When The Piston is Broken, New One is Not Found, The Process Of Casting A New Piston

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29 күн бұрын

When The Piston is Broken, New One is Not Found, The Process Of Casting A New Piston

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@interestedparty8942
@interestedparty8942 3 күн бұрын
I've lived in the so called third world and they are geniuses in the get it done, make it work, and within the affordability of their customers. These hard working folks in dangerous workshops with no benefits and no safety equipment will rule the world. This is how China started and look at how they have come to be an industrial juggernaut. As a foundry owner and a machinist I have nothing but respect.
@nugene57
@nugene57 26 күн бұрын
doing what they can but that casing is full of porosity
@firstlast-ty4di
@firstlast-ty4di 21 күн бұрын
I love soaking up the wisdom of the keyboard engineers in the comments.
@fasullodavvero
@fasullodavvero 17 күн бұрын
@firstlast-ty4di Amico mio, tra gli " ingegneri delle tastiere" nei commenti potrebbero esserci ingenieri laureati,meccanici (come me) che hanno lavorato sui motori per >25 anni e che magari hanno montato decine o centinaia di pistoni nuovi,cioè gente che di motori ne capisce sicuramente più dei "tecnici" nel video,tecnici che ignorano unità di misura come il centesimo o il millesimo di millimetro,i loro "strumenti di misura" lo dimostrano...
@firstlast-ty4di
@firstlast-ty4di 17 күн бұрын
@@fasullodavvero Yes, many comments are valid, but many others are very uninformed. These Pakistani workers are not attempting to make pistons for a Formula I racing engine. "Hundredth or thousandth of a millimeter" (.0004" or .00004") are not needed here. I'm guessing that the tolerances on the design drawings for the original piston are much looser than that. These workers showed some very intelligent improvising. Did you notice how the broken piston was wrapped with a thick material to make a pattern for the sand mold? That was to allow for the thermal shrinkage of the new casting. Making a new pattern would be very expensive. Chucking the piston on the lathe to bore the wrist-pin hole also impressed me. Keyboard warriors tend to diminish the skills of workers in developing nations only because of their lack of access to modern machines and instruments.
@fasullodavvero
@fasullodavvero 17 күн бұрын
@@firstlast-ty4di Amico mio,sono cosciente del fatto che quei meccanici,fonditori,tornitori fanno quello che possono con quello che hanno,ma in casi simili è solo tempo sprecato,quanto alle tolleranze,non è questione di F1 o altro,anzi,è proprio il contrario,fare un pistone che duri molto è più difficile,specie se non disponi del know-how e i materiali per farlo,io ho studiato in una scuola professionale prima e fatto il meccanico per >25 anni poi e non ci provo nemmeno a produrre un pistone,al 99,99% sarebbe un fallimento,già solo riprodurre correttamente il profilo del pistone è impossibile se non hai le misure corrette (i pistoni *NON* hanno lo stesso diamentro in tutti i punti)e le differenze si misurano in determinati punti in centesimi di mm...
@firstlast-ty4di
@firstlast-ty4di 16 күн бұрын
@@fasullodavvero The need for precision, itself, is a vast area of study. Approaches such as six-sigma examine how tolerances and variability of finished parts influence to performance of a completed system. There is a point where increased precision will not improve quality commensurate with cost. I don't know whether the piston produced in this video will be put into an engine or whether it is only a demonstration. I do think that the method shown can be useful in situations where supply-chain delays are prohibitive and a piece of equipment must be put back into service quickly. In the USA (or Italy) mechanics and engineers take great pride in being ably to order a new piston and take delivery the same or next day. The piston will be shiny and meet all manufacturer tolerances. Of course, we wouldn't go to a foundry and machine shop with drawings and ask to have one made. We have industrial resources not available in Pakistan. That does mean that we are superior mechanics or engineers. To me "keyboard engineers" have false pride in the good fortunes of their birth places. I would liken them to those who would ridicule someone in a wheelchair.
@fasullodavvero
@fasullodavvero 16 күн бұрын
@@firstlast-ty4di Perfetto, vedo che *NON* hai capito quale sia il punto,cioè che il lavoro che vediamo in questo video è semplicemente inutile,la fortuna non c'entra,quando non ci sono ricambi, si butta tutto,quello che vediamo nel filmato è "accanimento terapeutico" , è come voler curare la peste con l'aspirina,non solo non guarisci,ma spendi denaro per curarti...
