@@jamalnasah1625 why would god let any of this happen to her in the first place? why would he cause her lifelong mental trauma, and physical trauma? i don't believe god is real, but if he were, then he's disgusting and cruel. nobody deserves a punishment or a test like that for any reason, let alone a little girl.

@@jamalnasah1625 God watching a little girl getting hacked to pieces going "ayo fam dw Ill help you call the police" and feeling pleased with himself for how "gracious" he is

@@jamalnasah1625 no, adrenaline and smart thinking did. If your god was real they're the reason why she got attacked as well, you realize that?

@@roytgoiys8173 People are bad, God is good. God is perfect in every sense of the word. Do not make fun of God. Every word you say will be accounted for at the gates of Heaven by the Lord. But He loves you. Accept Him.

@@racheld4184 PFFFFFFFF aight sure, label me as an ignorant lost person or whatever. I'm not tethered by a belief and judgment in something that doesn't exist. If god is so good amd made us in his image then why are we all such worthless fuckers? Almost the bossman himself is a bit shit too huh?

That is perhaps one of the best things to come out of this case, lmao. Poetic justice.

They probably don't feel very smart now realizing that they got themself in prison doing something that most prisoners will think is monstrous. I can tell you right now they aren't gonna be treated very well when everyone finds out they mutilated and tried to kill a little girl. They are likely gonna have to live a very solitary life in protective custody.

​@@billfred9411 screw that throw them in general and let the inmates take care of the rest

Does anyone know what the object at 1:15:03 - 1:15:10 is and why they zoomed in on it? Like is it a flashlight or the same word with "e" instead of "a" and it was shown while Autumn talking about the boy saying, "He said his mom degraded him." Weird editing lol

@@allisons6910 it does seem like a random picture but i’m almost 100% certain that’s just a water bottle

Pocket bussy

5‘2 fleshlight

He’ll be traded for Ramen Noodles.

Already has by now

​@@XxCOOKEExxMONSTARxX we can only hope.

idk why this is so funny to me 😭

this is so funny its just sad lol 🤣😭

The Billiest Billy who ever Billied

😂😂😂😂😂

He talks like a Billy too. I give him 10/10 Billies

Being a parent, idk why I listen to these things, it hurts from every angle. Obviously, that poor little girl has to live with this forever. Her father wonders every day what he could have done differently or how he could have been home to help.. But those horrific killers were good little children at one point, too. That's what really messes with me. Their parents seemingly loved them and tried to raise them right and they ended up the worst people imaginable. I can't imagine the shame and heartache their parents feel, too. That being said, you don't get a more straightforward case for the death penalty. There's no hope for rehabilitation there and they should never be free, not just for punishment, but because they're too much of a risk for society. Idk what the legality is in their state but I feel the death penalty is appropriate.

@@za5820 I hear you, this is not good for my mental health. I rarely watch these videos and every time I do I regret it. I can't help but see my daughters in that girl and it breaks my heart.

Damn, that's good. These guys might have failed to steal her life, at least they didn't also manage to destroy her soul.

@@za5820most people like this actually have some sort of history of child abuse or trauma in their lives, or something along those lines. It’s a weird way to see it, but I like to find comfort in that, because it means that children aren’t just randomly turning into murderous monsters at some point in their development. Obviously not in every single case, but at least it isn’t completely random 😅😅

@@rlynn8249 True, but I wonder how many of those cases are sociopaths using a fake story to somehow manipulate those around them, whether after the fact in prison or before their crimes as a precursor. I hope you're right though.

Doing work to benefit others is a very effective way to help you over come loss or depression. I am very glad to hear she is managing to come out the other side of this and do good things on top of it.

Jamie is such an amazing being. Her presence of mind to do everything possible to survive helped tremendously to get these low-life psychos out of circulation. Jamie saved not only her life, but the lives of other victims because this gang wasn’t gonna stop killing until the cops stopped them.

Came here to find this comment. ❤ good to hear

Whats the name of the interview, i cant find it.

​@@thelonewolf0073 hey i just typed in Jaimie Cates now and i think you'll find it by typing that.

Meth

Drugs

New England winters.

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SEVEN INCH KNIFE??

Yes sir - same one in this profile pic!

That's crazy

@@ItachiUchiha-be9bz I'll never forget it

can you tell that about her mother?

no because the mom isn't 11. @@gubunki

@@gubunkiinstead of complaining that he didn’t mention her, why don’t you say something kind about her?

seems like every first degree criminal these days fakes insanity...

That’s false It’s a story about many killers However the child is extremely strong, I’m glad she made it

OMFG I was looking for a comment that mentions the socks. I am sooooo happy I wasn't the only one who catched it. :D

I think it was more that they were so full of themselves and the feeling of superiority and maybe even not caring about if it could potentially be traced back to them.

