Where More Graphics Card VRAM MATTERS. RTX 3060 vs RTX 3070

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2 жыл бұрын

under very specific circumstances more vram makes a BIG difference
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@Bel_Zuva
@Bel_Zuva Жыл бұрын
I picked up a 3060 12gb last year. It runs everything I have thrown its way at 1080p with a comfortable amount of fps. I upgraded from a GTX 1050 ti so playing nearly every game I tackled on Ultra settings has been mind blowing. You served me well my 1050 ti!
@jakisrandom826
@jakisrandom826 Жыл бұрын
i've been using the legendary 1050 ti for like 4 years. Unfortunately my pc broke and im considering if i should grab 3060 ti with 12gigs or 3070 8gigs, any advices?
@Bel_Zuva
@Bel_Zuva Жыл бұрын
@@jakisrandom826 As far as I know the 3060 ti is not a 12gb version. The 12gb one is the non-ti version. The 3060 ti is 8gb and is stronger than the 12gb model. And it is reasonable to believe the 3070 is even stronger than that. The appeal of the 3060 12gb non-ti is probably its vram size. I say go for the best value for your needs and affordability.
@joakimwallin5460
@joakimwallin5460 Жыл бұрын
@@jakisrandom826 hey 1050 ti squad, me myself is probably going for the 3060 12gigs, personally think its more worth for the price, but im not the type of guy that has to have the graphics cranked at ultra, i just want some smooth fps, and my 4gigs of vram and my dying i5 7500k is not liking the games ive wanted to play recently xD
@joakimwallin5460
@joakimwallin5460 Жыл бұрын
@@Bel_Zuva And i should add that im personally afraid that the 8gigs of vram will feel as limited as my 4gigs that i have right now in a few years which makes me want the 12gigs more for future proofing.
@WarrenLeggatt
@WarrenLeggatt Жыл бұрын
I did the same but my previous card was the rx480 8Gb, I sooo picked the right card in that price back then and think I did the same with the 3060. 8Gb was laughable in the 30 series cards and is just insane in the 40 series.
@dhax12
@dhax12 2 жыл бұрын
Been using 3060 for a while now. And man it rocks in production (video editing, 3D modelling, rendering stuff) plus using it in heavy gaming (COD, BF5, RDR). All around little beast.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
I think the 3060 is gonna age nicely and were gonna joke about the bad rap it was given on launch for "overpriced and having too much vram"
@dhax12
@dhax12 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine yep. It was just given a bad rap by some hyped tech channels for the views.
@TheGamelyst
@TheGamelyst 2 жыл бұрын
Bought one as well the, the gainward ghost version. And honestly as you said.. It is a lil beast.
@Lilbabyto
@Lilbabyto Жыл бұрын
What brand is it besides nvidia like Asus or Gigabyte or what?
@muklisalisyahab9580
@muklisalisyahab9580 8 ай бұрын
Most of tech channels are being paid to try to sell something anyway, it's a common knowledge if a competitor can paid them to talk trash about their counterparts.
@Sard_Onyx
@Sard_Onyx 2 жыл бұрын
That desktop is hilarious. I'm a card carrying 3060 owner and Im happy I got it. Having 12gb of vram makes me feel like my card has some staying power for a while. I imagine in less than 5 years 8gb of vram will be as limiting as 4gb feels now. Good vid.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
Its a solid card, the vram might actually justify its less than optimal (if not real) msrp
@irish2772
@irish2772 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a first time PC builder and this whole question is racking my brain. Right now I have the MSI Ventus GeForce RTX 3060 12GB in my newegg cart. I know newegg is kind of a rip off. Is that card ok for games like Hell Let Loose or Tarkov at 1440p? Like I said I'm new to this. If there's a better card for the same price range could you recommend it?
@timothymceachron9127
@timothymceachron9127 2 жыл бұрын
@@irish2772 look up some benchmarks but I can't imagine it getting under a 1440p60 experience in those games, depends on the optimization
@theplayerofus319
@theplayerofus319 2 жыл бұрын
The 3060 will run out of steam before it runs out of vram
@gabrielm.942
@gabrielm.942 2 жыл бұрын
@@irish2772 honestly I’d either go with a gigabyte card or a evga card. The ventris line is kind of a shit line. I’ve had several 1660 supers in that line and tried a 2060 super, they’re ugly and a bit limited on their over clocking.
@rydershogun8130
@rydershogun8130 Жыл бұрын
I'm a texture artist this is why choosing a high VRAM is one of the greatest factor since 2012. I saw Linus' video wayback that high VRAM is not really important for GPU. It's a specialized card for specialized people.
@stanleybochenek1862
@stanleybochenek1862 Жыл бұрын
no it’s specialized for better performance
@drek9k2
@drek9k2 Жыл бұрын
Linus is a nvidia fanboy pure and simple. He literally hates AMD and doesn't even try to hide it. Partly that's butthurt over old Radeon encoders because his actual profession is video editing and rendering for a living and Radeon's GCN encoders etc sucked. But he is still a fanboy, and it is still a cope for nVidia's notoriously bad VRAM. It was nVidia who got hit with literally a class action lawsuit over their VRAM practices--and lost, being forced to pay millions in compensation to 3.5gb GTX 970 owners. Why does this matter is because swapping to system RAM after running out of video memory causes crashing and stuttering. They always put just enough on their 80ti to stay relevant, then gimped lower end cards with just enough to last until next marketing cycle. This matters for games a lot at ultra settings, especially high texture memory and raytracing that use lots of vram. 3070 ages badly for that reason. That's why it's basically a 1080p card despite being fast enough for light 4k. Ironically it'd be some of the most premium hardware if it wasn't run like some coconut banging tinpot company out of a van in Brooklyn. If it just had 12gb VRAM it'd still be a relevant gaming card. But it's not. So at 1440p you have to lower settings or watch it stutter and crash.
@lsp6032
@lsp6032 9 ай бұрын
for laptops, even though 4080m and 4090m is only 4gb vram and 10% performance difference, the latter can push higher resolutions or pushing extreme load like multiple android emulators and a game at the same time, vram already ran above 14gb, so 4080m just lag out at that point due to running out of vram. my load is pretty specialized though
@muklisalisyahab9580
@muklisalisyahab9580 8 ай бұрын
Linus is not a computer engineer, he's a tech affiliator . More VRAM gives significant advantage, specifically if you're an AI developer.
@t.gchannel4067
@t.gchannel4067 7 ай бұрын
yes, they simply just told people they dont need 8gb or high vram back then, until a day since 2023? they suddently turn on by something and tell people 8gb is outdated. the day nvidia finally put enough of vram on to their card
@czbrat
@czbrat 2 жыл бұрын
GTX 770 had 2GB VRAM, typically. Then we got (kinda) 4GB with 970, then 8GB with 1070, then 8gb once again with 2070. And then again with 3070? Nvidia what the hell are you doing. We should be on 32GB of vram by now lol.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
How we gonna sell you a new one next year if your old one still has enough vram?
