When Should You Fix Your Engine Cold Start Rattle | Important Things That Are Often Missed

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A Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician Shares information on when you should fix your engine cold start rattle and more important things that are often missed when this repair is done
In this video we stop a job at the shop half way to show you what actually happens when rattling VVT-I gears go unfixed for long and what complications arise.
Also I share with you a criteria so you'd know when exactly to perform this repair so you're not doing it too early but also not too late where other damage can happen.
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0:00 Intro
0:18 Example of Cold Start Rattle
0:28 What Happens When They Are Not Fixed
3:52 When Should You Fix It?
11:14 New Parts Important Information
15:21 Why This Problem Happens

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@Stanjara Жыл бұрын

Best ability a mechanic can have is to diagnose WHAT have happened, and WHY. Thank you AMD for your honesty and knowledge.

@reeksreeks3017 Жыл бұрын

Understanding is everything

@devonschutz6200 Жыл бұрын

Yeah

@carlosortiz6742 Жыл бұрын

We're not working on chevys. 🤣

@yesterdaysyouth593 Жыл бұрын

Shots fired!!!😂😂😂😂

@shyro76 Жыл бұрын

@That V8 Life that’s not really a valid argument though. Let’s be real here. Unless you’re going with a GR product, you’re not buying a Toyota because you want an “ impressive “ car. You buy it because there’s a solid chance that it will literally outlast almost every other brand you can compare it to. Having a “ fun “ car stops being “ fun “ when it starts breaking down unless you either have enough money to throw at whatever issues keep popping up or unless you have enough money to just throw the whole car away and buy a new one altogether

@gregjohnson2073 Жыл бұрын

@That V8 Life What are they?

@shyro76 Жыл бұрын

@That V8 Life okay, and?

@motionelco Жыл бұрын

@@shyro76 I have a friend that has replaced his transmission and engine already in his Toyota. Prior to that he had other major repairs. Anyways , he drives his car like a rental. So abuse a car and it will wear down faster.

@assyrianking44 Жыл бұрын

As an Assyrian Christian from Iraq, I love all the work you do, and it makes me so proud someone from my country who is a Christian doing all the best he can do to succeed is succeeding while at the same time putting his faith in his work and his religion and sharing it to the world. I am completely proud of all the progress you’ve made throughout the beginning of your channel. May the Lord bless you and keep you too!

@jonathanratliff4780 Жыл бұрын

AMEN!!

@interesting7906 Жыл бұрын

With all due respect, unless most other Assyrian Christians are scam artists, what does the religion have to do with anything? I don't give a sh*t about jesus or religion in general but I have pride in my job and integrity like my father thought me. That's all you need to do the job honestly and correctly.

@DUNEATV Жыл бұрын

👍🏻👍🏻

@ozarklife9996 Жыл бұрын

Everyone should be able to speak what's in their heart. If its positive so much the better.

@maxforever26 Жыл бұрын

Great Comment!’

@DosJof5118 Жыл бұрын

Car Care Nut you are my hero. I have a 2013 Rav4 AWD with a 2AR-FE engine. Rav4 has just over 80k and has the noticeable cold start rattle. I'm an ASE-certified mechanic but left the auto industry long ago to work on aircraft instead. Your attention to detail and experience give me the confidence to tackle these types of repairs to help my Toyota live a long happy life. Thank you.

@RotoRCol Жыл бұрын

just curious why you changed to aircraft stuff? better payment or do you enjoy turbines lol? I am almost in the same path as you, thanks

@76fordjunky Жыл бұрын

I have been a mechanic for 30 years, I have replaced more than my fair share of GM 3.6 chains, that's why I buy Toyota and Honda as daily driver

@greghaselhorst8649 Жыл бұрын

Your customers are so lucky to have you as their mechanic

@seymourscagnetti1413 Жыл бұрын

Me: 2012 Camry LE 4cyl. Brief rattle on cold start up. Rattle started at 68k. Temporary solution to prevent rattle/damage until you sell car or fix (replace gear): Have a spare ignition key cut (from a blank without a transponder) Home depot will do this for $3.00. The key will open the door and crank the engine (won't start it). When car is cold, insert spare key and crank engine for 5 seconds. Remove spare, insert transponder key and start the engine. You are building oil pressure and sending oil to the gear without starting the engine making the rattle less noticeable or eliminating it. Again, only a temporary solution to help reduce potential cold start damage.

