What Writers Should Learn From Batman Begins

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7 жыл бұрын

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Christopher Nolan is a master of story structure. With Dunkirk coming out this week, I decided to take a look back at Batman Begins, which has one of the most elegant act structures of any movie I have ever seen.
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@spacecowboy883
@spacecowboy883 7 жыл бұрын
"What's the main theme in Batman Begins?" Me: (Starts humming Batman theme) "Fear" Me: oh
@brianboardwell1986
@brianboardwell1986 7 жыл бұрын
Lol
@MetallicAddict15
@MetallicAddict15 7 жыл бұрын
DUM, dum-du-du-DUM, dum-du-du-DUM, dum-du-du-DUM DUM DUM!
@megumi6499
@megumi6499 6 жыл бұрын
na na na na na na na na na na BATMAN!!
@shawncharron4769
@shawncharron4769 5 жыл бұрын
I was so sure that it was ''justice'' :(
@alexdurazo7404
@alexdurazo7404 5 жыл бұрын
This cracked me up lol
@greg4629
@greg4629 7 жыл бұрын
"the movie is 15 years old" oh that hurt
@CalebRichardsChannel
@CalebRichardsChannel 7 жыл бұрын
it did come out in 2005, so it's only 12 years old... but still!
@HDavis-ce3ur
@HDavis-ce3ur 7 жыл бұрын
I had to pause and calculate cause ...that couldn't be right! 12 years.
@acosma7730
@acosma7730 7 жыл бұрын
someone who can do math. I though t fifteen was hyperbole. :)
@iutopian9322
@iutopian9322 7 жыл бұрын
Nolan's films are for 15 year olds.
@DharavSolanki
@DharavSolanki 7 жыл бұрын
It's just 12 years old. Though, granted, I had just cleared my tenth at the time.
@anubisxelt6895
@anubisxelt6895 5 жыл бұрын
3 Main Themes Batman Begins - Fear Dark Knight - Chaos Rises - Pain
@gandurk
@gandurk 4 жыл бұрын
I would say Begins: fear Dark knight: order and chaos, rules and anarchy Rises: masks
@tripathiashutosh874
@tripathiashutosh874 4 жыл бұрын
@@gandurk the dark knight about Nobel lie watch this video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ms6gna6JltCRe4U.html
@gandurk
@gandurk 4 жыл бұрын
@@tripathiashutosh874 what? Its about a lie about the nobel prize?
@tripathiashutosh874
@tripathiashutosh874 4 жыл бұрын
@@gandurk ?? Watch link video and decide
@gandurk
@gandurk 4 жыл бұрын
@@tripathiashutosh874 no thanks bud. You liking your own comments?
@13jonash
@13jonash 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting how BB did certain aspects better than the Dark Knight and is better than Rises as a whole, yet it is the least talked about out of the trilogy.
@j.t.thomas1859
@j.t.thomas1859 5 жыл бұрын
It's THE best Batman film EVER made. BATMAN BEGINS that is!!
@hunterhunter5906
@hunterhunter5906 5 жыл бұрын
@@j.t.thomas1859 Yes! I loved The Dark Knight but Batman Begins is simply haunting.
@j.t.thomas1859
@j.t.thomas1859 5 жыл бұрын
@@hunterhunter5906 personally I enjoy all 3 films BUT BEGINS is by FAR my favorite.
@KelliHeitstumanTomko
@KelliHeitstumanTomko 5 жыл бұрын
Part of that is because both of the second movies were marked globally recognized tragedies -- The Dark Knight had the death of Heath Ledger, and Rises was marred by the shooting in Colorado. It's not so much the movies that have overshadowed BB, but the events surrounding them.
@j.t.thomas1859
@j.t.thomas1859 5 жыл бұрын
@@KelliHeitstumanTomko Didn't think about it like that. Damn good point.
@thewayfarer8849
@thewayfarer8849 7 жыл бұрын
His brother Jonathan doesn't get enough credit. Memento was a novel he wrote before Chris' film, the man's behind every one of his movies, and Jonathan worked on the Westworld series.
@vaginalarthritis1753
@vaginalarthritis1753 7 жыл бұрын
And also Person Of Interest, that show was way better than it should've bin.
@JustWrite
@JustWrite 7 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Jonathan is brilliant too. Small correction: Memento was a short story. And Chris only got the idea from Jonathan before writing the screenplay. He hadn't read the story itself.
@109Tyler
@109Tyler 7 жыл бұрын
Scytale of Riviera also, he wasn't behind Inception or Dunkirk. But agreed, he doesn't get enough credit..
@hoilet6999
@hoilet6999 7 жыл бұрын
the nolans are damn talented ppl
@l3oeyeof
@l3oeyeof 7 жыл бұрын
I'm almost afraid of Westworld Season 2 because the writing for the first season was so amazing that I'm afraid they will fuck it up hahahahahah
@tickedoffnow
@tickedoffnow 5 жыл бұрын
The Dark Knight Trilogy is a work of Genius
@henrique-3d
@henrique-3d 5 жыл бұрын
@@arthurmorel1943 these 2 morons should never be in the same sentence as Nolan
@willburdbath9273
@willburdbath9273 5 жыл бұрын
yeah but he dark knight rises is definitely the worst one
@kevinw712
@kevinw712 5 жыл бұрын
It is almost certainly still the best single, cohesive take on the Batman character in any medium outside of actual comics, but I can't deny, sitting here some 7 years later, The Dark Knight Rises only gets worse to me with each subsequent viewing. It's ironic this author's intent here is about praising Nolan's structure work in BB, because I think pacing is directly related to structure, and the pacing of TDKR is just a mess. Especially the second half. That aside from the fact that Bruce KEEPS saying "I think there's more to you" about Catwoman solely because the plot needs him to. Taken by itself it makes no sense, she repeatedly screws him over. I suppose it's a testament to how great the first two are that it's considered one of the best trilogies ever.
@somerandomdude5844
@somerandomdude5844 5 жыл бұрын
@@kevinw712 I like the point of repeating "I think theres more to you" to catwoman. It tells us a lot about Bruce/Batman, and its not about Catwoman. Its not about him turning Catwoman into a hero, its about him never having stopped believing in the goodness of people, despite everything he has gone through. Catwoman, prior to being a hero, was a criminal/thief, with an incredible skillset. Bruce was just trying to push her into making the selfless decisions, like he had after he took on the mantle of Batman.
@user-wv3ee2ec4v
@user-wv3ee2ec4v 5 жыл бұрын
I just didn't like the last one. Seemed choppy. 🤷🏽‍♂️
@joeschmoe3665
@joeschmoe3665 6 жыл бұрын
I always liked the lesson dialogue between young vengeful Bruce and Falcone as it showcases Bruce´s misplaced sense of entitlement wanting to stand up against injustice and a crime boss, but really he is a spoiled young man with no sense of the world outside of his sheltered rich bubble and personal loss.
@applejuice5635
@applejuice5635 5 жыл бұрын
John Gunnerek Best scene in the movie. The moment that birthed Bruce's alter ego.