@mattalford3932
@mattalford3932 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need 32gigs of vram. 12 is almost too much. Almost lol.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
​@@mattalford3932 Play flight sim in VR and suddenly VRAM is an issue. Or max the sliders on cyberpunk after the last update....Mr 3070 was struggling hard there. 32gb today is insane, but you never know about 3 -5 years from now. I remember when 2gb was perfect for 1080p gaming, now you're honestly looking at 4-6gb for it. Game devs are like a gas, they expand to fill whatever sized container you give them. You give them 2gb of vram, they'll stay mostly in that space. You give them 32gb of vram and suddenly you're getting some crazy utilization
@CatWAVE-qq1gs
@CatWAVE-qq1gs 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine RTX 3060 12gb struggles in Cyberpunk ??? May I buy this GPU to program some games in Unreal 5? It could handle perfectly?? My objective is to build a simple RPG (no top-notch graphics to be honest)..
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatWAVE-qq1gs everything struggles in cyberpunk, but 3060s work great if not being slightly overpriced
@HelplessTeno
@HelplessTeno 9 ай бұрын
We're seeing this more now. Games launching this year are consistently going over 8GBs of VRAM, sometimes even at 1080p. There are some tests where even the 4060 loses to the 3060 simply because of VRAM.
@TheEmolano
@TheEmolano 8 ай бұрын
Most of them only on ultra tho. Look at your priotities, graphics or fps? If it's the late an 8gb card is more than enough. Otherwise you probally should aim for 12 at 1080p and 16 at 1440p.
@HelplessTeno
@HelplessTeno 6 ай бұрын
I'm not arguing one way or another. I'm simply telling people that a 12GB card actually has benefits that a lot of tech reviewers overlook. You shouldn't be making a GPU purchase based off of VRAM anyways.@@TheEmolano
@vrab.
@vrab. 6 ай бұрын
The 4060 also has a 128-bit bus vs the 3060’s 192-bit. 4060s are kinda garbage.
@Burago2k
@Burago2k 5 ай бұрын
The 4060 doesn't loose simply because of vram, the 4060 looses to a 3060ti which has 8gb of vram just like the 4060...so no, its simply made weaker than its previous version 3060ti...
@dominicsmith7793
@dominicsmith7793 Жыл бұрын
Great video, well done and thank you. X-Plane 12 is another prime example of high VRAM usage, especially when using photographic scenery + OSM autogen.
@LeoneFan2001
@LeoneFan2001 Жыл бұрын
6:59 not the zombie go boom dubstep 😂😂😭😩
@AethyrPrime
@AethyrPrime 2 жыл бұрын
If you do any video editing or 3d rendering vram is extremely important. If you run out and it falls back to system ram, dear god will that nerf your render times. When a single frame can be the difference between many minutes and only a couple.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
Oh lord for sure, running out of VRAM in any case feels awful, I can't image when you're doing a long render
@Vesper778
@Vesper778 Жыл бұрын
In 2015 I was shopping for a decent GPU and the GTX 960 4GB caught my attention how much vram it have at the time (4GB vram is pretty decent in 2015). That card serves me sooo well and held up until 2 months ago when I decide to upgrade to a whole new system. Naturally the RTX 3060 12GB got my attention due to again its massive vram. I think it's going to future proof pretty good.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the upgrade, I'm sure a 960 to a 3060 must've been one wild leap! Try to tell me what you upgrade to next time in...2029?
@Vesper778
@Vesper778 Жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine It is a HUGE difference. I mainly game on my old 144hz 1080p monitor so most games are pretty smooth. In 2029 I'd probably get a 32GB RTX 8060 haha.
@stanleybochenek1862
@stanleybochenek1862 Жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine i just got a 3060 too i love itttt
@stanleybochenek1862
@stanleybochenek1862 Жыл бұрын
@@Vesper778 maybe xd
@YuThinkUrCool
@YuThinkUrCool Жыл бұрын
at 1080p you'll be fine mostly, but you won't be able to run everything at max settings (AAA games, next gen titles). The 3060 will fall behind in rasterization before it runs out of VRAM, especially since you're on 1080p where 8GB or VRAM is usually more than enough. You should be solid for at least 2-3 years though.
@i_dont_get_zzs5254
@i_dont_get_zzs5254 2 жыл бұрын
This vid made me feel good abt my rtx 3060 its a solid card for the future cuz of the vram
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly using the card for a few weeks and then making this video made me appreciate it a lot more than I expected. It's definitely not deserving of the hate in this market, especially with the lowered mining rate. Solid card, it's just overshadowed by the 3060 ti. Hope you enjoy yours!
@modrribaz1691
@modrribaz1691 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine It also overclocks like nuts in most cases.
@beesmongeese2978
@beesmongeese2978 2 жыл бұрын
@@modrribaz1691 What do you mean? Overclocking can really boost its potential a lot?
@modrribaz1691
@modrribaz1691 2 жыл бұрын
@@beesmongeese2978 That's what lots of other reviewers got, and what I got on my own 3060
@i_dont_get_zzs5254
@i_dont_get_zzs5254 Жыл бұрын
T h a n k y o u
@Hade-Phobia
@Hade-Phobia Жыл бұрын
I've had a 1660Super which served me gracefully, especially since I was at 1080P resolution. Now, I went 1440P with 3060 12GB and couldn't be happier. Oh, and at least I bought it new 320€ while on the user reviews 7-8 months ago, they paid 700-800€ and were still happy, poor souls. My slight regret is my old card could break at least a month later so I'd buy 4060. The new 4000 series does not bring that big of a jump in terms of performance, but man, it's as efficient AF. Many less watts needed for same or better performance, but anyway. At least it supports DirectX 12_2 Ultimate (the 12GB version).
@sumiooSU
@sumiooSU 2 жыл бұрын
had similar issues with my 2060 6gb when playing forza on ultra settings (couldve played extreme on 30-45fps). as soon as i started an event the game started trippin and that was the moment i knew the 6gb vram was a red flag. fortunately i was able to return the gpu but unfortunately i have to spend an extra 100 to get the 3060 which i’ll do at the end of the week.
@yeetus59
@yeetus59 2 жыл бұрын
Just play on the high preset, then set cars and shaders to ultra you should get around 80fps. Theres no point running the game at ultra it looks pretty much the same as high with much lower fps.
@sumiooSU
@sumiooSU 2 жыл бұрын
@@yeetus59 i already returned it, the gpu had other issues as well so i ended up upgrading it.
@SamlovesLulu
@SamlovesLulu Жыл бұрын
Love your screen name.
@michaelwilkes0
@michaelwilkes0 Жыл бұрын
Well congratulations finding a very high vram scenario. I didnt know you could crank doom that high. Very good demonstration of what happens when you run out of vram. Obviously its not that practical but very good demonstration. I develop a webgl app and im always afraid of users showing up to my site with only 2gb vram. My app just craps itself. 4gb is totally fine while 2gb is less than 1fps.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the moment you hit system memory is the moment you alt-f4 and go to bed. It's also depressing when you have to drop settings because you run out of vram, even though your GPU core can still give you more.
@avoney3151
@avoney3151 2 жыл бұрын
This was a really cool video to see, your content is getting really good and you deserve the views and subs for it :D, pretty sure it'll be the same with cards like the 1080Ti since it has tons of VRAM to spare alongside being a fast graphics card. Nice video though :D
@jamieclarke2694
@jamieclarke2694 Жыл бұрын
If you look at the specs and comparisons the 1080ti is almost exactly the same as the 3060, the 1080ti has 384bit memory bus and is faster with raster processing, but the 3060 has DLSS and better drivers now, as well as Ray tracing cores since it plays Control pretty well with RT enabled at least. I was debating between the two for £300 on ebay, went for the 3060 and since upgraded to a 2K 240hz screen and it runs all my games pretty well, older ones at higher fps of course but even newer ones at 60+ full graphics mostly, which is surprising to me I wasn't expecting it to cope well at 2K
@andreipreda9162
@andreipreda9162 10 ай бұрын
Lol, same for me bro in 2016 I made my new pc with gtx 960 and the gpu broken this year after a windows update where the gpu was missing from the system, after everything I choose to buy a new pc and I buy it 3060 eagle 12g vram(325€) still extensive in my country.