@ahmadghosheh3104 Жыл бұрын

I did the procedures on my 03 2.4 L 2AZ-FE without pulling the timing cover. BIG MISTAKE. No matter how hard and careful I was the timing was off and when I started it it sounded like a sewing machine also the new gear was damaged and had to get a new one. I did go through the lock procedure. I redid the job and did the timing chain, guides, dears, sprockets, and tensioner. The chain was also stretched by 1.5 links. I did replace the guides because they fell apart a soon as i took them out.

@m.b8257 Жыл бұрын

I love your passion for doing a great job on Toyota product, keep up the good work and keep the videos coming.

@carlosortiz6742 Жыл бұрын

It truly is impressive.

@sheerwillsurvival2064 Жыл бұрын

Love your honesty and integrity doing it right 👊🏻👍🏻

@cayman9873 Жыл бұрын

Love learning and love your honest approach to keeping toyotas running

@user-cq5wt8ir6m 10 ай бұрын

A cheap fix that worked for Me. AMD is a true Toyota Master Diagnostic Technician indeed. I have learned a lot from this Man's videos, and much appreciate his contributions to You Tube. I have a 2011 Toyota Camry with the 2.5l engine and Have been listening to this "cold start rattle" for years. Watching this video at the 15:25 section, where Amd disassembles the vvti gear, It appears , when it gets oil pressure, the rattle stops and there was no real wear as a result.. So, in the fuse panel by the hood release, I located and removed the 8th fuse, a 15 amp labelled "INJ" ( I assume this shuts off the fuel injectors). I engaged the starter for 3 seconds, shut the key off, reinstalled the fuse, started the car...and there was .NO RATTLE..I have tried this 3 times, with the car sitting for 5 days at 1 point, and there has been No rattle on cold start up. I have devised a set up, so I do not have to remove the fuse each time , so I can engage the starter for 3 or 4 seconds without the engine starting, before a cold start. Please note: I am NOT a professional. Please consult a "professional" before attempting this procedure.

@billyrobertsonguitar 3 ай бұрын

@user-cq5wt8ir6m, I hope you see my comment, I love AMD’s videos to educate myself before tearing into my car, but you really have my respect! Thank you for sharing what you tried!!!

@cncaliguy09 Жыл бұрын

one of the best automotive maintenance repair videos on KZfaq.

@petreberceanu8798 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video and your dedication and commitment! Learned a lot today.

@frank23103 Жыл бұрын

Best mechanic show ever Great work !!!

@callmebackfriday2 Жыл бұрын

This is exactly the video I am looking for. Thanks for sharing. 😁

@naidadad9311 Жыл бұрын

Best advice: Thanjs so much. Our world should have more people like you:

@Zephyrdaze1819 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely fascinating. I’ll never attempt this, but it’s wonderful to understand how some things happen inside the engine. Thank you so much.

@alexshapley8331 Жыл бұрын

Ditto

@dmbfannh Жыл бұрын

I don't even own a Toyota but I still watch his videos all the time!!!

@coloradoboo1071 Жыл бұрын

@@dmbfannh Yep my family, locally, owns 6 Toyotas (2008 to 2021) and I maintain and fix them all…this channel gets watched a lot!! AMD is a blessing!!

@bearpuf Жыл бұрын

Double Ditto. I really appreciate AMD's thoughtful way of explaining things and advice.

@damienbell3155 Жыл бұрын

I wouldn’t attempt this job either. Not like changing a starter lol.

@iamredrunt172 Жыл бұрын

Again. AMD knows his stuff. I like his shop. Nice and clean and good high end tools.

@streetfightertutorial Жыл бұрын

The vvti explained so everyone, mechanically inclined or not, can understand how it operates. Thanks for sharing this.

@markkrispin6944 Жыл бұрын

Thanks again AMD for sharing your wisdom on this important information 👍

@nunosantos8719 11 ай бұрын

For me it' s a pleasure to assist to your explanations and videos. Thank your very much.