@notbot8830
@notbot8830 4 жыл бұрын
“I could shoot you right here in front of the judge and police force and they wouldn’t do anything. That’s power you can’t buy”
@kunalpradhan6166
@kunalpradhan6166 4 жыл бұрын
@@notbot8830 the power of fear.
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458
@dcmarvelcomicfans9458 4 жыл бұрын
@The Bearded Weirdo coaster freak. Can I have your anti sjw stop bringing your politics into this
@BuddhasMiddleFinger
@BuddhasMiddleFinger 4 жыл бұрын
In Asia in general and East Asia specifically, these kinds of people are simply known as Westerners.
@jakobwulk6159
@jakobwulk6159 5 жыл бұрын
Dark knight would have made 3B if it came out today
@maul5578
@maul5578 5 жыл бұрын
Jakob Wülk if they could make good dc movies marvel wouldn’t stand a chance
@jakobwulk6159
@jakobwulk6159 5 жыл бұрын
@@maul5578 fact
@johncalhoun9444
@johncalhoun9444 5 жыл бұрын
Right? It was the first superhero movie to make a billion before china and other international markets joined the hollywood craze.
@CaptainCre3pzz
@CaptainCre3pzz 5 жыл бұрын
Closer to 2B probably. Only reason Endgame got 2.7B was because of the cinematic universe/franchising surrounding it. If the DCU was just as big, 3B no doubt
@3Rayfire
@3Rayfire 4 жыл бұрын
Here's the twist though, billion dollar superhero movies might not even exist without the Dark Knight Trilogy. Blade not withstanding.
@phantomstrider
@phantomstrider 7 жыл бұрын
There's just something beautiful about Batman Begins. The building from loss and the rebirth of Bruce's resolve. I actually still prefer it over the Dark Knight personally even though Dark Knight is probably the "technically" better film.
@spencermalley10
@spencermalley10 7 жыл бұрын
Perfectly valid opinion, man.
@MrChickennugget360
@MrChickennugget360 7 жыл бұрын
if i were going to compare the two i would say that Dark Knight is built around its villain while Batman Begins is built around its Hero.
@edwinfcapidos
@edwinfcapidos 7 жыл бұрын
I watched Batman Begins before Dark Knight and I like the former more. The story built is just perfect. Dark Knight isn't bad though.
@cloudwalker9572
@cloudwalker9572 6 жыл бұрын
Take out Ledger performance, change it with a good performance not outstanding and the dark knight is half the movie it is. To me dark knight is an average/good film not an amazing one because it’s a one man show in a story of multiple characters.
@marcemarc6516
@marcemarc6516 6 жыл бұрын
PhantomStrider ledger performance doesn't carry the movie. It's a perfectly written and balanced story. Harvey dent/two-face brings just as much to the over all themes as the joker does. Take the joker performance out and trade it with a good actors and the movie would still be great because it's so much more then just one guys good work. It's directed incredibly.. the opening scene in IMAX (before it was the norm) story structures, themes of good and bad not being black or white, reveals that have major payoffs plus actually consequences. It's so much more then just heath ledgers performance and though it was amazing, the movie would still be amazing without it. It's why it's one of the best comic book movies every made and one of my favorite movies of all time
@rachelm.r.1878
@rachelm.r.1878 7 жыл бұрын
I'll not argue against the fact that The Dark Knight is better, but I am so glad that someone is acknowledging just how fantastic this movie is. As a story, I like it more.
@JustWrite
@JustWrite 7 жыл бұрын
Both fantastic films, but Batman Begins doesn't get enough love.
@rachelm.r.1878
@rachelm.r.1878 7 жыл бұрын
Just Write SO true! I love the whole trilogy, but I always go for the first movie if I want to watch just one.
@GladFyr41
@GladFyr41 7 жыл бұрын
I love Heath Ledger in TDK as much as anyone, but I think he's a big reason TDK gets more love. To me BB might be a better overall movie, and if Ledger hadn't given the performance of a lifetime the two might be seen more as equal.
@BoUrnNe26
@BoUrnNe26 7 жыл бұрын
Kaleigh Chamot I agree completely. BB was almost just as long as TDK but because how the story flowed, it was a more complete film imo. I've said this multiple times but the scenes overall in BB felt like they had the correct length individually to where they felt complete and smoothly transitioned into one another. In TDK, it felt like it was 4 whole action scenes or so with a whole bunch of other short scenes thrown in between that just went all over the place. Plus like you said, there was enough of a sci-fi/fantasy element in BB for it to feel like a Batman film. I just wish they had actual Lazarus pits in it. Lol
@myenemysenemy1043
@myenemysenemy1043 6 жыл бұрын
Rachel Rozow I usually turn to Batman Begins if I’m in the mood to watch just one of them - I guess that’s because out of the entire trilogy, it’s the only true self-contained, complete movie. Dark Knight is probably better paced, but the entire film is essentially a central act in a three-part story. And Rises doubly so. Even though all the films can be enjoyed on their own merit, Begins is the only one that - subconsciously, at least - feels whole.
@MachineFuckingHate
@MachineFuckingHate 6 жыл бұрын
The thing that I got from Batman Begins, which I never quite got from many other superhero origin stories in movies, is that it feels like a true, compelling, fulfilling story that didn't need less or more stuff put into it. It feels like... a complete movie, you know. A true, visceral, well-made, well-told movie. For a story that manages to cover up so many plot points, ideas, character arcs, while having tons of action, this film indeed shows that Nolan is one hell of a director. Like Mark Kermode said, Batman Begins feels more like a multi-million dollar art-house movie rather than a blockbuster. Even the third act does serve a purpose and keeps the theme of the movie going and doesn't turn into an action spectacle for the sake of it. Which is what movies like Iron Man or Doctor Strange suffer from. Their buildup of heroes feels more like an obligation to justify action scenes at the end. And I love the fact that this movie doesn't take its audience for granted. It doesn't try to fill the gaps in the story by assuming that you'll fill the gaps yourself. That's what Tim Burton did with his first Batman movie, and it's the reason why people are split on that movie. For someone the lack of context worked. For others, it didn't. I'm in the middle. I had no problems with lack of context for Batman's beginning but the problem with lack of character development for Batman. And the same thing happed with Batman v Superman. I didn't mind the movie. I like Zack Snyder, but... Unlike Tim Burton's Batman, DCEU's Batman just doesn't work as a character with limited context, because that vague context of the character that we got is essential to explaining why this version of Batman is the way he is. All we can do to justify why the character the way he is is by assuming that he's either angry because Robin died, or because he just got old and tired, or because some other convoluted reason for his vague motives. Batman Begins shows us that showing what the character is going through is more fulfilling than hinting what character is going through.
