When Sequels Don't Understand The Original

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Georg Rockall-Schmidt

Georg Rockall-Schmidt

Күн бұрын

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@morerobotwarscontent1476
@morerobotwarscontent1476 3 жыл бұрын
Not one sequel to a horror movie is a legal drama about the main survivor proving they didn't kill everyone when everyone would totally think they did it.
@daraghokane4236
@daraghokane4236 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine just a drama about the guy that escapes having surviver guilt saying why did I survive not them. Would also be a good way to bring the monster's back ptsd she keeps seeing it everywhere and having nightmares.
@fredbloggs5902
@fredbloggs5902 3 жыл бұрын
Write it down... your career awaits.
@horacelidenbrock3905
@horacelidenbrock3905 3 жыл бұрын
Ash vs Evil Dead?
@matman000000
@matman000000 3 жыл бұрын
Aliens kinda did that. Ripley goes to the colony to prove that xenomorphs are real and she's not a crazy lady who blew up a million $ spaceship for nothing.
@morerobotwarscontent1476
@morerobotwarscontent1476 3 жыл бұрын
@@horacelidenbrock3905 no they all thought he did it but they didn't have it set as purely a legal drama. I was very clear.
@repletereplete8002
@repletereplete8002 3 жыл бұрын
I don't like sharks. They're coarse, and rough, and irritating and they get everywhere when they explode.
@lamecasuelas2
@lamecasuelas2 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! That shit got me on tears!
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates 3 жыл бұрын
Bruce: _”Don’t underestimate my POWER!!!”_
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 3 жыл бұрын
Also, the poor sharks are often eaten by Mainland Chinese government officials as well. Shark fin soup = dead soulless cartilage.
@Dinoslay
@Dinoslay 3 жыл бұрын
Brody: ”You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the villains, not join them! To bring balance to the ecosystem, not leave it in darkness!”
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dinoslay Ellen Brody: “Don’t do it! I have the high ground!”
@SmithOfGear92
@SmithOfGear92 3 жыл бұрын
When you chase short-sighted profits so hard, you forget that sharks physically cannot roar.
@NecromancyForKids
@NecromancyForKids 3 жыл бұрын
Nor would they want to.
@plipogamez3173
@plipogamez3173 3 жыл бұрын
Who says the shark did not mutate?
@stevecarter8810
@stevecarter8810 3 жыл бұрын
When a shark jumps the shark
@leeboy26
@leeboy26 3 жыл бұрын
I always assumed the shark had eaten a Lion off-screen and it was still fighting to get out.
@SmithOfGear92
@SmithOfGear92 3 жыл бұрын
@@plipogamez3173 That could explain why it exploded when it was impaled on the boat's bow sprit
@zxbzxbzxb1
@zxbzxbzxb1 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly Georg is unaware that all sharks have absolutely catastrophic issues with indigestion and rampant flatulence making them terrible dinner party guests, and do actually violently explode sometimes if they're just knocked too hard by a passing seal
@GeorgRockallSchmidt
@GeorgRockallSchmidt 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have heard that sharks make terrible dinner guests because of the gas.
@WG55
@WG55 3 жыл бұрын
I had always just assumed that it was somehow because of Michael Caine being in the boat. That man is an amazing actor.
@HerneHunter
@HerneHunter 3 жыл бұрын
Shark repellent bat spray works wonders against exploding sharks.
@matthewnicholls5496
@matthewnicholls5496 3 жыл бұрын
True. They have a diet similar to Jordan Peterson. All meat, no vegetables. That's why they are depressed, i guess.
@BrisbaneTeslaGuy
@BrisbaneTeslaGuy 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a python skit
@adriannaranjo4397
@adriannaranjo4397 3 жыл бұрын
*Don't question product, just consume product and get excited for next product*
@jamesalexhowlett
@jamesalexhowlett 3 жыл бұрын
And then you get shit on for pointing this out.
@Badgers0710
@Badgers0710 3 жыл бұрын
That'd be the Hiptang
@luckygitane
@luckygitane 3 жыл бұрын
What are next
@scottfox675
@scottfox675 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamesalexhowlett because it’s a circle jerk of pseudo-intellectuals who think they’re above the common person for not liking films that anyone who understands even the basics of film criticism don’t like.
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a dumb response, audiences have shown time and time again that bad sequels are unwanted. Jaws, The Sting 2, DCU movies, Superman 4 and Batman & Robin. All those franchises died because audiences and critics didn't like the movies.
@andrewgwilliam4831
@andrewgwilliam4831 3 жыл бұрын
It's only just occurred to me that the secret to making a good sequel probably has a strong overlap with what makes a good adaptation.
3 жыл бұрын
You just blew my mind.
@Kevin_Street
@Kevin_Street 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure the creative process is the same for both, but they do tend to go wrong for the same reasons.
@blatherskite3009
@blatherskite3009 3 жыл бұрын
The need to properly understand the original work is the same, but creating a sequel goes beyond adapting material that's already been written for you - it requires you invent new material to extend someone else's story. The main problem with most sequels is that they're motivated by the studio's desire to replicate a success - to give people more of what they liked - so a sequel is mandated regardless of whether there was anything left to say, story-wise. Often, the original writer wants nothing to do with a sequel because as far as they're concerned the original story was complete in itself and already reached its natural conclusion. The words "Based on characters created by" are a warning that you're headed into the pastiche zone...
@rodrigomarcondes5857
@rodrigomarcondes5857 3 жыл бұрын
2:27 I always laugh at how Kyle Reese is depicted as an huge ripped brick wall guy in Terminator: Genesys. In the post-apocalyptic world ravaged by war and famine, people still go to gyms and eat whey protein meals. I mean, how would Emilia Clarke ever fall for Kyle if he didn't have shredded abs?
@williamt.sherman9841
@williamt.sherman9841 3 жыл бұрын
100% right.
@andrewdevine3920
@andrewdevine3920 3 жыл бұрын
Jay Courtney: 99 percent abs, 1 percent charisma.
@qty1315
@qty1315 3 жыл бұрын
It's not gyms and protein meals. It's human flesh from dead soldiers and running for your life from killer robots. That's why everyone in post-apocalyptic futures is so buff.
@Karifi
@Karifi 3 жыл бұрын
This remember me Fist of North Star were evebody is a massive bodybuilder in a post apocalipt world.
@yumyumwhatzohai
@yumyumwhatzohai 3 жыл бұрын
@@qty1315 you wouldn't be buff, you'd be lean
@mariahanover9335
@mariahanover9335 3 жыл бұрын
Alec Guinness: "he's more buoy than shark now"
@elstevobevo
@elstevobevo 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect
@TokyoXtreme
@TokyoXtreme 3 жыл бұрын
You refer to the prophecy of the one who will bring balance to the seas. You believe it’s this… buoy?
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates 3 жыл бұрын
@@TokyoXtreme “well... from a certain point of seaview”
@jonnysupreme
@jonnysupreme 3 жыл бұрын
AHOY THERE
@suimeingwong2043
@suimeingwong2043 3 жыл бұрын
One of the things that made Rambo great was we didn't know who Rambo was. That's a tough one to recreate in a sequel.
@gabe6550
@gabe6550 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrParkerman6 In some countries it's title was, in fact, "Rambo".
@BenJamin-en3jb
@BenJamin-en3jb 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrParkerman6 And Rambo 2 is officially named: Rambo: First Blood Part II :D
@seanseanston
@seanseanston 3 жыл бұрын
@@BenJamin-en3jb Then the fourth film in 2008 was just called Rambo...
@camh4656
@camh4656 3 жыл бұрын
Rambo 4 was actually decent....it was everything ramblings wasn't supposed to be, gore, grounded and not an 80's action flick.
@TheRocco96
@TheRocco96 3 жыл бұрын
In the last movie, Rambo himself didn't know who he was.
@WG55
@WG55 3 жыл бұрын
For *Jaws: The Revenge,* there is an interesting story behind the exploding shark. In the original US theatrical version, the shark bleeds to death from the wound and sinks into the water. The disastrous reviews led the producers to make an edit for the European release, and that is when the silly exploding shark was added. The producers apparently thought that the audiences were expecting an exploding shark, and the US release must have tanked because they didn't get one.
@x--.
@x--. 3 жыл бұрын
Oh I do hope this is true.
@im3phirebird81
@im3phirebird81 3 жыл бұрын
Did one of the original reviews say: "In the original you always felt like you're sitting on dynamite?"
