Makes it a little too blatant than having this characters in the show was just a shameless publicity stunt to ride in the Frozen craze of the time and bring as much as possible of that fandom into their audience. Dont think it would have changed much to make their outfits colors more opaque to fit better into the world they were dropping them into, but i guess that was too risky to whoever came with this idea.

Right?? Everyone else has outfits that slightly resemble their movie selves, and these guys are just cosplaying

@@pedrovallefin8406 I don’t know, if I was a big frozen fan I’d be so disappointed they didn’t make some effort on alternating their outfits

That would be crazy!

tbf Kairi would probably get benched, as is tradition for KH ladies. that said....the sheer number of possible KH-specific characters is enough to fill the whole roster and then some, with plenty of soap opera level twists baked in.... maybe they should've kept going, it would've been great to see some real human actor try to do a Xehanort speech.

Would love to have seen an Aqua cosplayer walk into frame only to immdietely fall down and never get back up

Regina goes evil again for 2 episodes like she does every season and pulls out Sora's heart and he turns into a heartless and gets saved by Kairi's true love's kiss. That checks out for a once upon a time plot

I would have been down to see an encanto season tbh

"What if Disney but everyone is a manipulative backstabbing liar?"

So again: Adult Descendants.

​@@septiquaddoubleyou4019 lmao descendants came out 5 years after once so more like Descendants is a kidded down version of Once.

Really Descendants is just Once Upon a Time for kids😂

Pretty much but without the dance numbers.

Wait till you hear about the mobile game where every Disney character ever becomes a handsome gay anime man

@@San-nj8fj Yeah. You have not lived life until you see Twink Iago designed by the creator of Black Butler.

@@San-nj8fj Your talking about Twisted wonderland right?

@@ladypool1404 yup

What about that mobile game where Dory wears a mech suit

This made my day XD

Accurate

😂😂😂 mood

My favorite Bible quote

As someone who used to watch it a lot, this is the best description of the entire series.

Tom Nook and Redd have to team up to take on Wario and discover that Wario was being mind controlled by magical butterfly waves and the true villain is actually Slippy Toad from Starfox

Most of them would be just made into these cloned mr handsome stubble man actors

Did you mean Super Smash Brothers?

please.

I was saying the same thing to myself, genuinely curious to know if they used some of this show as inspo????

​@@softestshade7813I won't be surprised if they were wrote during the same time

All that time to refine the plot, and they didn't make it better at all

I thought that was obvious

That was so uncomfortable. And then they trying to redeem her, because now she's a mom. Horrible Omg I forgot she and Regina were sisters. And The Wicked witch slept with Regina's bf lol

@@ForrestFox626 Obvious to everyone watching the media, obvious to none of the characters *in* the media.

Way back in season one Regina had less than consensual sex with The Huntsman from Snow White and I swear to god I am the only person who seems to remember this

@@NeonPink-lj9qq Oh yeah! Classic Regina antics.

At some point, I just stopped thinking of him as Captain Hook and just thought of him as Killian the Boyfriend.

yaaass he was my fave 😍 LOL

I had very few crushes as a kid but when I say that HE WAS ONE and it was STRONG-

Stephen* 😛

@@englishatheart My apologies.

God, hearing that would just make me wanna let go of a noose

*children singing Let it go* STOP! STOP! Quick, put Barney on the TV!!! 😆😆😆😆

It scarred me for life. Thanks Disney.

That sounds like a nightmare

well at least it only took 30min to get them baak on track, though right?

Haha yeah it does

i just rewatched it recently (meant to be background noise) and i can fully confirm my brain broke by season 3 when this shit happened

@@crm7n I love ouat it's one of my favorite shows but some of the story lines are WTF and I have seen all of it

I honestly think younger me was so powerful because I have no idea how I watched almost every season of this show. Like after the Frozen season I was just watching it because I was already in too deep but nowadays I would just shut down 😭

I've started watching it in 2012/13 (I was 12/13yo), and I haven't finished it yet (I'm doing it in small portions), so whenever I do watch it, I start to lose my mind, trying to remember who was whose relative/wtv. It's just verry funny.