@desmondhodges9710
@desmondhodges9710 5 жыл бұрын
You can't compare Nolans run on Batman to any other DCU or superhero film. This is why. When Nolan made this film he wanted to but Batman in the most realistic setting as possible. Think about it. This Batman didn't fight super powered villains. He fought tactical Psychos who were basically terrorist
@toddgarver5397
@toddgarver5397 5 жыл бұрын
In BvS Bruce tells the audience his motivation, "Twenty years of crime fighting in Gotham, how many good guys are left? How many stayed that way?" Robin was murdered and he is fighting an up hill battle while he is getting older. He needed to resort to more extreme tactics. I like to imagine that he killed the Joker before the start of the film.
@vinayseth1114
@vinayseth1114 5 жыл бұрын
What about the lack of an origin story for Joker in the second film then?
@hiddeneagle1408
@hiddeneagle1408 5 жыл бұрын
completely agree
@117Awesome
@117Awesome 5 жыл бұрын
@@toddgarver5397 There is 0 context for that in the film. The casual movie goer knows nothing about Batman besides the fact that he fights crime and his parents were killed when he was a child. They wont put all these pieces together just to make the movie make sense because that's not their job it's the film makers job. We had 0 reason to care about this Batman because we had no idea who he is or what he really stands for.
@jscottupton
@jscottupton 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so old I was reading Batman comics in the 50's. Batman Begins was a VERY important film for me. Not only was it about BATMAN but it was done in a near-perfect fashion. Perfect music. Near perfect acting. It had a big enough budget to make everything look utterly believable. In short, it was the movie I had waited for my whole, long life.
@manhphan7027
@manhphan7027 9 ай бұрын
Glad to know that man
@c.b.5535
@c.b.5535 7 жыл бұрын
Finally! Someone else likes Batman Begins.......people online ever talk about the Dark Knight, but this one is my favorite
@galactic85
@galactic85 7 жыл бұрын
Begins is my favorite too. I love it way more than the Dark Knight. Every time someone mentions the Dark Knight it seems like the only explanation they can give as to why it's "good" is that Heath Ledger is great as the Joker.
@Duiker36
@Duiker36 7 жыл бұрын
I love Begins, but I still think TDK is better. I don't think it takes anything away from Begins that it has a sequel that could outshine it. It *is* good to have someone talk about Begins properly, though.
@alangeorge5592
@alangeorge5592 7 жыл бұрын
Batman Begins Is one of the best superhero movie ever made and The Dark Knight is the best superhero film ever made.
@CavemanJesus4Life
@CavemanJesus4Life 7 жыл бұрын
I love Batman Begins, this guy is spot on about the story being amazing. The Story does continue in the Dark Knight, only difference is the Joker & Harvey Dent are the main ideal focused characters with Batman just being Batman in the film. Both their motivations drive that film.
@varunemani
@varunemani 7 жыл бұрын
With Cristian Bail (pun intended) SOOO WRONGLY cast ..And BLAH.. BLAH.. BLAH...!!
@antediluvian99
@antediluvian99 7 жыл бұрын
You never mentioned the fourth and most notorious villain in the film - Shaky Cam.
@UnfamiliarIntimacy
@UnfamiliarIntimacy 5 жыл бұрын
Chandler Gerald Shaky cam isn't really a problem in these types of movies because it was meant to convey a sense of fear. You have to remember in that scene it was meant to illustrate what was going on in the criminals point of view, and they had no idea what that 'big black monster thing' that dropped on them actually was.
@TryanaTheGoober
@TryanaTheGoober 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Sadly true
@jamesrelich8210
@jamesrelich8210 5 жыл бұрын
@@UnfamiliarIntimacy Shaky cam never works to convey anything to me except that I'm watching a movie. It doesn't convey fear, chaos, or anxiety, it just reminds me that someone is holding a camera and that everything is fake. The only time it works is in a found footage movie, because the person holding the camera is part of the story. I get what they're trying to accomplish, but there are better ways to do it.
@somerandomdude5844
@somerandomdude5844 5 жыл бұрын
@@jamesrelich8210 Well thats you, buddy.
@jamesrelich8210
@jamesrelich8210 5 жыл бұрын
@@somerandomdude5844 Well, yeah. I'm the one who wrote the comment. Who else would it be?
@CanadianHoneybadger
@CanadianHoneybadger 5 жыл бұрын
"Whats the main theme of Batman Begins?" "JUSTICE!" "Fear." "Oh yeah, that too I guess..."
@butcherjsy8
@butcherjsy8 4 жыл бұрын
I said justice as well...
@applepie1272
@applepie1272 2 жыл бұрын
I start to notice... They're many fucking themes
@jessemockler616
@jessemockler616 2 жыл бұрын
Purple flower gas
@alexanderwolf7514
@alexanderwolf7514 4 жыл бұрын
When you showed that 2x2 graphic about the four motivations I was like "damn this movie is absolutely genius". This is the reason I watch this kind of videos, good job.
@Phil-du7zc
@Phil-du7zc 4 жыл бұрын
Alexander Wolf batman is depicted as a criminal there and falcone as a civilian is that a mistske
@Fami_Salami
@Fami_Salami 4 жыл бұрын
@@Phil-du7zc its more like vs criminals and vs civilians
@Phil-du7zc
@Phil-du7zc 4 жыл бұрын
Fami Salami thanks
@sunnywoo4474
@sunnywoo4474 3 жыл бұрын
That"s so true When I was watching the movie, I thought those four ppl are different in a certain way but I just cannot explain what the difference is via 2x2 matrix It might be the traditional superhero movies that had implanted an idea into my mind that there's only a form of binary opposition (or right and wrong; moral and immoral) The multidimensional analysis makes me realise why this movie was so impressive to me at first
@sebastiangomezletelier1367
@sebastiangomezletelier1367 7 жыл бұрын
Solid Screenplay > Profound sounding Ideas
@JustWrite
@JustWrite 7 жыл бұрын
Great summary!
@sebastiangomezletelier1367
@sebastiangomezletelier1367 7 жыл бұрын
?
@dallindunn1186
@dallindunn1186 7 жыл бұрын
what
@CerberusGX
@CerberusGX 7 жыл бұрын
Don't do cocaine, kids
@revanthreddy3266
@revanthreddy3266 7 жыл бұрын
HAVE CHILDREN - species movie?
@atthecore4560
@atthecore4560 4 жыл бұрын
Because of the structure of Batman: Begins, no one is going to touch a Batman origin story as a movie until after the film has been out for over 20 years. It's so perfectly put together that it's not easily forgotten. That puts a huge damper on living up to the standard it set. It's not something you want to compete with as a writer or director. Btw; great analysis!
@dbzrulz100
@dbzrulz100 4 жыл бұрын
AT THE CORE that’s only 2024
@atthecore4560
@atthecore4560 4 жыл бұрын
@@dbzrulz100 Yeah, and have we had one since then? The answer is no.
@atthecore4560
@atthecore4560 4 жыл бұрын
@@lifelikelu Indeed. As I predicted, 20 years later lol.
@BurstShotzX
@BurstShotzX 5 жыл бұрын
My Favorite scene is still Bruce and Alfred in the hallway talking about He burnt that letter. Intense moment in The Dark Knight series.