@MrAlgefors
@MrAlgefors 9 ай бұрын
I'm planing to buy a 30-serie graphics card soon, and searching used market. I'm using my computer mostly to edit clips in Adobe premiere. Is the vram used there? If a 3060 12gb is better for me than a 3070 8gb? I have read somewhere that memory bus width is good to have in adobe, and there 3070 have 256 compared to 3060 192...
@lancerdawgpete
@lancerdawgpete 2 жыл бұрын
You know, if you guys have a working Vega 56 or 64 laying around somewhere in your inventory....could you maybe see what an HBCC memory allocation would do with this same test? For sure, it's not going to be similar to performance as the 3060 12GB, but I'm actually curious what would happen.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
We have a fury
@lancerdawgpete
@lancerdawgpete 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine Not sure as I have never owned a Fury, but even though the Fury does have HBM memory, I think HBCC was a Vega and Vega 2nd generation thing. I also think that was a hardware based addition to Vega, so I doubt even if you tried NimeZ modded drivers you'd get access to HBCC. (I only say this because apparently with Vega and NimeZ modded drivers there are things that are normally closed that somehow are working when you use them. For example, it's been said with Vega, you can get to SAM work on it - I haven't tried it yet)
@mattalford3932
@mattalford3932 2 жыл бұрын
I play farming simulator 22 at 4k with max settings and all draw distances at 200%, and it stays at 60fps with drops into the high 50s
@abdullahsher4234
@abdullahsher4234 Жыл бұрын
I recently played the last of us (pc) on my rtx 2060 12gb and I’m glad I bought this card. My friends laughed at me for buying this version of the card but now all of them who had the 6gb versions and rtx 3050 8gb are now suffering.😂
@fazewalker
@fazewalker 2 жыл бұрын
I kind of enjoy how he speaks to the audience and has a sense of humor lol. Came here only to decide if I should get a low-end PNY 3070 or an ASUS Dual 3060 haha brand comparison. Stayed for fun
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
We are simps for Asus
@gabrielm.942
@gabrielm.942 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a 3070 fe for 499 so if you can find that get it. Also have a 3060 Aorus elite not bad but way over paid for it at the time.
@zackriso3945
@zackriso3945 2 жыл бұрын
What about the 3080ti with 12g, which some titles either max it out or very close to do so. How can it be Good for 3-5 years?
@theplayerofus319
@theplayerofus319 2 жыл бұрын
No game maxes it out at the Moment even at 4k. It just reserves it but doesnt really use it.
@domagojoinky8262
@domagojoinky8262 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 3060 and 4k 60Hz monitor. It works nicely.
@Rakansamara
@Rakansamara 2 жыл бұрын
I have a problem with my laptop i have a radeon graphics in my laptop and intel core i7 and when i scan it it say i dont have a radeon graphics card and i hardly play on 12fps in apex legends even i put all graphics on low and disable i still run 12fps and it drop to 8fps 😞
@theplayerofus319
@theplayerofus319 2 жыл бұрын
It is prob broken...
@creepergd4884
@creepergd4884 2 жыл бұрын
I'm upgrading from a 4gb 1050 TI to a 12gb 3060 and I've never been as excited for it as I am now
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
Oh that's going to be a riot, enjoy the upgrade!
@swixqz3734
@swixqz3734 2 жыл бұрын
I’m upgrading from the same card aswell
@bassgobrrrrr
@bassgobrrrrr Жыл бұрын
i wanna uprade my 1050ti to a 2060 12gb
@bluemanno7901
@bluemanno7901 Жыл бұрын
Is rtx 3060 the better choice than rtx 3060 ti because of the 12gb ram size? rtx 3060 ti is currently $45 more than rtx 3060
@jacobtridef48
@jacobtridef48 Жыл бұрын
I got a Pc with 3070 and the power system sparked, so I sent everything back, and now I’m getting a 3060 on my new pc, and I was worried 3060 wouldn’t be nearly as good as 3070. This made me feel slightly better.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the 3060 is a surprising card, it definitely ran better than I expected, and the extra vram is handy if you mess with stuff besides gaming (stablediffusion eats vram for example). Sorry to hear about the PSU, I just had mine die recently. Enjoy the card though!
@YuThinkUrCool
@YuThinkUrCool Жыл бұрын
I heavily roasted this card when it came out because its rasterization was so pathetic compared to the 3060 ti, and it having more VRAM than a higher performing card was useless since it would most likely be a 1080p card, and that VRAM makes it more expensive than it needed to be. I still roast it because it's a shit card in the 3000 lineup (but so is the 3070 ti with its measely 8GB), but damn am I mad at Nvidia for giving a low powered card that much VRAM when they should have been packing 10 GB+ into the 3060 ti (10 GB), the 3070 (12 GB), and 3070 ti (12GB). THAT would have made more sense. MY 1070 ti had 8 GB... what the hell Nvidia. The 3060 is technically more suited for 4K gaming even if you run it on low settings compared to the higher priced cards which can theorically handle higher rasterization. It's like they completely forgot that games have been getting more VRAM demanding. Or they did this intentionally to force sales of the 4000 series - which is funny cause sales are at an all time low. So they better get their act together and start being consumer friendly or they'll feel the losses.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
It's not a "shit card", it's just overpriced most of the time. Put that sucker a bit under MSRP and it's a steal. I agree though, Nvidia really screwed us over with the VRAM amounts. Then they decide to release cards like the 3080 12gb, showing that it wasn't a technical limitation, but a financial decision to gimp a card that fast. Right now I'm rooting for AMD and even Intel to get their shit together, we need someone to put the pressure on Nvidia, this is just getting out of hand
@SicBro
@SicBro Жыл бұрын
Now I'm in a bit of a pickle. Don't know if anyone can help me on this but I got the Aourus Master 3070 for like 350. Should I go ahead and try to sell it before things get worse or is that a fine enough deal? I have 1080p 60hz atm but I'm planning to go with 1440p 60hz+ or 1080 120ish hz. Any help is appreciated. Still pretty messed up for people that got these things at full price all the same.
@DXHatakeKakashi
@DXHatakeKakashi Жыл бұрын
Trust me The vram issue is only getting started imo...... RE4 remake, hogwarts legacy and last of us are the beginning tbh
@x0xain137
@x0xain137 5 ай бұрын
What can you say about issues people have with Hynix vram manuf on TI versions? Need your opinion please
@DaveBudgetPc
@DaveBudgetPc Жыл бұрын
It's weird how defensive people get when you try to explain to them how important VRAM can be lol. Especially on Reddit, I told someone a little over a year ago that the 2060 6gb wasn't a great card to buy in 2022 at $279 and i got attacked by multiple people saying it would be "great" for 1080p and a little 1440p for a good while. LMAO it was terrible advice with new games now targeting the Series X and PS5.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's been fun seeing the community suddenly shift from "it's fine" to "NVIDIA greedy!". I've been here before lmao, it's a shame that these great gpu cores are being held back by the vram. It feels really bad to have extra headroom left but have an instant crash to desktop if i try to run RTX on the RE4 remake
@onlyfacts3502
@onlyfacts3502 8 ай бұрын
Just recently picked up a 3060 12gb for $250 brand new. It is easily the #1 graphics card for entry level content creation/video editing.
