Whatever Happened to Klimt’s Golden Lady? with E. Randol Schoenberg -- UC San Diego Library Channel

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E. Randol Schoenberg, the grandson of the composer Arnold Schoenberg, is an expert in handling cases involving looted art and the recovery of property stolen by the Nazi authorities during the Holocaust. He tells the story here of his most prominent case, “Republic of Austria v. Altmann” which resulted in the successful return of six paintings by Gustav Klimt, including the “Golden Lady,” to their rightful owners. Recorded on 05/06/2015. [6/2015] [Show ID: 29174]
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0:00 Start
7:54 Gustav Klimt
22:26 Gustavo Shitski
23:46 Family Maria and Fritz
45:47 Four Grounds for Affirming the Ninth Circuit
49:12 Court-Ordered Mediation

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@uctv
@uctv 8 ай бұрын
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@robertafierro5592
@robertafierro5592 8 ай бұрын
No nonsense guy! He knows his stuff and tells the story in a way that keeps us engaged. It's actually a sad story about life death and art. This is what makes a beautiful piece of art a legendary one!
@idalolo1
@idalolo1 8 ай бұрын
What an outstanding presentation! So engaging. I got very teary at the end. Thank you so much, Mr.Schoenberg!
@helensarkisian7491
@helensarkisian7491 8 ай бұрын
It certainly was. And it could have been so very boring. Great job!
@gailblissitt4504
@gailblissitt4504 8 ай бұрын
Thrilling story, beautifully told by the hero attorney !!!
@HenJack-vl5cb
@HenJack-vl5cb 3 жыл бұрын
I am here because of the wonderful movie and this lecture is absolutely brilliant..Thank you for uploading it!
@alanna4858
@alanna4858 7 ай бұрын
Came across this - stopped near the beginning and went immediately to watch the film. It’s a stunning film with an amazing cast!! So emotional. I immediately came back to listen to this presentation and it was absolutely fascinating and Brilliant.
@ncg5560
@ncg5560 8 ай бұрын
How fascinating to hear the entire REAL story of these works of art. Thank you so much for sharing.
@benzminibusdoc
@benzminibusdoc 8 ай бұрын
Mr. Schoenberg,you are a true force for good and that is something hard to resist. The multiple layers of injustice portrayed here are saddening, so your persistent effort to overcome them and your final success are joyous not only to the Bloch-Bauer family
@Ldyrev1
@Ldyrev1 9 ай бұрын
This is such a good story. I have seen the movie "Woman in Gold" twice and the information you present in this presentation makes the story even more complete. Thank you for sharing this information. I pray society never forgets the horrors of the past.
@jerrycallender9927
@jerrycallender9927 9 ай бұрын
Excellent! I watched the movie 5-6 times and often wondered how close to reality it was. Thank you for helping Maria recover her family's stolen art.
@judytelles3518
@judytelles3518 8 ай бұрын
I am now seeing that Adele wanted her art to go to the museum and no its not her husbands even though its a loop in the law. So her wishes wasnt fulfilled. She was able and rich enough to pay Klimt for her portrait and would have approached him herself to paint her as he was in her circle, there are no portraits done by Klimt of her husband . After all Klimt was her style of artist and not her husbands art style. Also the fact that she listed them specifically, and that there were 6/7. I am sure she knew they were hers when she listed them and she knew they were not her husband''s and that not being his taste he wouldnt want them, also if she had had the affair with Klimt it would be distasteful for it to remain with him. I think finding the legal loop of ownership was a loop to retain some of the lost wealth. I also saw that Adele may have had an affair with Klimt and she was the only woman he painted twice. Klimt was interested in Japanese and Egyptian art.
@EktaShah82
@EktaShah82 8 ай бұрын
@@judytelles3518nope she didn’t have the right and it was stolen by Nazis. They didn’t have the nerve to admit how they obtained it.
@EktaShah82
@EktaShah82 8 ай бұрын
@@judytelles3518secondly the real Adele died before the Nazis looted and killed Maria’s family. So no I don’t think she’d have wanted it to go to Nazis and Nazi deniers and secondly not all of her stuff was ever recovered including the jewelry she was wearing in the portrait Maybe use critical thinking some Maria would’ve left it in Vienna if they acknowledged real history of how they obtained it and given her her financial due
@Phlowermom
@Phlowermom 7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant!! No filler, no fluff, just the facts which are interesting enough to stand alone. At no point did my attention wander from this excellent presentation!