@munjee2
@munjee2 3 жыл бұрын
When I read bleeding shark I assumed you were going to say the mpaa git involved but no, this is even dumber than I could've possibly imagined
@Bluesit32
@Bluesit32 3 жыл бұрын
Oddly enough, that is exactly how "Jaws" for the NES ends. Shark is pierced, shark sinks. Roll credits.
@AWMJoeyjoejoe
@AWMJoeyjoejoe 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bluesit32 That's how the book ends. The shark is approaching to eat Chief Brodey when it suddenly dies from exhaustion and its many wounds and sinks into the depths. Pretty anticlimactic really
@enda320
@enda320 3 жыл бұрын
Remember that mysterious throw-away line in the first film? Let's build everything on that.
@alexarias5717
@alexarias5717 3 жыл бұрын
Is this about rogue 1 lmao
@matman000000
@matman000000 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexarias5717 Works for Solo too
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexarias5717 Rogue One was such a waste of talent.
@BlueBallofFur
@BlueBallofFur 3 жыл бұрын
@@115117legit I think you're mistaking thow-away lines for world building.
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be back.
@apolloathena8140
@apolloathena8140 3 жыл бұрын
When the Sixth Sense came out, our high school band went to see it in the theaters and one of the flute players was inconsolable after the twist reveal. She wouldn't stop crying until about an hour after the movie was over. You can't recreate something like that. Like you said, Georg, these things are unquantifiable and all the variables have to come together perfectly to create something that has that kind of effect on people. Edit: spelling and grammar
@opkb4e
@opkb4e 3 жыл бұрын
Why?
@enriquecabrera2137
@enriquecabrera2137 3 жыл бұрын
@@opkb4e watch the movie
@apolloathena8140
@apolloathena8140 3 жыл бұрын
@@opkb4e Women. Am I right? /s
@JohnnyZenith
@JohnnyZenith 3 жыл бұрын
The 7th Sense was a waste of time. I telepathically move dead vegetables didn't work.
@opkb4e
@opkb4e 3 жыл бұрын
@@enriquecabrera2137 I have.
@LeonEvans_Guyver1
@LeonEvans_Guyver1 3 жыл бұрын
Georg - "Why did it explode?!" Producer - "Because more cocaine than any human being can cope with, that's why!!!"
@JoeBleasdaleReal
@JoeBleasdaleReal 3 жыл бұрын
I had a dream last night that Georg was throwing me a dinner party and asking me about the legacy of the Terminator films. We were both wearing velvet dressing gowns and his dog was darting around the room while he was none the wiser. I can hardly look at him now...
@JoeBleasdaleReal
@JoeBleasdaleReal 3 жыл бұрын
Hard to tell- he looked different because his face was a biscuit (like a Hobnob but with jam inside like a Jaffa Cake)
@sprobablycancr4457
@sprobablycancr4457 3 жыл бұрын
@@JoeBleasdaleReal Oaty?
@andrewgwilliam4831
@andrewgwilliam4831 3 жыл бұрын
@@sprobablycancr4457 No, it's just the cut of his trousers.
@adamheywood113
@adamheywood113 3 жыл бұрын
Once I had a dream that Hugh Jackman pissed on the floor but it's fine, I doubt I'll ever meet him
@sprobablycancr4457
@sprobablycancr4457 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamheywood113 Did it smell like sugar puffs?
@mutantdog.
@mutantdog. 3 жыл бұрын
I look forward to watching part 2 of this series.
@michaelsoltesz3779
@michaelsoltesz3779 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but it won’t be as good. In fact, I am going to make a video telling people to ONLY watch part one! No sequels even exist!
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 3 жыл бұрын
Well played.
@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy
@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy 3 жыл бұрын
Will he expand upon what made this video great or just rehash it and do homage and pastiche?
@Karifi
@Karifi 3 жыл бұрын
nice onde dude
@TheRodentSama
@TheRodentSama 3 жыл бұрын
Die Hard turned John McClane from a regular cop, to an invincible superman who can hang off helicopters and jetplanes, and get thrown through glass at 120mph... brushing if off laughing as he goes. Police Academy went from an adult comedy original... to a kid friendly American style Carry On series with kooky jokes and slapstick.
@Kevin_Street
@Kevin_Street 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Police Academy went on for a long time, mutating as it went to appeal to the largest demographics. They tried to do the same thing with Caddyshack, but the first sequel stunk so bad it killed the idea of a series. Somehow the Police Academy movies managed to be bad enough that no one cared if they were great, but not so bad that people would get disgusted and stop watching new ones.
@melfsacidtarot4220
@melfsacidtarot4220 3 жыл бұрын
carry on did the same thing actually. from a nostalgic war comedy with a couple of camp characters to full on self parody over the course of 268 films
@Kevin_Street
@Kevin_Street 3 жыл бұрын
268? Wikipedia says there were 31, plus 17 TV episodes and 3 stage plays. That's probably enough to qualify for longest movie series, though.
@melfsacidtarot4220
@melfsacidtarot4220 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kevin_Street it was an aproximation.
@rrson648
@rrson648 3 жыл бұрын
@douglas winward So in agreement about Diehard. That movie was awesome because despite being a cop, he was just a regular guy facing off alone against international criminals. Making him a super hero spy cop or whatever is exactly opposite of why it was cool in the first place.
@TheTomimt
@TheTomimt 3 жыл бұрын
The thing about the Sixth Sense is, it works even after you know the twist. Knowing just makes you look at the movie from a different perspective and appreciate it even further in how well made of a movie it is. Shyamalan hasn't really managed to pull the same rabbit out from his hat the second time, no matter how much he tries.
@Louis-wp3fq
@Louis-wp3fq 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I actually guessed the twist from the trailer and still adored the film.
@leetri
@leetri 3 жыл бұрын
This brings up an interesting fact: people actually enjoy stories MORE if they're spoiled beforehand. If you go in completely blind you focus your attention on trying to understand the plot and the twist, but if you already know the twist you can enjoy the setup and scenery and get a much deeper appreciation for the work.
@philstaples8122
@philstaples8122 3 жыл бұрын
How about: Lady in the Water lol now that was a tip top film
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
Split was a great film, and when I saw it I didn't know it was a Shyamalan film, so that was the twist for me lol.
@steves1015
@steves1015 3 жыл бұрын
@@leetri I disagree. How can knowing the spoilers beforehand make the film better? There are still some emotions and reactions that will be generated from seeing the unexpected twist in a film. A feeling you will not get if you know about it and are waiting for it. At least by seeing a film fresh you get this experience and then if you want to try to understand how the film fits around this twist, you can watch the film a second (or more) time to see the things you previously missed. The twist is a part of the experience. Spoilers suck - but having good twists can make repeated viewing more enjoyable. Predestination (the Sarah Snook film) wouldn’t have left me sat in the movie theatre in awe if I knew the twist. Empire Strikes Back wouldn’t have had me so gripped as a child. Both me and my friend were shocked in Dusk til Dawn because we thought we were in to see a regular Tarantino film and hadn’t seen any info about this film. Lots of films I have enjoyed because of being suckered in, or because I think I spotted the twist and was wrong (or right) - it is a big part of the enjoyment of a film.
@dominictemple
@dominictemple 3 жыл бұрын
It's the old line about government policy, "something must be done, this is something, therefore this must be done." You're close Georg, but it's a system of "what can we copy, we can copy X, therefore we must must make a dozen films with X." Good video as always G.
@doemacmonkey
@doemacmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Never mind sequels, I’ve always been impressed with cinema’s ability to ‘coincidentally churn out clones seemingly simultaneously - Armageddon/deep impact, Dante’s peak/volcano, the Prestige/The Illusionist, K9/Turner & Houch, friends with benefits/no strings attached, Olympus has fallen/White House down, to name but a few...
@Kevin_Street
@Kevin_Street 3 жыл бұрын
The thing is, that kind of formula storytelling _does_ work in other mediums. There are soap operas that go on for literal decades, comic books that have been published for eighty years, pulp novels that churn out hundreds of adventures that have a similar feel. For some reason it's harder to that in movies.
@ellicel
@ellicel 3 жыл бұрын
Commendable real world use of the wonderful writing of such a great tv show! It seems to only get more and more relevant as the world grows more absurd.