@adahmantium2769
@adahmantium2769 Жыл бұрын
Which one will be more better in Video Editing,Graphics designing and 3D Rendering?? Do you need more ram than 8GBs for these works?
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
From what i understand memory bandwidth is more important for production workloads so a wider memory bus should work better but i could be wrong i haven't tested it
@deepfacelabfan
@deepfacelabfan Жыл бұрын
For a lot of thinks like Nvidia Cuda the more vram is essencial. Running with lower bandwith on the 3060 with more vram is better because you can run higher Resolution in models, slower, but with only 8 GB vram on the the 3070 that wouldn'twork at all.
@surfx4804
@surfx4804 Жыл бұрын
And here we are in 2023 and you were right :)
@darryljack6612
@darryljack6612 2 жыл бұрын
I recently brought a 3070 because i didnt really need more performance than what it offered, but now i am kinda seeing the problem with only 8gb of vram. Which got me thinking should i change my card, i want to create content and do 1440p/ light 4k gaming, so should i just switch over to the 12 gb RX6750 XT? Because the 12gb 3060 cards are still going for quite the penny
@Drumaier
@Drumaier 2 жыл бұрын
3060 ti 12gb do not exist bro what are you talking about?
@darryljack6612
@darryljack6612 2 жыл бұрын
@@Drumaier omg I just now realized to was in this post when I made it 🤦
@rdg665
@rdg665 Ай бұрын
If you haven't bought a card yet, don't buy AMD for content creation , they suck at that they are only good in gaming
@edwardanyaehie5762
@edwardanyaehie5762 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I saw cinema 4d on your screen so i believe i can get an answer from you. Is RTX 3060 12gb good for rendering in cinema 4D?
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
We just use it for benchmarking cpus, the 3060 is no slouch of a gpu if youre using gpu rendering though
@RoHades
@RoHades Жыл бұрын
I could really use your opinion…. 3060, 3060TI or 3070 i should get for 1080p streaming and gaming ? single pc . Always playing the lasts games…
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
Get the best you can, this is an incredibly specific circumstance
@switchyard2456
@switchyard2456 Жыл бұрын
That forest green paint is so 80s.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
You know it
@Agent_Wizzy
@Agent_Wizzy Жыл бұрын
Have you ever tested the similar settings with 1080p comparison
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
at 1080p the 3060ti will easily beat the regular 3060. I also can't think of a gaming scenario where a 1080p title will use more than the 8gbs of vram on the 3060ti
@MrShwaggins
@MrShwaggins Жыл бұрын
Is that window real behind him?
@anthonyreynoza8535
@anthonyreynoza8535 8 ай бұрын
It seems like the 8gb vram problem was way over exaggerated. It was in like 3 launched games and after they got patched hasnt been an issue. I haven't had any issues with my 8gb 3070ti and it crushes my 12gb 3060.
@gi_nattak
@gi_nattak 6 ай бұрын
crushes it by 10 more fps?
@anthonyreynoza8535
@anthonyreynoza8535 5 ай бұрын
@@gi_nattak go look at benchmarks it beats it by over 50fps in a bunch of games
@MV_96
@MV_96 2 жыл бұрын
I think you would perfectly fit into the LinusTechTips team, very similar humour ^^
@MrZZooh
@MrZZooh 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such an interesting observation. I just bought a 3070 FE for gpu rendering and graphics and 3d work but for gaming use cases you are correct about going with 3060.
@Drumaier
@Drumaier 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, for 3d rendering and such 12gb is a lot more mandatory than for games, the 3070 will limit you a lot unless you are rendering like one model with one texture of 512 pixels 😆😆
@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter
@My-Opinion-Doesnt-Matter Жыл бұрын
Did you find 8GB to be limiting for rendering? 3070 (& 3060ti) is faster than 3060, but it has 8GB vs 12GB.
@jpa3974
@jpa3974 Жыл бұрын
Yes, it is terrible. I have a 3070 8 GB and it sucks for 3D rendering
@GroundGame.
@GroundGame. 2 жыл бұрын
I sure hope that 3070Ti (16GB) comes around soon, should age well like with that V-RAM buffer.. 🤔 Just wish it was closer to a 3080 like the old 2070 Super was practically stock 2080 performance.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
Nvidia loves making ti's the best deal... If they ever come out at this rate
@Nardeol
@Nardeol 2 жыл бұрын
the 3070 ti isn't 16go
@theplayerofus319
@theplayerofus319 2 жыл бұрын
@@xplicitfishin the 3070ti isnt 16 gb
@theplayerofus319
@theplayerofus319 2 жыл бұрын
@@xplicitfishin no problem
@theplayerofus319
@theplayerofus319 2 жыл бұрын
@@xplicitfishin you realize i literally said the same as the guy above to mess with you right ? 😅
@modrribaz1691
@modrribaz1691 2 жыл бұрын
Performance drops the moment vram usage passes into reserved vram. Such the case already with 2022 titles like Ghostwire Tokyo by the way. This scenario will be much sooner, unfortunately. Soon, 8gb of vram will barely be enough.
@mycelium1456
@mycelium1456 2 жыл бұрын
So the vram is why it runs at like 40fps on 3070 unless I "trick" it into running right? I sometimes have to turn graphics to low then back to ultra to get it up to the 100 something plus fps. But Ive heard alot of different places doom had some issues to where you would have to trick it to work again because even sometimes when everything's on low it still has the same fps takes a few times to get it working so it actually might be doom that is messed up with memory or leak or something idk
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
You could be experience a memory leak, though this video was mostly a "worst case" or "future" scenario. In doom I'd drop the "texture pool size" down from ultra nightmare to just regular nightmare. It's really what made the 3070 choke, and all it does is reduce pop-in a little bit. Not super noticeable. Otherwise texture size and resolution are the other big hitters in vram usage.
@mycelium1456
@mycelium1456 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine only thing is I can put all the settings to low and itll still do the same unless I switch it to low then ultra then back to low then ultra a few times
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
What title are you running again? Is it just DOOM, or other games? It could be a memory leak, since changing your settings should clear out the frame-buffer. I've also had luck with alt-tabbing in and out a few times, though you might have to run in fullscreen to do that (alt+enter should swap between window'd and full screen btw)
@mycelium1456
@mycelium1456 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine it's doom eternal and that's the only game doesn't matter if I alt tab or not I have to change the settings to all low then back 10 to 20 times or turn rtx off then back on sometimes also I just have to trick it for It to work then it'll do all ultra with rtx on 1440p dlss quality over 120fps even more can't remember been awhile since I played it. Don't think it's vram limit because it'll do it with everything low and rtx off also. I think its a thing with dlss messing it up because that's what I heard along time ago
@redempire824
@redempire824 2 жыл бұрын
@Coil Whine I have a big dilemma ... should I buy rx6700xt or rtx 3070 for 1440p gaming ... after this video I'm close to buying rx 6700xt :) I guess that's your advice too?
