WHEN to Unlock Xenologue UNITS Maddening

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Жыл бұрын

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In this video I go over when to unlock the Xenologue units on Maddening so that it doesn't ruin your maddening run by making it too easy or hard, as well as how the DLC interacts with the base game and itself.

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@magnuscarlsson9969 Жыл бұрын

I wished they would had done it the same way as they did with the Ashen wolves in Three houses. Just have the Xenologue as a separate experience from the main game entirely aka. you will have a preset of skills, emblems etc. instead of having these things carry over from a current save. Then the new characters would just be "unlocked" in every new game going forward. But since this ain't the case I agree that the mid game is the best point, Ch. 15-18. If i decide to play another clear I'll probably wait until i get Corrin before doing the xenologue, especially on maddening since having both Corrin and Camilla available reduced my annoyance significantly(looking at you Nil), Dark Inferno+ just shredded the Xenologue.

@MetalGearRaxis Жыл бұрын

The Xenologue units seem to be roughly scaled to chapter 16~17 judging from the base levels of the unique class units.

@dizzyheads Жыл бұрын

And it seems fitting ish for story

@cryguy0000 Жыл бұрын

I dunno if it's just me but the xenologue has been really tricky on hard, even with all the bracelets and some rings available (I'm on chapter 18) The DLC in general is weird, it should've worked like Cindered Shadows. A separate mode at the title screen that unlocks the units for all playthroughs, but give you the choice each time when to recruit them and have them scale with your progress

@Coatttt Жыл бұрын

I don't care for the DLC units, but I really want to experiment with DLC classes in the earlier chapters, but so many drawbacks is such a buzzkill. Should've have just added them to the normal class pool

@Randage Жыл бұрын

I fucking love your content dude. The passion, depth and volume your provide with your content is unreal. My first FE game was 3H and I remember binging your vids years ago for hours on end.. Now picking up Engage and I find myself doing the same thing lol. I hope to see your channel grow and grow. Got a lifetime sub in me. You are an absolute blessing. Hope you feel better soon!

@superape013 Жыл бұрын

I will say the difficulty spike for Hector and Camilla's paralogue maps made then fare more enjoyable for me after I got the xenologue characters

@Rutawind Жыл бұрын

I did the DPs first and then FX at Ch 8. Was overleveled by the end, but that tapered off at around Ch 12-13. Hard Classic btw.

@Jamstaro1 Жыл бұрын

I would unlock them around corrin. Like it's the point when I can use them to protect against the crazy CRIT mechanic if u struggle with that. But it doesn't trivialize the maps themselves.

@MasterStacona Жыл бұрын

All of the DLC was clearly intended to be done after you get Corrin, but let's you grab it whenever too. Also, you can grab the DLC characters then run the Paralogues early, now you have your Maddening+ for 6 maps =)

@superape013 Жыл бұрын

Trueeeee ice was going on about how easy he had it with his five man on the paralogues maps so maybe this is that extra difficulty he needed

@theshnoz352 Жыл бұрын

So I think that it is fine to unlock them as soon as u get the xenolouge, but you should just wait to deploy them until around the midgame. If u unlock them early, you can atleast buy some of the passives for them before you lose your emblem rings, but don't actually put them into effect until around chapters 13-15ish. You could also use these characters as your way of beating the divine paralouges and not use any other units, but I think the best course of action for beating divine paralouges is to just do them as soon as they pop up with all of the units your not planning on using in that current run, that way your team doesn't get overleveled, and then you can use those emblem rings to help make the xenolouge quicker, and then just wait to use the DLC units until they are around the same level as the rest of your team

@poodlep.9719 Жыл бұрын

Man, I agree with what you're saying but it's insane to think of how much one has to fight the dlc itself just to be able to enjoy the damn dlc content without sabotaging the level curve of the game.

@theshnoz352 Жыл бұрын

@@poodlep.9719 yeah ikr. I still havent even done the divine paralouges in my playthroughs yet (besides the Tiki one bc when I first got the game I didn't realize it was DLC) and now I just don't want to make the game insanely easy by doing it, but its a shame bc I spent money to buy the DLC so I want to use it at somepoint lol

@allen2reckless676 Жыл бұрын

Sadly this is not optimal cuz if u do this dlc then I would assume u want the other dlc stuff 2 and if u get the characters early the rest of the dlc will be terribly hard and u would need to grind out your team before even being able to do it. Even when u get levels u will be overwhelmed by a lot of enemy units so grinding up would mean nothing unless u learn the 1 round boss units turn 1 tech.