To be fair, he acknowledged he found it dumb without knowing it wasnt an idea of the show but from the orginal fairy tale. And in the context of the show, it does feel prety dumb. It doesn’t seem like they explained the background of the mirror shards or why do they make people evil, so in the show the Snow Queen aparently can turn people evil with her ice powers in some unexplained way. That does sounds prety dumb. Unless there was some explanation in the show im unaware of? Just to be clear, i never watched it so I wouldn't know. Either way, the show's Snow Queen is hardly a better adaptation than Frozen. Dont think the og Snow Queen was anyone's aunt, nor is Elsa's aunt the queen of the snow bees. Frozen does have some elements of the orginal story, just under the surface. In the first half there's Anna looking for her sister who have turned on her and left, like the fairy tale's main character looking for her childhood friend who left after being turned evil by the mirror shard. Seems like the nearly fraternal bond between the main character and her friend was the inspiration, and reason why is the movie main focus, for the sisterly bond between Anna and Elsa. The ending of the movie has Anna saving herself from dying by the ice shard in her heart due to her sibling love for Elsa, akin to how the main character purges her friend of the mirror's influence by the power of her inocent love for him. So, while still a terrible adaptation, Frozen does take some inspiration from the original tale beyond the ice powers, just in a very bare bones way, the broadest of strokes.

THIS IS THE EXACT SAME REASON WHY I DISLIKE FROZEN

It was going to be more like the original story, until they made Elsa good and then changed everything.

*deep breath* Peter Pan was a coward and narcissistic man called Malcom which I only know bc Im reading the wiki to fill up gaps I also didn’t remember how’st the fuck this man and child Rumpel ends up in neverland but apparently mans got the magic beans(???) and he yeets Rumpel back to their world because for some reason if he stayed with him Malcolm couldn’t turn into a kid and gain eternal life or something?? Anyways he is peter pan, jack and the beanstalk, and the pied piper and also his sons wife cheated on him with Captain Hook who just so happened to technically be Peter Pans great grandson’s stepfather which means that Hook is as old as Rumpelstilskin and as old or older than Snow White and Prince Charming who are his girlfriends parents which is pretty gross but apparently not that big of a deal

In Once Upon a Time, Rumpelstiltskin’s father Malcolm abandoned him as a child to transform himself into a child named Peter Pan and he’s evil

Search up the family tree. ABC even has an official image!

You could also look up Billiam's previous Once Upon a Time video, he talks at length about that whole Peter Pan insanity in that one.

The boy who never grew up had a child?

Hey don't be so hard on yourself, I know someone who still believes it as an adult.

@@manuelmialdea5127 this is too funny 😭 i still love watching it for how stupid it is but seriously, i thought it was GOLD somehow at one point

I mean, to be fair, you did say you were a preteen.

I think it what held it back for me was their need to have a convoluted explanation for everything. Even if they had to retcon one in. I think it had potential to be good. But things just kept getting worse after season 1. This could have just been a mini series that ended after the curse was broken. But nope.

"as a preteen"

MY NAME... SPELLED BACKWARDS... IS DISNEY!!

Okay I believe you

He is consistently referred to as The Apprentice, ie, the Sorcerer's Apprentice, which would refer to Mickey in the Fantasia sequence, and would justify the mouse gag. The Sorcerer in Once Upon A Time refers to Merlin.

I was familiar with the snow queen story so when I saw what the plot actually ended up becoming I genuinely wondered if they forgot what they were basing it on along the way

Then they got funding from Innovasjon Norge, and chose to rip-off Norwegian stories instead. Yes I'm upset, not only on behalf of the creators of those stories, but each time anything with frozen gets made, be it a movie, juice box, bracelet, or whatever, my tax money goes towards it...

I would rather have not had Elsa and Anna and just have the Snow Queen.

@@TeruteruBozusamawoah, I did not know that!

Yes and no. But this was back before the days of gatcha and before many mobile games became trash. And long before Fortnite.

@@gutsmasterson2488at some point during the duration of the series, gatcha games definitely became a thing. I’m surprised this show never got a mobile game tie-in, like a build your own storybrooke. Also Fortnite came out in 2017, I believe that was the final season of the series.

