I never did I think, devouring mother and enabling trash father. I feel like I don't exist in fact and was told multiple times by other people that it feels like I'm a ghost who does not occupy space.

That is how diamonds are made 💎 ​@slq4358

I was 20 when I finally stepped out. It's been 3 years since and I've had more personal development in those 3 years then the entire previous 20.

God bless him 🙏

Me too ❤

This was so real I can imagine it being my first conscious moment

I remember a light bulb directly over my head. It was bright

idk what u guys are talking abt but its very simple to feel that way. It isn't something special...

@@domename it is to you. You like yourself first

You found your flow :D

Interesting ☺️

This is the best story in this comment section 💪

❤

He was truly one of a kind ☺️

Of course he looks through you, how else is he supposed to talk to your soul

Well said 🙏

@@yankeesfan7052 something most humans don’t aspire to

poetic :)

And wondering why I see a shadow at night.

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I find that hard to believe. The lack of humbleness in your language is a testament to your unobjective view of yourself and your environment. Also you saying "I had to be something, good, smart, likeable..." reinforces, that you always identified with a socially assigned quality, which is not really aligned with discovering "The true self".

@Talks_with_the_Greats Disagreeing with one man's ideas as a matter of experience is not a conceit. I shared my honest experience after seriously trying to examine if I had such an experience and what that might be. Your inflammatory accusation of arrogance is rather ridiculous and disappointing. I had hoped that you had some insight or information that could show I had misunderstood Junge's meaning. Instead you insulted me. Furthermore, I completely discredit the idea that one must be amoral or else they are incapable of finding the true self; that's a rather inept metaphysical opinion. People are moral by nature, to greater or lesser degrees, and may perceive moral value more or less clearly than others, some sooner... others later. For myself, I was always aware of my self, my feelings, thoughts (interior life), and accountability... to be good and do good. And to that, point, further I reject the idea that morality is purely subjective. Subjective and objective morality have different sources, but they grow up in the same field (man).

​@@Talks_with_the_Greats Pompous, aren't ya?

​@@Talks_with_the_Greats No need to be rude. I don't have any such experience, either.

@@Mr.Turkentine im pompous for being doubtful about him always being conscious?

Who said that?

Well, you can be proud of yourself, it's a good quote ☺️

@@UstaJin it wasn't ironic 🤨

@@Talks_with_the_Greats No, I know it's kinda stupid but I perceived your question like " Carl Jung doesn't say that "

it's alright mate :)

True ☺️

@@Talks_with_the_Greats I'm not so sure.

@@Monaghan3000... it does not mean, that your body shall be taken away from you. It refers more to the idea that your existence itself is somehow beyond that, and beyond the mind, the inhabits the body:)

Great story!

I’m perplexed. How can you learn spacial awareness, language, use of cutlery, the names of your mother and father. But not reach self awareness 🫤 🤔

One can function on autopilot for a very long time 🤷‍♂️

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@@Talks_with_the_Greats these men are God's on earth they have found their place on earth they have found ther purpose and step in it and ready fo ascension and they have no fear of death but they are ready for the next level of birth were they rime with the universe ☀️

Oh wow 😊

Interesting ☺️

Yes

Sometimes you have to show. You r self. Who is. But lots of is people. They don't expect so you have to make the paths

@@songpectol8406 what?

That's pretty young 👍

He's a good person 💯

interesting :)

Maybe you should talk about it in an interview

Interesting ☺️

Cool 😎

Interesting ☺️

🧢

@@ryanpowell9003 why do you think he's lying?

@@Talks_with_the_Greats developed consciousness before learning to speak... Sounds like ego to me The more people act like they have it "figured out", typically the less they know

@@ryanpowell9003 i agree with you very much. I also loved your "Bro made up his mind in the womb" comment. Shared it with a friend of mine and we had a good laugh. That dude seemed pretentious AF.

Very true 👍

Interesting ☺️

It was a Tibetan, Lama Ganga, George Lucas saw him a number of times. Tibetan syntax and grammar is such that the subject comes last eg 'much anger have you' etc. Lama Ganga was teaching a lot on Buddhism in California at that time

@@RJ-cs9gz interesting :)

That's pretty early

@@Talks_with_the_Greats i rememeber I was sticking a cross into snow..

There's being aware of yourself and there's being aware of your mind. I think there's a difference and many don't get to the second stage 🤷‍♂️

3 years old is when you start forming long-lasting memories. Consciousness develops slowly all the way even till around 25 years old. He was 11, when it developed enough for him to start focusing on his own consciousness. Thinking about your own consciousness isn't needed in any part of life. Animals do fine without it.

I know right. I think I was like 3! And then four years old, for sure.

@@dearmamajj exactly, about 4

Interesting 🤔

Yeah 👍

Society created to surpress human evolution.

What?

Some don't gain it until they're adults :D

Love you too ☺️

Some don't for their entire lives.

Its okay to be a looser .