@ppheanix Жыл бұрын

This man is proud of his workmanship -- a rare quality AND owners get value for their money. Well done sir -- a man after my own heart ! By the way, I would love to see the "Design FMEA" that *should have been done* by Toyota engineers for the top guide -- they should have identified the likelihood that the tab would break and found a way to prevent that occurrence.

@underdog2594 Жыл бұрын

Great video! The lighting under the hood was perfect.

@shawnbelford3433 Жыл бұрын

Really helps to understand how it works. Great job!

@krishall3187 Жыл бұрын

Thank you AMD. Was not aware to lock the gear once installed.

@fieldsofomagh Жыл бұрын

What I like about this channel 👍 is the attention to detail as well as the brilliant advice and the reasons that the faults develop in the first place.

@rightlanehog3151 Жыл бұрын

AMD, Thanks for the stability of your guidance on this important issue 😁

@chuckhursch5374 Жыл бұрын

Every one of your videos, I learn something new and worthwhile 👍🏻

@Len10293 Жыл бұрын

Your skills set never stop amaze me. Now because of you I have better understanding what happens inside of the engine every time I am driving my Toyota

@user-jw1gw5xu6x Жыл бұрын

Much respect, and thank you for the detailed explanation. I've spent hours on different videos trying to figure out what else I need to replace on my mom's 2009 RAV4 besides vvt gears, and you just nailed it. Now I can go to sleep 😁 good luck to you man!

@chooseknowledge2859 Жыл бұрын

Just bought a 2009 Vibe, and this was an incredibly useful and educational video for the issue I'm facing. Thank you!

@wyomikey65 8 ай бұрын

Getting ready to do this job myself. Just got my genuine Toyota VVT gear. Came back to watch this as a refresher. I always enjoy these videos.

@jimelfman1369 Жыл бұрын

LOVE the new camera! New guy quickly becoming a professional photograher!

@blueyfi Жыл бұрын

Love watching your videos, you explain things so well, definitely a great mechanic and a Toyota Guru 👍👍👏👏 Cheers Bluey

@cxd1 10 ай бұрын

You’re telling me pretty much what my mechanic told me so this makes me feel a lot better about still driving the car. In that second stage of when you should fix it but I should have the money next week. Thanks for the video.

@tracker335 11 ай бұрын

The only Toyota You Tube channel you need !

@garyalford9394 Жыл бұрын

Thank you AMD you carefully explained alot of the mysteries !

@chrisso6903 Жыл бұрын

Oh how I have learnt so much from Mrs Car-nut and Yourself Mr Car-nut! She puts the camera right on the spot in Question and you do your work. I love watching all your vids as I was a older mechanic for years but I'm still learning. Thanks for putting out these informative vids and may the lord Bless and keep you both and family so we keep getting these wonderful vids! Thanks Again from Australia. Aussie chris. 🇦🇺

@damarpo5467 7 ай бұрын

You're an awesome tech!!!! awesome knowledge and craftmanship.!

@wespotter6985 Жыл бұрын

I love this channel! Too bad all techs are not like this gentleman

@Thecloudsshepherd Жыл бұрын

Love your videos! you have such a soft and pleasant voice.

@brianrichards5538 8 ай бұрын

Wow - the Hercule Poirot of Toyota repair videos. Absolutely superb, sir.

@jamesyoder8705 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Thanks for the detailed description of the failure points!!

@jasonpaetznick5728 Жыл бұрын

He is absolutely right. I just had this fixed on my toyota rav4 2011.

@michaelhargarten5118 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for putting out this informative video. I have a 2AZ-FE and it has this issue. With over 220,000 miles, I'll definitely need to do this job.

@bwest-yq3uc Жыл бұрын

I have great respect for a mechanic that does this job in a PROFESSIONAL manner and not shaft the customer in the process. I would never attempt this repairs myself but I learned a lot watching this video.Thanks, AMD for this video.

@petesmitt Жыл бұрын

It's somewhat rare nowadays to get a tradesperson that is both competent and ethical..

@topofthetrail Жыл бұрын

I'd love to see a complete, start-to-finish video for this job. From what I see here, you haven't reached the part where a diy'er like me would be in over my head or need too many new tools that I'd only use once or twice. It's a common enough job that lots of people would watch a how-to video from the best Toyota mechanic in the world, you! I'm a real fan.

