Whats wrong with my Passion Fruit Collection?

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All the fruit

All the fruit

Ай бұрын

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@jfiekms
@jfiekms Ай бұрын
Maybe a cage like trellis or a couple more strings would help a little.
@chuckmarecic9313
@chuckmarecic9313 Ай бұрын
Compost and mulch maybe? That would help mitigate any mineral deficiencies and stabilize soil moisture.
@allthefruit
@allthefruit Ай бұрын
Will do
@LoganShelton-rh3lp
@LoganShelton-rh3lp Ай бұрын
That's a great recommendation Chuck. Especially with limited/ no watering and southern facing plaster wall that will reach surface temperatures of more than 100f or 38c on moderate weather full sun days. In the last few days even my watermelon vines have started to burn that are touching my house foundation and vinyl siding. Also the weed control and lawn care damage prevention.
@allthefruit
@allthefruit 28 күн бұрын
Okok, ill do
@chuckmarecic9313
@chuckmarecic9313 28 күн бұрын
@@allthefruit I hope that works! By the way, you’ve got a great channel. I enjoy following your adventures!
@allthefruit
@allthefruit 27 күн бұрын
Thank you
@mrcat5992
@mrcat5992 Ай бұрын
i think you might be right with drought, we had a very wet year and quite cool in england and my passionfruits are growing very well.
@MrPortajohn
@MrPortajohn Ай бұрын
That's strange because they are very low maintenance plants. Maybe being by a walk way means there could potentially be salt from deicing the paths in winter or herbicide, that doesn't look like herbicide or salt damage. I don't think lack of water is the cause on its own because that too should look like what you'd see from herbicide. Since you said it's a south facing, excess heat from that wall they're planted by could be essentially cooking the plants on very hot days. I think that it's most likely that. I'd try moving them to something they can climb that doesn't absorb, retain, and radiate so much heat. A freestanding trellis would be good, or an east or west facing wall if you want it to still be on a wall.
@allthefruit
@allthefruit Ай бұрын
A big chestnut is growing south of them and last year they started looking like that when i stopped watering them in late August. So rather drought than heat. No salt or pesticides but its the chemistry department. Who knows whats in the soil
@WeeSecure-uk
@WeeSecure-uk 21 күн бұрын
Roots and moisture - Roots may not be able to penetrate deep as you have against wall and the foundations may stick out - leaving shallow bed. Yes, also the concrete (if not waterproofed) will suck the moisture out of the soil. Finally it could be contaminants in soil - maybe passion fruit is sensitive to aluminium in concrete.
@jeremybyington
@jeremybyington Ай бұрын
You are right about your assumption that it is too dry there. Put down 4” of mulch across that whole strip and it should prevent enough of the water from evaporating to keep them happy.
@allthefruit
@allthefruit Ай бұрын
Im afraid everything underneath is just rubble thats why water disaplears
@austintrees
@austintrees Ай бұрын
I had two passion fruit not survived last winter, and all 10 of my party kiwis took two years before they started to do anything other than looking dead, I have two more replacement passion fruits, but I've heard that they are quite aggressive when they survive.
@allthefruit
@allthefruit 26 күн бұрын
Yes they are but ive lost hope with mine
@paul.1337
@paul.1337 Ай бұрын
My guess would be alkaline soil and/or needing more water. It's not where the chem students dump their extra RoundUp is it? ;) My brief research says they like the 6.5 ph, like basically everything besides blueberries do, but there was a research paper saying they do well with very acidic soil. Water and some acidifying fertilizer or sulfur pellets is what I'd go with.
@hochiminh66
@hochiminh66 Ай бұрын
It is still early, my passion vines (p. incarnata) are only 30-50cm. I think yours would benefit from thick mulch and water. Maybe check the PH, it might be too alkaline from the concrete and stucco.
@sneakythumbs9900
@sneakythumbs9900 Ай бұрын
I have had several young p. edulis die seemingly from waterlogged soil. p. caerulea is an illegal invasive here so I couldn't comment on that one.
@jeremybyington
@jeremybyington Ай бұрын
They will do fine if your weather stays above 18C for the growing season. The only mistake you made is not planting them in a container. For me in zone 6b (newly changed to 7a) growing passiflora incarnata, passiflora lutea, and passiflora edulis, the first year they establish their roots. The second year they have a few flowers with maybe a couple fruit, and the third year you will have dozens of fruit…because the roots send up new shoots 10ft away in all directions. I corrected that mistake by burying large pots with drainage. I found roots the width of my fingers about 18” deep so do with that info what you will 😂. Oh, and I have my edulis in pots I bring indoors over winter because it gets down to -26C here in the Midwest USA. My basement stays around 18C all winter and I put them in front of a large window and they do fine.