@TheJolle
@TheJolle 3 жыл бұрын
First movie: Low to modest budget, huge success!!! Second movie: Studio execs get interested and want to make sure the next movie makes even more money, so budget is increased. Then execs want the director to remove anything that could risk the big investment
@leftymcnally6913
@leftymcnally6913 3 жыл бұрын
Predator is my favorite movie of all time, and I always thought Predator 2 was underrated as a sequel. If felt different, but just familiar enough. It expanded on the lore of the Predators without telling you too much. Loved it
@Louis-wp3fq
@Louis-wp3fq 3 жыл бұрын
I love 2 despite the general concept not making sense. (Why would a hunter be stalking people in a city?) That's the sign of well-made entertainment.
@Games_and_Music
@Games_and_Music 3 жыл бұрын
Same here, i really liked the sequel and thought it deserved more love. I felt similar about RoboCop 2, you could see that it was less ambitious or expensive, but they gave it their own spin and it was still authentic and true to the franchise. Bad example probably would be The Fly II, the old movies were pretty true to their nature, but the 80s sequel was a lot different, but.. i still liked it.
@JezaLoki
@JezaLoki 3 жыл бұрын
Predator is my favourite movie of all time, too. I’ll watch it at least once a year. The sequel I haven’t seen in 25ish years so I really should rewatch it. I liked the idea that the predators are an ancient species that go around the universe looking for the ultimate hunt. Or did I misread that?
@blatherskite3009
@blatherskite3009 3 жыл бұрын
@@Louis-wp3fq The reason Predator 2 is set in a city is because the first film was set in a jungle. Doing that again would've been too samey, so the sequel is set in the *other* kind of jungle - the "urban jungle" - instead. A bit of "jungle" wordplay from the scriptwriter, really :)
@Louis-wp3fq
@Louis-wp3fq 3 жыл бұрын
@@blatherskite3009 I always assumed that was probably the reason for the change of location. Still doesn't make much sense from the predator's POV.
@botz77
@botz77 3 жыл бұрын
I love when Mrs. Brodie has a flashback to an event she didn't witness.
@cherryydarling
@cherryydarling 3 жыл бұрын
Lolololol
@Bluesit32
@Bluesit32 3 жыл бұрын
They were DESPERATELY trying to capture some of the old magic, weren't they? "Let's show clips from the original movie's ending! That makes our ending good too, right?"
@ebbhead20
@ebbhead20 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist, an old geezer filmed it all hoping to sell the footage to the newspapers. That's why he didn't lift a finger. He didn't care who won, all he saw was cash. 😏
@jarelllevingston7882
@jarelllevingston7882 Жыл бұрын
What movie are y’all talking about?
@reaverman
@reaverman 3 жыл бұрын
I've had a few drinks, bear with me. But Glass isn't a sequel to Sixth Sense!
@Games_and_Music
@Games_and_Music 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same, i know that Glass was part of something, but it can't be a sequel to 6th Sense because.. well, he was dead, and Glass is pretty much the opposite of a dead guy (i haven't watched the movie, but i doubt that he's an indestructable ghost), i was assuming it was a joke on Georg's side.
@Grim_Beard
@Grim_Beard 3 жыл бұрын
Glass is a sequel to both _Unbreakable_ and _Split_ .
@dontevenlook
@dontevenlook 3 жыл бұрын
woooosh
@tofu3193
@tofu3193 3 жыл бұрын
"Sixth sense's sequel, glass" Succulent bait, I'm stealing that one.
@blatherskite3009
@blatherskite3009 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, even when it's the same director as the original film that's still no guarantee that the director actually understood the original film. Looking at you, Prometheus. And you, Highlander II. It's probably because we over-credit directors and treat them as if they're the sole artist who birthed a film into existence. In a lot of cases, the person who directed the original film didn't actually write the damn thing; the script was handed to them. The fact that a film director might be great at what they do - i.e. overseeing the transforming of words on paper into moving pictures on a cinema screen - says nothing about whether they're any good at recognising whether a sequel script is spun gold or horseshit. It's all about the script, imho. It's the foundation of every film.
@jothishprabu8
@jothishprabu8 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrParkerman6you're wrong
@blatherskite3009
@blatherskite3009 3 жыл бұрын
@@MrParkerman6 Exactly. Some of my favourite films have "workmanlike" direction that simply gets the job done in a solid, competent, unflashy way. What makes them great films are their imaginative scenarios, interesting themes, memorable characters and quotable dialog. And all of those things come from the script. If the script is poor then all of the director's best flashy moves, expensive CG, huge production values, etc., will only ever amount to a turd-polishing exercise. Yep, Terry Gilliam said much the same thing: he said the only real skill a director needs to have is the ability to communicate clearly what he wants to see to the actors and technicians who actually make it happen.
@Kevin_Street
@Kevin_Street 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, Highlander II. That's a classic example of a director who didn't understand the appeal of his first movie. It always comes down to the characters and how well we identify with them.
@blatherskite3009
@blatherskite3009 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kevin_Street Yep. Highlander II sticks in my mind as the most egregious example of a sequel that totally failed to understand anything about the original film - what people liked about it, why it worked, what the established canon was, where to go with a sequel storyline ... any of it. It still boggles my mind that none of the people involved in such a huge production ever stuck their hand up and suggested the script could maybe, y'know, use a re-think. Especially director Russell Mulcahy and lead-actor Christopher Lambert, who you'd hope would've had at least SOME understanding of the film they had made. Personally, I would've stopped reading the script treatment and hired a different writer at the first mention of the Planet Zeist :)
@mrman5517
@mrman5517 3 жыл бұрын
next week: "When Sequels Don't Understand The Original 2 - Electric Boogaloo"
@ghiblinerd6196
@ghiblinerd6196 3 жыл бұрын
Forget: “why did it explode?” How about why did it roar, rise and stay above water, and chase a family from New England to the Bahamas? Why was Michael caine’s best line: “two Bahama mommas!” 👆🏼
@wanderinghistorian
@wanderinghistorian 3 жыл бұрын
At the start everyone believes the mom has gone crazy because she believed a shark killed her husband with fear and swam into warm waters to chase them down. What would've been an interesting movie is if, in the end, she was crazy and there was no shark.
@ghiblinerd6196
@ghiblinerd6196 3 жыл бұрын
@@wanderinghistorian or if it was a cute penguin that kept offering her a fish
@andrewdevine3920
@andrewdevine3920 3 жыл бұрын
It being set in the Bahamas was a condition of Michael Caine being in it.
@thandargor1677
@thandargor1677 3 жыл бұрын
Clint Eastwood and Sergio Leone's "Dollar" trilogy got better with every film, it's like they cracked it so everybody else gave up trying...
@Kevin_Street
@Kevin_Street 3 жыл бұрын
They weren't direct sequels, but many people tried to copy them.
@jarelllevingston7882
@jarelllevingston7882 Жыл бұрын
Toy Story did the same before the 4th one.
@Dale_The_Space_Wizard
@Dale_The_Space_Wizard 3 жыл бұрын
Why am I thinking about Highlander II: The Quickening?
@Louis-wp3fq
@Louis-wp3fq 3 жыл бұрын
Because you are a connoisseur of fine cinema.
@suimeingwong2043
@suimeingwong2043 3 жыл бұрын
Aliens from Zeist. When I saw that I knew the people involved didn't care.
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 3 жыл бұрын
@@suimeingwong2043 They cared, but they ran into massive money and labor problems causing the company fronting them loans to take over creatively.
@MammaApa
@MammaApa 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why you are thinking about such a thing since it DOESN'T EXIST. NO.
@Games_and_Music
@Games_and_Music 3 жыл бұрын
@@MammaApa indeed. There can be only one.
@PatchCornAdams723
@PatchCornAdams723 3 жыл бұрын
Every day I pray for a collab between Georg and RLM.
@williamt.sherman9841
@williamt.sherman9841 3 жыл бұрын
it can never happen. one lives in Wales the other only exists in our hearts and minds.
@PatchCornAdams723
@PatchCornAdams723 3 жыл бұрын
@@williamt.sherman9841 Naww Georg has said in the past that he lives in the USA. I think he's even in the Midwest.
@bobbobson110
@bobbobson110 3 жыл бұрын
@@PatchCornAdams723 he said he lives in Mexico.
@maxobyrne1474
@maxobyrne1474 3 жыл бұрын
As soon as you mentioned filmmakers not understanding why their own films work, I thought “yeah, here comes M Night”
@tedankhamenbonnah4848
@tedankhamenbonnah4848 3 жыл бұрын
When Michael Caine was asked about how bad Jaws 4 was, he replied "I did not see Jaws 4. I saw the pool Jaws 4 helped build behind my house. And it is lovely."