@theshnoz352 Жыл бұрын

@@allen2reckless676 yeah the play is to do divine paralouges first with units you don't want to use, and then do the fell xenolouge to get the other units

@effluxi9587 Жыл бұрын

You're much better off doing all the divine paralouges and then Xenolouge at ch17

@Marika_ER Жыл бұрын

See but I'm trash so I did the xenologue to beat maddening

@jotchuaandfriend1067 Жыл бұрын

Sameeee

@superape013 Жыл бұрын

You do you and have fun my dude

@grodon909 Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty laid back about game things, I don't really care that there wasn't like costume changes as part of the dlc, don't mind the prices on the class change stuff, etc. Redoing the FX isn't too bad if you lower the difficult to normal, takes like an hour or so. I like the FX maps overall, even if they are kind of long. The implementation of wave 4 characters still was bad enough to grind my gears. It's like they implemented it in the worst possible way. If you unlock it before chapter 10, they're overpowered, and because the divine paralogues scale, you can't really do those until later; so you have to do them early and it can throw off your XP curve. If you unlock it between like chapter 10 and 15, you have to go through the whole FX with like 6 emblems, more if you did the divine paralogues because of the scaling issue. If you wait until after chapter 17, they fit fine, but now they are behind on resources, SP, and supports; and you only get like 1/3rd of the game to actually use them.

@rhettmitchell Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s so annoying, and I’m usually not one to care too much about stuff like that, but they completely fucked the balance of the game with wave 4, as if they hadn’t done that enough with the divine paralogues and emblems. I’m thinking of doing up to chapter 9, doing all the divine paralogues, and THEN doing the xenologue with the early game emblems before I lose them, so I can have more time with the new units, but then they and your units you did the divine paralogues with are super overpowered for like the next 5-7 chapters. Idk what to do on my next run

@nebby9751 Жыл бұрын

Also worth noting that it's not a good idea to do the Xenologues before the Divine Paralogues. They scale with the highest level party member you have. So don't make my mistake and end up staring down Tiki's paralogue when it's with filled with level 20 units and all of your base game units are sat at around level 7

@Meddin 10 ай бұрын

OK, good point. I'm starting a new game just now (Ch. 5) and I hadn't decided yet when doing the Xenologue. Thank you for the advice! 😊

@GMKGoji01 24 күн бұрын

I’m playing Engage on normal, and this was the plan I came up with: Step 1.) Do the Divine Paralogues FIRST (if you risk not getting any special conversations, I don’t know if it’s worth it) Step 2.) Attempt the Fell Xenologue AFTER clearing the Divine Paralogues, but calculate your chances of survival before every chapter (which is what I should’ve specifed to Hawlo) Step 3.) Kil Luigi! Step 4.) Cry over the loss of Emblem Celica after Chapter 10. Step 5.) After you’ve accidentally recruited Luigi, keep her as far away as you can from Alear, because… Step 6.) Alear and Nel need to reach A-Support as quickly as humanely possible. Also, give Luigi some support dialogue that shows her comedic fear of ghosts. Step 7.) After going through most of the story, go to the paralogue with the Pact Ring and unlock that item. Step 8.) If Alear and Nel reached A-Support, give that Pact Ring to Nel. Step 9.) Die from laughing at Luigi’s fear of ghosts (then turn her into a ghost). Step 10.) Have Alear and Nel obliterate Sombron with Engage Blast. Look, it’s not going to be easy, because I’m not mentally prepared for chapter 10, but I gotta find SOME way to keep Luigi from getting her stubby little paws on Alear! I will not accept an arranged marriage between the Divine Dragon and a “Camilla-wannabe” whose fear of ghosts is the ONLY thing I will EVER love about her!

@calcifieron1974 Жыл бұрын

Ironically, the warning about unlocking Xenologue characters before finishing the paralogues Came about 1 hour too late for me. Guess I'm not doing the last two paralogues for a while lol.

@DrBXXI Жыл бұрын

I agree with your opinion about when you should unlock the characters.

@MasterStacona Жыл бұрын

Auto completion feature update to be added be nice if you have already beaten that Paralogue and DLC Story on a previous save on that account, gives you all of the rewards (including Silver Card for auto completing Tiki's map) that it would give you if you do Auto Complete the thing. This will also not give you EXP for auto completing the paralogues, but have to do Tiki's map if you do not want the Silver Card. With it, they should make the DLC characters scale to Alear's current level instead of being fixed to level 20 for when they first join your army.

@brianwinters2285 Жыл бұрын

How they implemented wave 4 was a hot mess.

@enric0392 Жыл бұрын

Did the xenolouge before most of the paralouges so they got auto leveled super high and now I’m stuck with just Hector for dlc emblems lol

@darrellharmon9558 Жыл бұрын

I plan on making a master save file where I beat the xenolouge on normal at chapter 6, then never touch it again. Finished chapter 3 on maddening then just turned the difficulty down to normal. Couldn’t be bothered to finish it on a higher difficulty

@GMKGoji01 Ай бұрын

To repeat, I have a plan for the endgame, but I'm not ready! Also, I just wanna pair Alear with Nel! Also, hearing that the Divine Paralogues can, and will, be spiked to a high difficulty is just dumb. My Jean isn’t even level 10 yet! I am playing on normal, too!