@LoganShelton-rh3lp
@LoganShelton-rh3lp Ай бұрын
Any supplemental lightning required?
@jeremybyington
@jeremybyington Ай бұрын
@@LoganShelton-rh3lp I can’t say for sure. The window I place them at over winter is very large and south-facing so it is practically a green house.
@raregrowsNJ
@raregrowsNJ Ай бұрын
I have a lot of plants against a retaining wall that has backfill to stabalize the wall and they are fruiting (not passionfruit but apple, pomegranate, fig, etc) so it's not an issue that there is rubble the roots will find a way. If it's dry, add mulch but dont cover the stem so it doesn't rot. Water with a water soluable nitrogen fertilizer in the watering can or add some feeding pellets so when it does rain it will release some. Nitrogen will push new green leaves to grow out.
@LoganShelton-rh3lp
@LoganShelton-rh3lp Ай бұрын
What are you mid summer high temps in NJ? In Arkansas we have a good month of 100F + days. Occasionally week of 105-110
@raregrowsNJ
@raregrowsNJ Ай бұрын
@@LoganShelton-rh3lp we do occasionally get to 100f, but not common. Last weeks heat wave were in the upper 90s
@sunenielsen2686
@sunenielsen2686 Ай бұрын
I had a couple of incarnata growing in my garden in Denmark last year, their first year, and they had a lot of growth and flowers. This year they did not come up and I thought they were dead - but a couple of days ago, I saw one emerging from the ground. They are growing in light shade in a place that never gets bone dry. I do water sometimes. This year, I have bought a couple more incarnatas and in addition to that edulis, as I want fruits. I have tried new locations, still light shade. But snails eat them almost to the ground.. as it seems to be their favourite plant in this wet sommer with lots of them. So snails seem to be the biggest problem here now, and plants do well in light shade in not too dry conditions.
@XoroksComment
@XoroksComment Ай бұрын
It's normal for P. incarnata to only wake up in middle/end of June in Europe. Especially if you planted it in anything but full sun. It comes from very warm summer climates in the US. Here in Europe, it is best grown in full sun in a raised hill, so that it wakes up as early as possible. With protection from all the slugs that love to eat the shoots and delay them even further of course. Raphael Maier from Lubera is currently trying to breed P. incarnata varieties and hybrids that wake up earlier and have a shorter fruit ripening period.
@allthefruit
@allthefruit 26 күн бұрын
Yeah, have to wait long for incarnata to come up. You have edulis outdoors? Amazing. How is it going?
@sunenielsen2686
@sunenielsen2686 26 күн бұрын
@@allthefruit To be honest - I don't believe them to be edulis any longer. Just the common caerulea. But still - I sometimes buy plants from a guy with an amazing garden north of Copenhagen. He has a big old passionwine growing outside with white passionflowers that I had to try at home too. I have only seen such a big passionwine once before in the inner part of Copenhagen - it is gone now unfortunately - and it was a caerulea with blue flowers. I think microclima in that area makes it possible for passionwines to grow large. Anyways, I asked what kind of passionflower it was, and he said probably edulis after looking it up. Now I know there are white caeruleas and it is more likely to survive outsite. Would be fun to try edulis, so I might do that.
@lyonheart84
@lyonheart84 Ай бұрын
Might be lack of water but also young passionfruits don't compete well with weeds ( which also compete for water ). I'd be tempted to weed that bed then mulch it
@allthefruit
@allthefruit Ай бұрын
I weed and mulch it from time to time
@zinckensteel
@zinckensteel Ай бұрын
No one I know has had good luck growing them around here, Seattle WA, probably due to root rot from being too wet in winter.
@allthefruit
@allthefruit Ай бұрын
Thats a pity
@quitlife9279
@quitlife9279 Ай бұрын
They look awful, definitely should start an intensive regime to water and fertilise, A LOT, as well as weeding and mulching. Sometimes when planting so close to a building there can be a lack of water in the soil even if it rains, especially when the prevailing wind is blowing from behind the building and a rain-shadow is created. Also like has been said you need a trellis style support to grow passionvines, they're not runner beans and need to be able to spread horizontally too, by far most of the growth will be horizontal. It almost looks like it's got a severe sap sucking insect problem but maybe it's just the poor conditions.
@sergio34410
@sergio34410 Ай бұрын
Yes , your suggestion is Wright on ! Hopefully he’ll follow up on it and create this conditions for the vines to thrive! Thanks
@sufianyahuza
@sufianyahuza Ай бұрын
Wrong country to plant it?
@allthefruit
@allthefruit Ай бұрын
Nope. Lots of big plants with fruits around town
@hardshengpizi
@hardshengpizi Ай бұрын
Fertilizer
@allthefruit
@allthefruit Ай бұрын
What type?
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