@Bluesit32
@Bluesit32 3 жыл бұрын
That's how it's done. Own up to the fact you did it entirely for the money, not because you thought the movie would be good. I hope that pool is still lovely to this day. ...eh, he probably moved.
@ebbhead20
@ebbhead20 3 жыл бұрын
He actually said, he didn't remember the film, only the house it bought him..
@henrikaugustsson4041
@henrikaugustsson4041 2 жыл бұрын
Caine is a savage! 🤣
@AWMJoeyjoejoe
@AWMJoeyjoejoe 2 жыл бұрын
"I have never seen it (Jaws 4) but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built and it is terrific." That's what he said
@lastxflfan420
@lastxflfan420 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Matrix Reloaded could have easily been in this list as well. Remember the agents? Now there is 100 of them fighting Neo!
@aBerlin1945
@aBerlin1945 3 жыл бұрын
Totally. The wachowskis had no idea why their movie was popular, or how it worked
@Karifi
@Karifi 3 жыл бұрын
I didnt like the movie, but the 100 agents Smith is actually a cool idea
@Fulgrim_The_Phoenician
@Fulgrim_The_Phoenician 2 жыл бұрын
Well ...have y'all seen the newest trailer? Its gonna get alot worse
@miguelpereira9859
@miguelpereira9859 2 жыл бұрын
I actually don't think Reloaded is that bad of a movie, sure the original is a total masterpiece and it doesn't compare but it's still a good blockbuster flick.
@miguelpereira9859
@miguelpereira9859 2 жыл бұрын
Revolutions is the one that really sucks
@peteranderson037
@peteranderson037 3 жыл бұрын
One of the worst things to happen for a new artist is to have an instant success right out of the gates. There's nothing to learn from it and no where to go but down.
@pedrob3953
@pedrob3953 3 жыл бұрын
@@spanishprisoner M. Night Shyamalan's "Sixth Sense"; Richard Kelly's "Donnie Darko".
@TheColonelKlink
@TheColonelKlink 3 жыл бұрын
"Sharks are intense." Roll camera. Cue pyrotechnics.
@ernestolombardo5811
@ernestolombardo5811 3 жыл бұрын
"A shark is a shark is a shark" - studio (Italian) suit in the "creative" meeting, while his Lamborghini parked in the handicapped spot and nobody does anything about it because "he's too powerful".
@GoTeamScotch
@GoTeamScotch 3 жыл бұрын
Filmmakers indeed don't always know how or why a film becomes a cultural phenomena. They'll try to make their best guess at what will be successful with audiences, but sometimes it's just a matter of how audiences react. And a problem with sequels is that audiences already know that universe. You don't get the "boost" of it being all new and interesting. If sequels do exactly the same thing as the first, it can feel boring because audiences have seen it already. If it changes too much, it can feel foreign like it's not part of the same lineage as the first. Audiences have more expectations going into the sequel that they didn't have with the first movie.
@robertobuatti7226
@robertobuatti7226 3 жыл бұрын
Some sequels not only understand the original but make it so much better such as T2 Judgement Day, but these are rare and most fail of living up to the original movie.
@alexarias5717
@alexarias5717 3 жыл бұрын
Another good sequel: spiderman 2
@goodial
@goodial 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexarias5717 Paddington 2! :)
@robertobuatti7226
@robertobuatti7226 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexarias5717 Yes definitely, I forgot about that.
@NickLaslett
@NickLaslett 3 жыл бұрын
Actually T2 undermines the first film. The idea that all terminator robots look like Arnie. In the first film it is pretty clear that you can’t tell a robot from a human. Hence the use of dogs. T2 just has a bigger budget, it is basically a remake.
@robertobuatti7226
@robertobuatti7226 3 жыл бұрын
@@NickLaslett Oh yes definitely, I can understand that point of view, it's still a fantastic movie, the original amazing too, more of a horror sci-fi thriller and the sequel is more of an action sci-fi.
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 3 жыл бұрын
"it almost seems sometimes people that make films find themselves not understanding why previous successes, even their own, were successful" Oof, that was a nice jab at George Lucas. Being a fan of Mad Max, I always think that George Miller is the opposite of George Lucas in terms of understanding what they did. The first Mad Max was very much a film made instinctively and almost by accident it became a worldwide hit. After that Miller was hellbent on trying to understand why that film worked, learned a ton and produced Mad Max 2: Road Warrior which is arguably the best in the series. He ramped everything up for that film but the underlying framework of the film was changed and well understood. So on the surface there were more explosions and action but the whole thing resonated much better with audiences. That's how you do sequels. Same with Alien and Aliens. Ridley Scott laid down the groundwork. James Cameron took the fun parts, amped them up and packaged them differently. Same with Terminator and Terminator 2. Who'd have thunk that expanding on surface level ideas of the original picture is only a cherry on top that you put on a new and compelling narrative? Huh...
@phil7144
@phil7144 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
I hold that aside from a couple of films, George Lucas isn't a very good filmmaker; his biggest successes came from letting his team do their jobs. His wife editing Ep IV, his basically sitting out Ep V, etc. THX1138 stands out to me as a good film that was actually a Lucas film. Maybe American Graffiti? Ridley Scott used to be a sure bet but in the last 15 years or so he's hit or miss. The Martian and Blackhawk Down were great but his newer Alien films suck. Good thing he stepped aside and let Denis Villenueve handle Blade Runner 2049.
@steves1015
@steves1015 3 жыл бұрын
@@RCAvhstape i agree and think you are spot on. I remember seeing interviews with the various cast and crew of original trilogy, and one theme that came up was that they would stand up to Lucas and argue for changes. As you said, a lot was changed in the edit without his direct supervision, and Harrison Ford would constantly tell George that the dialogue was wrong “people don’t say that”. Then for the prequels, he just became too big for his own good. Everyone treated him like a god. The younger actors were in awe of him and wouldn’t dare question him and he had too much control over the final products. As en example of this - the critics at the time generally gave the Phantom Menace unfettered praise, so when I went to see it I was incredibly shocked/disappointed and wondered what the hell they had been watching. His ideas are great, but he did need to relinquish some of the responsibilities to others to help him put it to film. As for Ridley Scott - I get the feeling he no longer cares. The Alien prequels just didn’t have any of the magic of the earlier films, though to be fair, how many ways can you tell a monster story?
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
@@steves1015 Yep agree about Lucas. About Scott, I think he does care else he wouldn't be doing the newer Alien films, but I think he's too close to the problem and doesn't understand why he's getting it wrong. In Prometheus he tried to replicate the trope of the working class crewmen bitching about their pay, as in Alien, but this made no sense since it was a science mission with hand-picked specialists, not a freight hauler. Just one example of how he tried to fit square pegs into round holes. He hit it out of the park with The Martian, though, so he can still get it done if conditions are right.
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 3 жыл бұрын
​@@RCAvhstape It was not just Lucas' ego that came into play but also the fact that he was rather cynical and sometimes straight up an asshole when it comes to the original Star Wars. You mentioned TXH1138 - I can't remember where I read about it but Star Wars was supposed to be Lucas' cynical middle finger to Hollywood, originally designed as a Flash Gordon knockoff, a very simple Campbellian story that was designed to sell merch for kids. That apparently came from the fact that Lucas' earlier projects like the THX1138 were rather high concept and 'artsy' if you will with deeper themes and heavy narratives, but once Lucas got his foot in the door in the Hollywood film industry he realized none of that would fly so he made Star Wars. The entire thing was almost designed like a B movie with bad dialogue, absolutely ridiculous character design and ideas. Thankfully the people he worked with saw something in Star Wars and saved it from a complete disaster it would've been, but the asshole part of Lucas' personality really started to shine when he actively tried to remove his ex-wife Marcia from the credits who edited and arguably saved that film in the edit. At a certain point I guess he started thinking he was solely responsible for the success of Star Wars and his ego was fed by the Star Wars fandom that grew to some gigantic proportions by the time Lucas decided to make the Prequels. As for Ridley Scott, I think the problem with him is that he sucks at writing scripts and even selecting people who help him write his movies. He's absolutely great at visuals, worldbuilding and directing but that only works when there's good source material and most of the stuff he's done - they're adaptations, except for maybe the first Alien. So when time came for Ridley to revisit the world of Alien that was already butchered 3 times over by pop culture he had the task of giving that world a new angle but he failed to do that all throughout. You can see what he was trying to do though, he was somehow trying to tie in ancient aliens with Jesus and technology (in that we were created by Engineers and they sent one of their own to Earth as Jesus and we killed him so now they're out to kill us all for being some kind of failed experiment that got out of hand and all that spiced up with humans making androids that made the Xenomorph.... I think). And that is such a huge idea that needs to be first explored 100% before you even can attempt to write a script about it and distill it into a movie, but since Ridley couldn't handle it himself, he hired scriptwriters that butchered that idea - because apparently explaining such a grand idea by not explaining it at all on screen in Prometheus was the way to go, thanks Lindeloff. And with that one film the entire Alien franchise became a complete mess from the hands of its own creator who flailed around trying to explain some of it with Alien Covenant but that failed as well.