@bleeneo101
@bleeneo101 5 жыл бұрын
"I never got the chance to thank you." 🦇- And you'll never have to 🦇
@dylanthejoel2331
@dylanthejoel2331 7 жыл бұрын
Another (possibly better?) counterpoint to the structure of Batman Begins might be Spiderman 3. The biggest problem with that movie (by most people's standards) was that it had far too many villains. And yet, Batman Begins managed to juggle the same number of bad guys without anyone batting an eye. Nobody complains that Batman Begins has too many villains, even though it has 3! This is what's always puzzled me about Nolan's Batman, but I think your essay explains this phenomenon beautifully. S3 felt like it had too many villains because each bad guy explored a different theme at overlapping times. In BB, each villain explores the same theme at separate times, in a clear linear fashion. There's a progression, or at least a feeling of progression, to the theme of fear in BB due to its 4 act structure. S3 lacks that feeling of progression and thus lacks any clear payoff. Great essay, as always. Leaves me wanting to go write. 😃
@JustWrite
@JustWrite 7 жыл бұрын
Yup! It's not the number of villains, but how they're incorporated into the story (to an extent!)
@CavemanJesus4Life
@CavemanJesus4Life 7 жыл бұрын
Each villain was used perfectly for each act. Don Falcone was used to push Bruce Wayne to seek out Justice by becoming a criminal, and living in their world leading him to Ra's al'Ghul. At the end of Act 2 he catches Falcone, but finds someone else is behind it. Scarecrow was used a the frontal focused villain needed to fight Batman. You think he's the guy in charge, but really is the mercenary, or hired gun. Ra's al'Ghul was the Big reveal villain pulling the strings. The difference between Batman Begins and Spider-Man 3, was that the villains were used properly within the structure of the story. Having Harry Osborne as the villain in the beginning was a good choice, and having him turn hero at the end was also a good choice, it was just the story was wrong one to tell. Spider-Man 2 did it brilliantly with Doc Oc. It should've stayed with just Venom, seeing that Sandman wasn't really a villain. He had a more moral motives for what he was doing. He was trying to save his daughters life. So really he wasn't a villain either.
@inevitabledeath
@inevitabledeath 7 жыл бұрын
Sam Raimi did have a central theme in mind with Spider-man 3. But he couldn't explore it due to studio interference. This theme was of revenge & forgiveness. Harry Osborne struggling to take revenge on peter. Peter facing the same dilemma with sandman. Realising that he was his Uncle's killer. In the end, there's the scene where peter forgives sandman. And harry sacrifices himself for peter. Which supports this theory.
@GlareBoxTV
@GlareBoxTV 7 жыл бұрын
The Amazing Spiderman 2 also struggled juggling 3 villains as the film couldn't decide whose story was more interesting to tell - Electro's or Harry's (Rhino was shoved to the end of the movie).
@PrimeTime__
@PrimeTime__ 7 жыл бұрын
Nick Wilkinson those were issues too but as u said, bad writing. A story doesnt have to be "complicated" but not developing characters within the story will always lead to a bad film
@christianpaystrup4427
@christianpaystrup4427 7 жыл бұрын
Both Christopher Nolan and his brother are fantastic screenwriters, and I've been blown away by his films since I saw Batman Begins.
@MrQuinceJam
@MrQuinceJam 5 жыл бұрын
Batman Begins is conceptually and stylistically a classic in the neo-noir genre. Excluding the obvious omission of a femme fatale, it has almost all of the thematic and stylistic conventions of a noir, which is not something that can be said of TDK and TDKR. This alone is remarkable, because it is easily the most overlooked of the three. The very slight Dutch tilt when Bruce picks the blue flower with the non-diegetic sound in the background, the shot of pre-depression era Gotham’s skyline that is a mixture of modern and German expressionist architecture (very Metropolis 1927), the flashback of the anonymous mourners underneath the black umbrellas at the funeral, the chiaroscuro lighting that is used in the shot of Bruce’s face when being mentored by Ra’s al Ghul during the latter’s explanation of vengeance, the mise-en-scène in the interior of Falcone’s bar during his speech to a vulnerable Bruce of “the ugly side of life” (very Force of Evil 1948); just a few of the moments that mean so much more than what’s on the surface, and all of them in the first half an hour of the movie. I love its substance and integrity. With it, Nolan gives us something honest; a history lesson on noir cinema, not to mention its emotional resonance. I could go on, but great analysis of this underrated masterpiece.
@vinayseth1114
@vinayseth1114 5 жыл бұрын
'just a few moments that mean so much more than what's on the surface'- could you elaborate please?
@cj2375
@cj2375 4 жыл бұрын
@@vinayseth1114 What I meant was that the moments work like illustrations of noir film. As a whole, they suggest that Nolan knows this genre, as the film is like a history lesson into pre-noir, film noir and neo-noir, in all of their features and subtleties.
@MrTimeless101
@MrTimeless101 4 жыл бұрын
Batman Begins is hands down the best superhero film of the last 25 years. The production, directing, acting, writing, pace, tone, soundtrack all just masterful. I never get tired of watching it.
@buckybarnes2026
@buckybarnes2026 7 жыл бұрын
i discovered you yesterday, and I can't stop watching ! thank you for your quality videos, good sir.
@JustWrite
@JustWrite 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you, kind gentleman!
@slamsaad1
@slamsaad1 7 жыл бұрын
Bucky Barnes so true
@Dkyj
@Dkyj 7 жыл бұрын
Longing Rusted Daybreak Furnace Nine Benign Homecoming One Freight Car
@reng935
@reng935 7 жыл бұрын
True.
@nassorm5634
@nassorm5634 7 жыл бұрын
i found his channel while searching for "why the last airbender movie was bad" and he just explains it so well. since then i've kept watching more of his videos.
@leonisstudios3219
@leonisstudios3219 7 жыл бұрын
Isn't it actually 12 years old? It came out in 2005.
@jobiggle4039
@jobiggle4039 7 жыл бұрын
You are correct sir.
@JustWrite
@JustWrite 7 жыл бұрын
Good thing this isn't a math channel. :| Thanks for the correction!
@leonisstudios3219
@leonisstudios3219 7 жыл бұрын
It's not a big deal to be honest, errors like these happen sometimes. By the way, I just wanted to say that this is really great content. I learned some interesting things from this video that I never knew.
@mackrac
@mackrac 7 жыл бұрын
*Just Write* hey, at least it'll be right in 2020
@Spreadshit101
@Spreadshit101 7 жыл бұрын
It's actually came out in 2004. So yeah, it's 13 years old
@TheHylden
@TheHylden 4 жыл бұрын
Another amazing aspect with the writing, especially in this day and age, is how tight the screenplays are in Nolan's Batman trilogy. They can be dark, they can have heavy themes, yet not one, not even the smallest, curse word is said by any character. There might be one in Rises, but I don't recall one. Yet the dialogue all feels natural.