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
If you upgrade more often; 3070, if you plan on keeping it a long time; 6700xt
@randyespoda1603
@randyespoda1603 8 ай бұрын
gonna upgrade from a geforce 740gt to a 3060 or 3070 ... yeah, I know, wtf. Anyhoo, it will be a laptop 3060 with only 6gb vram. Will it be sufficient for some heavy video editing and content creation or should I go with the 3070 instead? I know that davinci resolve f.e. is more happy with the 8gb, but it's a bit more expensive than the 3060...
@mrquicky
@mrquicky 10 ай бұрын
I've been playing around with artificial intelligence large language models on a variety of Nvidia cards. The 3060 is a beast and will happily execute many AI models that the 3060ti will just crash when attempting to load. The 3090 is cheap enough now that the 3060 is relegated to other tasks, but it's still a great card & will continue to be useful for the foreseeable future.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, I actually have a 6900xt as my gaming card and the 3060 12gb as my llama card. The radeon works if the stars align in linux (rocm!!!), but the 3060 is plenty fast with a 4bit gptq and exllama going on. Also used 3090s are such a good value, I'm constantly thinking about it for AI
@eggtarts286
@eggtarts286 7 ай бұрын
I can't wait for Intel and AMD to catch up to Nvidia engineering in AI applications. Until then, the 3060 12GB will be my workhorse.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 7 ай бұрын
@@eggtarts286 Same, I REALLY want to get my hands on a 16gb arc card, just to play with, but it's pretty hard to justify that purchase. Maybe when their next gen of Arc cards come out I can snag something...
@BANIAAAAK
@BANIAAAAK Жыл бұрын
What about Bit BUS? even if you have 12GB is 192bit enough? or its better to have 8GB with 256bit?
@marcol.9125
@marcol.9125 Жыл бұрын
If you got the answer, please let me know 😄 I need the gpu just for 4K video editing and some 3D modeling. And I want to use two WQHD monitors. Right now I’m looking at the MSI RTX 3060 (Ti) VENTUS 3X. 12GB vs 8GB. I‘m really unsure about this.
@BANIAAAAK
@BANIAAAAK Жыл бұрын
@@marcol.9125 Hey Marco I've upgraded my last 1060 GTX with a 192 bit bus for a ASUS GeForce RTX 3060 DUAL 12GB OC V2 obviously 12 GB but the same BUS, 192bit Also i lately updated my rig to 32GB ram for the PC, and i gotta say before when i had 16 gigs some game were lagging n such at high end. For gaming i would go with a 256 bit card, but for video editing not sure tho... If i had to go back i'd take 3060 Ti with 8 GIGS and 256bit of bus
@marcol.9125
@marcol.9125 Жыл бұрын
@@BANIAAAAK hey, thanks for your fast reply by the way 👍🏼 I finally went for the 3060 with 12 GB. As you mentioned, for gaming a faster gpu would be better, but for my needs I chose more ram over speed. Just remembered that in the past there where cases when the video and 3D program alerted too less ram and crashed. Don’t want that in the future 😬
@lukemcgregor6969
@lukemcgregor6969 2 жыл бұрын
Still have my 2060. Runs everything I throw at it at 1440.
@bassgobrrrrr
@bassgobrrrrr Жыл бұрын
wich is the latest game you can play at max settings? like ac odysse or so
@TheRishabhGoswami
@TheRishabhGoswami Жыл бұрын
I just bought 3070ti and now i am confused if its a good decison based on the 8gb vram that it has…..?
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
It really depends on how crazy you're going to get with your games. If you're running 4k, it gets a little dicey, but DLSS helps a bit. Worst case scenario, you just drop the texture size a bit and you'll be fine, especially at 1440p. This was an extreme test to see what would happen under crazy circumstances. Enjoy the card!
@Kamikatze_Gaming
@Kamikatze_Gaming Жыл бұрын
This is why I bought a RX 6800XT last week. 16GB VRAM will save me for a long time :)
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the wins from AMD this gen. Hopefully they can keep it up and we get some FineWineTM from the driver updates
@davidandrew5053
@davidandrew5053 Жыл бұрын
Man with the latest games loving lots of Vram, that 3070 and 3070 ti look like robbery at their MSRPs. They should be selling at much lower prices today. The 3060 ti is also looking slightly overpriced in 2023 at $399. I recently saw a youtubers gamplay video of the Dead Space remake on a 3060 12GB at 4k with dlss and it's very playable with the Vram usage around 9GB. But you can't do that on the more powerful 3060Ti, 3070, 3070 ti at the same settings without massive frame drops because of Nvidia's cheapness with vram smh. lol
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
Yup. It's a real shame that the AMD cards with good VRAM don't have good RT performance. At least they have FSR to compete with DLSS, but it's not always the same. Hopefully AMD can get more competitive and force Nvidia to compete. Shoot, the 4070ti only has 12gb! That's 3090 performance! It's really unfortunate that this will make the cards age more poorly than they otherwise should.
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen 7 ай бұрын
I'm looking for a cheap card to build an eGPU for some light gaming but mostly work. Pretty much settled on a 12GB 3060, nothing else really fits the profile of what I need in the budget I have. I'd love a 16GB Nvidia card, none exist in this price bracket or even close so 12GB 3060 it is.
@amanda.collaud
@amanda.collaud Жыл бұрын
his eyes are crazy, he has crazy eyes.
@dieaking6475
@dieaking6475 Жыл бұрын
Just upgraded my rig to Sabertooth z97 mark 1 + i74790k + Gtx 1080 To MSI z390a pro + i79700 + zotac Rtx 3070. Playing games in 2560x1080 75hz monitor. Prob gnne get a second 165hz monitor for playing fps. I can win matches with 75hz but vsync of and m slaying so yeah. Prob upgrade next year of the year after to 3080 or 3090 r so. I'll see
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
you're definitely solid at that res, sounds like a solid build!
@Dreamer2dev
@Dreamer2dev Ай бұрын
I'm confused between 3070 8gb and 3060 12gb can any one asnswer ?
@BFaulkPlaylists
@BFaulkPlaylists 2 жыл бұрын
How do I add more vram to my GPU for purposes of mining ? Is there a specific graphics card to obtain ? Love the content 💯
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
unfortunately you cant really add vram to a gpu, you just kinda have to live with the card you buy.
@BFaulkPlaylists
@BFaulkPlaylists 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine ok so if there is a card slot on my AMD Ryzen 7 I couldn’t buy another RTX2060 to add on ? Or does it just not work that way 🤣 I don’t know too much forgive me
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
​@@BFaulkPlaylists Dual GPUs for gaming is pretty much gone nowadays. You used to be able to run two or more GPUs (SLI for Nvidia, Crossfire for AMD), but the technology never really scaled well and you had all kinds of microstuttering and whatnot. Even then though you couldn't combine the VRAM (IE- 3070 + 3070 did not equal 16gb), it was simply duplicated. DirectX12 was supposed to allow multiple GPUs and combined VRAM but that never caught on either.
@mycelium1456
@mycelium1456 2 жыл бұрын
@@BFaulkPlaylists the ryzen 7 is your processer it's a chip behind your fan on your motherboard. Your motherboard would have another GPU slot
@brentpolk8331
@brentpolk8331 Жыл бұрын
So I render and do Ai apps, I already have a Asus 3090 tuf and I just picked up a tuf 3060. I want to run both to render and I don't play ANY games. Thanks for the video.