@roselewis7683
@roselewis7683 8 ай бұрын
Excellent lecture. Good for Mr. Schoenberg
@isidoreaerys8745
@isidoreaerys8745 3 жыл бұрын
Powerful story. Great storyteller. Subtle delightful humor
@lngridmoore1489
@lngridmoore1489 8 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen the film and had no idea of any of this. What an amazing story told so well.
@marina12345678911000
@marina12345678911000 8 ай бұрын
the movie is great! I highly recommend you to watch it!
@luarchitect-iu2hq
@luarchitect-iu2hq 7 ай бұрын
Great job with an incredibly complicated story! Truly a brilliant lawyer and storyteller.
@TameyIery
@TameyIery 8 ай бұрын
Beautiful story. So glad Maria and her family finally got justice.
@pauladouglas9891
@pauladouglas9891 8 ай бұрын
What a wonderful story, and the tenacity of this incredible sttorney who has devoted his practice to recovering these artworks.
@kimtravis308
@kimtravis308 8 ай бұрын
What a great story!!!
@Sperry411
@Sperry411 7 жыл бұрын
I can listen to Mr Schoenberg speaks all day long :). I am 100% full attention when he tells the story of Adele's painting.
@jamnraq
@jamnraq 7 жыл бұрын
Sperry411 I was all ears too!
@tinasmith770
@tinasmith770 3 жыл бұрын
meeee toooo!!!!!....this has been amazing!!...just love this story...
@ellenmorgan9857
@ellenmorgan9857 4 жыл бұрын
Praying justice would be served. Watching this lecture with facts presented so clearly and with charming humor brought back the thrill of hearing justice had, indeed, been served. God bless you, sir.
@karenhenderson2624
@karenhenderson2624 6 ай бұрын
Such an incredible story. I've watched the film 5 or 6 times, and accidently stumbled over this presentation today. Lucky day.
@yaa63
@yaa63 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant to say the least...I had seen this video but could not resist watching it again...and the movie is absolutely worth watching...thank you again for posting conference
@CarolTraxler
@CarolTraxler 8 ай бұрын
Fascinating, excellent presentation. I have so enjoyed seeing several of the paintings at the Belvedere in Vienna and the Neue Galerie in New York. Hearing the story so well told was such a treat.
@joellenjohnson4038
@joellenjohnson4038 8 ай бұрын
BEAUTIFUL
@micki0428
@micki0428 8 жыл бұрын
Very moving.I had tears in my eyes. I have both parents who are survivors.They never told much what happened to them.They told me though that it is a worth writing a book about it,and a month ago somebody did!An amazing story!The name of the book is Born survivors. I think it is crusial to still tell the untold and untellable. You have all my respect!
@lucylocket420
@lucylocket420 8 жыл бұрын
I have just watched Randol Schoenberg with total intoxication. This AMAZING story. What awe inspiring tenacity to gain JUSTICE - I feel so emotional.
@CeeCee630
@CeeCee630 Жыл бұрын
What an incredible story and terrific storyteller!
@danielfyffe5230
@danielfyffe5230 2 жыл бұрын
When I brought the story to the L.A. Times/ Robert Scheer's attention in 1999, Maria had told me that she intended to live at least as long it would take for the paintings to be returned to her family. That is very different from you saying that she was about to give up at the first hurdle/ prior to your investigation of wether or not the case could be heard in the US/ California. You certainly and brilliantly performed a Herculean task in retrieving the art works. I salute and bow deeply to your accomplishment yet also find it significant to keep the story straight and without embellishments that places Maria's will, fortitude and intentions in question.
@Nazaba09
@Nazaba09 7 жыл бұрын
what an eloquent speaker randy is and how nice to hear the film followed the events, instead of making things up. glad to hear everything turned out well for so many families.
@earlmcglinchey8048
@earlmcglinchey8048 6 жыл бұрын
Natalie Zayas-Bazan
@numendomini
@numendomini 4 жыл бұрын
unfortunately the film made up a pretty huge amount of things and only followed the timeline correctly. For example it was Hubertus Czernin who started the whole thing by publishing a multi piece about stolen art in Austrian museums and did a huge amount of work for maria altmann (he was the one finding and sending adeles will to the US)
@MrWhangdoodles
@MrWhangdoodles 3 жыл бұрын
I finished the film 3 hours ago. There's a lot of artistic license taken.
@Nazaba09
@Nazaba09 3 жыл бұрын
Joonha Shcal as a screenwriter with a disability, if I wrote a film about myself I only care that they get my disability right. As long as the basic idea is right, it’s ok.