@jimstanley_49
@jimstanley_49 3 жыл бұрын
"... a bizarre mix of homage and pastiche." The word I've used to describe it is "caricature." The sequel takes the familiar beats of the original and cranks them up slightly so they fall in the uncanny valley portion of the nostalgia curve. It's very familiar, but doesn't seem to understand the original and is doing it wrong. Like putting the iron giant in your movie and then using him as a gun.
@ComicGladiator
@ComicGladiator 3 жыл бұрын
He is not a gun !
@Activated_Complex
@Activated_Complex 3 жыл бұрын
In Rambo: First Blood Part II, the theme was, once again, soldiers getting screwed over and left behind by Uncle Sam. The rah-rah-USA reputation is largely due to marketing, and the way it provided easy material for standup comics and political pundits in the ‘80s. And the latest two Rambo films were set against the backdrop of Myanmar’s military dictatorship and the absolutely rampant modern plague of human trafficking, respectively. So, fair play to Sly, here.
@motherplayer
@motherplayer 3 жыл бұрын
Respect that you brought that up. People are totally fine with calling out the later excesses of the Rambo series, but I will defend at least the 2nd film for having more going for it than is generally given credit for as a "Meathead" sequel.
@BenWard29
@BenWard29 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite sequel- Scarface 2. Actually, in all seriousness, Carlito’s Way is awesome.
@HumanHamCube
@HumanHamCube 3 жыл бұрын
Mad Max: Fury Road was an exemplary exercise in franchise filmmaking. Probably the best example of a creator understanding their material and elevating it to 21 century expectations.
@thedddemon
@thedddemon 3 жыл бұрын
Good point, although more of a remake than a sequel.
@JH-lo9ut
@JH-lo9ut 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree! It is such a great format though: it is basically a dystopian future spaghetti western. As long as the movie makers understand the key ingredients, it is just a perfect recipe. It is not about the story, or the hero or the drama, it is about the action and getting immersed in the world of the film. And you get it: the world has gone to shit, it is every man for himself and there are awesome cars made from scrap metal. Bad guys make the joker look like Walther Cronkite Keep it stupid and you'll do fine.
@Kevin_Street
@Kevin_Street 3 жыл бұрын
It's interesting how Beyond Thunderdome started to lead the series off course, but in the years between 1985 and 2015 George Miller clearly refined his own understanding of what made the franchise work.
@Alexanderiii
@Alexanderiii 3 жыл бұрын
Georg's video is so dark I thought he was in the DCEU.
@Games_and_Music
@Games_and_Music 3 жыл бұрын
i'm waiting for the Snyder edit
@MrEd8846
@MrEd8846 3 жыл бұрын
The whole reason doctor sleep ended that way was because he wanted to make 2 crowds happy. And overall I thought it did a good job even with the hotel ending. The book did take place at what was left of the hotel
@jakebreaker
@jakebreaker 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this with the closed captioning on is great. (Shark is lightly tapped by a boat, and explodes)
@tbone2646
@tbone2646 3 жыл бұрын
Conan the Barbarian 1982 has a special feeling and atmosphere that I haven't seen recreated in any other sword and sorcery film, not even it's own sequel and reboot
@blatherskite3009
@blatherskite3009 3 жыл бұрын
I'm with you on that one. The main difference is that Conan the Barbarian 1982 is played absolutely straight, takes its subject seriously, and believes in itself. It really is as simple as that. There's none of the wink-to-camera "it's all a bit of a laugh, isn't it?" attitude that most other fantasy films fall prey to. Of course it also helped that Conan 1982 had the budget to realize what it wanted to put on-screen. Unlike many other fantasy films, viewers' immersion wasn't undermined by cheap and laughable sets, costumes, effects, lighting etc. That's important. Arguably, the only difference between Alien and dozens of previous sci-fi "creature features" is that Alien had the budget and technical talent to realize everything on-screen in an immersive and believable way that audiences were able to take seriously and not laugh at. So ... I suppose what I'm saying is that Conan 1982 is to fantasy films what Alien was to bug-eyed monster films, i.e. a glimpse of what happens if you give traditionally "B-Movie" subject-matter the A-Movie treatment and play it straight. It's not strictly-speaking "sword and sorcery" but the only film I've seen in recent years that captured some of that special sauce was Valhalla Rising (2009). It's a more art-house type film than Conan (hardly anyone speaks) and mostly keeps things real (albeit with an otherworldly air of legend about it) but I definitely got feels off it that I hadn't felt since seeing the 1982 Conan film.
@tbone2646
@tbone2646 3 жыл бұрын
@@blatherskite3009 Cool dude, I'll check Valhalla Rising out
@blatherskite3009
@blatherskite3009 3 жыл бұрын
@@tbone2646 Cool, hope you get something from it! Strange film, both mystical and visceral. See it in HD if you can because it's quite beautifully shot :)
@pappy374
@pappy374 3 жыл бұрын
@@tbone2646 I actually like the sequel, Conan The Destroyer, but it is so radically different in tone to the first film that I sort of mentally compartmentalise them from each other.
@hatuletoh
@hatuletoh 3 жыл бұрын
The Star Wars prequels definitively proved that George Lucas had no idea why people liked his films. And also that he has never had any grasp on the behavior and speech patterns of humans.
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 3 жыл бұрын
It can't be a fluke that George Lucas was instrumental in making some all time great Hollywood Pictures. As part of a team he was incredible. Pretty sure what happened was he become much more powerful in the industry and instead of being part of a team he hired a bunch of yes men. The only goal of the new team was to please George Lucas instead of making a great movie. George Lucas biggest weakness is not recognizing that he in fact has them.
@hatuletoh
@hatuletoh 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wallyworld30 I don't think it's a fluke, I just think Lucas only knows how to do BIG: big themes, big shots, big effects. As you correctly point out, when he's one voice on a team of equals he turns in his best work. When he has complete control, we get beautifully shot big battles with low stakes, because he hasn't put in the work to make us care about the characters. His small character moments are boring, hacky, camera a/camera b back and forth conversations with little or nothing of interest going on. Sure, there's the stilted dialog that everyone laughs about, but a movie like Empire shows that good actors with a good director can make Lucas's dialog work well enough. On the other hand, look at almost any scene in the prequels in which two characters are just talking without any action, and the whole scene will be blocked and shot with all the artistic flair and visual interest of a soap opera. Even the original Stars Wars film, as much as it was Lucas's baby, was only turned into the tight, exciting movie it became through the smart editing of Lucas's wife. The way it was originally scripted, there were two attacks on the Death Star, which was just sitting around. The idea to cut the shots so that the rebel pilots had to destroy before it could blast the rebel base--that is, main reason the scene has such great tension and urgency--was all Lucas's wife in the editing booth. It was also her idea to start the film by staying with the space chase/droids/Vader/etc.; the original script had those scenes interspersed with cuts to Luke watching the battle and bitching about moisture evaporaters and going to Toshi Station. All of which demonstrates to me that Lucas honestly didn't understand, and probably has never really understood, that people loved his films as much as they did because of the small character moments and little details that made the world feel real. The epic battles, special effects, and grand archetypal themes were cool and certainly contributed to the success of the films, but they weren't the reason the SW universe spawned millions of pages of fan fiction, or motivated middle aged fans to dress up in thousand-dollar, homemade stormtrooper costumes and go to conventions 30 yrs after the films were released. That kind of devotion requires a much more personal and human connection that seems totally alien to Lucas...no pun intended.
@Wallyworld30
@Wallyworld30 3 жыл бұрын
@@hatuletoh Nice reply... I'm off to go watch RedLetterMedia review of the Prequels again. I'm due it's been 4 years or so since I've watched them. Now you have me hyped to to watch them again! Need to go buy some pizza rolls for the occasion.
@SlapstickGenius23
@SlapstickGenius23 3 жыл бұрын
The sequels are just badly planned.