@HeroMystic Жыл бұрын

I couldn't help but notice you kept coming back to Zelestia.

@spookie4481 Жыл бұрын

The greater the mass, the greater the force of attraction

@Esperian Жыл бұрын

It's so dumb that they don't scale to your level like... Surely there is a way to do that if the divine paralogues do ?? And why give you the option to do it so early if the characters don't scale ? They might as well just have unlocked it post chapter 11 and let you choose when to do it from there. Imo the best time to do them story-wise for me would be right before chapter 17 - with it being the first fight where you fight all the hounds at once so you can easily see hounds/winds convos.

@michaelomara Жыл бұрын

I unlocked the units in hard mode at chapter 7, I chose not to use the characters to preserve game balancing and then just never went back to these characters.

@jaimereupert4247 7 ай бұрын

I'm doing all the dlc battles before chapter 7 battle. 😊 ❤ On Normal. I'll probably do either Hard or Maddening after this run.

@Clanwalk3r Жыл бұрын

Why they didn't include access to specific xenologue chapters after you've reached core game chapters I don't understand. I.e Xeno chapter 3 unlocks after ch9 base, Xeno ch 4 unlocks after Base game 11. Then make the units join as part of your next playthrough at Lv1 after ch5.

@cedricgaming8844 Жыл бұрын

I would say right before entering Solm. Only because the exception of three units, everyone else is advanced

@superape013 Жыл бұрын

They are still the same internal level as the non advance units so they out level the solm units till later on panette for example is internal level 15 as a level 1 berserker but Gregory is internal 20 what's really shitty is the advance units are under powered for their internal levels so they kinda act like a better vanderin till around chapter 16/17 they grow slowly exp wise but they have good Stat growths at least

@blankblank6214 Жыл бұрын

Narrative I would say right after getting seadall

@MrDyssonance Жыл бұрын

The only reason I'd recommend unlocking them as fast as possible (pre-chapter 10) is because you get to spend more time with them, and early-mid Maddening is ridiculously easy, you dont even need to inherit optimal skills and you'll steamroll.

@wuowuokong Жыл бұрын

What level were your base game units after having done the divine paralogues first? I'm seeing advance class level 1 on everyone but level 11 Diamant. I want to make a master save with paralogues done as well and just hold off on using the dlc units till ch13-14. Like to what extent are you spreading xp so that no one is too over leveled, feels like the game is gonna be broken one way or another

@superape013 Жыл бұрын

I know from his earlier videos he said his master save did all the paralogues after chapter 6 before 7 so he did get a spike in exp before he promoted some of the units he has in the video

@josephhuang1163 Жыл бұрын

I saw that negative comment on your review video yesterday before it got deleted. Hope you’re doing OK.

@IcedCoffeeGaming Жыл бұрын

It wasn't bad tbh, the dude was acting like a bot randomly dropping in to talk trash and had nothing of substance to say. I have no issues with criticism/feedback or people disagreeing with my takes etc. I do draw the line and brainless trash talking though.

@xMisterkinox Жыл бұрын

I like your advices, me for now if you can help me please, I still hesitate who I want to make enchanter class, witch caractere should I have choose, I'm thinking about lapis (because I like her) but she has low base def and low Hp, I know it's a support class but in the case 1 or 2 ennemi(s) hit her and corrin emblem is still fire to give her a lot of HP to tank, I have tiki emblem but this emblem is better for another class or caractere...

@superape013 Жыл бұрын

I've been running enchanter on framme in my current run if you care about damage then really get a character with relatively even str to magic growth or better str since it can use daggers aside from that avoid using them in main combat and get then extra avoid to prevent them from getting hit the utility is why you use the class and they will be frail no matter who you use the class has really poor growths in hp Def and res

@IcedCoffeeGaming Жыл бұрын

It can be any unit if you just want the utility of Enchanter. Framme would be a decent option because she is already a Qi Adept, but Lapis should be fine in it. The main use would be empowering other units or specific weapons for buffs.

@Y2kha Жыл бұрын

What if you try to use all the dlc units at chapter 6-7 to get starsphere?

@allen2reckless676 Жыл бұрын

Its so weird that people complain about the dlc being broken... u bought it and u can have multiple play through just don't use the dlc for one run right????

@jkjack0742 Жыл бұрын

It's hard to consider because the fell xenologue feels so unbalanced compared to the divine paralogues (probably because of how the games makes you nerfed to a preset level and the weapons you have are weaker). 3 and 5 definitely feel tough without certain builds or characters recruited.

@stonalisa3729 Жыл бұрын

They do this yet keep your passives which is really weird.

@MrDyssonance Жыл бұрын

Unlocking the FX units is pure upside