@voidboi0
@voidboi0 2 жыл бұрын
Really glad I found your video! Solid real world demonstration. I've been trying to decide between 3060/3070 and wondering how much of an issue the VRAM limit really is. Seems to be mixed opinions all over KZfaq. Coming from a 1660 Super 6Gb and gaming at 1440p... I'm now much more inclined to save money and opt for the 3060 12Gb ($330 MSRP). If the 3060Ti ever comes down near it's $400 MSRP, my decision will be less clear. But the 8Gb Ti still concerns me about future proofing, even though it seems to perform ~30% better on titles rn from what I've found.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
the 3060 is a decent card, though I'd double check the benchmarks for your favorite titles. FSR/DLSS helps a card punch above it's weight nowadays. Also, a 3060ti at MSP is probably my favorite card, it's the 3070 at inflated prices that really throws me off.
@voidboi0
@voidboi0 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine Yeah I'm confused why the 3070 doesn’t have at least 10gb vram. If I was gonna aim higher than the 3060Ti, what would be the next card you would consider?
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
@@voidboi0 12gb 3080
@jelly8594
@jelly8594 Жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine why is a 8gb GPU your favourite card? Isn't that the whole point of the video showing how limiting 8 GB can be? I'm confused, as I am in the market for a 3060ti.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
@@jelly8594 It's about price/performance. The 3060ti is pretty dang fast, and most people won't run into my crazy scenario with the 3070 in this video. This was more of a demo of why VRAM can matter, especially when the 3070 was billed as a 2080ti replacement (when the 2080ti has much more vram). The 3060ti is a great card if you can get a decent price, and it's a solid card for 1440p. For 4k though, I'd definitely get a higher end card (and make sure it's got more vram!) like the 3080 12gb.
@steveco1800
@steveco1800 Жыл бұрын
Like you say texture pool size doesn't make a perceivable difference, you're just telling the game to use too much vram for the sake of breaking it. I think 8gb for 1440p should be okay for a while, with maybe the odd tweak to some settings after 2-3 years but games will be more demanding then anyway so I'll be using medium settings anyway on my 3070 laptop.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this was mostly a fun experiment more than a "DON'T BUY A 3070" video. The 3070 is a solid card (I'd personally buy a 3060ti if MSRP was an option), and at 1440p you should be fine for a long time. I'm mostly just annoyed that they can market the 3070 as a "2080ti for 500 bucks" when you _really_ can't do 4k on it if games start pulling more vram. Enjoy the laptop, 1440p should be solid!
@22rohani
@22rohani 2 жыл бұрын
i have rtx3060 asus phoenix currently and it is better for me to upgrade to rtx3060ti or just wait for 40series?
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
I'd avoid the 3060ti if you already have a 3060. While the performance jump will be decent, I personally think that it's better to hold off until the 4000 series/ radeon 7000 series unless you're seriously having issues running your games.
@22rohani
@22rohani 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine thanks for the reply!
@josuetobar1196
@josuetobar1196 2 жыл бұрын
I plan on keeping my card for a long time hopefully past 5 years. I know that running out of vram is horrible so I got a 3090.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
That's definitely a way to stay safe. Sounds like you're one of the chosen few that could run flight sim in vr
@josuetobar1196
@josuetobar1196 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine it’s like you said 8gbs is not cutting it on some games now. Imagine in 5 years probably have to have like 16gb of VRAM or higher for AAA games.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
That's where a lot of the radeons shine. The 3080 with it's 10gb is _better_ but still less than a 2080ti! Shoot, I ran out of vram with my 3070 running cyberpunk after the patch the other day, crazy stuff
@oliverwilliam6931
@oliverwilliam6931 2 жыл бұрын
so paid $2000 probably for 3090 instead of buying cheaper card like 3070 and then you can buy a better card than 3090 for a lot less money
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
​@@oliverwilliam6931 Depends on the use case. If this is a person who only upgrades every 5 or so years, a 3090 will definitely still be a powerhouse by then. The math is interesting too, especially with inflation and the overall increase in GPU prices over the years. It legit could be a better deal to buy the big boy GPU now if you don't like upgrading every year or two.
@CuttinInIdaho
@CuttinInIdaho Жыл бұрын
dude...thanks for this. I was trying to decide...and the 3060 is the better value for future proofing
@chronospeedster1916
@chronospeedster1916 Жыл бұрын
Here in EU the 3060ti and the 3060 12gb has the same price (400 euros) and i play only at 1080p. The TI is a beast and i guess for 1080p i can play at high settings for a while, but the 12gb version is tempting but is less powerful. I don't know what to do...damn. Can someone suggest me?
@bluemanno7901
@bluemanno7901 Жыл бұрын
I'm struggling too! currently rtx 3060 ti is $45 more in the usa than rtx 3060. I guess I should get rtx 3060 because of the 12gb ram?
@chronospeedster1916
@chronospeedster1916 Жыл бұрын
@@bluemanno7901 In long terms the 3060 12gb is the best choice i think, in fact i changed my mind and i'll buy the AMD rx 6700 xt, basically it's a 3060ti but with a 12gb of ram and it cost 50-80 euros less.
@bluemanno7901
@bluemanno7901 Жыл бұрын
@@chronospeedster1916 yes I've just been looking into that. all the rx 6700 I find are like $20 more. Is it really equal to the rtx 3060 ti in performance? Plus the extra 4gb of ram?
@chronospeedster1916
@chronospeedster1916 Жыл бұрын
@@bluemanno7901 Yep and in some situation is better. Of course in nVidia optimized games the 3060ti can gain about 10fps more but it's nothing compared to have 4gb vram more and, trust me, that can save your life in the future. Now the 3060ti seems the right card to buy for his price but it's not, to me, i watched a lot of benchmark and the 6700 xt is basically the same with low cost for your wallet. I'll buy the amd card for sure, too scared because the bad optimized games of nowdays :/
@bluemanno7901
@bluemanno7901 Жыл бұрын
@chronospeedster1916 perhaps I'll get the 6700 xt, because the people saying that the 8gb won't age well make me nervous about getting the 3060 ti, even though it slightly outperfomes the 6700 xt overall right now.
@Redrios
@Redrios Жыл бұрын
phew, good thing I just bought my 3060 ti last month at 110% MSRP price and then my whole PC upgrade: not gonna go 1440p this year at least. And playing ultra at 4k, this is indeed VERY Specific... But I get the idea
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you're solid at 1440p for sure. I just thought it was crazy that nvidia skimped on memory for the 3070 and really the 3080 compared to AMD.
@Redrios
@Redrios Жыл бұрын
​@@CoilWhine yeah, also i dont go overboard in FPS, i can't tell the difference of anything above 90. Do you think 10 more years at least before 4k becomes mainstream? I dont see many releases of tv shows, movies, porn, anime, workshop, games, etc... The ones I usually see are usermod resolution. This tech is old, and our 40 series still wont attain 60 FPS at 4k. The ammount of power is ungodly, like PCIe 6. 4k will be the limit, for a long time. Cinemas dont play in 4k, IMAX might be the only instance of 4k by default
@TcVideoHosting
@TcVideoHosting 2 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to get 3060 ventus 3 with 12 gb. Says recommends 500w power supply. The guy building my computer has 600w in stock but would a 700w be better. Planning to edit 1080p 4k if I can
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
Idk what cpu youre running but a 600w or 700w would be fine
@53Memati53
@53Memati53 2 жыл бұрын
Lets assume your cpu is above average watt hungry at like 100W 3060 will be needing at peak max like 200W If you have 500W with Silver (85% efficiency) then you have 425W to use. 425W minus 100W minus 200W minus Mainboard with 70W minus Cooler/Drives/RAM/Fans with 50W: This roughly equals to 420W so for a 500W with Silver efficiency it should be OK. But to be sure check out your CPU and the rest of your system. And don't cheap out on a quality PSU. Go for Silver or Gold and in case you want to upgrade to something bigger then get 600W.