@@PAIN_961 🖤

Yeah well, for me it was at the age of 22 when I burned out and really reconsidered many things about how I lived my life and who I wanted to be. It's different for everyone thought 🤗

⁠@@Talks_with_the_Greats 22? 22 was the age that you first felt consciousness of your own individual self? I’ll be honest. The interviewer didn’t articulate the question that well. I want to know what exactly he meant by the question. Because obviously you realised that you are separate from other people before the age of 22. What you’re probably referring to, I assume, is seeing your unconscious self (shadow) that is in the unconscious mind. You had some sort of awakening to your shadow self and the unconscious you at 22 years of age when you burned out. I’m not entirely sure if that is what the interviewer meant or even what the answer Carl gave was about. He stepped out of a mist and was suddenly able to differentiate himself from things, instead of being one of many things. He realised “I am, I am what I am.” What does he mean by his statements, he didn’t say he realised his unconscious self was there. He didn’t say he seen the other half of him. He said I am what I am. What does he mean by that exactly? It sounds like a statement of resignation to the fact that he is himself and that he has to accept it. He doesn’t say I am what I choose to be. Or I am awareness. Would have preferred a better worded question and a deeper answer. Maybe he is saying that he became aware of his own nature/self identity and prior to that he was on autopilot. Just living with no awareness of his own nature or self identity. I think this confusion explains the drastic difference in answers. With some saying it happens at a very early age, some saying 4, 7, 10, 15, 22 etc. Some even saying they were born aware. There’s confusion about what was meant by the interviewers question. Depending on what the interviewer meant by the question I would have a different answer. If he means when did I realise I was separate from others it would be a completely different answer to when did I become fully conscious of the shadow or when did I stop living on autopilot and suddenly become aware that I existed as a being with a self identity in the world. What do you think?

I liked the autopilot line you used the most. For me I realized, that I wasn't living life the way I wanted to and I couldn't articulate why. After the age of 22 I completely took my career into my own hands, even changing sectors, stopped pursuing my degree, stopped with my addictions, embarked on a journey to find God, etc. Yeah, of course I was aware I was separate from others, and I think so was Jung till the age of 11 and he just phrased it weirdly. But I still operated to a large degree on autopilot of what others wanted me to do and what I thought was expected of me. For me "gaining consciousnesses" meant becoming painfully aware of my own thoughts, emotions and desires and being able to understand their purpose and origin and deciding what to do based on that understanding. I had been "conscious" prior to that, sure, but looking at it from today's point of view, it just doesn't feel like it 😄

@@Talks_with_the_Greats I guess it’s a matter of definition and it all depends what the interviewer meant and what Carl meant. If it means to question your own identity and maybe even question your reality then I was about 27. Similarly to you there was a series of negative events that led to deep introspection. Until eventually you question why you are the way you are, then you observe your own identity from a third person, and you can find the causality of your own identity, and observe the various roles you play to others. Then you can work towards being who you are, your true self that is aligned with your true values and who you want to be, instead of playing roles unconsciously. It doesn’t work well for others. They want you to play your role as you always have. So there is problems that come with it. Maybe even major conflict, as you try be you and not an unconsciously operating role. I think the basic way of explaining it is, you become aware of how you operate and maybe even why you operate the way you do. Whereas before, you’re not aware or interested in being aware of these things, you’re just living. You’re right, it feels like you were a robot before. A wind up toy that got turned and is just moving as a result of the winding of the mechanism. No thought or computation involved. A more instinctual existence based on learned behaviour and catering to others. Whereas after you question who you are and why you do the things you do, you become thoughtful, there is computation and thought involved in your actions. Or at least, most of them. A more logical, reasonable existence based on self knowledge.

No, first self-awareness of his consciousness. It's usually around this age the cerebral cortex has developed enough for the brain to focus on itself.

@@lukkkasz323 you know, this is bizarre to me. I remember being able to focus on my own consciousness since I was at most six.

@@GottfriedLeibnizYT Perhaps you could do it earlier or perhaps we have different difinitions. For example medical definition is completely different. Personally I never had a single moment like that, it's just slowly developed and whenever I look at my past self I just feel "I was so unaware back then, how was I able to survive day after day, and yet I could". I remember that I wasn't focusing on my self-awareness a lot, yet I remember functioning completely normally besides that. Religion is a fun example. I remember questioning it the most around 12-13 years old, probably the most tiresome hours of a day for me every once in a while. Nowadays I'm 21. I almost never think about religion anymore, I already have all the answers and the ones I don't, I'll never get. The question is - why didn't it happen sooner? Or later? I think that would be a part of the development of consciousness that Jung is thinking about. Not just understanding self in relation to others, but self in relation to self. Hence "I am what I am".

Why the annoying comment?

I Loved the music

What do you mean?

😂

@@Talks_with_the_Greats he “stepped out of a mist”

Right 😄

Do you think so?

Yes

What do you mean?

@@Talks_with_the_Greats umm 🤔 trama sin done to you at your youngest non remembered image that connect when known Sin... like stealing at your knowing it's wrong and deliberately did anyway that is Another Type of Sin, in which activated the trama sin thus the life cycle Karma is born

I don't get it

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@Talks_with_the_GreatsI think what Maria is saying is that when someone sins against you and causes trauma at a young age, but you do not consciously remember it, when you then commit a sin yourself, such as stealing, which you know is wrong, this activates the earlier buried unconscious trauma memory and the karma cycle is born

@@Talks_with_the_Greats I think she is saying that having a traumatic sin done to you at a young age that you cannot remember, then later in life the act of committing a known sin consciously by choice activates that unconscious traumatic sin and with it, awareness of the unconscious

Where's that from? 😊

Why are you being so nasty?

@@Talks_with_the_Greats he is ridiculous. Resonate with literally no one today. Why are you posting old school foolishness?

Why are you speaking when no one is interested?

@@Talks_with_the_Greats why are you so annoyed with my comments. You think “talking” with the so called “greats” would love and actual conversation albeit via txt. 🤔

Oh no, I'm not annoyed. I'm just surprised you don't see your own irrelevance.

That's not true

If you’re going to make those statements at least back it up with your reasoning

Precisely 💪

True 🙏