@pistolannie6500
@pistolannie6500 Жыл бұрын
That's Why, I'm Always leery of watching movies..... "Based On True", "facts" ..... You don't know How Much of it to believe... And WHICH parts to believe.
@mpking-ey7ys
@mpking-ey7ys 7 жыл бұрын
In another documentary, Maria Altmann herself said in the very beginning she was prepared to let the paintings stay in Austria to be displayed to the public if the Belvedere acknowledges her rightful ownership. Shame they didn't take up the offer, and now the paintings are scattered and some of them privately owned, probably never to be seen again in the public.
@chrisbudesa9441
@chrisbudesa9441 3 жыл бұрын
the agreement was that this picture must always be on public display
@gailrsteinberg
@gailrsteinberg 7 ай бұрын
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@sarahmiller5632
@sarahmiller5632 6 ай бұрын
I saw the woman in Gold in a small art gallery in New York. I have a copy in my house and love it. This story is very interesting.
@janbarrett4544
@janbarrett4544 6 ай бұрын
So glad I listened to Randy Schoenberg because he knows his material and he is extremely funny.
@effel11
@effel11 7 ай бұрын
I find the painting fascinating, so i clicked on this video, not quite prepared for the whole new room i was ushered into. Wow.! engaging and inspiring presentation from Mr Schoenberg. It is a very brave thing to pursue a gut instinct at the expense of ones budding career. God bless Ms Maria for her perseverance, great service to her aunt's memory and the world of art. Things happened along the way to aid his eventual success.The Austrians- after all the hardship their citizens endured, could have been less aggressive. Their actions rub salt injuries, but I think they realised that too is why they changed tactic. Anyways, m off to watch the movie(s) now....i love when one thing leads me to many others. Thanks @UCTV for a wonderful video, I enjoyed it very much
@janbarrett4544
@janbarrett4544 6 ай бұрын
I'm so impressed with Mr.Schoenberg! He is well spoken,intelligent,and a born story teller.I loved the movie about Maria Altman but this lecture was really a great follow up.
@Agi1968
@Agi1968 7 жыл бұрын
I love you Randy, you did so much for Maria and for actually all Jews. You sought and found truth for this lovely Lady and your win is a big win for all Jews seeking truth for the horrible acts of WWII. It might be a single win but it is actually a huge one, acknowledging the horrible things Nazis did against Jews. Art theft is only one of those but getting back only one (and maybe a few more) master piece is a huge win. Well done!
@chemokiki
@chemokiki 8 ай бұрын
Totally agree. That painting and the extended lawsuits back and forth once again shone a light on the horrors of the time. A time that should NEVER be forgotten. As we know in the current area history has a habit of repeating itself ... most of you know of what I speak.
@viviennea.293
@viviennea.293 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Spectacular presentation. Thank you.
@superfuzzymomma
@superfuzzymomma 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent! - What an uplifting story! - I saw the two Adele paintings in 2006, in NYC, and they have been my favorite paintings ever since - Mr. Schoenberg, how proud you must be!...Thank you!
@lisasteiner3397
@lisasteiner3397 7 жыл бұрын
superfuzzymomma qw
@Thewombat50
@Thewombat50 5 жыл бұрын
Very moving on many fronts. Particularly encouraging that justice won through with a tenacious and skilled lawyer at the helm weeding out the rats. 👍 Well done.
@kasondaleigh
@kasondaleigh 7 ай бұрын
How wonderful! Great story telling! 👍👍
@SouthernArtist77
@SouthernArtist77 8 ай бұрын
What an excellent lawyer.
@emiliayonekokumata4764
@emiliayonekokumata4764 2 жыл бұрын
I learned about this story from the book "Stolen Beauty". I admire Maria and Randy for being so courageous and perseverant. For the sake of justice in memory of beloved Adele, they challenged the Austrian system. The journalist Hubertus also played an essential role.
@myrnaskertchly5483
@myrnaskertchly5483 8 жыл бұрын
Wonderful story by a wonderful speaker!!
@beckybell405
@beckybell405 7 жыл бұрын
Very well done. I really enjoyed hearing the story straight from you, Mr. Schoenberg. I saw the movie and it peaked my interest in stolen art by the Nazis. Thank you for your efforts in retrieving these works of art to their rightful owners.
@mpking-ey7ys
@mpking-ey7ys 7 жыл бұрын
It's probably not wrong to use "peak", but the right word is "pique".
@golfgirlessex
@golfgirlessex 8 жыл бұрын
Very heart lifting story, tinged with incredible sadness. Thank you for telling it.