Thankfully they were so stupid that they were caught and didn't go on to hurt anyone else.

There is a reason why they are criminals

It's almost as dumb as that one idiot that wrote a stick-up note and passed it to a bank teller to rob the bank...he wrote the note on the back of a personal check 🥴

same, I'm not sure if I have ADHD but I'm certain I do have autism, so I would find it very hard to communicate at all with someone. Especially in a situation where there (technically) is a right vs wrong answer and every mistake and piece of behavior matters a lot and could literally put me in prison

Same, I have super bad anxiety and get scared when I think I looked at someone the wrong way lol

I'm autistic and same

I could be wrong but I'm guessing they have other means of determining whether a person is evasive because of guilt or just seems evasive due to mannerisms. So many of the interrogations last hours so there's a lot more questions being asked than we see, I'm sure questions that establish baselines and stuff like that. Us with ADHD usually exhibit it all the time so they would be able to determine that we have that pretty quickly and able to take it into consideration.

I'm sure the inmates are super scared of this guy because he is so craazyyy

@@obannon7740 Nah with a physical build like that these guys are becoming someones lil biach. idc how spooky you are, if you aint strong and you target the weak like children everyone will be your opp.

@@luumasaan5782 That isnt going to happen either. This dude tried to kill a little girl. He is going to have a very short prison sentence, but he wont be exiting the jail

@@Miner-zn4lt you cant read

@@luumasaan5782 Huh? I meant the other prisoners are going to probably end up murdering this dude

Yes, but a young girl who can override her natural instincts during fight or flight to save her own life and push through the physical pain of her injuries, as well as the mental and emotional pain of what was happening to her mother and still manage to completely stay silent to survive, she's got the strength to carry on with life. While she will never forget it, i think she'll have a good productive life and not let this moment that was totally out of control ruin her forever... Her mom's only concern was her daughter living for that exact reason, so imagine on those hard days that'll be/has been her driving force when things are at there worst

She's a survivor and behaved like a warrior. She has the strength to not continue to be a victim. There have been kids throughout history that had it even worse that went on to be happy fulfilled adults, I'm betting she'll be one of them.

I mean or this was the event that broken them forever

Detective at roughly 41 minutes in, sound like Seinfeld! That cracked me up. Please remember everyone, I'm certainly not trying to be disrespectful regarding the videos very fragile material. Tks.

@@cohenmandysangalang6302 Holy crap I thought I was the only one. But yeah, not trying to be disrespectful about anything, I just loved his voice is all.

I'd assume they stole it.

I love yard sales. I have found some cool things but you have to go early to get the good stuff.

Terrible terrible imagine being the parent of this evil boys!!! After they did this terrible crime claiming they are mentally sick so they can get away with the horrible crime 😮😮

This proves appearances deceives

That's a nice thought but these dummies went around literally telling people they killed a mother and daughter. I think they would've been caught no matter what

Buydungs running free

Can you imagine as a parent having to practice with your kid, what to do if someone tries to hurt you & how to play dead? Ughhh😢

Some guy Don doesn’t think so

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Why leave this as a comment?

​​@@kevinbissinger what do you mean by that?

The will to live is beyond what traumas exist. People would be amazed about what awful things humans must live through to stay alive. They'd be shocked to see what others had to endure. But the will to live is strong

​@@kevinbissinger What's wrong with the comment? You do realize this is the "comment section" right?

​@@kevinbissingeruh, welcome to the comment section. 😂 I see you're not one for freedom of speech.

Garage bands never have names like that , it sounds like a death metal band

​@@samuraininjarockstar9355 You're right. Teens never start bad metal bands with goofy ass names in their garage. Ever.

@@batkat0 My 30 yo peadough ex had a shitty garage band called Feedlot. It isn’t just teens. Specifically because “we are all just cattle lead to the slaughter”. Their top song? Piss On Me. Just some old weirdo badly screaming piss on me, repeatedly, and apparently it was about people putting their philosophies on this single child upper middle class, no trauma, loving parents type beat of a garbage man.

Or a solid dungeons and dragons group

You can tell they are cringy little cowards just from the name, without even watching this video that confirms it.

Read an article, she studies some sort of health aide in college, also plays field hockey for that college, so she's living as swell as possible, though I'm sure the PTSD and horror comes through time to time... What a strong last she probably has become

@@DZblaze that's really good to hear

@@oouziii4679 yarrr

She doesn’t have to live either horror the rest of her life. No one does. They choose to.

Agreed

Ghey

Facts

@@JB-kg1zv -Ghey- ==> Gay D-, see me after class

Whenever somebody uses quotation marks, that can be a red flag for deception

🤣🤣🤣

😂 i think the same thing everytime. Also think about how my constant fidgeting will get judged as guilt 😂😂

😂😅😮 hilarious 😆

It's a bit disturbing that you think you could one day possibly be a murder suspect.😁😁

Omg Right😅

did they? or did thy just try to shield him from the consequences of his actions and thus damage him even further?