Isn't he also Rumpelstiltskin's dad or am I confused because that show is cuckoo bananas

granted, original peter pan was psychopathic

​@@bookshelfhoney Yes

My favorite line ever Peter Pan be like, oh my great grandson😂

Supposedly, that's not too far off from the actual book, so its a change to the Disney canon I actually find interesting

Same with my friend and I, she introduced me to the show and we binged up to season four. When the new teaser was shown (featuring Elsa) we just looked at each other in disappointment. I didn't watch it or future seasons so this was a fun video

With the way live action remakes go, this may not be the one at home if Disney ever does make one.

Considering they referenced Up it really isn’t far fetched at all but I am also very afraid to look

@@Aros4 Great! Maybe we'll see a "Moana" reference and a cameo from "The Rock"...

And I thought you were talking about Jessie as in from the Disney Channel sitcom.

@@zjzr08 Who says he wasnt? But even if he was talking about Toy Storys Jessie, that doesnt mean sitcom Jessie couldnt be around too. Im sure the writers of Once Upon a Time would have said "why not both?" and have them connected in some way, like saying one Jessie is a toy cowgirl version of the other or something to that effect.

It actually started as a Grimm's fairy tale show, until Frozen fever. Then it's the Magic Kingdom show.

It started out with generic fairy tale characters (with occasional random references to things like Frankenstein), but over time it gradually morphed into a giant Disney fanfic that wasn't even trying to hide it anymore.

Oh God I'm already imagining the Encanto season and somehow the Grandfather to Mirabel that died is related to like Peter Pan or something and all of the family has ties.

But it felt like if another ABC show, No Ordinary Family’s second season (in Mr. Turner’s voice: IF THEY HAD ONE!!!!) started its’ first half with a story arc where the Powells team up with Thor and Captain America just because their movies were big hits that summer. And Disney owns both ABC and Marvel. And they’re played by different actors because ABC never could afford to get either of the Avengers to appear in their Marvel shows😂🤣. What happened to subverting fairy tales?

August says that “a man called Walt” was a former author

@@matityaloran9157 did they really?? 😭i stopped watching halfway through this season so i only have a vague idea of where all these plotlines went

@@fusetunes August says that the book’s authors included “the man who saw shadows dancings on cave walls and created a philosophy” (which would be Plato) and “a man called Walt”

@@matityaloran9157 Wow, can't believe I missed all this juicy lore. I love the author idea, but Isaac is just such an uninteresting and whiny character that it completely ruined the payoff for me

Catch me trying to bring together the Once Upon a Time, Kingdom Heart, and Sofia the First cinematic universes together

@@NeonPink-lj9qq Lets be honest, mixing them all together wouldnt make the Once Upon a Time universe any less coherent, mainly because it was never all that coherent to begin with.

Olaf was superfluous, and it wasn't worth making a CG model of him.

Yoohoo!

It would take longer than the entire show

I would watch that video. I'm just imagining it being like 20 hours long or something

@@angelsartandgaming There’s a one hour KZfaq video on that subject

@@matityaloran9157 oh? By who?

@@angelsartandgaming Serena Skybourne

Look identical, act identical... all these rich stories to draw from but it's just a soap opera full of awful people.

What happened?

this is how I got into the show too

Same. It was too much and they didn't even change anything.

You mean like FABLES?

Omg thank you so much for commenting this it explains SO much. I always had questions about where Jefferson’s arc was supposed to go

Wait what?! I recently rewatched the show part I did and didn't see when I first watched and fell off.. but my spouse and I didn't watch season 7 cause it was weird with these new people.. but this comment is making me rethink that decision.... 🤔

@@ItsTommieBoi don’t…don’t do it. As someone that watched it every Friday night while trying to keep a glimmer of hope that it’ll get better, it did not. I don’t want to spoil it but it’s not it.

​@@Wonderlandhype okay I'll take your word for it haha 😂

Well that's disheartening

The seventh season was awful

Because Elsa's straight up doing witchcraft?

I will never hate Giancarlo frickin Esposito as the Magic Mirror, what a role lol

@@dnkakuseiI was talking about the casting for the frozen characters but the other castings are good too