@therealarien
@therealarien 5 жыл бұрын
It's such a damn good film. Good job on articulating at least partly why it just "feels" so good. It just flows so well and is very satisfying. It's my favourite superhero movie for sure
@Alpha-bt9bh
@Alpha-bt9bh 5 жыл бұрын
Arien Van Stralen I’ll go as far as saying it’s my favorite movie of all time, it’s such an amazing movie
@acnbk
@acnbk 7 жыл бұрын
The majority of Nolan's films are structured with four acts, probably influenced by Kurosawa
@taylormurphy2840
@taylormurphy2840 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Lou.
@MarcillaSmith
@MarcillaSmith 5 жыл бұрын
Good catch! In the history of film, Kurosawa is a pretty big guy
@user-pp2kn1jq7s
@user-pp2kn1jq7s 5 жыл бұрын
@@MarcillaSmith For you
@lhd23
@lhd23 5 жыл бұрын
@@user-pp2kn1jq7s You do know that was the guy whose films inspired directors like George Lucas and Francis Ford Copolla, his movies inspired movies like Star Wars and The Magnificent Seven, and even some famous Westerns by Clint Eastwood, so I would say he is quite important.
@user-pp2kn1jq7s
@user-pp2kn1jq7s 5 жыл бұрын
@@lhd23 Dude i know about him i was just quoting Bane from Dark Knight Rises..you know..4 U m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rZ-nnJOUtdi5ZIk.html 😁
@betobenavides4868
@betobenavides4868 5 жыл бұрын
This not only inspired me to add an important plot point to my screenplay but it also motivated to revise and continue writing my screenplay. I seriously can't thank you enough.
@RealCocaCola
@RealCocaCola 5 жыл бұрын
"It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me."
@jameswhitley4101
@jameswhitley4101 7 жыл бұрын
0:55 _YES_ These are my thoughts exactly (about Batman v. Superman). They were trying so hard to explore some brilliant and awesome questions and ideas, but didn't understand how to do it properly.
@fakhrirhizadi5585
@fakhrirhizadi5585 7 жыл бұрын
please keep creating content man. out of all of the "movie analyzed" videos, yours are the best. your explanation is clear and simple yet it reveals so much. Please keep creating.
@JustWrite
@JustWrite 7 жыл бұрын
Will do!
@olgunyolcinar3969
@olgunyolcinar3969 7 жыл бұрын
Fakhri Rhizadi amen to that..amazing channel
@felipemarsal2899
@felipemarsal2899 7 жыл бұрын
every frame a painting is also quite good. I suggest you check him out also 👍
@TheNightshotBR
@TheNightshotBR 4 жыл бұрын
I have the soundtrack on my phone and listen to it almost every day. Masterpiece.
@thomascatty379
@thomascatty379 4 жыл бұрын
Arlindo Melo same, amazing soundtrack, one of my favorite of all-time 🤝
@ala-lash3710
@ala-lash3710 4 жыл бұрын
"The movie is fifteen years old" /flashbacks to watching it in gym before my eighth grade Halloween dance lmao reality time check 😱😂 Edit: /realizes this video is almost three years old 😱😵
@SaberRexZealot
@SaberRexZealot 4 жыл бұрын
You can relax. This movie was actually 12 years old when this video released. It’s 15 now. He got it wrong.
@Equinox1066
@Equinox1066 3 жыл бұрын
@@SaberRexZealot nah, he didn't get it wrong, he was just talking to us people watching it three years later.
@chinuaalibatya7345
@chinuaalibatya7345 3 жыл бұрын
Hes a time traveler
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421
@isaywhateveriwantandyougot7421 3 жыл бұрын
Except he was wrong, it was 15 years when you posted this comment
@widggman
@widggman 5 жыл бұрын
"Intimidation games" was the working title for "Batman Begins", I always felt like it could have been a good title for that movies in some ways. And with "fear" being the theme, and intimidation being a way to put fear in people, which is what all the four corner characters do in that movies in their own ways.
@rajathyagaraj1061
@rajathyagaraj1061 5 жыл бұрын
It would've been awesome if it was called "Fear The Batman" sure its cheesy but it sounds cool
@mankuqhapaqii4798
@mankuqhapaqii4798 3 жыл бұрын
Fear games
@HxH2011DRA
@HxH2011DRA 7 жыл бұрын
That 4 corners thing is really interesting! I'm look out for it more
@jameswhitley4101
@jameswhitley4101 7 жыл бұрын
My reaction as writer was to immediately try to implement it into my own work.
@Adrian-yi8fl
@Adrian-yi8fl 5 жыл бұрын
John truly is a genius. You should buy his book.
@Buenomars
@Buenomars 7 жыл бұрын
Movie was released 12 years ago, but was planned, written, produced, etc. all for 3 years prior. In fact, Warner Brothers rejected Joss Whedon's pitch in December 2002 and hired Chris Nolan in January 2003. So, yeah, it's not totally wrong to say the film is around 15 years old, just that it was released 12 years ago. Still, I must admit all this doesn't come to mind immediately when one says the film is 15 years old. Cheers.
@chin5983
@chin5983 5 жыл бұрын
thank you
@CabezasDePescado
@CabezasDePescado 5 жыл бұрын
whedon is a hack
@yanhanlu9559
@yanhanlu9559 5 жыл бұрын
O horror! Horror! To think the director could have been Whedon...
@117Awesome
@117Awesome 5 жыл бұрын
@@CabezasDePescado Whedon is an accomplished director that has written many comics himself. Easy to hate from a youtube comment section when you haven't accomplished anything close to what he has in the field you criticize him in.
@CelestialDraconis
@CelestialDraconis 5 жыл бұрын
@@117Awesome You don't have to be accomplished in the field to criticize someone. Otherwise, very few criticism would exist in this world and progress would be slow. Also, it's easy to claim "Whedon is an accomplished director" in a youtube comment section, but make such claims without reasoning to back up said claim in real life? You're bound to get laughed at like the clown you are. Just food for thought, mate. Cheers.
@simonpaulchristian3100
@simonpaulchristian3100 4 жыл бұрын
As it turned out in the end, the trilogy was structured in a perfect 3 way structure. 🤯 What a legend. Nolan!! 🙌🏻
@Austinator0630
@Austinator0630 5 жыл бұрын
It was pretty obvious that Christopher Nolan was doing the right thing when he rebooted the caped crusader with Batman Begins.
@StudMacher96
@StudMacher96 2 жыл бұрын
Best Batman story. That’s what always keeps it rewatch able. And the flow of it. Nothing can beat it.
@Jefnam
@Jefnam 7 жыл бұрын
Batman Begins is a great alternative to Batman v. Superman, but I hope DC keeps fixing there mistakes like they did with Wonder Woman. Great video :D
@solaceboy
@solaceboy 7 жыл бұрын
Jason Friend I think DC's movies might pick up now. After being hired by the WB, Geoff Johns, help write Wonder Woman. He should have started the DCEU without the dark New52 garbage.
@ThoughtGaze
@ThoughtGaze 7 жыл бұрын
yeah they should keep fixing their movies by making them more simplistic, more formulaic, more predictable. you're so right jason friend.