@kitchenskills5427
@kitchenskills5427 Жыл бұрын
What a great story telling Mr. Schoenberg is. As Martin L. King once said, "the arc of the moral universe is long, but bends toward justice." I am glad she was able to experience justice in her lifetime.
@sunnyhill5119
@sunnyhill5119 9 ай бұрын
The Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King.👍💪
@DanielaPerez-yp1gb
@DanielaPerez-yp1gb Жыл бұрын
Good Afternoon, I love Gustav Klimt's The Kiss and the Golden Lady 😘 beautiful!!!!!!!! The Kiss I have had in my old Appartment. Very interesting 👌Thank you soooo much. Many GREETINGS
@pixie3791
@pixie3791 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant lecturer, so articulate, so smart!
@linrogers4326
@linrogers4326 3 жыл бұрын
I could listen to him all day. A lovely man.
@roz8723
@roz8723 4 жыл бұрын
Fabulous talk. What a story.
@aideenleavy9570
@aideenleavy9570 4 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this lecture, such a natural speaker.
@MRiitta
@MRiitta 7 ай бұрын
Very interesting story and so well presented, Thank you very much.
@katewild2194
@katewild2194 8 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Really enjoyed this clip. Thank you for posting it.
@CallieMasters5000
@CallieMasters5000 5 жыл бұрын
You've done very good to get anything back from Austria! Excellent presentation, too!
@davidwright8432
@davidwright8432 4 жыл бұрын
I knew the painting, of course, but none of the story. Not just a cliffhanger - a mountain range of cliffhangers! And as a Narrator, Sir - Homer would have muttered, 'How did he do that? How?' Brilliantly, is the answer. Thanks!
@gabyroberts9601
@gabyroberts9601 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much
@ytcarol
@ytcarol 8 жыл бұрын
This is fascinating. What a good, clear speaker he is. Just saw the movie well-played by all. One of many stories from that awful period of history, which should always be kept alive.
@user-us5fs7zv8c
@user-us5fs7zv8c 5 жыл бұрын
Потрясающий спикер! Рассказывать так интересно и с юмором такую сложную, запутанную и местами очень печальную историю - это нужно иметь талант!
@paulinewqi
@paulinewqi 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. ..most scintillating expose of historical events!!....
@philiphema2678
@philiphema2678 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the historical background to these beautiful paontings. There is a wonderful documentary on KZfaq about the Klimt family et al so this presentation rounds out the story.
@louisaleroux5610
@louisaleroux5610 6 ай бұрын
Thank you. Love this story of justice.⚖️
@monicatindercosmos
@monicatindercosmos 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely amazing story; beautiful resolution to a story that’s so sad.
@DennisReganComedy
@DennisReganComedy 8 жыл бұрын
Terrific story... extremely well told!
@lightkeeper609
@lightkeeper609 Ай бұрын
Excellent speaker! Austria needs to make it right by returning ALL stolen paintings to their rightful owners or descendents.
@robertmartin542
@robertmartin542 8 ай бұрын
Thought the movie was great and the story while tragic, inspiring! This family was robbed of everything and even with proof had to fight to recover what was theirs. Shame on the state department for aiding the Austrians in their theft. So glad justice prevailed in this case!
@kejianleng8048
@kejianleng8048 7 жыл бұрын
Love this story! Thank you.
@ellenmorgan9857
@ellenmorgan9857 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent lecture! I had read about the Klimt paintings in a book about the retrieval of art stolen by the nazis. It was just prior to the attempt beginning to retrieve the artwork. It was thrilling to read about the procedures taking place
@gailgoldade547
@gailgoldade547 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Great work, sir!
@GayleAlstrom
@GayleAlstrom 8 жыл бұрын
This was one of the most interesting lectures I ever saw or heard. I have to see the movie now.
@kitholuk1877
@kitholuk1877 4 жыл бұрын
@remus moraru WOMAN IN GOLD
@deborahnarendorf7106
@deborahnarendorf7106 4 жыл бұрын
remus moraru Lady in Gold. It was so good that I bought the movie (Blu-ray)
@shosh19631
@shosh19631 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! Fabulous lecture!
@wendyelainedonald
@wendyelainedonald 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you This was very interesting. What a speaker. He was able tobring to life this fascinating story. Of course it was the way he fought this long case that makes the story something special.
@karleenpage5979
@karleenpage5979 8 ай бұрын
A very interesting story indeed! What is the movie that the narrator keeps referring to?
@PabloFSalas
@PabloFSalas Жыл бұрын
I´m from Mexico. I loved the movie and the story..!! It´s a great story..!! This lecture is absolutely brilliant..!! Me encató la pelicula y su historia. Desde entonces me puse a buscar más videos sobre el tema. Me encantó la ponencia..!!
