Nvidia artificially restricts lifespan of cards. That's the fact

Ridiculous how they don't get at least 10gb at those prices...

Every generation, NVIDIA taunts proprietary stuff. Does anyone remember Simultaneous Multi-Projection? Then RT, DLSS, etc. They do not leap in terms of standard areas (such as VRAM) as to not paint themselves into a corner. If the 3080 had been 12GB, the 4080 can’t downgrade to 10, etc. In that sense, they cut corners. That a 3070 has 8GB when the 1070 and 2070 had the same, is mind boggling. And let’s not forget the weirdness of the 970 memory (3.5GB at one speed 500MB at another).

Interesting video! The benchmarks this reviewer devised seem contrary to those by Jansn Benchmarks where the 3070 and 3060ti outperformed the 3060 at 4K with RT. I’d be interested to know the full system specs and differences in graphics settings.

This game had memory leak at launch. I don't know if it has it anymore, texture setting doesnt do much to quality of textures, it's just allocation and can be lowered at ease.

With directstorage and fast NVME ssds getting cheaper and all the new unreal engine stuff I imagine the requirements will only get worse in time. Because devs will be encouraged to use higher resolution textures

12GB should be minimum for the next Gen GPU's.

Bro I saw your video on the amd gpu and switching to amd yesterday, I search this up today and find you again! I know tech youtubers usually do a large variety of videos expanding across all stuff related to pc but since you're small I did not expect this at all lol

its whats keeping me away from 6-8gb as upgrades, ever since skyrim mods i knew i needed more then 6-8gbs, ideally 10-12 at least i think

Back in the day when I bought the 3060, everyone was like go for the 3060ti and criticizing the 3060, now I'm glad I kept the 3060.

I Always knew that the 3060 12gb was a bargain a bought It at 400 €

I usually only game at 1440p anyway. I don't think my eyesight is good enough to fully appreciate 4k over 1440p, depending on the game. This was very interesting.

All of the rtx 3xxx series with 8 gigs are TRASH. The whole 3xxx series actually has 5 cards: 3060, 3080 and its ti, 3090 and its ti. VRAM is key in photoshop, premiere, ai enhanced video editing and future gaming with lots of hi-def textures even at 1080p (for 3060). So sad seeing nvidia gimping its own line up while giving 3060 the odd treatment.

Hope new softwares will help in this matter because I am not planning to spend another penny. I paid double the price for the RTX3070ti and as I mentioned in the previous thread, the Vram was the only thing that dissapointed me. Thanks for the video!

Yea when Nvidia "launched" the 3080 with 10gb I was taken aback given the 2 previous flagship cards Turing & Pascal had 11gb. That said depends on resolution and monitor refresh rates 10gb for now is ok though 16gb would've been nicer to see like 6800xt. My 2080 runs this game super smooth all maxed out so I'll hold off for the moment not that I could upgrade if I could. good coverage Dan as always ☺️

The frame drops are 100% vram related

Really good video subject

3060ti is stripped down 3070,hence 8 gb vram,if they went with 12 gb on 3060ti nothing else would sell.

I argue yes, as fh5 can need more than 8 gig at 1080p max settigs, and the massive fps hit was a pretty good indicator it was true. ( and the constant notifications and other weird stuff too, this was with a 3070ti and a770). I think its kinda okay for the 2060super and 2070super, anything above that really needs more as those cards could use some more Vram in some games. and considering their price I do expect the to run anygame at pretty good settings. but in fainess the 3070 is a scam anyways since its basically a 3060ti that costs 100 bucks more. like just oc the 3060ti, be a bit better than 3070 base and keep that 100 bucks.

3070 really should have had 12gbs

This is what my concern is right now i have gtx 1070 8gb and i game @ 1080p but i am just waiting for 3060ti to come back in stock at "normal price" also i am gonna upgrade my monitor to 144hz 1440p so 8gb of 3060ti ain't gonna last long i mean from 2022 onwards we will only see games released for ps5 series x which will increase vram requirememts i believe so now 12gb is the sweet spot but nvidia offers 12gb only for 3060 which is alot weaker compared to 3060ti it is a very confusing situation right now tbh :/

I just want to do 3d so i need that 12 gb VRAM hope Nvidia launches super series cards with higher VRAM like 16 gb with 3070 super that will be a great option

I remember when the 970 gave 4gb (3.5) and the 390 gave 8gb of vram. THAT is the fine wine of amd gpu's. They last longer because they "feel" smoother years later than the nvidia cards.