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 3 жыл бұрын
Strongly disagree with your assessment of The Lost World, despite a few familiar set pieces the movies plot and ideas are very different. Excellent use of Ghostbuster clips though, its my favorite movie!
@MrSnaztastic
@MrSnaztastic 3 жыл бұрын
I wasn't actually sure what point he was making there honestly with that comparison. I'd say TLW pretty closely adheres to the James Cameron school of sequel craft. Replicate all of the original beats almost down to the exact minute but remixed in a whole new manner, with a larger ensemble, more complicated motivations and connective plotting, and increasing the overall scale. It's largely successful particularly due to its heavy tonal shift where, we know bad stuff comes from meddling with these beasts, and here we are again- the sense of foreboding is strong and the mood is entirely different. Perhaps that was a turnoff for some who loved all the wonderment of the first, but it definitely works for a lot of people.
@Dohsoda
@Dohsoda 3 жыл бұрын
I really believe The Lost World: Jurassic Park is the best of the Jurassic sequels. Its a darker movie than the first in its tone and visuals. The score by John Williams is fantastic as well.
@eliotmccann2589
@eliotmccann2589 3 жыл бұрын
3:53- the Daria sting is a stroke of genius.
@cloister5613
@cloister5613 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Robocop remake at least explored new ground which set itself apart from the original. Both have the half man, half machine, all cop core. In the original it is a revenge story where the protagonist slowly rediscovers his humanity. In the remake Murphy just comes round after the bomb with his memories intact. He thinks he is who he was before but then in the chilling “show me” scene he see’s how little of him is left. He can’t take the suit off at the end of the day and go home this is who he is. The life he had before is over but in his mind he is still him and his wife and son still see him as Murphy. I am not saying it is a great movie or better than the original but I liked this twist on the core story.
@tbone2646
@tbone2646 3 жыл бұрын
nah see that was the problem with the film, there was too much introspective "what does it mean to be a robo cop?" and not enough fun
@screenwolf
@screenwolf 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate they took a different approach. They basically tried to make a very human piece about rehab after a life changing injury (such as when a soldier loses limbs to an IED). The problem was they basically tried to force onto that film the majority of the plot from the original and because they spent so much time with the rehab stuff everything else felt rushed and insignificant. To me it seemed like everything would have been a whole lot better had they just made a different movie with no direct ties to Robocop thereby freeing themselves from any kind of plot commitment. But alas these days this is what happens to many franchises. People have in mind the movie they want to make, the studio wants the franchise film and so they go and turn their movie into that franchise film/sequel/reboot.
@FlesHBoX
@FlesHBoX 3 жыл бұрын
lol, the very first thing I thought about in this video was the Star Wars prequels. I've made the statement "George Lucas doesn't understand Star Wars" so many times I can't even remember when I first said it.
@Grim_Beard
@Grim_Beard 3 жыл бұрын
Star Wars started as 'Flash Gordon meets Akira Kurosawa' but moved rapidly into 'Kenner meets your wallet', before being re-booted as 'Lucasfilm meets your credit card' and re-rebooted as 'Disney wants your everything.'
@shohmyoh
@shohmyoh 3 жыл бұрын
@@Grim_Beard Star Wars A New Hope was good because I lot of other people were telling George to take out all the Goofy stuff and politics. When He made Episode I no one would challenge what he said anymore so he got to put all the politics and goofy stuff back in.
@JF-em6hr
@JF-em6hr 3 жыл бұрын
The original Star Wars did everything to "fool" the eye into really believe what you were seeing. The pequels did nothing to fool the eye. It was like watching Tony the Tiger, the Kellogs commercials. They were cartoons. Non realistic cartoons.
@LegioXXI
@LegioXXI 2 жыл бұрын
The prequels are better than the OT, fite me :^)
@lanceflair9864
@lanceflair9864 3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for "being John Malcovic 2"
@Pattamatt1998
@Pattamatt1998 3 жыл бұрын
2 John 2 Malkovich
@goodial
@goodial 3 жыл бұрын
Adaption 2, because Charlie Kaufmann didn't know how to adapt a book again
@CeruleanBlue61
@CeruleanBlue61 3 жыл бұрын
2 be John Malkovich
@Games_and_Music
@Games_and_Music 3 жыл бұрын
I thought that was Inception?
@Noms_Chompsky
@Noms_Chompsky 3 жыл бұрын
"In the Sixth Sense's sequel...Glass" genius!
@DeathBYDesign666
@DeathBYDesign666 3 жыл бұрын
It could be a third sequel, it explores the same premise of people who have some kind of supernatural powers. I think he just got confused about the entirety of M night catalog just because they both have Bruce Willis. It technically could be in the same universe though.
@Noms_Chompsky
@Noms_Chompsky 3 жыл бұрын
@@DeathBYDesign666 It's not any kind of a sequel, it's a joke my dude
@qty1315
@qty1315 3 жыл бұрын
@@DeathBYDesign666 Meh, it probably could be the sequel to it. In my mind, it's pretty much a crossover between all of his movies, including Avatar, The Visit, After Earth, and The Lady In The Water.
@DeathBYDesign666
@DeathBYDesign666 3 жыл бұрын
@@Noms_Chompsky Well the movie in question definitely is a second sequel and he plays it so straight that you can't tell if he is indeed joking. In any case I was saying it could be and that I think is the joke because one can never be sure with his projects.
@gangstalker69
@gangstalker69 3 жыл бұрын
Im gonna say the transition in rambos character is pretty rational really. He was so consumed with the war and what he lost that after he snapped that release then time in hard labor cleared his head and let him deal with it. Then a chance to find people left behind by the country that forgot him gave him purpose again and with him coming to terms with himself made hin focused
@catriona_drummond
@catriona_drummond 3 жыл бұрын
Do you realise just how cynical that is? Let's put traumatized people in labour camps, it will clear their heads.
@razorfett147
@razorfett147 3 жыл бұрын
Its mind blowing to me even today that they managed to build a mechanical shark in Jaws 4 that looked 3 times more fake than the shark in the original. That takes talent
@bfish89ryuhayabusa
@bfish89ryuhayabusa 3 жыл бұрын
I do appreciate that Blair Witch 2 didn't try to recapture the lightning in a bottle of the first movie, and I recall seeing some things about its making and thought that some good ideas went into it, though I don't remember much beyond that. But um, the end product does not work.
@Shadowcam00
@Shadowcam00 3 жыл бұрын
Why do the critics i like insist on making me feel like a crazy person for not thinking Blade Runner 2049 was as good as the original? Yes, i understand tone and themes; but the film felt to me like one part new ideas, one part homage to the original, and two parts slow guided museum tour of someone's concept art portfolio. _"Look... it's orange and desolate... how contemplative... and in this exhibit over here......"_
@Anatolij86
@Anatolij86 3 жыл бұрын
Ahahah well said
@DealerD8vE
@DealerD8vE 3 жыл бұрын
It also telegraphed its plot points, resurrected Rachel for nothing, reduced Decker to a damsel in distress and, had a soundtrack that could obliterate kidney stones.
@caeserromero3013
@caeserromero3013 3 жыл бұрын
It's like saying: You like Formula 1 racing? Then you'll LOVE Indy Car too...because it has cars...going in circles....endlessly...
@troylowe814
@troylowe814 3 жыл бұрын
Sequels that DID work and even improved on the originals...National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation, Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Universal's The Bride of Frankenstein, Hammer's Revenge of Frankenstein, Cheech and Chong's Next Movie, The Human Tornado (sequel to Dolemite), The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes (Basil Rathbone's second Sherlock movie). With the exception of Wrath of Khan, what do all of these sequels have in common? They all have the same people involved who made the initial movie work (and with Wrath of Khan, they went a step further and didn't make a true sequel to ST:TMP, but a sequel to a classic ST tv episode). These folks understood what worked before and were allowed by the powers that be to extend on, not recreate that.
@dcanmore
@dcanmore 3 жыл бұрын
two very underrated sequels: 2010 and Tron Legacy
@DeltaAssaultGaming
@DeltaAssaultGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Tron Legacy sucked tho
@tbabubba32682
@tbabubba32682 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. Sleep was a great movie that nobody ever talks about. edit The shark exploding was a metaphor.
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates 3 жыл бұрын
I think the only thing I really hated was the stupid continuing trend of the “teal and pee yellow” CG color grading that has been ruining film cinematography for the past 2 decades.
@qty1315
@qty1315 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheRealNormanBates I'd blame Wall Street for that. Apparently, the reason it looks like that is because when you stare at the color for a long time you'll literally see green when you close your eyes. A bunch of people thought the idea was really cool and wanted to use it in their movies.