I do think they thought they were helping him, but I wouldnt say they went "above and beyond".....

Seriously!! His parents home-schooled him, & to be a mormon like them.... Religions have not õnly caused wars, evidently have been the core of many problems!!..

Agreed. You adopt a baby boy and do the best you can. I know a guy who wasnt adopted and was diagnosed with bipolar. His bright smile and every girls dreams turned downhill really quickly. His siblings/parents are SIMPLY THE BEST! He is doing good only under Meds though :(

Shield him from consequences? What consequences? They tried their best to get him help. He hadn't committed any crimes yet. ​@@esmeraldaweatherwaxe970

I found her instagram !She's doing great !!! She seems like an amazing amazing person and her smile is beautiful !

I live near this town. I pray she is as okay as she can be

@@ThelouwseFDwhat’s her @

@@TeachFK_Gamingcmon, man. Don’t give people that…

I wonder how the officer must’ve felt. Like, dude…how could that not become personal for him, ya know?

💯 EXACTLY!

Good instincts in what must have been a terrifying situation

Four members of The Disciples of Destruction versus a sleeping woman and child. And they still only managed to kill one of the two. I hope that little irony bothers them.

No....as "people", we absolutely DO give kids credit for how smart and clever they can be. I do, I know you do and every other adult who hears this story does as well.

AGREED!!!

Exactly! Not to mention the fact that he also pleaded for Eldon's life

finally I see someone else commenting about this, it seems as though everything can be a red flag - which, to be fair, is kind of true in my opinion. Every single element of a suspect's behavior can be taken as a red flag, but that does not mean it 100% means they are guilty. For example not moving at all vs moving a lot (fidgeting, bouncing leg, touching face) can both show someone's stress about the situation, but it's hard to tell whether it's because they are guilty or because they are being interrogated by police about a serious crime and are seen as a possible suspect in the interrogator's eyes. Same goes for speech, someone may use "maybe"/"I think"/"probably" because they genuinely are not sure and very stressed at the moment and find it hard to recall what they did on said day, especially if it's a small thing like which route they took when driving

@@mysteriousluck I'm always confused when they say "and then" statements when giving an alibi is a red flag. I feel like that's a completely normal way to state the things that you did on any given day. i.e. "I went to school and then I walked with my friends to soccer practice" I talk like that all the time !! lol

"Being in the interrogation room is a red flag. Someone sitting in an interrogation room may be being deceptive, as they may be a person of interest related to the crime."

It’s because of the context of what they act defensive about & what they don’t.

Same 🤣🤣🤣🤣

im sorry but for me white ppl look the same, in this instance it’s harder for me to distinguish between them because they all have buzz cuts

When you copy and paste

Seriously, they are just creepy copy paste psychos. 😳

copy pasted white dudes kill some people for no reason makes me scared to leave the house just to go to work

I completely agree, she was clearly very close with her mother since she was sleeping in her bed, it mustve been horrible for her to play dead while not knowing if her mother was going to survive or not.. smart girl.. she mustve had so much faith in her moms love to know that she'd perfer her to survive than for her to panic and try and check up on her

Well i dropped a knife while chopping some vegetables, in a moment of sheer stupidity i tried grabbing it, it bounced with the handle on the table, tip up, i forcefully stabbed my hand almost through. Immediately after feeling the pain shock and the table covered in blood, I passed out. If it wasn't for my stepdad i would probably have died like an idiot in a pool of blood while chopping vegetables. Everyone says "it's just a small stab, you'll be fine" while ignoring the pain shock reaction that can incapacitate you really fast if you're not used to pain. Lessons learned: don't underestimate knives, and a falling knife has no handle, don't try grabbing it, let it fall instead, then pick it up and wash it. Pain shock is a horrible feeling, yet somehow she managed to call police.

Fun side effects of all those chemicals is that you don't feel pain. Soldiers are trained to check themselves after taking cover because you often don't feel getting hit through the adrenaline. The human body is capable of incredible things when it needs to be.

I don't think it was fortitude. I think it was her "fight, flight, or FREEZE" Instinct. She froze, as a deer would. Your brain doesn't think when you do those responses. It's a response for a reason: it saves your life

shock

I detect he might have Asperger’s or some sort of Autism along with his other diagnosis. There’s something not right there. He has kind of a goofy awkwardness. Hardly a badass but a weird, disturbed kid from the sticks of the least bad ass state, New Hampshire.

Most parents don’t “do whatever they can” there parents are probably neglectful

​@@thedifferenceincolour7341the one set of parents weren't. They tried to get him help several times.