@malhaar5880
@malhaar5880 2 жыл бұрын
650w bronze will run everything well. Also, you can go with a ventus 2x, isn't really too different
@prabhakardhar1379
@prabhakardhar1379 Жыл бұрын
@@53Memati53 you got it totally wrong.. a 500w psu will provide approx 500w output in real(mostly 80+ gold psus offer full watt), 85% efficiency means the 500w is the 85% of total power consumption of psu through wall socket means the psu will consume approx 588 watt to produce 500w.
@AbdullahQumper
@AbdullahQumper Жыл бұрын
Is the RTX 3060 12gb better than the RTX 3070 8GB? dose this video answer that?
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
Did ya watch it?
@cosmicfxx
@cosmicfxx 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. Any idea how the high memory would or would not effect video editing ?
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
Video editing doesn't require as much vram as gaming, you can edit 4k video with 4-6gb of vram just fine
@samawimuslimstore4997
@samawimuslimstore4997 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine hi...how about 3d FRendering like enscape or Lumion? is it powerfull 8gb RTX3060 or 12gb 3060? im'm so confused now a.k.a GALAU
@teleman07
@teleman07 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine Are you sure, because ai enhanced rendering definitely loves vram. Just saying.
@syafiqanuar4650
@syafiqanuar4650 Жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine are you sure bro editing not use much vram?maybe editing content creator like youtuber and streamer..not a true editor you mean
@marcol.9125
@marcol.9125 Жыл бұрын
I‘ll also use my gpu only for 4K video editing and some 3D animation, no gaming, and I‘m going to use two WQHD monitors. So the question is, 12GB 3060 or 8GB 3060 Ti? What would you choose? I’m looking at the MSI GeForce RTX 3060 (Ti) VENTUS 3X right now.
@cankalaycioglu7460
@cankalaycioglu7460 2 жыл бұрын
I didnt have enough money so i bought an 3060 oc and ıts very good for me.
@siveshenragavulu2181
@siveshenragavulu2181 2 жыл бұрын
Hi for modded Skyrim (1080p 4K textures and folkvangr grass mods etc) would a rtx 3060 or 3060ti be better? Prices seem to be dropping abit.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
Id say the 3060ti because its a better value (at msrp) and it would take a monumental amount of mods to get Skyrim over 8gb of vram and even then you still only have to push 60fps
@siveshenragavulu2181
@siveshenragavulu2181 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine Thanks man
@BradPitBrasileiro
@BradPitBrasileiro Жыл бұрын
graças a esse cara, respondeu o meu problema vram, tenho isso na gtx 1060 de 3gb, graças a vc vou comprar a rtx 3060 de 12gb, muito obrigado
@prabhakardhar1379
@prabhakardhar1379 Жыл бұрын
if 3060 ti had 16 or atleast 12gb vram then definitely it would be the best card ever, but since future proofing is a considerable thing, atleast 12gb vram gpus should be considered, 192bit is low but not that low, 12gb 192bit is much better that 8gb 256bit. horizon zero, Valhalla , fc6, cyberpunk , cod warzone, ghostwire can consume 8gb + vram even in 1080p ultra sometimes, so definitely future games will consume even more to run just the games rx 6750xt, rx 6700xt, rtx 3060 , arc a770 16gb are the best affordable perfect vram cards now
@Sudegink
@Sudegink Жыл бұрын
How come there are reviews of 3070 maxed out settings in Doom without any signs choking...?
@Sudegink
@Sudegink Жыл бұрын
I'm trying to make up my mind should i take an offer to grab a used 3070 for 350 Eur. Its the same price for a brand new 3060 12gb
@Sudegink
@Sudegink Жыл бұрын
just realized the resolution you are testing it on is 4k... this video couldn't be more irrelevant to me at this point as I'm gaming on 1080p. Cya.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
@@Sudegink It's 4k with memory pool cranked all the way. Definitely not relevant to 1080 gamers, just a theoretical for future 1440p + gamers. A 3070 at 1080p is very, very fast. Just try to see if it was mined on. Luckily, a 3070 is only running GDDR6, rather than the 6x that you get on the 3080 and above. The 6x likes to fail when mined on due to the power draw.
@mentalhell4846
@mentalhell4846 Жыл бұрын
​@@CoilWhine I have 3070 ti and I'm using 1080p monitor..should I be worried ?
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
​@@mentalhell4846 You're probably fine for the time being, though games seem to be less and less optimized lately. Hopefully the devs stop being insane and let us run 1080p with 8gb of vram RTX might be rough though unfortunately
@randomshorts739
@randomshorts739 Жыл бұрын
That isn't true tho the smaller memory bus means even the future it won't be able to use that 12gb unless strange use cases like this the 3070 will still win
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
It's less about the 3060 being outright better, but more about how annoying it is that Nvidia cheaped out on vram with the 3070.
@davidmcclare443
@davidmcclare443 2 жыл бұрын
how can you make a video about gpu vram without mentioning the gtx970 3.5 + .5 gb
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
Lolol weve mention it quite a few times before
@davidmcclare443
@davidmcclare443 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine i am still salty and wont buy gigabyte products because neither gigabyte or the store responsible would give me the rebate on the 970
@MrScrewKiller
@MrScrewKiller 6 ай бұрын
do more VRAM give benefit for today VR games?
@kb-zk1yg
@kb-zk1yg 6 ай бұрын
Trivium, one of those things i completely forgotten about.
@-Rizecek-
@-Rizecek- 2 жыл бұрын
I have 3070 on 1440P and in newer games I set the textures to High quality. That's enough and you don't know the difference from Ultra in most newer games. But under load, yes. Most of the ultra on high textures I am able to reduce the graphics memory by 1-2GB. + I do not play preset games. I set the shadows to medium, post processing to high, water to ultra. I'll set most to high and that's enough. But I don't want to defend Nvidia again. She could supply at least 10GB at 3070. Instead, they issue 2060 + 3060 12Gb and 3070 Ti 16Gb and they think someone will buy the cards after a year.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah the settings I was using were kinda...insane. It's still just annoying to see a card of that calibur paired with that amount of vram. Just a minor nitpick and am interesting scenario down the road
@khazaharto515
@khazaharto515 2 жыл бұрын
Well, someone bought 3090 ti tho
@denishdahariya
@denishdahariya Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@quizreflex3887
@quizreflex3887 2 жыл бұрын
left a like and sub
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
You the real MVP
@ImperialDiecast
@ImperialDiecast Жыл бұрын
so the takeaway from this video is: in the FEW GAMES out there that use super optimized engines which can pump out an incredible number of FPS at 4k, like doom eternal or racing games, the 3060 12 GB will keep smooth sailing at 4k while the 3060ti, the 3070 and 3070ti crap themselves once the 8GB threshold is crossed. BUT in most OTHER games, the engine becomes so demanding at 4k that the 3060, which already outputs some 35 fps less than the 3070ti in most games, will chug along just as bad as a 3070ti but not due to lack of vram but due to lack of rasterization power.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
What's funny is that the 3060 can run 1440p RT on re4 remake at a respectable ~45 fps, but the 3070 crashes to desktop www.techpowerup.com/review/resident-evil-4-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/4.html or Last of us where the 3070 has higher average, but check out those minimums at 1080p ultra. Not 1440p, not 4k, but 1080p... www.techspot.com/review/2656-the-last-of-us-gpu-benchmark/ It's becoming a trend too. We've had hogwarts legacy, re4, and last of us all come out in recent times, and all of them demand insane amounts of vram at resolutions where a 3070 should crush it. Hell, the 3080 10gb is starting to feel like an insult, since it's starting to struggle where the 12gb can still keep up.