@Bluesit32
@Bluesit32 3 жыл бұрын
It really wasn't a metaphor. It was a "our original idea sucked so we're making it more like the original" sort of a thing. The shark was supposed to just bleed out after being stabbed with a massive wooden pole. Nobody liked it, so they added clips of Roy Shieder and made the shark detonate for no reason.
@Loner-Wolf
@Loner-Wolf 3 жыл бұрын
Aliens was a worthy successor to Ridley Scott's outstanding Alien film but H R Giger had an unflattering opinion of James Cameron's take on the Alien head design. Giger basically said it looked shit
@wanderinghistorian
@wanderinghistorian 3 жыл бұрын
Giger: "The head is crap, I can barely tell its in the shape of the penis. And where are all the vagina orifices? Pointless design."
@lars9925
@lars9925 3 жыл бұрын
The Problems with the Phantom Menace do not root in a changed tone, the changed tone is intended. It's meant as a different, "a more civilized age". There is no clear protagonist, the story is not focused and the dialog is wooden.
@nilkilnilkil
@nilkilnilkil 3 жыл бұрын
Thank god for a new Schmidt vid. I was going stale ...
@plipogamez3173
@plipogamez3173 3 жыл бұрын
How in the world is a video able to freshen you up? Next you'll be claming sharks can exolode.
@BlitheDream
@BlitheDream 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll tell you in 2 words “Cash grab”
@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881
@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881 3 жыл бұрын
It can still be done right even if it is. The godfather from novel to movie to sequel were exactly that.
@mordaciousfilms
@mordaciousfilms 3 жыл бұрын
Your level of dry deadpan is incredible. Well-played. Good points made, great discussion, and funny!
@IllIlllI
@IllIlllI 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, as described by Tom Scott : 1. it’s the „one hit wonder“ tragedy, 90% of everything is trash, if you made a banger movie, next one is most likely bad 2. after one hit wonder you as an „insert role“ try to „prove“ that you have ability’s outside the project you just had fame with. New story, characters, plot, whatever figment of imagination is blasting your mind in search of that epic chicken dinner 3. general chaos. New producer, new studio, more obligations, great pressure, that idiot fhead you have to work with. Everything was better on the first set, blah, blah (it probably was, that’s why it resulted in a good movie in the first place) 5. big cooperation wants big sucky moneys 6. cinemas, tv and internet are also doing something 7. sequel = suck Because most often Human = suck Ok i just realized you actually answered the question...
@HeyImRosko
@HeyImRosko 3 жыл бұрын
Daria riff was a nice touch 😉
@p00ky76
@p00ky76 3 жыл бұрын
It's a well known scientific fact that sharks explode & that's all you need to know. Glad I could clear that up for ya.
@fischX
@fischX 3 жыл бұрын
The art of story telling wasn't a business it was an art. Now it is a business and it isn't art anymore. Wait for "Snow White 2" now with extra dwarfs - and the role of Apple is played by Samsung, also the second act is now a lesbian.
@superpaul79
@superpaul79 3 жыл бұрын
In a perfect world, sequels are always better than the first film. Having said that, I will list some sequels that are better than the original. Feel free to join in. Gremlins 2: The New Batch Bill and Ted's Bogus Journey Captain America: Winter Soldier Party Doll A Go-Go! Part 2
@Cunnysmythe
@Cunnysmythe 3 жыл бұрын
The Sixth Sense had two twists. "I see dead people" was a twist that was spoiled by the trailer
@vaclav_fejt
@vaclav_fejt 3 жыл бұрын
You can spoil a twist, but you can't spoil a good movie. Like Star Wars, like 6th Sense.
@doemacmonkey
@doemacmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Shymalan & Cameron should sue- both the sixth sense & Titanic have the exact same premise - Icy Dead People.
@im3phirebird81
@im3phirebird81 3 жыл бұрын
@@vaclav_fejt Can you.... twist a spoil? Has it been done?
@valley_robot
@valley_robot 3 жыл бұрын
you see bruce willis die in the first 10 mins and people thought it was a shock surprise that he was a ghost , stupid movie
@doemacmonkey
@doemacmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
@@im3phirebird81 most movies ‘try’ to do that already - how many trailers have you watched where two shots are shown and you assume something about the plot but when you see the film the context is completely different and the two scenes are unrelated to each other - it’s done, but not done well.
@Caesar_Himself
@Caesar_Himself 3 жыл бұрын
I think it often (not always) goes something like this: Good film makes money. If we make a 'sequel' it will make a lot of money,. if the sequel is insipid trash it won't affect the money (people will go see it based on love of original). So if Money is likely without hard work and inspired casting/writing/research/TIME... then... Churning out simple minded guff and making easy money becomes a valid business model.
@dyveira
@dyveira 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty easy: money. When Hollywood smells blood in the water, a sequel is pretty much inevitable. The original plans for the Blair Witch sequel were actually pretty interesting, but it's clear that it was a film that was interfered with by the studio because they just didn't understand what the director was trying to do.
@billclay2678
@billclay2678 3 жыл бұрын
Jaws 4 ending Ending changes In the original theatrical version's ending, Ellen rammed the shark with Mike's boat, mortally wounding it. The shark then causes the boat to break apart with its death contortions, forcing the people on the boat to jump off to avoid going down with it. American audiences disapproved of this ending. Following this, a different ending was ordered to be shot for foreign distribution in which the shark gets stabbed with the bow sprit and then inexplicably explodes, with Jake being found wounded but alive. Universal used this ending on home media releases. It's a rumor that the Re-shooting of the ending prevented Michael Caine from collecting his Academy Award for Hannah and Her Sisters in person. He was filming when the awards were held. The reason why he didn't make the award show is because the production was behind schedule. The truth is that the re-shot ending began filming only five days after the film was released in the United States. The new ending was the version released in Europe. The new ending went over slightly better than the previous ending but this is the ending Universal released on Home video. The original ending can only be seen on cable broadcasts. The original ending however has not been released on any home video format. In his review of the film, Roger Ebert says that he cannot believe "that the director, Joseph Sargent, would film this final climactic scene so incompetently that there is not even an establishing shot, so we have to figure out what happened on the basis of empirical evidence."
@GuitarGuise
@GuitarGuise 3 жыл бұрын
Writing a comment, letting you know
@plipogamez3173
@plipogamez3173 3 жыл бұрын
I am disappointed Mr Stallone dicided to monetarily exploit Rambo and Rocky over the decades. In the initial films, those were the most intetesting action characters I have seen.
@AntonioCardenasT
@AntonioCardenasT 3 жыл бұрын
I rather watch all Rocky movies several times over before watching all the Terminator movies, at least Rocky and First Blood turned into good extremely different sort of movies as opposed to total crap. I mean rocky 6 and Creed are actually close to the first one.
@benbrooks621
@benbrooks621 3 жыл бұрын
So glad you're back making regular videos. Your video on the Rocky series is still one of my all time favourite videos on my all time favourite film series. Most people don't treat the Rocky films with the respect they deserve.
@Kevin_Street
@Kevin_Street 3 жыл бұрын
This is a good topic for you, since you used to do those videos about how series like Rocky and Aliens changed. I think it's a really interesting question. The Die Hard films are a good example of a surprise hit first film, followed by an attempt to recapture that success with a second film that didn't do as well, then a surprise hit third film that changed things up a bit, followed years later by two worthless by-the-numbers sequels. The most important element besides Bruce Willis appeared to be the director of the first and third films John McTiernan. Terminator is two good films directed and written by James Cameron, followed by a succession of sequels by other directors that try harder and harder to come up with ways to interest audiences when there was no logical path for a sequel after the second one. Unbreakable was maybe Shyamalan's best film after 6th Sense. Then he did Split years later, and tried to tie all three films together into a franchise with Glass, but it didn't work. You're right that he doesn't seem to understand the appeal of Unbreakable in the first place. He would've been better off making a movie about some completely different super character that loosely fits in the same universe. Give audiences a rough idea of what to expect (the universe of Unbreakable and Split) but no specific expectation that you then have to meet. For me the most amazing franchise of all is the James Bond films. Twenty-five movies about the same guy, and all of them successful! I've been watching the Bond films in order over the last year, and it's fascinating how the early movies filled in the parameters of a "Bond film" (not the same as the novels), then the later movies succeeded for a long time by remixing those elements and trying to improve on them. They didn't try to be original until the late 80's with Timothy Dalton, then lapsed back into remixing somewhere in the Pierce Brosnan years. The movies really did seem to be creatively exhausted then, but they reinvented themselves and renewed their popularity in 2006 with Casino Royale. But the current films then started remixing _themselves_ (instead of taking from earlier Bond), and now seem to be at a creative low point again. Anyway, it's fascinating to me how so many Bond movies are made with elements taken from earlier films, but the audience almost never gets bored if the directors are good enough at hiding it.