Please help I wanna buy a new pc and I want it to run everything on max settings in 1080p so should I buy rtx 3070 or rtx 3060 12gb

Hi, So RTX 3060 will do a better job for 3D animation than a 3070? I was with a 3060 but since the prices dropped I returned the 3060 and I got the 3070 for almost the same price. I thought the 3070 would be better for (Lumion/Twinmotion), but I tested a demo project of Twinmontion and it already consumed 75% of the 8GB VRAM. So with a 3060 the only thing that would be worse compared to a 3070 would be the low fps using these 3D softwares? The only good thing about the 3070 is the higher fps? And the only cards that has more than 8GB is the 3060 and 3080, 3090 but I couldn't afford a 3080/3090.

I played RE4 remake on RTX 3060 (same engine) ant it used TOTAL of 11400MB of VRAM. You have separate memory monitoring for memory usage in MSI afterburner. RAM & VRAM the game is using, and TOTAL system RAM & VRAM usage.

@Anyone Would 8GB VRAM be future proof for about 3-4 years? I will only game at 1080/1440p. About to get RTX 3070TI (8GB) and not sure will it be a mistake or not?

Tbf it's very difficult comparing the two vram on these two cards. The 3060 vram is much slower than on the 3070 192-256 bus speed and 6-8 lanes. This is why the 3060 has 12gb. But I will say that with 99% of current gamed 8gb is definitely enough for max 1440p and high 4k. But going forward I do fear that games are just going to demand more and more. We really need a big jump up in power efficiency. To go much further. The power demands are just getting silly and unsustainable.

I’ve watched a few benchmarks and the 3070 and 3060 ti beat the 3060 in 4K. The data you showed might have been a memory issue at launch or something.

should i get 3060 ti 8gb vram or 3060 12gb vram? i know 3060 ti is more powerful but i was playing FC6 and it was using 11 gb vram on 2060?

Should I buy 3070 Ti or 6800XT? I'm more worried about this Vram issue but 6800XT has 16GB Vram which is more than enough for 5 years to me.

but why my graphic card memory VRAM just 6gb? meanwhile ghost recon wildlands 8gb. weird

Eh, your reported game memory being utilised in Afterburner will max out at your card's VRAM limit. So since RTX 3070 has 8GB VRAM, Afterburner will report close to 8GB being utilised (0.5GB is reserved for your OS etc), even if the game requires more than 8GB of VRAM to run properly. That said, Resident Evil Village's in-game estimate that claims it needs 12GB of VRAM is totally wrong. However I do believe Village does go over 8GB of required VRAM at 1440p maxed out + RT.

the 3080 should have been 12g at launch thats why i got a 6800xt my 1080ti had 11g so i was not going to go backwards down to 10g.

I played RE Village with my 2060 super and my VRam never was a limti, also my raytracing performance was above 60 fps.

you have to play game like 2hr you will see diffrent not like 10min i had gtx 1060 3gb version when i play assasin valhala afther 2hr getting vram problems fps dropped 60 to 14 that was horrible i was reseting game and start again

This is the begining of the end of life as we know it.... 8GB not enough Vram

8GB vram is enough for 4k maxed out for 95% title, and 100% on 2K, vram usage isnt as same as vram allocation that show on MSI afterburner

The RE Engine VRAM calculator is seriously busted, lol Given RE engine affiliation with AMD I wouldn’t be surprised if it was done on purpose to make nvidia cards look bad, but that might just be my conspiratorial side talking...

frame drops were most likely due to drm and not vram usage, i love resi 8 but this feels like a shitty console port

You are using the shared memory aka using system ram for a slow pacing game you wont even notice but exceed it in a fast pase game and you will notice

Enable framerate and frametime graph, turn on ray tracing and see what happens

12gb is the minimum for the near future proof there are few games uses over 10gb already

"Card probably is not powerful enough to max game out at 4k ANYWAY" ... That did it for me

I play games at 4k with my 3060 and I see 8-11gb vram usage... im getting worried because i wanted to upgrade to 3080 10gb ...

Yeah but the problem is not games released TODAY is games that eill be released in the coming years...

I've played this on RX580 8GB in 1080p it runs completely fine

Although the game still lets you play it... you aren't going to see the full potential graphics or Model Quality that requires the 12.21GB especially at 4k. It tells you what the requirements are to play at those settings and even marks it in red to indicate that you're insufficient on VRAM. So the game starts but is essentially downgraded to playable settings. Other games such as Doom Eternal will flat out deny you with an error message and let you know straight-up that you can't continue with those settings if you're over your VRAM limit.