@MrCarl-fq6nf
@MrCarl-fq6nf 22 күн бұрын
I wonder how long this piston will last. Inclusions and casting defects will cause the piston to explode 😅😅
@ntal5859
@ntal5859 20 күн бұрын
It will last just as long as the one your local parts dealer imports, why do you think they can supply you with a piston for few bucks, because they are made in 3rd world countries.
@dayleedwards3521
@dayleedwards3521 16 күн бұрын
These guys cam make anything, even weld broken crankshafts, stuff the western engineers cannot do.
@martinda7446
@martinda7446 6 күн бұрын
@@dayleedwards3521 Er...You do NOT want to go there...
@interestedparty8942
@interestedparty8942 3 күн бұрын
Long enough and at a cost comensurate to the income of their customers. More than I can say in the West.
@user-wn7mu3cm3k
@user-wn7mu3cm3k 27 күн бұрын
Километров на 500 должно хватить
@bga_mod5322
@bga_mod5322 27 күн бұрын
хотя бы на 100 и то если не заводить..
@mbury8004
@mbury8004 23 күн бұрын
🤣🤣
@user-zp9sp5lz7q
@user-zp9sp5lz7q 19 күн бұрын
Газануть под нагрузкой в одну горочку и хватит. Кольцо от теплового расширения никто не заливал, спав тоже нанотехналогичный, наверно из таких же поршней. Так что все это дело быстренько размажет по цилиндру и компрессия тю-тю.
@andrewgruzdev9631
@andrewgruzdev9631 18 күн бұрын
А если бы они залепили на холодную сварку тот поршень, который им чувак принёс, в начале видео, то хватило бы на тыщу, без этих танцев с бубном. ))))
@ricksadler797
@ricksadler797 19 күн бұрын
They wear shoes 👞 in this one ,,, must be osha makein changes
@garymitchell6897
@garymitchell6897 20 күн бұрын
We used to make pistons from semi finished ones and they had a taper smaller towards the crown a nd a cam grind as they expand more across the gudguon boss. The crown was round where the rings go. That will seize.
@oo0Spyder0oo
@oo0Spyder0oo 19 күн бұрын
If they seized these guys wouldn’t be wasting their time making them daily would they? You lot are negative nannies about everything these guys do, if it’s not pointing out a thousand times about their footwear, safety or other, the you attack their product. Go watch some other channel then.
@garymitchell6897
@garymitchell6897 19 күн бұрын
I think what they do is amazing with what they have at hand and am not rubbishing them that is why I enjoy watching them. What I am saying is what I know from making pistons and am intrigued as to how they will last. Ps you know more than I do after having been in the industry most of my working life?
@user-xc1ez6tq1f
@user-xc1ez6tq1f 11 күн бұрын
0​@@oo0Spyder0oo
@stephengibbs4372
@stephengibbs4372 3 күн бұрын
It’s also easy enough to make them oval in a 4 Jaw chuck and harden them as well the only other issue I can see is that the original would ofhad strengthening steel plates cast in and sometimes alphan inserts made of steel for the top ring to stop wear. But they do their best.
@anythinggoesgarage5943
@anythinggoesgarage5943 7 күн бұрын
pretty good but what about pin fit, pin boss machining, pin clip retention grooves, and oil return holes, balance? alot to do yet
@TimPBar
@TimPBar 22 күн бұрын
Hey Bruh, that piston you made last week didn't go 10 miles.
@deplorablelibertarian
@deplorablelibertarian 22 күн бұрын
They got no other choice but to make their own...too many import/export restrictions. They are in a tough spot.
@johntower64
@johntower64 12 күн бұрын
Hey Bruh, that comment you made last week didn't got 10 likes.
@paulkurilecz4209
@paulkurilecz4209 27 күн бұрын
What alloy are you using? piston with a little bit of valve cover. 🙂
@ntal5859
@ntal5859 20 күн бұрын
Hey it was a piston before, so the alloy must be right.
@paulkurilecz4209
@paulkurilecz4209 19 күн бұрын
@@ntal5859 Yes it is. It is piston alloy. The addition of valve cover improves the casting fluidity. 🙂
@jimfarmer7811
@jimfarmer7811 27 күн бұрын
If it wasn't for Pakistan's import restrictions they probably could have bought a new piston for what it cost them in fuel to melt the aluminum.
