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When Martha Jones Joined Torchwood

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Harbo Wholmes

Harbo Wholmes

Күн бұрын

Despite being a Doctor Who spinoff, Torchwood rarely acknowledged or interacted with its parent show. However, this all changed with Series 2 Episode 6: Reset, which sees none other than former Doctor Who companion Martha Jones cross paths with the Torchwood team. But is this story about medical trials and evil science any good?
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@HarboWholmes
@HarboWholmes 3 жыл бұрын
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@thatonedude
@thatonedude 3 жыл бұрын
I can request a video right here. Lmao hello! Yes! Videos!
@PwnZombie
@PwnZombie 3 жыл бұрын
@@thatonedude yes but he’s under no obligation to even read it here
@jvblhc
@jvblhc 3 жыл бұрын
I've always been a Martha Jones fan. She could travel with The Doctor, stop off at Torchwood for a few episodes, get a job at UNIT, pop back in the Donna Nobel series... It's a shame Freema Agyeman bowed out of Doctor Who before being in Torchwood: Children of Earth and the Sarah Jane Adventure "Enemy of the Bane". She was a versatile character who could fit just about anywhere in the Doctor Who Universe. This was a good episode, and the next two, although not specifically about Martha, are also superb.
@i_am_tomatosoup
@i_am_tomatosoup 3 жыл бұрын
Martha never got the recognition she deserved, though I feel like some of the writing was at fault for that. It's a pretty common criticism, but the whole 'unrequited love drama' with the Doctor really does narrow the scope of some of the more Martha-centric stories. Despite that, I still think she was absolutely one of the best new Who companions by a long shot, and her presence in all the RTD era shows really makes them all feel like they're part of the same universe.
@jvblhc
@jvblhc 3 жыл бұрын
@@i_am_tomatosoup Martha's crush on The Doctor didn't bother me much. The Doctor's treatment of her bothered me. So once an episode or so, Martha would pine for the Doctor. Then she'd go back to what she normally does - save The Doctor, save the world... the usual Martha stuff.
@detectivejonesw
@detectivejonesw 3 жыл бұрын
She was my favourite companion
@jacobat6455
@jacobat6455 3 жыл бұрын
I think it was a really nice touch to add Freema Agyeman's name to the opening.
@patchworkfellow
@patchworkfellow 3 жыл бұрын
5:29 _“[Ianto] can’t exactly clean up his own dead body”_ I mean, if *anyone* could do it…
@shadowcat5939
@shadowcat5939 3 жыл бұрын
Why does Ianto feel like the type of person who would be more upset about the mess than the fact that he was shot
@CashelOConnolly
@CashelOConnolly 3 жыл бұрын
As long as she wasn’t wetting herself over the Doctor or Jack just the same way as Rose did
@DanTheMan2150AD
@DanTheMan2150AD 3 жыл бұрын
I love how much Martha grew as a character over the course of the show, but this is probably my favourite appearance by her in the whole of NuWho.
@thomasburn3247
@thomasburn3247 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, other people prefer Rose but Martha is easily one of my favourite characters
@fortunate4260
@fortunate4260 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing the word "doctor" in a torchwood review and having it not be related to the time lord is weird.
@expialadoshuas
@expialadoshuas 3 жыл бұрын
Ngl these Torchwood reviews are fantastic to have going in the background if you've seen all of Torchwood. Thanks for making these!
@Daniel_leading_the_13_Plateans
@Daniel_leading_the_13_Plateans 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for waters of mars I like it just as much as midnight
@hermiona1147
@hermiona1147 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite special
@lucypreece7581
@lucypreece7581 3 жыл бұрын
I always liked Martha in Doctor Who so it is nice having her in Torchwood. This is a solid episode. Cool premise, decent pacing and shock twist ending with Owen's death.
@erinella
@erinella 3 жыл бұрын
You'll never hear me complain about more Martha content 😝 I love the wee talk she has with Ianto, however it also brings up one of my main problems with the show. Throughout the entire series it was like nobody knew what the hell they wanted to do with Jack and Ianto. In They Keep Killing Suzie it's implied that they're sleeping together. Then we get their kiss in End of Days. Then theres the question of a date in Kiss, Kiss Bang Bang and you think the relationship is going somewhere but then Jack is making eyes with Gwen in Meat and when asked in Reset Ianto says that they "dabble" as if they're just sleeping together again. Then don't get me started on the tomfoolery at the end of Something Borrowed. It's so confused and mixed up which is such a shame because the audience love Jack and Ianto's relationship even if it was represented so badly.
@KeySnow
@KeySnow 2 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah the Ianto Jack relation seemed to change depending to the writer and the episode. Also there was the weirdness with the term couple in CoE. Meanwhile the big finish stuff definitely went the 'their in a full normal relation' route.
@nextstop-everywhere
@nextstop-everywhere Жыл бұрын
I've recently started watching Torchwood and the only thing I knew about it was Jack and Ianto's relationship. I was not prepared for the atrocious lack of build up or chemistry and the weird flirting he does with Gwen (I know he's a flirty guy but it doesn't fit) and I'm rather disappointed about how it's playing out. I expected better writing I guess.