@jacobdunnohew23 5 ай бұрын

same

@jayveecee1 Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much my Brother, I learned a lot, God bless you much more!

@Maxwelshouse1 10 ай бұрын

What a great day! I plan to do this on my boys 13 rav4 2.5

@raymond82807 Жыл бұрын

Amazing content as always. Really well done and super interesting,Thanks!

@JonesCoWoodworks Жыл бұрын

Thank you for making this video. I’m in the middle of replacing the timing components on my 06 Scion xb 1.5 1NZ-FE and I received a 8 piece timing kit that was supposed to be new and when I opened it up the bag that had the VVT gear in it had been cut open and it immediately threw up a red flag to me. I started to send it back right then and there and now I wish that I would have because after watching this video I learned that the gear was locked and if I hadn’t watched this video I would have definitely tried to install it and then I would have blamed myself when the whole thing went bad again. That being said I am forever grateful to you for your expertise and experience with this product.

@domdomdominoes6128 Жыл бұрын

And he got a vvti video..thanks for the o2 sensor video! I learned everything I need from that video 👏👍

@josee.borrerodejesus9490 Жыл бұрын

I really love the pride that you put into toyotas...!!! I work on diferent brands and toyotas are my money maker...!!!

@wilsonreyes7258 Жыл бұрын

Legendary we are not working on chevys and bmws😱😱so true master

@deidaramartinez847 Жыл бұрын

Glad I came across this vid my 11 Corolla 1.8L started making this noise recently only for a second tho , I originally thought it was the starter.

@riceburner4747 Жыл бұрын

U are so dog gone interesting!! U know, if ur back gives out, u could always be a professor/ teacher! That engine is IMMACULATE!! CAN'T believe how clean cam/ head looks. Once again, thank u!

@JB-he1jt Жыл бұрын

Another very informative video AMD! Currently own 2 camrys a 2012/ 2014 and had not seen how these parts work or fail. I'm a tooling technician by trade and work on my cars so this is very doable for me and thank you for explaining in detail!👈👍

@FrikandelXXXXL Жыл бұрын

I used to have a Lexus IS300H (2AR-FSE) and the sound always annoyed me… The dealer didn’t had any idea what it was (‘ah sir, it’s a product feature’, that’s the standard comment these days), but now everything is clear! Big compliments for your knowledge and patience… You’re KZfaq-channel is superb!

@craigblonsky8970 2 ай бұрын

I genuinely found myself going from what is wrong with my car to this is very interesting to learn about!

@WilliamBrown-vf9ou Жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Fascinating. I really liked your discussion about what can happen if you just ignore this problem. My wife's car (not a Toyota) has been making this exact same startup noise for years. I'm hesitant to spend the big bucks to fix it. The noise has never really gotten worse (so far) and I listen for it all the time to make sure. Now I have a much better idea of what kind of risk I might be taking -- whoo boy! The car is a 2011 Elantra. I've heard that the noise can also be due to a faulty timing chain tensioner.

@R121973 Жыл бұрын

Great video, I have a 2014 Camry with 38k miles with that engine,it sounds just for 1 second, I'll be monitoring it.

@N20Joe Жыл бұрын

My '09 corolla does this every once in a long while. Definitely going to keep an ear on it for now.

@TJzzl86 Жыл бұрын

I've been heading this on my wife's Camry for a few years now but didn't think much of it. I'm glad you said "this is not a Chevy." Because it does sound like hydraulic lifters getting pumped up at cold start. Thank you for this. We'll have to find a dealer because I'm not comfortable doing this in the yard.

@panama926 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for this very well presented informational video!. It helped me get my brother's VVT sprocket replaced the proper way and with great results.

@martinlugus7242 Жыл бұрын

Watching you work and explain things is always a singular pleasure.

@multirotormanish7220 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video!!! Straight forward and informative. Thanks so much!!!

@AmeriFanPicker Жыл бұрын

Love your channel. Best there is. Learned so much. Much if way above my head but still…gives me confidence when I do go into a wrenching project I haven’t done before. Currently have 04 Matrix XRS with 255k miles (still runs like a bay out of hell but timing cover gasket leaks like a screen door on a submarine…will one day get the cajonnes to attempt that job). Other car is a 04 Vibe 1zz at 189k miles. Love em both.