@thenewyoutuber4798
@thenewyoutuber4798 7 жыл бұрын
ThoughtGaze I don't see the DCEU every being formulaic or episodic because if you look at the characters individually Batman, Superman, The Flash, Aquaman, Wonder Woman, Cyborg, Shazam, and Green Lantern each have there own grand mythologies. Each character has his own corner of the universe and are pretty unrelated to the others characters for the most part.
@Jefnam
@Jefnam 7 жыл бұрын
I never said they had to be cookie cutter similar, I said they gave Wonder Women more life and quality that was seen as better then the previous 2-3 movies
@trevordavis6830
@trevordavis6830 7 жыл бұрын
ThoughtGaze It's a whole lot better than taking a piss on beloved characters/stories, making everything super "dark" and "edgy", and stuffing too many characters and stories into one film.
@Ramenb0ssRamenmofo
@Ramenb0ssRamenmofo 4 жыл бұрын
10 years later and im still learning new things about this movie
@houston-coley
@houston-coley 7 жыл бұрын
Loved this video, man! Your channel is growing fast and you really deserve it.
@Cutshort
@Cutshort 7 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is a genuinely really well made video. Can't wait to see more!
@JustWrite
@JustWrite 7 жыл бұрын
Awesome to hear you enjoyed it! There are more videos on the way!
@FirstLast-cf4mi
@FirstLast-cf4mi 5 жыл бұрын
"It's not who I am underneath, but what I do that defines me." - Batman - White Male Cisgender.
@matthagen67
@matthagen67 5 жыл бұрын
This was so well-spent 8 minutes!! A really insightful video.
@aasirthegr8
@aasirthegr8 5 жыл бұрын
This is honestly exactly the type of content I want to see when I open up KZfaq. To people who aren’t in to movies this seems a little much but really it’s amazing bc there is a discussion about one of my favorite movies that I actually learn from. Thanks so much for this type of content! (Also I love the way this video was structured too. It wasn’t boring for a single second!)
@robinsonsonic
@robinsonsonic 6 жыл бұрын
Found this video in my suggested feed and I'm so glad that I clicked on it. Your videos so far have helped me gain a greater depth of knowledge for my own writing purposes and have taught me act structure, character development, and a few other things. Definitely subbed! Keep up the great work!
@JacobMcAllister
@JacobMcAllister 7 жыл бұрын
Nolan could have made an oscar worthy BVS but instead...
@isorozco511
@isorozco511 7 жыл бұрын
Josh nolan is hard to get if youre a snyder groupie, all fight scenes, no plot.
@KookiesNolly
@KookiesNolly 6 жыл бұрын
Jacob McAllister zack Snyder is Michael Bay pretending to be Nolan.
@KookiesNolly
@KookiesNolly 6 жыл бұрын
Josh the DCEU doesn't need story telling, it needs action? Are you Snyder? Because that's the kind of retarded shit that he would say and even put on screen with no sense of remorse. The reason why the DCEU has been failing so far is because they focused more on Action than story telling. When they finally understood that story telling is important they pulled out one decent movie out of their ass: Wonder Woman. Yes it's just decent! It's obvious that in comparison with what preceded it, it looks like a master piece but it's not. It's basic and even cliché and predictable but it works because it has some good Story telling. Movies NEED good story telling, because MOVIES TELL STORIES. No matter how "intelligent" your ideas are, if they aren't clearly explained then they aren't even clear in your head and you should shut up and think again. Do know why kids prefer any Disney animated movie over let's say the minions? Because of story telling! Even if you want to make movies for kids, it's not an excuse to throw random shit on the screen with no structure because even a Jellyfish would find it annoying and boring, and they don't have brains!
@NelsonStJames
@NelsonStJames 6 жыл бұрын
Nolan, has said all he wanted to say on Batman, and we fans of comic book films thank him for his contribution. He literally resurrected a dead franchise. Now he wants to do other things, and I can't wait to see what he has for movie goers. If DC screws up, it's on them.
@KookiesNolly
@KookiesNolly 6 жыл бұрын
Josh Jesus fucking Christ! Your last sentence literally blew my mind. I don’t even know what to say. If you really think a movie doesn’t need story telling, you either don’t know what story telling is, or you are a jellyfish.
@TheDorkKnight727
@TheDorkKnight727 5 жыл бұрын
How did I just find you? My life basically revolves around Batman. Thank you for this. Your videos are addicting ❤️
@Rumlutha
@Rumlutha 6 жыл бұрын
Very informative and i would love to visit again and again.
@SeanRing
@SeanRing 6 жыл бұрын
Great, great content and delivery. Thank you!
@reneiloe_m
@reneiloe_m 7 жыл бұрын
a batman film which is perfect in every aspect is Batman :Mask of the phantasm
@b.lloydreese2030
@b.lloydreese2030 7 жыл бұрын
Reneiloé finally someone else agrees
@brianboardwell1986
@brianboardwell1986 7 жыл бұрын
It's supposed to come out on blu ray this month which I'm super excited for, but I don't know when and it's frustrating.
@justalonelyblobfish8440
@justalonelyblobfish8440 6 жыл бұрын
Reneiloé YES!
@NelsonStJames
@NelsonStJames 6 жыл бұрын
Animation rarely gets any respect.
@Pazuzu4All
@Pazuzu4All 6 жыл бұрын
I don't think another movie has perfectly captured what the average modern Batman story is supposed to be like.
@brandonthomas3187
@brandonthomas3187 5 жыл бұрын
He’s literally one of my favorite directors and screenplay writers!
@burtmacklin1880
@burtmacklin1880 2 жыл бұрын
I revisit this video every so often, great analysis. Makes me want to pick up The Anatomy of Storytelling.
@write2pras84
@write2pras84 4 жыл бұрын
The quadrants you made @4:40 is brilliant!
@PeterSodhi
@PeterSodhi 4 жыл бұрын
This is an absolutely outstanding KZfaq video.
@Knux999
@Knux999 7 жыл бұрын
Wow. This was very impressive. I'd certainly like to see more of these videos. Would you ever consider looking into The Count of Monte Cristo? Obviously the classic 'Revenge vs Justice' story; and there are also a lot of different versions which have their own spin. I'd be very interested to hear your analysis and opinions. Thanks for the video. Have a great day :)
@JustWrite
@JustWrite 7 жыл бұрын
The Count of Monte Cristo might be my favourite novel, so I'm absolutely going to talk about it at some point on this channel. Thanks for the recommendation either way!
@jonathanbiamdecarvalhosouz3767
@jonathanbiamdecarvalhosouz3767 7 жыл бұрын
I just arrived in your channel and i'm amused. Would be so good a explanation about The Count of Monte Cristo, and it's adaptations :D
@CavemanJesus4Life
@CavemanJesus4Life 7 жыл бұрын
Henry Cavill played the son in Count of Monte Cristo
@jonathancampbell5231
@jonathancampbell5231 5 жыл бұрын
Bruce Wayne is pretty much based on the Count of Monte Cristo archetypally anyway- young man is a victim of a terrible injustice, disappears for years then comes back rich, trained, hiding secrets and bent on revenge, but risks his vengeance going too far? Which one am I talking about here?