@glennchartrand5411
@glennchartrand5411 20 күн бұрын
The average wage in Pakistan is $300 a month and coal is cheap.
@ntal5859
@ntal5859 20 күн бұрын
@@glennchartrand5411 But it clearly was done with Diesel fuel. Are you blind ?
@glennchartrand5411
@glennchartrand5411 19 күн бұрын
@@ntal5859 Diesel under forced air burns blue , not orange. It was either used engine oil or coal. Since you can see a coal pit and a beat up drum next to the forge , they probably use whatever's available that day.
@rowevilar
@rowevilar 10 күн бұрын
À. ,aaqllqllaAa as aaaaaaaaaaaaaa​@@ntal5859
@anteneupitra
@anteneupitra 4 күн бұрын
they use very cheap coal
@cevdetcatal1128
@cevdetcatal1128 27 күн бұрын
ALLAH KOLAYLIK VERSIN KARDEŞİM
@timhull8664
@timhull8664 Күн бұрын
Wonder if it weighs the same as the others, ans absolutely love the chuck bite marks on skirt.. 😂
@citymagnum4734
@citymagnum4734 15 күн бұрын
Notice how they need to melt at least 5 other pistons in order to cast a single new one. Sure, you need some extra for the casting ports and the slag losses, but it seems too much still.
@wowmechanics8172
@wowmechanics8172 27 күн бұрын
Wowo
@csabadoth4838
@csabadoth4838 16 күн бұрын
Can anyone confirm this but that piston looked like a cummins piston ... plus the engine block at the end as well ??????
@MS00761
@MS00761 27 күн бұрын
impossible work 😮😮
@tonycooper14
@tonycooper14 18 күн бұрын
This bloke knows his shit 😅
@caddyrack
@caddyrack 16 күн бұрын
You're right...he knows the $hit that comes out of his pants.🤣🤣 Normally diesel pistons are forged aluminum, then again we're in India or Pakistan anything goes. That engine will self destruct in no time
@dayleedwards3521
@dayleedwards3521 15 күн бұрын
@@caddyrack How do you know this? I think the shit you talk about comes from your mouth.
@caddyrack
@caddyrack 15 күн бұрын
@@dayleedwards3521 Hey genius, check out how pistons are made especially for diesel engine. Is your brain made in India?
@dayleedwards3521
@dayleedwards3521 15 күн бұрын
@@caddyrack You are choking on it.
@FullSpeed_only
@FullSpeed_only 9 күн бұрын
Looks like a Piston for a bigger Diesel Engine. Probably a bit older Design as I think the deep Dish isn’t Standard anymore since some Time. Possibly not even Turbocharged, which would mean comparatively low Power/Volume. Quite possible that there is no Support for Replacements anymore and even in Regions with Access to old Stock it’s not cheap. They aren’t going to scrap their Equipment over such a Problem… Also Efficiency or dirty Exhaust Gases from Bypass Oil are of no Interest if the Machine is what finances your Life. Since 1923 there are Diesel Engines in Trucks. For sure a forged and CNC machined Part would be preferable, but it’s not going into a modern Sports Car. This Piston just needs to keep the Engine usable and survive as long as the other old ones in the Cylinders next to it.
@user-no8oe7lh1s
@user-no8oe7lh1s 20 күн бұрын
Я так понимаю,в начале как раз и показывают останки самодельного поршня судя по обработке...
@MrSamonkel
@MrSamonkel 27 күн бұрын
Good 👍👍👍
@buddynewman8949
@buddynewman8949 27 күн бұрын
excellent
@MojoDevirus
@MojoDevirus 27 күн бұрын
Mashallah !!!
@markwatters6875
@markwatters6875 23 күн бұрын
👍🇦🇺
@sxyrx7
@sxyrx7 8 күн бұрын
This piston is never going into an engine, it's just done for the video, ie click bate
@user-cz4kd1ws7q
@user-cz4kd1ws7q 7 күн бұрын
???
@pkrestoration1461
@pkrestoration1461 27 күн бұрын
What is this 🤣
@MS00761
@MS00761 27 күн бұрын
is this really useful
@MrHitchikerOz
@MrHitchikerOz 26 күн бұрын
Fantasy
@jmsequip3787
@jmsequip3787 9 күн бұрын
They could have whittle one out of wood, should last just as long
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