@mackinblack
@mackinblack 3 жыл бұрын
I want a t shirt that says: "WHY DID IT EXPLODE?"
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates 3 жыл бұрын
Or a shirt with Nicolas Cage saying “Why is it burned? _Why is it burned?!_ _WHY IS IT BURNED?!!”_
@JamesCarmichael
@JamesCarmichael 3 жыл бұрын
The shark exploded because of Nanomachines son.
@ShootMeMovieReviews
@ShootMeMovieReviews 3 жыл бұрын
There are so many reasons that may come into play. For instance, sometimes a 'sequel' is just an unrelated script re-worked to quickly fit into the franchise. Sometimes they simply try to provide 'more of the same' to turn movies into a comfort-substance rather than offering the audience anything new. Sometimes the seriously reduced budget means recruiting untalented creative teams. Sometimes a bloated budget leads to creation 'by committee'. The truth is, any good story is complete in and of itself. By their very nature, good stories don't require sequels. So to bring a fresh take and produce a worthy sequel is a rare thing. It means making an altogether new story, complete in itself, but that carries enough elements from the original forward to be recognizable as part of the franchise. That's never going to happen very often.
@catsupchutney
@catsupchutney 3 жыл бұрын
Highlander 2 was a crime against humanity.
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 3 жыл бұрын
I can think of far worse sequels. Like Alien 3, Cars 2 and Rise Of Skywalker.
@vasari9198
@vasari9198 3 жыл бұрын
Glass was a sequel to Unbreakable and Split, not Sixth Sense. Still, great video.
@JediBunny
@JediBunny 3 жыл бұрын
This thumbnail with the title alone are already perfect 😹
@IAmIronRaiden
@IAmIronRaiden 3 жыл бұрын
What a pleasant surprise to see the one and only Jedi Bunny in the comments!
@JediBunny
@JediBunny 3 жыл бұрын
@@IAmIronRaiden awww hey! So nice to see you here! Georg’s is one of my very favourite channels!
@IAmIronRaiden
@IAmIronRaiden 3 жыл бұрын
@@JediBunny He certainly does do some quality stuff. Your last video was as well! I look forward to seeing you around!
@JediBunny
@JediBunny 3 жыл бұрын
@@IAmIronRaiden thank you so much for saying so, I appreciate that so much!
@QuothTheRavenclaw11
@QuothTheRavenclaw11 3 жыл бұрын
@@JediBunny Good to see you!
@AreaNeofob
@AreaNeofob 3 жыл бұрын
One hundred points for not starting this video like "Oh, hey! I didn't see you there.".
@TroyUlysses
@TroyUlysses 3 жыл бұрын
Terminator Salvation is the best sequel because it did something different. The Terminator idea only works once. T2 was just a big budget remake. Evil Dead 2 is a bigger budget more accomplished version of the first. Rambo 2 is the best sequel we could hope for. He is a killing machine who didn't get to win... Sending him back into the jungle to "win" is a brilliant social experiment.
@hazardeur
@hazardeur 3 жыл бұрын
lost it at the "Book of Mordor"
@Enevan1968
@Enevan1968 3 жыл бұрын
2010 The Year We Make Contact was good : my 2 cents.
@wanderinghistorian
@wanderinghistorian 3 жыл бұрын
It helped me to understand the first film.
@Clay3613
@Clay3613 3 жыл бұрын
@@wanderinghistorian Lot less pointless filler of showing off the special effects.
@dcanmore
@dcanmore 3 жыл бұрын
@@Clay3613 that what sold the original, certainly not the pacing and dialogue lol!
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
@@wanderinghistorian you are not supposed to understand 2001. That's the whole point. It is vague on purpose. Kubrick made it so you can have a spiritual epiphany. So you ask the big question. There's no answer to the question but it is worthwhile to ask anyways.
@MrJohndoakes
@MrJohndoakes Жыл бұрын
8:58 When Michael Caine was asked if he had seen "Jaws: the Revenge" he responded: "I have never seen it but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built and it is terrific."
@OEMishGarage
@OEMishGarage 3 жыл бұрын
The exploding shark was a quick reshoot due to poor test audience reception, because clearly not having the shark explode was the only thing holding that movie back from being considered a cohesive film. It is also the reason why the exploding shark scene looks like it was filmed in a bathtub.
@kali3665
@kali3665 3 жыл бұрын
Rambo is a perfect example of this. The sequels depict a character that is 180% apart from the character from the first film. Rambo was a soldier with severe PTSD who HATED what the Vietnam war began; and the sequels are about a character who LOVES shooting everything within range. But I guess the author of the original book (David Morell) didn't have any problem with that; he wrote the novelization for the second film.
@jcohasset23
@jcohasset23 3 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair Morrell's book is quite a bit different from the first movie and the character of John Rambo is quite a bit different between the two mediums. In the book Rambo kills readily and it's only because Teasle was in the Korean War (as I remember) that he survives until the end when both shoot each other during the climax as every other civilian and deputy that tries to stop Rambo over the course of the book ends up dead from Rambo's hand. So in a lot of ways the John Rambo in the sequel movies is more alike with the first book's than the first movie's.
@kali3665
@kali3665 3 жыл бұрын
@@jcohasset23 Interesting. Thank you for clarifying.
@M2Mil7er
@M2Mil7er 3 жыл бұрын
Both Rocky and First Blood are masterpieces. While Stallone is no Gielgud, his performances in those films were compelling and well written. It's a shame he got the meathead reputation with subsequent, and increasingly more ridiculous sequels.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but they paid the bills.
@thestig863
@thestig863 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you whole-heartedly but for some reason Jaws 2 scared the hell out of me as a kid.
@sizzlechestmcmurphy4365
@sizzlechestmcmurphy4365 3 жыл бұрын
"Why did it explode?" "Don't know!" - Critical Drinker
@TheOmniscientAtheist
@TheOmniscientAtheist 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel, and I think that you are partially responsible for my elevated and eclectic taste in films right now. However, Dr Sleep (IMHO) did an amazing job as a sequel. Not only did it have to live up to the Stephen King novel but it also had to stay somewhat true to Kubricks' The Shining, which are two completely different entities. Blade Runner2049 in contrast I found lacking compared with the original, the concept was still there(as it was 40 years ago) but the execution seemed mediocre, maybe slightly worse than the original. Just my opinion, big love from Chesterfield, UK
@NickLaslett
@NickLaslett 3 жыл бұрын
The other amazing thing about Dr Sleep, is that Stephen King hated what Kubrick did with the Jack Torrance character, so the film maker was juggling the legacy of two creative genius, seeking to honour them both and right the wrong of the mischaracterisation in the film version of The Shining. The film is different from the book for that reason. An amazing hybrid.
@Gayestskijumpever
@Gayestskijumpever 3 жыл бұрын
I thought World War 2 was a good sequel to World War 1. Had a better protagonist.
@Games_and_Music
@Games_and_Music 3 жыл бұрын
They also greatly expanded on the plot and the action, the budget was through the roof.
@TheRealNormanBates
@TheRealNormanBates 3 жыл бұрын
It also has *2* antagonists!
@RCAvhstape
@RCAvhstape 3 жыл бұрын
I may be an outlier but when I first saw Terminator 2 I didn't like it, mainly because in the beginning of the film Arnold doesn't kill anyone at the biker bar. Remember, this was before Conner ordered him to avoid killing people; his only mission was to protect John Conner but he was still a terminator and should've killed at least 3 or 4 of those bikers who stood in his way. That and skatepunk Conner annoyed me. Later on I learned to like the movie because of Robert Patrick's superb T-1000 performance but I still have issues with it. T1 is my favorite of the series, complete with old school Carpenter-style synth soundtrack.
@pixxelwizzard
@pixxelwizzard 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard stories where a script writer is procured to write the sequel, attempts to capture the theme and the feel of the first movie, and guys in suits pick the script apart and say it doesn't have enough "sharks," or whatever. For example, do some research on the prequel to The Thing. It's so sad.
@reddskair9523
@reddskair9523 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, entertainment! Give my life meaning!
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