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@@atticushexcel9567 old GCN got me into cycling new GCN is unwatchable

GCN sucks donkey balls... they're ten times more into "social justice" than cycling. Unwatchable dross!

@@atticushexcel9567 " people are mindless". Are you talking about GCN staff or their viewers or both? Personally I think both.

I mean the epic rides series is good in my opinion

Confused. Wasn't there a rule that you are not allowed to give water to a different team?

@@Michael00000001 bidons are fine afaik

Movistar is the only team he won a GT in, so i think he would take it.

Happens all the time, miss a bottle and get lucky another team offers one in the feed section , particularly when you are not I the bunch.

Maybe some illegal stuff in there, so that’s why they tossed in into the crowd 😳. Just kidding hahaha would be very weird

@@MarkBurghouwt I never thought about this. There are drugs that are not allowed in the *rider*, but could they punish someone for just for having those drugs in a bidon?

​@@HweolRidda Bruh, what ?

I was under the impression it's not allowed to help other teams. Also you don't take bidons from other teams or spectators as they could be contaminated with illegal substances.

I reckon soler took the bidon by accident given he was riding for Movistar before his move to UAE

Glad I'm not the only one who thought that. Confused me for a second with his post-race interview (until he opened his mouth).

The group was no group at that point- just individuals with their own wants.

@@leendeen8745 true but ridiculous

This is one reason cycling tactics are so interesting. Putting in an effort to catch up to first place usually insures that you won't win. That's why you need a teammate to sacrifice their own chances at winning. In a large group, there's usually at least one guy you don't want to win, so having the entire group lose is okay.

….well let’s go with your explanation: they all just stopped pedaling and chasing for no reason…

@@leendeen8745 one stop pedsling ane chasing the first from bahrain and the others like sheeps behind him and till then, they had it and quickly let the gap down, under controlle all for another participate to chase Soler down...and Soler says thank you and bye☺

I get that sense too. Probably my fave of young Brit riders. Wish he were on another team tho.

I think Wright wanted the red jersey and his only threat was Molard. Molard only had to finish in the same group as Wright to get the red jersey, so could just sit on Wright's wheel until the end. Therefore, Wright needed to put time on Molard. If Wright had just sat on Soler's wheel, it would have been likely Molard would have sat on his, which doesn't help him get the red jersey. I think the only opportunity Wright had was to follow Soler when he started breaking away from the group, but I suspect the reason he didn't was because he didn't have the strength then.

no they are not

If Molard is in great shape he could stay top 10. But 4 minutes are not enough for him. From now Jumbo don't have to take the race in charge, or if they have to, they will get some help from GFDJ.

It is not a lot. Teams have a deep knowledge on who to pick battles with, and they know that, in a 3-week race, those 4 minutes are not a lot against Mollard or Wright.

4 Minutes are not a lot considering the Situation. Tomorrow is an mountain finish with an long climb. Given how exausted Molard is the top GC guys are gonna get atleast 2 Minutes back in think.

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Jumbo was focused on other GC contenders, so keeping Roglic even with them was the goal for the day. The stage profile was lumpy enough to tire out sprinters, so it favored a break-away -- basically, guys who had decent overall skills, not specialists in climbing or sprints, but perhaps TT. Jumbo was happy to give these guys 4-5 minutes, as these riders will be losing 10-20 minutes in each mountain stage; this allowed Jumbo riders to save some energy. With no break, Jumbo would pace as slowly as possible, until either another team decided to pace or a break formed. If the break never got far, they'd get caught near the end, leading to either a new break or a scrambled finish, with teams trying to find who still had good legs. In this case, Jumbo would have to let Roglic do whatever, as safety is smart but not fun. By the last week, riders will be more exhausted and breaks will be smaller and weaker. But at the moment, riders are feeling peppy, so it takes more effort to keep them down. Meanwhile, a smart GC team is conserving energy.

Yeah, but Movistar would have taken the blame -- that's why it's genius!😁 Riders are always tossing empty bottles into the crowd -- it's genuine pro gear!

@@icollectstories5702 yeah, but they usually throw them at the feet of the crowds, not heads.

@@marcvb3364 Usually, but tricky while you're in the middle of the peloton. You found the toss risky; I don't: there was a nice arc to it. I dunno if it was completely empty although I hope so.

He was in the break today?

@@ManWalksDogs I think the point is that if he weren't a GC threat, he'd be treated better in the breaks. OTOH it's hard to gain the leader's jersey without being a GC threat.🤷‍ On the third hand, maybe he should have dropped Molard.😁

@@icollectstories5702 so a bit deeper into the vuelta once JV recall their jersey loan. He's definitely capable of a stage victory (whether marked or not) and I'm confident we'll see it in this GT.

@@ManWalksDogs It's a sport, so we're not supposed to know what will happen. If he wants to try again, he'll need to conserve his strength, avoid injury, and hope his conditioning is solid. If you are a pessimist, you can't tolerate waiting. Meanwhile, we watch!

Hi, I'm from the future. On the next stage, Fred Wright tried really hard and lost 26 minutes. So none of the GC teams care about him anymore. So, he's free to fly!

Molard will lose bulk time to Roglic in the TT and Sierra Nevada

@@LanterneRougeCycling Also tomorrow. He is exausted. Long climb. Jumbo is gonna push really hard.

By understanding the long game and that it will be almost completely negated in the next day or two

Molard is not a threat for Roglic

More interesting was those who may be targeting a top 20 GC finish sat back like deer in headlights when TJV & Ineos decided today was a recovery ride. They might find Wright or Molard sitting on their wheel in the 3rd week when they are trying to move up the GC 😂