@tajhaw348
@tajhaw348 7 жыл бұрын
your channel is incredible. your content is always so rich and well thought out it's really refreshing to see something so lovely.
@andrews9615
@andrews9615 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! I loved it. Super great breakdown of a specific story structure!
@giovanimans4ni
@giovanimans4ni 7 жыл бұрын
Talk about Interstellar !
@TylerDietz
@TylerDietz 7 жыл бұрын
Giovani Cygnus and inception. It would be very interesting to here his perspective on both
@TylerDietz
@TylerDietz 7 жыл бұрын
Giovani Cygnus and inception. It would be very interesting to here his perspective on both
@KookiesNolly
@KookiesNolly 6 жыл бұрын
Giovani Cygnus wow you are giving orders now? At least be polite
@miguelpereira9859
@miguelpereira9859 6 жыл бұрын
There is nothing to talk about Interstellar's script.
@nkanyisoinnocentkhwane3752
@nkanyisoinnocentkhwane3752 7 жыл бұрын
*I really like your new branding & videos focus on writing techniques*
@JustWrite
@JustWrite 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MattoUchiha
@MattoUchiha 5 жыл бұрын
This just randomly showed up in my recommended videos but I'm glad it did! Great video!
@xlrouge
@xlrouge 7 жыл бұрын
Great videos keep them coming man!!!!!
@motor4X4kombat
@motor4X4kombat 7 жыл бұрын
nolan: subtance over style snyder: style over subtance
@Gloria_Cook
@Gloria_Cook 7 жыл бұрын
motor4X4kombat I think you aren't giving the Nolan Films' cinematography because they're gorgeous. They don't rely on flashy, Gothic style but they definitely have a strong sense of style it's just more realistic
@thenewyoutuber4798
@thenewyoutuber4798 7 жыл бұрын
Well Man of Steel is a nice balance of Style and Substance but that's the only film from Snyder's arsenal that's has done such a thing..
@ThoughtGaze
@ThoughtGaze 7 жыл бұрын
wrong. i know this idea may be beyond you but for snyder, style is substance. they are not mutually exclusive.yet for nolan fanboys like yourself, you enjoy pretense over honest storytelling.
@ThoughtGaze
@ThoughtGaze 7 жыл бұрын
you probably havent even seen his other films you dolt.
@thenewyoutuber4798
@thenewyoutuber4798 7 жыл бұрын
ThoughtGaze Have you seen SUCKER PUNCH. That films was nothing more than style.. And I'm in no way a Nolan fanboy kid. I actually like Snyder films better.
@Rikku147
@Rikku147 7 жыл бұрын
Huh. Now that I think about it I can name a few movies and books that are interested in mentioning some intriguing themes/concepts, but they never actually address or develop them. They're just... Mentioned. I've heard Show Don't Tell all the time, but the story structure is one of the best ways to explain it. And while I was very very forgiving of Batman V Superman, but not knowing how to properly develop themes is sadly a staple of Zack Snyder, I feel. I'm super forgiving of him as a director too but his flaws as a filmmaker are a bit hard to overlook. Great video!
@FiveironFlores
@FiveironFlores 7 жыл бұрын
great video! I love how you connected this video to the 4 corner principle, had never heard of that.
@MERF2021
@MERF2021 4 жыл бұрын
Dude! That was a great video! Thank you for making it!
@poeticnation6251
@poeticnation6251 5 жыл бұрын
Great video - Profound, intelligent, intriguing! I just subscribed.
@77777Spooky
@77777Spooky 7 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant. Thank you very much.
@JustWrite
@JustWrite 7 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@goranmilic442
@goranmilic442 5 жыл бұрын
@@JustWrite IMO, 4 characters in BvS had an interesting mixture of shared or conflicted motives. Senator is the only one who believes in rule of law. Luthor is the only bad guy. Superman is, obviously, only one who isn't against aliens/immigrants. Batman is the only one whose acts are not publicly viewed. In Batman Begins, Batman's ideology survives. In BvS it's much more interesting, because all 4 characters are partly wrong and partly right. Batman and Superman are good guys because they realize they are mistaken. In today's world with many ideologies collide, that is a good reminder that none of us can be always right. That's about motives, too bad BvS had, as you well said, poor story structure.
@juliarosetwamley
@juliarosetwamley 4 жыл бұрын
This was incredibly insightful and engaging thank you 😊 🙏
@gmasterff97
@gmasterff97 6 жыл бұрын
Just the way you explained the different Acts helped me understand what it even was considering my teacher hadnt explained it very thoroughly
@Thedarkside02
@Thedarkside02 7 жыл бұрын
I don't necessarily believe that argument for BvS. The theme is about power and consequence. Finch believes that having power means you can indeed be good, Lex believes that having power means you cannot be good, Bruce believes that being a hero is not possible without being aggressive, and finally Superman believes that being a hero is possible without being aggressive. What they and we all come to find out is that there are always consequences regardless of how you fall in on the morality spectrum. Whether you are a superhuman or are a regular human, it's what you use those abilities to do that defines you and you better believe that you need to learn to live with those consequences.
@HeyIntegrity
@HeyIntegrity 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@theTruthLifeNWay
@theTruthLifeNWay 4 жыл бұрын
Best of the Trilogy by a country mile
@nbbrickstudios7394
@nbbrickstudios7394 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing video essay. Very inspirational!
@elixanova
@elixanova 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing out the strengths of this film, it helped me step back up during the hardest time of my life and I've never been able to pinpoint for people exactly what about it is so inspiring
@JoshuaFagan
@JoshuaFagan 7 жыл бұрын
Anyone else get a Dunkirk advertisement before this video?
@MrChickennugget360
@MrChickennugget360 7 жыл бұрын
Times Running OUt..
@machr293
@machr293 5 жыл бұрын
"...and you know what to do" in the end, finally a youtuber who doesn't feel the need to tutorial people on how to subscribe!
@literaryartist1
@literaryartist1 5 жыл бұрын
This video is packed with value. Learned a great deal. Thanks.
@Rodrigo-rx4zr
@Rodrigo-rx4zr 6 жыл бұрын
I love this kind of video essay bro! Keep doing it please
@osiancoleman8447
@osiancoleman8447 6 жыл бұрын
So fear should be used wisely what a gd message just realised that’s the hole message of the film 🎥.
@PaulR94
@PaulR94 7 жыл бұрын
Could you do the same with The Dark Knight?? Especially the motivations/targets thing! Thank you! :)
@guyclykos
@guyclykos 7 жыл бұрын
I've just discovered you recently while trying to find writing tips. I was not disappointed. Been binge watching your videos while I write. It's great for cooking up ideas. Thanks. :D
@ThreeYsMenMedia3YMM
@ThreeYsMenMedia3YMM 5 жыл бұрын
Love these videos. Always makes me think of my own writing and how to tell stories. Thanks!