@littlefox7694
@littlefox7694 Жыл бұрын
​@@nextstop-everywhere if you listen to the Torchwood audio "Broken" it explains some of the nuances of Jack and Ianto's relationship, but I personally love what they did with it in the show, where it's just a subtle thing on the background and you never really know whats going on between them because you aren't supposed to know. It's not the focus of the series and shouldn't be. Ianto isn't the main character, even Jack isn't. Gwen is. So it's pretty logical that her flirting with Jack is in the focus, while Ianto and Jack are private and keep to themselves. The gentle way it was portrayed is lovely and leaves a lot to speculate upon. My personal view of it is that they started as just having sex with each other, later began to develop feelings for each other but were too afraid to address them which leads to some absolutely adorable moments.
@TheSmart-CasualGamer
@TheSmart-CasualGamer 3 жыл бұрын
The interaction between Martha and Gwen is brilliant, and is one of my favourite bits of interaction in the whole series.
@troperhghar9898
@troperhghar9898 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Martha could have been in children of earth
@macra_
@macra_ 3 жыл бұрын
That space china line really got me 😂
@jbcatz5
@jbcatz5 3 жыл бұрын
Martha’s alias of Samantha Jones is a reference to the BBC Eighth Doctor Adventures novels, where the first new companion was Samantha “Sam” Jones. She was around for the first third of the series, but because there was no clear vision on who she was as a character beyond teenage 90’s eco she doesn’t stand out much as a character. Her backstory and alternate version is interesting though, as her bio data was reworked to make her the ideal companion, teased in Alien Bodies and expanded on in Unnatural History. The storyline she departs in gets pretty wild, actually retconning a TV story by changing the circumstances of the Third Doctor’s regeneration.
@jdg9825
@jdg9825 3 жыл бұрын
Always liked how the contact lenses introduced for an episodic plot here went on to be crucial plot devices for both serials
@Pacmanfan-po9rn
@Pacmanfan-po9rn 3 жыл бұрын
I am so glad we got to see more of Martha, seriously love herm
@matthewhenthorn3343
@matthewhenthorn3343 3 жыл бұрын
Martha's obscured backstory feels right to me. Yes torchwood is a spin off from Dr Who but does it need to feel like a hanging piece of the main show, rattling in the winds of the BBC budget? I don't think so. Unless Gwenn is very aware of the Doctor, then it's not ment to be given more than a passing reference. Jack has met many people throughout his long life, and not everyone is going to get character depth. It feels to me like the mandalorian: it's not going to dive in and hope you know what they are on about. It gives you enough context within the show that you feel like the main character. Half the major characters in the universe are mere legends or stories. It gives you a window into the main universe without relying on the knowledge there in.
@Scottow
@Scottow 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda think it’s weird that Martha is a better doctor than Owen considering he was an established doctor before torchwood and Martha had her education pushed through early by unit
@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051
@thevfxmancolorizationvfxex4051 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you do a review on a Sarah Jane Adventures episode next
@danster29onxbox
@danster29onxbox 3 жыл бұрын
Bit late to say this now, but you mentioned you were binging the hustle last video. Would love to see you review the episodes. It's a great show and you do such good reviews, they'd work together perfectly
@aceryax3884
@aceryax3884 3 жыл бұрын
Is that the classic BBC series or are you referring to a different one?
@shadowcat5939
@shadowcat5939 3 жыл бұрын
I love that your title makes it sound like you are gonna just dunk on the episode and than you give it an A rank
@evanhanley6437
@evanhanley6437 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was a brilliant idea to bring Martha onto the show. I really liked this episode.
@JosephDickson
@JosephDickson 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved series two and bringing in Freema Agyeman and wish she stayed on through Children of Earth. Hoverer, her career was skyrocketing at this time so I don't blame her for leaving the Whoverse behind. 😉
@caitlynmarie2677
@caitlynmarie2677 2 жыл бұрын
Torchwood has this sneaky little dark side to it where it gives you something you didn’t even know you wanted and love (Martha Jones at Torchwood and her fantastic science nerd chemistry with Owen) end then they crush you by setting the whole thing on fire (happy Owen having a perfect new friend only to die and come back to suffer more than he ever imagined possible…) I love how Torchwood gives you a high only to cruelly take it away. It’s darkness and realistic cruelty of life is impossible for me to resist.
@RobertShippey
@RobertShippey 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best episodes of Torchwood
@VeracityLH
@VeracityLH 2 жыл бұрын
I can just imagine Martha dying in this episode and the Doctor showing up in the Hub to say "WTF, Jack?!?"
@nicolebee3283
@nicolebee3283 3 жыл бұрын
When feel good inc played in this episode it caught me so off guard I had to pause it to laugh
@shawndavis779
@shawndavis779 3 жыл бұрын
The worst thing that ever happened in Torchwood is when Toshio and Martha never made out with each other. Will history forgive?