My 1080 has 8gb of ram It just dosen't make sence

can harm the graphics card if i put on the red limit of ram ??

does nvidia want a customer to sit on a comfortably future proofed product for years? probably not :-D it's probably banking on the idea that neither would amd but amd has been putting more in theirs... what will intel do?

Oh. Wait. I just realized... after watching the Vid and also reading the Comments... this is not the 8GB is not enough Vid i thought it would be regarding RE4. This is about RE 8 lol. Funny... Guess YT Algorithm thought i would be interested in this Vid here as well.

what about 4070ti in recent games and in a near future will it be enough? hmmmm

Bro why does amd nvidia release freaking 8GB graphic cards men even 1080p 8GB not enough 12 minimum even in budget

Then that means 1080Ti is better than 2080 super and 3060Ti

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I have a RTX 3070 with 8GB of VRAM and the RE4 Remake crashes when its using more as 8GB of VRAM the card is powerful enough but the vram to low payed 500 Euros a few days ago… thx Nvidia… :(

Me with my middle of the road 3060Ti *Oh NO*

As long as i can play on médium or high settings im ok

Absolute madness that's what it is! Pre ordered the game but couldn't play it yet due to not having enough time and this is the first time I'm hearing about the 12 gb bs! My rtx 2070 super isn't good enough for 1080p ultra?! The game is phenomenal and the visuals are great too but 12 gb vram?! I can't even find the words!! And there's also the Denuvo issue that I've seen.... Holyshit Capcom!!

The game is perfectly playable with 4 gb vram on high

I play at 1440p and have already played games that come very close to 10gb like Red Dead Redemption 2, Horizon Zero Dawn and Microsoft Flight Simulator over 11gb in some areas and I'm not talking about allocation either. One of the reasons why I went for the 6800xt is the extra vram. To me it made no sense to buy a new high end gpu at the end of last year that had only 10gb of vram. I know its ok for now but that's borderline and not good enough for a product that's supposed to be high end and endure the games to come of a new generation. If Nvidia had put in even 14gb of vram I would've went with a 3080 most likely. DLSS and Ray Tracing while nice are secondary features to me that can't be universally applied like rasterized performance and video memory can. It sucks you have to have trigger warning in comments these days but I'm not anti one company and pro another. I don't care for any of that. I've always bought what I feel best suits my personal needs for the price, something that everyone else should do as well imo. We've had 8GB vram for many years now. The consoles have 16gb vram, the 3060 has 12gb vram for Christ's sake. The 3070 should've had 10gb minimum, 12 preferably imo.

3060 ti is 15 percent more expensive than 3060. Should I get 3060?

You can see the 6700 XT also got outperformed by the 3070, until you get to 4k where it outperformed the 3070 even more than the 3060 did. If you game at 4k you should definitely aim for 12gb, although most games are fine at 8gb no one buys these expensive flagship GPUs to last only a year or two, and I guarantee more games will consume even more vram quickly

Not for me, I have a 6GB card and it's not even close to enough, I like installing lots of mods that use vram.

Maybe it just is loading worse textures because it knowns you have lower vram? Hmmmmmm

The game doesn't load texture because there is less vram. This is auto game uses lower texture quality because of lower vram.

This is a fringe case, where we have a game that is easy to run on the GPU-load. This allows the 3060 to out run the 3070 in 4k. In MOST cases and moving in to the future. Running a game at 4k on ultra settings on the 3060 will hit the GPU limit way before it hits any VRAM limit. And I would argue that the same goes for 3070, its not a 4k ultra GPU any more. In almost every case, you will hit a compute power limit before you hit any v-ram limit. And of you do hit a v-ram limit you can just lower the texture one notch and it will be fine. This discussion brings me back to good old OEM-PC builds where they would but som crappy gpu and just tripple the V-ram on it for marketing purposes.

3060 is playable at 30 fps 4k max settings with RT, while neither the 3060 ti nor the 3070 are playable with those settings. So much for vram not making a difference in games, 3060 will continue to outperform in the future as games become more demanding and requiring more vram.

Hahaha Nvidia is not doomed they are actually doing great, it's the owners that are doomed. Infact it's great news for them, now their beloved "customers" have a reason to spend another 1200usd plus on their new gpus

I was going to buy a RTX 3060 Ti, but now I think RTX 3060 will be better for that extra v-ram.

Answer simple: YES, buy rtx 3080 with 12gb

3070 will last me years, not arsed about ray tracing and ultra settings at 1440p