@montymuseitef53 Жыл бұрын

Yes I learned something again. Thank you so much !!

@Czechbound Жыл бұрын

I've never seen before where someone takes the time to *explain* why things happen, and the consequences thereof with VVTI. Thank you and greetings from Prague. Czech Republic

@iderik01 3 ай бұрын

So clear explanation of things! Fantastic!!!

@michaelgalimi940 Жыл бұрын

It is very rare to find a mechanic like this I mean as well as being honest watch how he handles his tools smooth no roughness anywhere even when pulling apart the vvt gear the vice handle gently gets put back a true craftsman Well explained well filmed I really love watching this guy amazing and so true while Toyota s may not be that exciting customers quickly get over that as they do thousands of kms of trouble free motoring Looking forward to the next video👍

@vinzmagnus1528 Жыл бұрын

This Video should be used as Instruction Video for Toyota Car Technicians and people who work on Toyotas. Great explanation and i hope my Toyota with the 1NR- FE won't be in such a trouble in the future but in case i know what to do now. Best regards from germany

@snakepliskinsnake 8 ай бұрын

2011 Chrysler 3.6 penstar. I have been looking for this solution video for 5 year's.. Thanks much love ❤️.

@cbspock1701 Жыл бұрын

Very informative. I have a Toyota RAV4 6cyl with 220,000 miles haven’t come across this issue but have had other issues that I have gotten fixed

@rictic1929 Жыл бұрын

Another great education thanks for all the wisdom

@chadg6874 Жыл бұрын

This video was extremely helpful! I would never attempt to do this type of work as a DIYer, but man it helps to know the little details watching someone who knows what they're doing taking it apart. I bought a 2011 Highlander yesterday and have checked it out carefully and test driven it... But not from a cold start. I'll know Friday when I pick it up if it has this problem, and if so, how far along in the problem it is. I feel that someday I'll have to fork over the dough to get this job done, just a matter of timing the decision based off of the level of deterioration... If there's any.. funny thing is I decided against getting a Honda CR-V for a similar known issue with those, called VTC actuator. Almost identical symptoms. I didn't research the highlander as thoroughly because in my experience, the only things that break on Toyotas are parts that break on ANY car... Engine and transmission are usually not even something you'd have to think about. I guess it's not all that bad, knowing what I know now, and I am better prepared to assess it if / when it comes, and not just freak out (or even worse, get comfortable with living with it) like I would have otherwise lol. Love your videos keep em coming! Thanks!

@stldigitalmemories Жыл бұрын

I have a 21 year old Tundra with 160K miles. I don't have any significant problems (but there are some minor ones). It would be a blast to have it checked on your YT video. Your shop is only a 4 hour drive. It would be totally worth the time.

@Blakecryderman7244 Жыл бұрын

@stdigitalmemories dam your Tundra is barely broken in. 160K miles is not much for a tundra. Scotty Kilmer had a 2000 model on his channel with 400K miles, & it even pulled an 18,000 pound trailer for 400 miles. Pretty incredible. Those old tundras are bulletproof keep your frame rinsed off & your truck will last you a lifetime

@stldigitalmemories Жыл бұрын

@@Blakecryderman7244 Toyota replaced my transmission for free at 75K miles and they replaced my frame at 110K miles. I replaced the exhaust and manifolds not long ago. I have some minor issues with the 4 wheel drive not always locking, otherwise it works great. Thx.

@Blakecryderman7244 Жыл бұрын

@@stldigitalmemories that is literally like the first time I’ve ever heard of a tundra transmission going out at such low miles. You sure you take care of it? The 4WD not always locking, that is usually from shifting into 4WD after not moving the shift lever for years, and the truck won’t be used to it. The old saying goes use it or lose it.

@stldigitalmemories Жыл бұрын

@@Blakecryderman7244 Thx. The dealership told me transmission issues rarely happen, but they do see it and I was lucky it was still under warranty. The dealership was paid $12K from Toyota for the frame replacement. At 110K miles, they broke a lot of bolts and I ended up with new shocks and misc mounts. The truck is my weekend vehicle mostly for hauling things to/from my ranch. Every couple of weeks I swap it with my daily driver to give it some exercise.