@dianeluke1746
@dianeluke1746 4 жыл бұрын
I saw the movie, and it was great to hear what actually happened. I just wish restitution could include the lives of those lost...
@josephhapp9
@josephhapp9 4 жыл бұрын
A wonderful piece of history. The film and original documentary fascinated me totally. Life is tough enough for most of us,,,but this is an amazing success story. It is sad that property and homes were not all returned and reparation for persecution enforced. Peace.
@furiouslala9375
@furiouslala9375 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for a wonderful lecture.
@LNB259
@LNB259 7 ай бұрын
Great job! Full circle story and triumph for all in the end. Wish I could view these paintings in person
@marycahill546
@marycahill546 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting that to this day Austrian laws conspire to keep Jews separated from their property. Schoenberg was so lucky to win the case at the American Supreme Court. Then to win the Austrian arbitration was nothing short of miraculous. It's totally amazing that there was justice in this case.
@heididarnhofer9406
@heididarnhofer9406 4 жыл бұрын
Mary Cahill hw
@ladybug7967
@ladybug7967 6 жыл бұрын
Incredible story. Thank you
@gabyroberts9601
@gabyroberts9601 2 жыл бұрын
Super good 😊
@AlexDdaSilva
@AlexDdaSilva 8 жыл бұрын
this is a very nice story! looking forward to see the film.
@joellenjohnson4038
@joellenjohnson4038 7 ай бұрын
Love this story the paintings were home
@mumr4268
@mumr4268 Жыл бұрын
Wow...I understood your whole talk...thank you!!!!!
@ThomasHalways
@ThomasHalways 8 ай бұрын
Sometimes reality is better than the fiction!
@julielily6517
@julielily6517 7 ай бұрын
That was wonderful!
@martijndegraaffvangemert8062
@martijndegraaffvangemert8062 3 жыл бұрын
amazing job amazing told !!!! thank you
@andreaswagner6022
@andreaswagner6022 4 жыл бұрын
Great lecture. And I was lucky enough to see both of the Adele Bloch-Bauer paintings when I visited New York. Unfortunately I did not know the story of the two statues.
@crabbyresister9194
@crabbyresister9194 7 ай бұрын
Amazing story. And, yes, i saw the movie. Incredible journey for the attorney and this family and these wonderful pieces of art!
@NimrodTargaryen
@NimrodTargaryen 6 ай бұрын
Amazing🎉❤...thanks
@1931JC
@1931JC 8 жыл бұрын
Love the story but absolutely have adored Klimt and this one is at the top of the list. What a great win this is for those who lost all.
@rayjonest.v7258
@rayjonest.v7258 5 жыл бұрын
I major in art, in college for 2yrs, before I change my major, 2yrs commercial art, I have a great appreciate for the arts.
@superfuzzymomma
@superfuzzymomma 7 жыл бұрын
Brilliant presentation - I had to comment again!!!
@gerrirose6678
@gerrirose6678 4 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@cgarby
@cgarby 4 жыл бұрын
Great lecture
@pamelaparizo
@pamelaparizo 8 жыл бұрын
A wonderful victory for one Jewish family; so many lost so much. It's good to see these returned to their rigthtful owners.
@altorre5739
@altorre5739 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny, because in my family no one had master paintings during the war.
@ggurks
@ggurks 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know... I think the best place for those paintings would be a public museum in Vienna. That was also Adele Bloch-Bauers wish
@BrotherWoody1
@BrotherWoody1 9 жыл бұрын
Great program. Now, if Mr. Schoenberg would do a film on his illustrious grandfather. . .or at least a lecture.
@mpoharper
@mpoharper 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice historic story telling by a participant in the history!!
@dicknordlund8928
@dicknordlund8928 7 ай бұрын
Very good presentation
@ellenmorgan9857
@ellenmorgan9857 6 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@tinasmith770
@tinasmith770 Жыл бұрын
FABULOUS!!!!!!.......just loved this!!...i love Klimt...
@yaa63
@yaa63 3 жыл бұрын
Superb in every way
@Cats2Fat
@Cats2Fat 8 жыл бұрын
what a touching story!!!
@johnnylikewhat87
@johnnylikewhat87 4 жыл бұрын
I love this speech, I must admit. The movie was amazing and the book was outstanding...
@pambravo7013
@pambravo7013 5 жыл бұрын
Great story behind this beautiful painting.
@utsukusih
@utsukusih Жыл бұрын
Amazing!!
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