⁠@@justinfowler5761but the same parents literally admitted to spanking that kid so hard with a wooden paddle, that it broke💀 then they didn’t want to confess any further of what they had done to him when he was younger (no im not trying to defend Chris btw)

But he's such a "gentlemanly chivalry" guy!! Looks like homeschooling skipped the adjectives vs nouns lesson.

Yeah usually they are pretty calm and are playing friends, but not this detective😂😂

the boston accents make it 10x better

​@@graysonjmesDon't be ridiculous. Boston accents are disgusting. Worst accent on the planet

These yokel halfwit 'tough guys' lack ambition. What a pack of dumbos. This type of violent criminal always goes for elderly people, women, drunk men and children. Wow, great work you 'Disciples of Destruction'. Pffft. What grotesque little weasels.

We underestimate them cause we are adults and they are kids we adults think we know best

@@kyb7795 which most of the time is correct, I say this as a kid

@@kyb7795 yes we always forget how we were when we were kids.

This comment section reminded me of south park. Although i think kids r too ignored when even as an adult you understand that you will always have something to learn from those older and younger than you. Its amazing really because even the most unreliable person can give a persepective youve yet to see. That doesnt make someone suddenly reliable. the same way you can learn from someone younger than you but you are still a well of knowledge in comparison and thats just due to time. Now when that younger person is the age you were maybe the imformation they hold will be more accurate and you have lots to still learn. Thats how it is though no one person can really hold all the information in the world, but it can be in many. we can all learn lots from eachother.

Kids are kids but in these situationen they have to grow up!!!! But they are not adult!!!!!!!

I heart your comment so much. Watching videos like these, following true crime, and having friends and family in law enforcement has helped me protect myself and others through the years. Warning signs are often there and trusting our instinct is #1 our best tool.

​@@virtzrl ya... because not a single soul in Mont Vernon, NH has the internet, or uses youtube right? they may be random people to you, and random people to me as well, but they aren't random people to their neighbors, friends, family, acquaintances, etc etc.

@@virtzrl sounds like you got issues you gotta work through buddy

@@virtzrl No, I think you're acting crazy and weird by assuming people are searching out a specific horrific case just to lie about having known or knowing the victim for "attention". It's a you issue thinking that, because there's something wrong with you. So... stop being a weirdo.

​@@virtzrlas a hermit who lives in a small makeshift shack not far from where this took place I take exception to your statement. There are literally DOZENS of us out here!

@@mud5377 it’s one thing to know the incident that happened near you, it’s another thing to know the people involved is all I’m saying.

I haven't finished the video...did the killers not sabotage the system before hand? It was actually a coincidence?

They didn't say, but considering that they picked out the house beforehand, I just don't believe it was random. Then again, I don't know that they had the know-how to sabotage the alarm without it being obvious.

@@Sinsteel Magnets work nicely on electronics

@@Ocrilat it was mentioned early on. They had a system, it failed, they were going to get it repaired but weren’t worried where they live.

Horrible way to die. My fear is being stabbed or beaten to death

There was a case in Connecicut where two former inmates brutalized and killed a mother and her two girls, then set fire to the house while they were tied to the bed. I often think about the husband/father and how his life is now. Co-incidentally, a friend, who is a retired corrections officer said he had to see them every day in prison and restrain himself from killing them, himself

​@@Automedon2damn. That's fucking hard man. Never thought about how cos actually know the cases of alot of their prisoners. Fuck.

True 💔.

"disciples of destruction" So weak they had to resort to targeting children to have any impact on this planet. These fools deserve to be left in a dark pit with only the dirt and grubs to keep them occupied.

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Why would you have to face sheer anguish with this story?

this is such a weird comment lmao….

I mean, when you were a kid hearing about crazy brutal events in the news and on TV, was your first thought not to think about the victims, putting yourself in their shoes? As I've aged, I usually stay away from this type of stuff, but when I was a child, I'd experience secondhand fear, bewilderment, sadness, etc. plus nervously think of what I'd have done. Stuff like defending myself if possible, running if possible, and playing dead all came to mind. What were you thinking when you were a kid watching a docu on a heinous, violent crime?

instincts are amazing

She be built different

i'm still can't believe how strong she's.. imagine your feet hacked by machete and kicked around but you stay still and doesn't scream to be pretend dead is hard enough

@@jephxiii3159 Fully agree, at that age she did something most adults would probably fail at. She is a survivor and not just by chance. I like to roll my eyes with many people stating for many people "oh so strong" but this is a prime example of where words don't easily scale up to her actions.

He's not necessarily claiming he's tough here. It's more boastful. He's saying to that person "you'd be surprised how sick and twisted I am; i'm capable of doing the unthinkable with no remorse" . The mere fact he can kill a defenceless sleeping mother and attempt to kill her young child proves it.