@givethanks9850
@givethanks9850 5 жыл бұрын
Batman Begins > The Dark Knight There, I said it. In my opinion, each movie of Nolan's trilogy has a villain to match it's theme: Batman Begins = Fear; villain = Scarecrow The Dark Knight = Chaos; villain = Joker The Dark Knight Rises = Pain; villain = Bane
@givethanks9850
@givethanks9850 5 жыл бұрын
I would disagree with "you" and say that the theme of The Dark Knight is corruption, not chaos.
@baller8332
@baller8332 5 жыл бұрын
shehbaz but that’s what makes it more chaos themed, that almost everyone’s corrupt.
@ThaOvernightCelebrity
@ThaOvernightCelebrity 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, BBand TDK are two different films. One's a character origin story (BB) and the other is a an engrossing tragedy, crime drama, action Thriller (TDK). If we're going to be honest, TDK is overall a better movie, considering all aspects, but once again, they're two very different films. My uncle likes BB the best, and I like TDK. Honestly, I can see why people like BB the most: It feels more heroic. At the end of the movie, you want to be Batman. Whereas at the end of TDK, you want to be the Joker / Batman seems a bit insignificant, since the entire movie was spent tearing his life apart. But both, as well as TDKR, are wonderful films that have really well written stories.
@tmoe_ow2523
@tmoe_ow2523 5 жыл бұрын
I found Batman begins to be the worst of the three
@vinayseth1114
@vinayseth1114 5 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't The Dark Knight Rises's theme be 'control' though? Both Batman and Bane are fighting for control and surveillance of the city in that one. Batman goes as far out to monitor entire Gotham through whatever GPS-esque tech he uses in his basement, resulting in his falling out with Lucius Fox. Bane and his minions could be seen as a terrifying version of social justice warriors in this movie.
@MovieBuffConnorJamieson
@MovieBuffConnorJamieson 5 жыл бұрын
Batman Begins > The Dark Knight I've always thought this Batman begins is just so much tighter
@nicolasleroux5302
@nicolasleroux5302 3 жыл бұрын
Batman Begins is a great movie, but the philosophical war between Batman and Joker in Dark Knight is unmatched.
@TheScientist408
@TheScientist408 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video! I love ‘BATMAN BEGINS,’ and this really gave me an even greater appreciation for its narrative, story structure, characterizations, and themes.
@marcbibanga5601
@marcbibanga5601 5 жыл бұрын
Great way of breaking down the writing and details of this film. I've always appreciated that about Christopher Nolan's films.
@mightymouse5930
@mightymouse5930 5 жыл бұрын
“Act One” was more of a prologue.
@AliothAncalagon
@AliothAncalagon 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't a "prologue" just an "act" you are trying to define out of the act structure by giving it a different name?
@sufoneislamicapps5696
@sufoneislamicapps5696 5 жыл бұрын
"An act is a unit of story when a character makes an irrevocable decision"
@SuryaGatti
@SuryaGatti 7 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with the work and quality that went into this. Subscribed. Cheers.
@mauriov
@mauriov 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. I'm in the middle of revising my script and this has helped lots. Thanks again.
@LTR432700
@LTR432700 5 жыл бұрын
I like the way you lay out your videos. clear, concise...awesome stuff. But i think you should cover the flip side of this as well...cause there is far more that a writer can learn from Batman Begins, the act structure is very nice, especially when compared to the time bending plots of Nolan's other films...but...as much as there are things done very right in this film like the effort to make it "real" and to build a world around batman more than just a love interest and a villain and so forth...there are also a couple things that were done wrong, briefly hit on one mentioned in the video...the theme of fear, then you cut to the actors saying the word...which is because Nolan bashed the audience over the head with that theme again and again...its a good theme, and was good to include since it is what grounds the whole film, but the actions of the characters should tell that tale, not over exposition with actors rambling on about it over and over. He did the same thing in Dark Knight even worse with the "hero Gotham needs/wants/deserves/has". Nolan is good, and Begins wasn't bad...but most his films are hyped up far beyond where they should be, i end up sounding a bit overly negative than i intend trying to show this...and i am sorry, just trying to ground the conversations.
@chriscorley6478
@chriscorley6478 5 жыл бұрын
BVS: Dawn of Justice Ultimate Edition has excellent structure -- Love Batman Begins too. Great stuff beginning to end. ☕🐢
@TravisTrixta85
@TravisTrixta85 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@cabrondemente1
@cabrondemente1 5 жыл бұрын
no, it doesn't, sure it improves from the theatrical release but that's not saying much. for instance: the act imbalance is still there and the lack of moral conflict is still there.
@luisminervinovlog330
@luisminervinovlog330 6 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled upon this channel. Instant shared to an actor friend. This has truly helped me with a short script i am working on. Thanks for this channel and such quality breakdowns!
@DutchPlanDerLinde
@DutchPlanDerLinde 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid man
@DamjanPlamenac
@DamjanPlamenac 7 жыл бұрын
Do a What Writers Should Learn from Paul Thomas Anderson!!!
@matttazbin2642
@matttazbin2642 7 жыл бұрын
Damjan Plamenac Yesss!!!!
@CavemanJesus4Life
@CavemanJesus4Life 7 жыл бұрын
That they will never be him?
@KaizerMan
@KaizerMan 5 жыл бұрын
That John C Reilly will fit any role 😀
@zciliyafilms5508
@zciliyafilms5508 5 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video, since I love BvS for all of the same reasons that I love Batman Begins. This is way too big a thesis for me to try to tackle here, but there was one error that I saw that I think I need to highlight as a way of injecting some alternate analysis into this question. Your reason for excluding BvS from your 4 quarters opposition model has a flaw in it. In fact, what you say about the morally justified use of violence does apply to all four characters. Senator Finch is a representative of the United States government, and all modern states are accepted monopolies on violence. The only time it comes out (if the system runs right) is when one runs afoul of the law, but its threat is always underneath the surface. This is not a small or ideologically driven point, as the tension this creates with superheroes is one of the quiet unresolved problems in any universe that has superheroes in it. By the letter of the law, Batman, Superman and the rest of them are all equally criminals. So why aren't they arrested? Furthermore, if they cannot be controlled, then aren't they beyond the purview of these governments, setting up a crisis of multiple masters fighting for the sole moral use of violence? This is another point which has been made repeatedly in superhero stories of various media, and which is made with no ambiguity as the moral driving force of all three of the four corners opposed to Superman in BvS. I appreciate that you put this together and that you approach this subject intelligently. But having studied this topic pretty much from the moment the movie was released, I see these two movies having far more in common than in opposition.
@CoolioAintGotShiONMe
@CoolioAintGotShiONMe 5 жыл бұрын
Zciliya Films LOVED BVS too, more than the Nolan trilogy 🤩
@danielwadford3699
@danielwadford3699 4 жыл бұрын
So you make his point even clearer by saying that all 4 characters: Superman, Batman, Lex, and Senator Finch are the same person, therefore making the conflict even more meaningless?
@gammaechofoundationproductions
@gammaechofoundationproductions 6 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video! Keep up the great work! :)
@retu3510
@retu3510 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't thought this would be nearly as helpful as it was. Thanks.
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