mods
@Vagab0nd126 ай бұрын
@@ivan5595Which is absolutely accurate, I mean it wasn't allies that planned and organised mass genocide on "subhumans".
@joserkp15356 ай бұрын
unfortunately history is written by the victors@@ivan5595
@megalodonfilms51486 ай бұрын
I have to say this is pretty accurate to how it would be. Though I disagree about some of the cultural aspects, especially the music and hippie culture in the United States, though that could just be my ignorance on the subject. All in all, great video.
@florinmacarenco75473 ай бұрын
Islam conquered Europa... and without a fight in WW1&2 Europe played herself and just died.
@zvallid3 ай бұрын
probably right
@mykula7805 күн бұрын
The real question is what the world would be like if Germany didn't lose the first World War
@hyperbeast22617 ай бұрын
At least the retirement age would be reachable, unlike now with plans and predictions to go above 70.
@KevinBalch-dt8otАй бұрын
While life expectation is now declining. Which it was starting to do before covid.
@mcboat346719 күн бұрын
Fascists are the first to dismantle workers rights. No minimum wage or retirement in this world
@hank7807 ай бұрын
Thank you for the upload Zvallid. I hope you are doing okay.
@JOECURR14887 ай бұрын
This was his masterpiece.😮
@hank7807 ай бұрын
@@JOECURR1488 agreed
@Soulintent9521 сағат бұрын
The world would be better. And more pure.
@67nairbАй бұрын
11:49 and don't forget to the Japanese, Nazi idealogoy saw them as honorary Aryans. Ribbentrop felt that that way and even convinced Hitler to think on those racial lines.
@JackSardonic7 ай бұрын
Very good. The part about the east European settler hippies was interesting; all very realistic.
@DaliborPerkovic-sw8mh6 ай бұрын
Truth! I was reading something about that! Very realistic story about that!
@stefanschleps8758Ай бұрын
Well done. Well thought out and realistic. All the best.
@CptChampie2 ай бұрын
And everyone would know their rightful place. Sounds great!
@originalsusser6 ай бұрын
A well-done narrative that left few holes. Normally, these types of constructs are, at best fanciful, at worst ridiculous, but yours had many believable elements. I thoroughly enjoyed your take! My main criticism is that the notion of any European country, except Germany, having nukes is unlikely... especially France, who I imagine would continue to be a vassal state with little presence on the world stage
@reborninflames21886 ай бұрын
It was a great idea to include the expanded Mediterranean/ North African campaign.
@sammy-wi8pi6 ай бұрын
Yes, because the narrator inserted real events alongside hypothetical ones and made it seem VERY REAL ❤❤❤❤.....good job .
@Marvin-dg8vj6 ай бұрын
@@reborninflames2188a Mediterranean campaign instead of an attack on the USSR would have been even more believable. There were German voices in favour of this. It would have defeated the British in North Africa , closed the Suez Canal , strengthened Italy and allowed Axis control of oil in Iraq and Iran. Germany and the USSR have divided Europe between them both with nuclear weapons .The US and UK plus other surviving areas of the British empire would be a separate block also with nukes.
@PassportReasons6 ай бұрын
LOL "few"? The fate of Blacks and Africans, more Jews that tried to escape to Palestine, various people deemed insufficiently human by the fascists. Come on. You just pretend the people never existed and you can pretend the holes aren't gaping wide.
@seanmatto22586 ай бұрын
They Had Hans Kammler and Mario Zippermayr’s coal dust bomb.
@NormalChannel957 ай бұрын
Amazing how perspective plays a huge role in this.
@primaitalia65863 ай бұрын
Of course it does. He said it neutrally. Meanwhile the others pretend to be neutral. But actually just spouting Allied propaganda.
@jezzalexander2 ай бұрын
Quick question - is the narration voice-over AI generated? As in the vocals, or is it your actual voice?
@zvallid2 ай бұрын
no it's not my voice. my voice is horrible
@jezzalexander2 ай бұрын
@@zvallid Ahh, cool, thank you for replying - I'd heard the voice on several different channels and was just curious.
@sisilian5092 ай бұрын
how the hell were you able to think of something like this? like its so well made
@zvallid2 ай бұрын
happy you like it!
@MirunaIordachescu5 ай бұрын
I am amazed how accurate is the story including the map. Good job !
@personaltreat54722 ай бұрын
What? How do you even know that? You been in another timeline or something?