@AbramSari 2 ай бұрын

Great video brother. May the Lord bless you and keep you as well! Thank you.

@litoloco4fish Жыл бұрын

thank you for this valuable lesson my friend...things you showed only experience will know

@russellhancock9765 Жыл бұрын

I would definitely be glad that You checked it.

@chabssperformance1442 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this AMD I've got a 2013 Toyota Camry with 100.000kms and have had the VVTI Rattle since new at cold start. I will definitely be looking more into Replacing The VVTI Gear ⚙️ in the near future. Thank you and God Bless 🙏

@arthurgiannakis2156 Жыл бұрын

This is the best ever walkthrough and detailed explanation of the cause of the VVTI cold start rattle I have ever seen. You are worth your weight in gold going through all this in meticulous detail. Makes all other video attempts I've seen instantly redundant on this topic, especially the fine detail about not locking the new VVTI gear until it's been mounted. We had the cold start rattle on our 2002 Celica for a few years (never lasted for more than a second or two on startup) and in May this year we took it in for service for this exact issue. The mechanic got the entire kit. Timing cover kit, new chain, new chain tensioner, all new guides, new VVTI intake gear and all the gaskets to complete the job. Some items may not have needed replacing but we replaced the lot because really how often would we open the timing cover for this kind of service and there is no point skimping when it comes to the timing system on an interference engine. We probably wont ever need to do this again. The Celica has no more cold start rattle The car has done over 300,000 km, burns very very little oil and drives beautifully. Great video.

@whoknows8678 Жыл бұрын

How much did all that cost to fix?

@arthurgiannakis2156 Жыл бұрын

@@whoknows8678 About $1,100 AUD

@whoknows8678 Жыл бұрын

@@arthurgiannakis2156 Ouch. That sucks for what I consider to be very likely a design flaw. Even TCN was talking about the VVTi gears like they were a bad design and caused timing chain issues.

@yal100 Жыл бұрын

My goodness that was fun and informative to see.

@scotto827 Жыл бұрын

Ugh, sounds like I am gonna be spending some money soon. My 2010 Rav4 has 203k on it and has had this issue on every start since I bought it 30k miles ago. Thanks for being so detailed with every step and the surrounding issues related to the repairs you are demonstrating.

@knuff242 Жыл бұрын

Disregard the negativity. I see all my favorite channels dealing with the negativity. You are one of the best, forget about these keyboard mechanics. Keep up the great work. If you are hiring, I’d move to work for you. I’d be grateful to be in that shop, even run the floor scrubber and take out the trash to be around a master like yourself.

@utushaful Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for sharing your videos ❤

@andyg5004 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video Ahmed.

@henrystowe6217 Жыл бұрын

This guy knows his stuff. I would like to see how he would address a valve ticking on the 1zmfe v6 Toyota/Lexus 3.0 engine

@mikewk2256 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing little details when doing such a repair. Does the 2ZR-FAE also have these problems? I hope to see a valvematic replacement vid.

@andymaccallum7924 11 ай бұрын

Thank you very much for such a great video on this. Take care

@carlosestrada298 Жыл бұрын

You're completely right about Chevys!

@wfyfwfyf Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir for the informative video. I'm getting a Rav4 soon and this is helpful.

@ralphgirard6091 Жыл бұрын

I just noticed this rattle on my wifes Prius yesterday morning. I watched the video, and my wife just took her prius in to the dealer today. Thankfully it's still under warranty!

@tolrem Жыл бұрын

So interesting.You explain it so well.

@eduardosolorzano9115 10 ай бұрын

I like what you said at the end, may the Lord continue to bless you. Thank you.. you are an expert and very informative you should consider being an instructor. First time seeing your videos .

@LuckyCharms777 Жыл бұрын

Very informative video. Good to know what I need to watch out for. Thanks.

@johnkiefer66 16 күн бұрын

AMD, thanks for the channel and all the great information. I have had success on 2008 avalon 315k miles cold rattle. changed valve cover gaskets and oil vvt seals on valve cover. Rattle gone! 🎉 Thank you for sharing!