Huh

I'm honestly just impressed how you used every "their/there/they're" in the correct way

@@ishish8816 I always have to wonder why these people think that's something to boast about, while it really just means you're stunted. It's like bragging that you can't see because your eyes never developed.

I can’t imagine their stay in prison would be very long at all.

I’m curious. Is that the same god that psycho Chris was serving? He was a Mormon. Ever think that religion did this to him? Religious people commit most crimes by default in USA because 71% of Americans are Christian’s. . Ps her “family” is half dead. Your god didn’t bless the family. I will never understand people asking a god on social media or here to bless them after the fact your god didn’t and one of them is dead. The kid barely survived because of her own instincts and bravery. Not some god blessing her

I think most adults are stronger than her and smarter than her

@@bornstar481 What would we do without your input, thanks Bornstar481!

​@@bornstar481 Your comment along with the four people that have liked it. Proves how far society has truly fallen!

that's a fucked sentence...please rethink the phrasing

The judge said at Gribbles' sentencing that, "Infinity is not enough jail time for you." I agree. I'd love to see him suffer immeasurably.

@@dkelly26666 This is what will happen to these scum in the afterlife, where they will punished eternally in hell because of their deeds.

@@knarkzel2006 they need to suffer while alive too not just in the afterlife

@@beidouenjoyer6192 There's no need to because the punishment for murderers in this life is the death punishment. In the afterlife, the punishment is far more severe than you could possibly ever think of.

life in prison, while not enough, is definitely satisfying for them. once fellow prisoners get notice of what this piece of shit did he's gonna get tortured in there😭😭

The punchable face clan

So many of EWU's presentations show teens and their thrill-seeking, blood-curdling choices, their lack of purpose, their corrupt material values, and their lack of supervision. As EWU points out, the prefrontal lobe of the brain is not developed yet and so they are lethal weapons driving around looking for excitement. It doesn't look good for this country.

This is why I keep a firearm locked up at home and lock all my doors. You just never know

​@@TheNoSuchThingPodcast yup. My piece is next to my bed, and my dog will alert me if anyone he doesn't know enters.

@@TheNoSuchThingPodcast I don’t blame you for feeling that way. Some people out there are actual monsters.

@@lucasRem-ku6eb ?????????????????????

Agreed.

We've had several murders in our family and it's horrible but what's worse is thinking/imagining what their final moments were like. All of the murders were planned except for one and one cold case. Everyone except for one received life without parole.

100% agreed

@@memerichardson104 I'm so sorry u had to go through that

She probably thought they just wanted money. But then they started brutally murdering her.

He's talking so calmly about such a heinous act. What in the world.

@@carrieowen5895 Thats your typical sociopath/psycho... Not all are like that in terms of DESIRE to complete those actions... but granted...IT DOES HAPPEN.... Your average psycho or sociopath will feel absolutely nothing in recalling it or even making the story up... dare i say they may even crack a laugh at how "normally" wired people have a reaction to something thats so "minimal" from their perspective. (sociopath mentality)("Its just a blood filled meat sack that stopped working because the brain..a smaller meat sack stopped working after it was hit too much....whats so surprising about that? we all will die someday anyway..death isn't a big deal") I once talked about a legit quora post about a baby who was shot in the head by accident by a stray bullet from a sniper with a father holding his dead little girl in tears..He commited suicide a while later. It had an actual photo for it too(Holding his dead baby girl) To my surprise her reaction was "lol". She was hot but that lack of empathy turned me off and showed me who she was...later i asked directly in a respectful manner if she was a sociopath...she admitted she was to me but gave me bs about shes "different" moral of the story is...IF YOU THINK someone is a sociopath...regardless of who they are... STAY AWAY FROM THEM. GET AWAY

@@carrieowen5895 Psychos and Sociopaths aren't mostly killers but they WILL throw you under the bus when its CONVENIENT and will not hesitate to be a BURDEN or let someone commit atrocities to you. Between you(a long staning friend or lover Vs the "WINNER") They will choose the WINNER who can share that win them everytime. They know how we think and they know how the average Joe THINKS how THEY THINK... they know that we know they can't feel empathy... Yet they will still try to gather empathy from us for them lacking it. They will use their own psycho/sociopath traits to garner empathy/sympathy from normally wired people who they think are LOYAL They have NO LOYALTY at all and VALUES are just a matter of CONVENIENCE. NEVER be friends with one if you know someone is one. STAY AWAY & be surprised at nothing they do. Always expect the worse from them and be on your P's & Q's even if your life isn't at stake. Mostly it isn't around them.

Was about to have to stop watching the video after that. The most disturbing interrogation video I've seen so far.

Agreed like his daughter he'll need a lot of therapy, my heart goes to them and their families

True, but the reality of it all is that had he been home (armed or not) and jumped in his sleep, he probably would have been dead too, leaving poor Jamie to be parentless. These pieces of garbage went into that house expecting to kill everyone, so his being out of town was a stroke of luck, if not a divine intervention. Jamie still has a dad and that will help a lot.