@ImperialDiecast
@ImperialDiecast Жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine 8.1GB vram usage at 1080p ray tracing OFF wtf lol: /watch?v=S34YfM4J8qk
@rizvabahrum3779
@rizvabahrum3779 Жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine is this true to? but for archviz use on unreal engine 5, is 3060 12gb gonna be bettr than 3060ti 8gb let's say?
@SerjStar
@SerjStar Жыл бұрын
What mouse are u using
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
I think it's the corsair sabre rgb pro
@mattfactor5278
@mattfactor5278 2 жыл бұрын
Thats why i went whit rx 6700xt over rtx 3070ti, and i play at 2560x1440p
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
Vram for days
@theplayerofus319
@theplayerofus319 2 жыл бұрын
Well the 3070ti rapes a 6700xt in that higher resolution for now and the coming 2 years
@blakedmc1989RaveHD
@blakedmc1989RaveHD Жыл бұрын
i'd like to see u do tha same test with a GTX 1080Ti it has 11gb of Vram
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
It would probably be fine, the game settings in this specific video just nudged past the 8gb limit of the 3070. 1080ti was too good of a card lmao.
@blakedmc1989RaveHD
@blakedmc1989RaveHD Жыл бұрын
@@CoilWhine i'm glad i still own tha card , my 1080Ti got me through tha scalper pandemic no problem
@henriray1440
@henriray1440 Жыл бұрын
I did the Doom Eternal test at 1440p with the 3070 and the 6800 XT, and ultra nightmare texture pool size on top of DLSS. The RTX 3070 pretty much gave me very low FPS, while the 6800 XT kept on chugging along with no issues whatsoever, because of its bigger VRAM bank.
@od13166
@od13166 Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind this is game that well optimized with RT
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
It's insanely well optimized!
@hideonbush96
@hideonbush96 Ай бұрын
what about a 3080 10gb? enough?
Жыл бұрын
Hi, it's great video about bottleneck! people always talk about less vram is enough. I don't know, it may be that the pr experts of the companies provide this and convince the communities. A gaming card should have a minimum vram of 12-16 gb. not accepting this can be explained by inexperience or ignorance. In my tests, I've seen cases where the rtx 3060 is much better than the rtx 3070. Until the 8gb vram is full, the rtx 3070 performs much better. When 8gb of vram is full, the rtx 3060 performs tens of times better. Who buys the rtx 3070 wants to believe he has a better card than the rtx 3060 in any case. but the truth is not like that. rtx 3060 is a much better card when 8gb vram is exceeded. if the rtx 3070 came out with 16gb vram, it would last for many years because it's a very fast card. I told that the reason for the aging of this card would be 8 gb vram. Of course they didn't believe. They mentioned vram speed etc. Why would people buy a more expensive card if they're going to bother not filling up 8gb of vram? No matter how fast the vram is, it is useless when full. like a ram. imagine 2 gb 6400 mhz ddr5 ram trying open a chrome on windows 11. speed totally useless if vram or ram filled. When the vram is full, games automatically lower the texture quality. Although it looks ultra, you will see medium or low. We call this utilization. Many people are unaware of this. We bought 12 gb rtx 3060 for all our adobe photoshop & davinci resolve workstation machines. The most functional card I've ever seen. 12gb vram for $329 is amazing. Saved us from buying the rtx a series gpu. When you install nvidia studio driver, you get real professional experience in programs. Thanks a lot for video. Finally someone said that the king is naked.
@rizvabahrum3779
@rizvabahrum3779 Жыл бұрын
Damn, this comment is the best insight for me. So, at the same price do you think 3060ti 7gb vs 3060 12gb is better for real time 3d rendering purpose? let's say doing archviz project on Unreal Engine 5?
@Tigga490
@Tigga490 Жыл бұрын
Wish I saw this video a year ago before buying a RTX3070 TUF OC 🤦🏾‍♂️
@aryannarose
@aryannarose Жыл бұрын
I'm waiting on the 4060 16gb version.
@thecoach1683
@thecoach1683 5 ай бұрын
DCS flight sim uses a ton of ram and vram
@stephentillett9428
@stephentillett9428 Жыл бұрын
I am currently using a 3060 ti, i'm starting to run out of vram now, i need to upgrade now 🤦
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the 3070 i'm using is getting annoying too... Trying to mess with AI stuff or play Re4 remake and it's just choking...
@williamkeyes3139
@williamkeyes3139 8 ай бұрын
So you have a 1080p monitor but set the PC to 4K........ then its not running 4K.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 8 ай бұрын
It is outputting 4k, it's supersampling. It renders at 4k then scales it to 1080p, it's not 100% accurate, but it's enough to saturate the frame buffer for the comparison.
@notpierce8660
@notpierce8660 Жыл бұрын
I have the gigabyte 3070 and I wish I did more research now
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
To be fair, nobody was really talking about it until like, recently. I'm still convinced it was a conspiracy lmao
@Roman-wv4rd
@Roman-wv4rd Жыл бұрын
3070ti does exit I had it over year ago, 3060ti is same as 3070 they both have 8 , only 3060 and 3080 got 12
@blake112x
@blake112x 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I have a limited knowledge of GPU, but thinking that a 3060 12gb (2022) will still play games at 4K when game will require more V-RAM seem illogical. Most people will be lucky to play 1080p on their 3060 12gb 4 years from now. Why would people need all this extra V-RAM for 1080p image? You want a GPU to last you 5 years. You need to by a more expensive GPU.
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
That's the problem. I was NOT saying to buy a 3060 for 4k gaming but rather pointing out that the 3060ti, 3070, and 3070ti are all limited by their 8gb of vram. A 3070ti _is_ an expensive card, and a powerful one at that. It's also marketed as a 4k card but will struggle unless you drop things like texture quality. Just showing that vram capacity does matter, and also how funny a 3060 beating a 3070 is.
@Roman-wv4rd
@Roman-wv4rd Жыл бұрын
Try any resident evil remake go up to like 12gb vram
@t3true-games
@t3true-games Жыл бұрын
WHY DOES THE 3060 HAVE MORE VRAM THAN THE 3070?!?!? I bought a ge76 with 3070 because they make it sound better, I use it for Lumion.. I could of used the extra 4GB of vram in the 3060 are YOU KIDDING ME?!?!!?!?!?!??!!?
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine Жыл бұрын
Its partially because of some memory bus shenanigans, but it definitely feels like a huge insult to buyers to save a few bucks. Wait, the 3070TI is also 8gb...cmon nvidia...
@nimarasuli2450
@nimarasuli2450 2 жыл бұрын
That's EZ 2 fan is 3060 3 fan is 3070
@CoilWhine
@CoilWhine 2 жыл бұрын
Its funny cause the 3070 cooler is the same one they use on the 3070,3070ti,3080,3080ti, and 3090
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