@KeySnow
@KeySnow 2 жыл бұрын
oh boy now i want that 😂😂
@louisewestie989
@louisewestie989 3 жыл бұрын
The timeline goes Torchwood 01x13 End of Days Doctor Who 02x11 Utopia Doctor Who 02x12 The Sound Of Drums Doctor Who 02x13 The Last of the TimeLords Torchwood 02x01 Kiss Kiss Bang Bang Children of Earth Doctor Who
@D50Music
@D50Music 3 жыл бұрын
Martha’s a bad ass, there’s no show she couldn’t just walk in on and take over 😂
@siborgproductions2422
@siborgproductions2422 9 ай бұрын
Another doctor who link that people seem to forget is the fairies from series 1 being “part Mara”
@user-jn1wm3tb8v
@user-jn1wm3tb8v 3 жыл бұрын
And quoth our babe Annalise. HIIII MARTHA
@erinella
@erinella 3 жыл бұрын
"I've been to the moon! As if! They were drugged, it said so on the news!" "Since when do you watch the news, you can't handle Quizmania!"
@user-jn1wm3tb8v
@user-jn1wm3tb8v 3 жыл бұрын
@@erinella Blondes, unable to handle Quizmania. Smh
@Spoot401
@Spoot401 3 жыл бұрын
The first few seasons of "New Tricks" was some banger television!
@benrobinson2912
@benrobinson2912 3 жыл бұрын
The radiation also came up in the sja episode invasion of the bane
@CineScarborough
@CineScarborough 3 жыл бұрын
Martha Jones doesn't really get a great deal to do in the Owen trilogy. It's a shame they didn't give her a story in the series that wasn't so focused around one of the lead Torchwood characters.
@monstroazul3989
@monstroazul3989 3 жыл бұрын
LOVE HER
@Daniel_leading_the_13_Plateans
@Daniel_leading_the_13_Plateans 3 жыл бұрын
I like how we are all watching this at the same time lol
@docskywalker51riftstudios58
@docskywalker51riftstudios58 3 жыл бұрын
Bon jovi will not calm down
@whenthepawn99
@whenthepawn99 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for saying the Doctor mistreated her 😕
@foggypenguin5317
@foggypenguin5317 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a halo nerd so it's my DUTY to correct you That clip was from halo 2 anniversary
@darth_autie_117
@darth_autie_117 Жыл бұрын
And it's not the same sound. The Torchwood one has multiple tones when the Halo one has 1
@RyansGuitars
@RyansGuitars 3 жыл бұрын
My favourite episode next 😁👍
@FranksLegion
@FranksLegion 3 жыл бұрын
he's right about the sounds
@gsam2021
@gsam2021 3 жыл бұрын
Was this episode meant to be watched before or after The Sontaran Stratagem?
@Alia-bc3rc
@Alia-bc3rc 3 жыл бұрын
Probably before. If it's after, it would make sense if Martha mentioned it to Jack.
@TheSmart-CasualGamer
@TheSmart-CasualGamer 3 жыл бұрын
Before, but not by loads. Probably only a month or two.
@blobfish5730
@blobfish5730 3 жыл бұрын
Good episode.
@ig_4220
@ig_4220 3 жыл бұрын
Ah the trusty Eye5s nice to see them in their first appearance.
@isabellaearnhardt6380
@isabellaearnhardt6380 3 жыл бұрын
💙
@bigobloks1656
@bigobloks1656 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone have a video of the gorillaz part?
@Enderman121_
@Enderman121_ 3 жыл бұрын
So dead man walking next
@RyansGuitars
@RyansGuitars 3 жыл бұрын
Owen > Literally any other character
@tp1267
@tp1267 3 жыл бұрын
A cure all drug pushed by fishy company huh sounds familiar.
@F5rret
@F5rret 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry mate, but that's 2 anniversary
@iainkilcar7463
@iainkilcar7463 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@F5rret
@F5rret 3 жыл бұрын
@@iainkilcar7463 I mean if he was going to get it wrong at least show some H3
@saa6673
@saa6673 3 жыл бұрын
Why is experimenting on aliens so bad? It's not like they're innocent.
@julieeverett7442
@julieeverett7442 2 жыл бұрын
arent they?
@saa6673
@saa6673 2 жыл бұрын
@@julieeverett7442 They killed people.
@julieeverett7442
@julieeverett7442 2 жыл бұрын
@@saa6673 so do people, so can anyone whos cornered
@saa6673
@saa6673 2 жыл бұрын
@@julieeverett7442 But they're snarling monsters, so who really cares?
@CobaltXMusic
@CobaltXMusic 11 ай бұрын
@@saa6673that’s what they said about black people in the 16th century.
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 2 жыл бұрын
Cringey Show
@CashelOConnolly
@CashelOConnolly 3 жыл бұрын
I never liked Martha (too much simpering over the Doctor, the same way the awful Rose did) and she was a bad fit for Torchwood. Rule 101 never try 2 outshine the lead,you’ll lose!!! #BringBackTorchwood. #NotTheAmericanShiteVersion
@jbcatz5
@jbcatz5 3 жыл бұрын
There’s Aliens Among Us and God Among Us, which had input and new characters created by Russell T Davies.
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