Quite a grim "best ending" to the situation

Window air conditioners suck

I'm not finished listening to this, but the thought of the dad being involved crossed my mind. If the dad was involved, why haven't any of they said this hoping to save themselves.

But not all of them have the urge to steal and kill.

That’s a horrible advice by your landlord 😮

good!!👏 this one truly terrifies me because they cut the alarm system 😢 makes me wish i had several guard dogs along with other security measures.. also.. maybe bedrooms need to literally be made into a panic room or something.. im so scared! 😭

The saddest thing is to die from a sick fuck that contributes nothing to society just because his sick mind wanted to kill someone

​​@@KatK2 I was thinking in the bedroom have an escape to a bookcase that opens to a safe space secret room.

I lived in Venice, in CA, and we would have people try our door every time there was a blackout. It's Los Angles, so there are always blackouts, and more when there are earthquakes. they would not just try the lock, an walk away, they would really work on it. I LOVE my benelli m3 shotgun. You slide the action, and the door knob stops jiggling. Ask why I lived in low income housing? $500/month for a 2 bedroom place, 5 blocks from the beach.

Damn what happened if you don’t mind me asking?

So sorry you had to go through that.

I was 12 when I saw my best friends step father kill him self shot gun to the head. Till this day at 35 years old I can still see every detail of what happen. Her mother was in the middle of a divorce and he was a horrible man and he actually held them hostage and was going to kill them also but some how they got out and I was walking over there and had no clue what was happening I walked in and looked at him the moment he sat in that chair with a big white wall behind him and did it. And i hate the nights when I have dreams about it. It’s so sad what happened to this child and what you saw and wen through😢 when you were 11. This child was definitely was very strong.

I saw a drive by shooting unfold when I was 17, people were running and screaming in every direction. It was like something from the movies

Really?

A memory that will last forever. No child should have to go through. God bless her little soul ❤✝️

Imaginer the dad/husband coming home and finding out about the savage slain ordeal to his loved ones. He must be under tremendous guilt for not having repaired the house alarm system!

I looked her name up on Google… there are a couple videos from the local news with updates on Jaimie. She seems to be doing well now! I’m sure she’s still haunted by her past, but the best revenge is a life well lived, and she seems to be doing that.

4 nearly grown men cant even finish a little girl and now gets put into cages with real animals gl fellas karma is a bitch... to scared to fight someone their own size so they rape and kill kids instead and abuse woman whos weaker then men lets hope they get F'ed in jail

It's not "Poor Jamie", This brave girl will live with this the rest of her life she is a victim of a crime but no "victim" wants to be treated or thought of as so. It's Jamie, an amazingly brave and strong girl who became a victor over the ones who brought her so much pain.

Boils down to politics. New Hampshire predominantly favors Democrats. Democrats are generally opposed to the death penalty and are softer on crime in general.

The law that allows for parole was based on crimes committed by kids under 18 and the fact that their brains are not fully formed. Sadly, these four being under 18 are allowed the same law, but I can assure you that each time they come up for parole and the board reviews their crime, they’ll be sent right back to their cell. Sociopaths don’t improve, their personality disorder only gets worse when surrounded by like minds.

@@RLFinTX ah yeah good point. I keep somehow forgetting that these idiots were all under 18 when this occurred.

@@RLFinTX Did they say Chris was 18? Can't recall but I think that's what I remember, in which case that wouldn't apply to him at the very least. Assuming I'm not mixing his age up with one of the others.

The Death Penalty should have been applied 5 seconds after they entered the house!!

You probably would have. Which is why the phrase ''Sir, this is a Wendy's" is in your vocab as an 'oft used phrase'..lmfao

​@@BillyBobGoneFishing And your comment history on this channel just paints you as the smartest person ever doesn't it

@@BillyBobGoneFishingprojecting much?

​@@BillyBobGoneFishing go get some help

@@BillyBobGoneFishingGo fishing, Billy Bob

They should. He's complete garbage and inhuman.

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@@aftertheheadlines Doesn't matter, the other 3 testified.

Heck if he was having 10% of my feelings currently he'd wanted to give them a potato treatment. Good potatoes are ridden of any extremities, skinned, stabbed (so the salt gets absorbed better) and then boiled til done! And I didn't even have to talk to these insectoids. It's likely, however, he wouldn't have gotten the job if he was having 10% of these feelings. Great, now I feel bad as I should.

Well said. ❤

i feel so bad for both of them :( She lost her mom that day and Kimberly lose her daughter, the dad lost his wife and almost his daughter as well... i bet the parents both feel really bad guilt but they shouldn't... I hope she rests at peace and was able to find out that her daughter survived in the after life

@abby i googled thid case after watching the video to see the trial video's. Jamie has some videos too and she seems to be doing really great and seems happy , loved, going to school, into sports... it's nice to see and hear... despite everything. I really hope her mother sees her daughter doing so well.

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Every mother knows that’s ALL she was thinking and worrying about.

i googled her name and her instagram popped up. her and her father seem to be doing very well now 🙏 so strong

they sold the jewelry they stole..... was stated multiple times.... but they also said themselves they were going to kill anyone if they were home when they tried went to do the burglary. They went to rob the home and kill if the opportunity presented itself.... did you even watch the video??

@rawnoon1616 uh yeah I did. It literally says they left all the valuables they stole in the woods and dumped it in the river. Did you even watch the video?

@@Oswald_Thatendswald they kinda did state multiple times they pawned the jewellery for money to buy weed(?). They threw the bloody clothes into the river, not the jewellery

@@Oswald_Thatendswald maybe the intention was to rob, but since they found people alive they changed their goals, so the jewelry meant less to them

He also looks like he has a lot of pimples.

She honestly sounds like an average mom. Obviously whooping your children is not socially acceptable, but people don't become murderers out of it.

What an opinion from a simp human.

Even after he saw this little girls severed foot, knowing only true evil could do that to such innocence, he still went in to try and help whoever else might be alive. Truly courageous, serving to protect.

Yea saw that video & mny more including casey antony one. Ur comment & the one who replied to u...one f the very few sane ones here. Thank u for calming my nerves. 1:29:42 When u fly far above & take a broad view......appears the united states of asses is working very VERY hard to make life easier for rapis.ts, murderers,serial killers & such very beautifully glorious breeds. While this glorious group is growing & thriving ..even children,teens are growing stronger within this group to do their killing,maiming,rap.s etc...whil thts happening..seems ur govt,adults,males,,females are becoming sewage creatures wth zero integrity,zero boldness,massive cowards, dsgstng& evolving into a sewage group & almost spit worthy softies. Well done! ...oh yea usa leads but closely followed by the gr8est puss. group...'canadians' & brits. I feel incredible that once u guys used to lead! 🤮. Go fr it u...umm..dont kno wt word to call u. & most retards here are seriously dscussing 'details' & jokes in the comments section wthout calling fr a serious fightback. Sigh. Kudos u fks. Keep going & make more easier laws & dscuss celebs lik kardasians & pathetic superhero & other fake fks in marvel world,dc world with feverish argumnts instd 👏👏👏. I feel ur collective doom & end is certain! Nay it shall be accelerated! Total wipeout,total anihillation . Sick group! Didnt mean u...jst to those effs ,those sewage rats who r rotting away,gnawing away! ur beautiful &once strong,bold countries!

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I agree, I have no respect for cops who put their own safety above victims. They signed up for a job that risks their life. If they don’t want to do their job, they shouldn’t pretend they do. It shouldn’t just be about them flexing their power.

I know hun so sad

@@RyanT301 "hun?'

@@slocumb1270short for honey. Term of endearment. People from the southern US use similar terms often, with no offense meant or (usually) taken.

​@@calliopec544 also a huge term of endearment in Baltimore City, but with a very funky accent on it. Entering Baltimore from the South, there is a sign on I95 that says "Welcome To Baltimore" but people often paint "Hon " at the end. I even lived next to Cafe Hon.

@@slocumb1270 😂😂😂

I agree with your comment wholeheartedly. I am a mother as well and what these cowardly Peter pans did is unforgivable. It breaks my heart to think of her mother's last moments.

@@PsycheDismantledHer terror for her daughter would have been shocking . She would have been begging that they leave her daughter.

​@@BlackStump172 derp

One wasn't even a woman, it was a child.

@@SarahAbramova derpy do

damn thats a good point

It’s all I can think about. I feel so much for her and her dad trying to move forward from here. I cannot imagine the agony. God bless them. I hope they find peace and some .. no… abundant joy in this life in their future. I don’t understand violence as fun. It is horrible. Maybe I watch all this true crime to understand and attempt to avoid it. Although there’s not one thing that family could have done differently bless them.

​@@commonsense571 I would never want to kill anyone, but the idea of killing a mom in front of her kid...hearing them both cry out to each other...that's an entirely different thing all together. Genuinely can not fathom doing that, and there is no punishment severe enough for this crime

yeah lets not overreact here

This is why incest is bad. A good majority of serial killers have incest somewhere along the line.

why the girl only tho? the mom had it much worse until she died. I don't understand how people value a child more than a parent, an elderly person more than a 30 year old, both were defenseless here , both had no strength. I find it disgusting if there are 2 victims that people pity the one person but not the other only because they aren't "so cute and innocent" anymore....

Sometimes not speaking his mid straight to murderers are great strategies

@@korettopun1203 I know, but when the evidence is overwhelming enough and considering he probably knows that his friends spilt the beans already, it must have felt good to just roast him.

@@lihboidasanstr8fyre228 the murderers?

@@agitatedmolecule yup

@@lihboidasanstr8fyre228 Ah yes, murdering an innocent mother and attempting to murder a little girl is of course commonly known to be badassery /s. If you think what this coward did is badass, you need therapy.

I've been thinking how is it possible that Steven grown up in such a loving family but turned put to be a sociopathic killer. Is it possible that his brain didn't develop properly wheh he was still in his addicted mother's uterus? Can you confirm that his adoptive family was a caring, loving family, they didn't abuse him or something?

Has he been made not alive yet 🙏🙏🙏🙏

its "hakenkreuz" or hooked cross not swastika.

Cap

​@@1415gatewayable that doesnt sound crazy at all 😭

He should have stayed with her.

@@wadewilson1312 He did, until another one arrived. You can't just stop the world when someone else may be in the house and possibly be saved. He didn't know that at the time, that she was already dead, but you have to check as soon as possible if there's any chance of saving a life.

Yeah it's such a neat little detail the developers put in. They didn't have to but they did, very immersive detail

@@graylyhen9490LMAO

where?

It is extremely troubling but you're right. Sometimes nothing can be done.

Exactly. At the end of the day, it’s not only about getting help, but actually WANTING to get helped.

Some people are born evil, proof of it through the ages.

Yup. It’s a sad state of affairs that we COULD stop kids from killing if it was a priority. But the juvenile justice system, child welfare system, and adolescent mental healthcare system is so ineffective, that it fails everyone. Us parents of mentally Ill children are chastised by the community when our kid does something terrible, but when we tried to do something when something could be done we are denied, we are given ridiculous options, we are offered counseling for US. I don’t need counseling. I need my child to get intensive inpatient help, and I need for that to be more easily accessible. I was told that my child who was at risk of killing herself from overdose had to “consent” to inpatient treatment. But doctors need my permission to give her a flu shot. Make it make sense.

@@omnigar9611Yup, the whole “nature vs nurture” debate is dumb- and I think it’s OFFICIALLY been proven that’s it’s both (aka “nature VIA nurture”) or something along those lines. Sometimes no matter how good of a parent you are, you’re child may just be predisposed to be a horrible person by nature

His mother also abused him and he was isolated. That's why he was weird

@@taramay8174 this almost sounds like an excuse, though im assuming you didn't mean to type it as such

@@taramay8174 grew up with an abusive parent, I have always been weird. But I still manage to make friends and be likeable. Also I don’t kill little children. No excuses

@@OfTheCoast1234567 Thank you for saying that. Being abused doesn't give the excuse to kill innocent lives, neither does it mean those who have been abused want to kill.

@@OfTheCoast1234567 same BUT I still think these conversations are important. Not as an excuse but as a rationale for why it’s so important to understand how dangerous abuse is. You and I are lucky and got away and bettered ourselves instead. But there are many who also don’t make it out. On the bright side, I’m glad so many people are able to break the cycle and have more help to understand what abuse has done to them BEFORE they get to this extreme. You and I didn’t have a lot going of help or community dealing with abuse. Mental health accessibility is what keeps people from hurting themselves or others. So let’s continue breaking that cycle!

👏 I would vote for that.

Seems too kind to me

Exactly what I was thinking !

So true. They would have been Dexters victims. They fit his code to a t.

however, this is second or third time I have heard of murders, where the murderers describe their addition to the movie, "Dexter". Maybe some movies do cross the line and could affect certain minds to act out. Young people today see so much violence in movies etc. The first horror movie I watch was when I was 21 years old. I remember the movie did disturb my mind for weeks, I still remember the movie, "The house where evil dwells". And it was just a couple of scenes with heads being chopped off...nothing compared to movies today! These two young guys are pretty much dead, as they will get out. It is over for them. All the violence they watched may have had a roll in their behavior....???

Dexter killed bsd ppl

@@Dan-xx5jq Dexter was a TV show that aired a little over a decade ago. The Protagonist, Dexter, would often lace his victims in a Tranquilizer and kidnap them to an isolated area to kill them cleanly with a knife. Dexter, despite being a blood analyst, was very clean with his killings, spilling few blood. He was also aware that despite being a Serial Killer who kills only people who are Killers, he still considered himself a Monstrous being who deserves Death. It seems like the Murderers here only love the idea of Dexter, but never paid attention to the series.

Yes, these dudes have some screws loose in their heads.....rattling and rattling.....

God? LOL

​@@EmeraldViewGod's not real. I'm so smarter than you... So sad.

​@@EmeraldView The idea of God can't be wrapped around a incompetent mind, aka you

@@EmeraldView grow up edgelord lmao some people find comfort in religion and some people don't --- both are fine