Which Chaos God to Choose in Warhammer 40K? Khorne, Nurgle, Slaanesh and Tzeentch Discussed!

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Auspex Tactics

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@papanurgle8393
@papanurgle8393 3 жыл бұрын
Whoever you end up choosing, know that I still love you.
@bassal_the_rotten7645
@bassal_the_rotten7645 3 жыл бұрын
Truly, you, Grandfather are the most benevolent god there is! My liyalty is unwavering and i shall bring many victories in your name!
@papanurgle8393
@papanurgle8393 3 жыл бұрын
@@bassal_the_rotten7645 You're my beautiful boil 🤎
@TheNarwhal85
@TheNarwhal85 3 жыл бұрын
I choose the emperor. May he rain death upon you warp xenos
@timbot87
@timbot87 3 жыл бұрын
@@bassal_the_rotten7645 I was going to give you an upvote but you're already at 7.....🙂
@MrCopenhagen113
@MrCopenhagen113 3 жыл бұрын
Lies.
@arly803
@arly803 3 жыл бұрын
I misheard the opening line as "So what if you've pleasured yourself to the dark gods" and in that moment I knew there was only one answer.
@BrawnyStream
@BrawnyStream 2 жыл бұрын
Papa Nurgle…
@damnyiffers
@damnyiffers 2 жыл бұрын
There's only ever been the one choice. And he's purple and thirsty
@sixela6
@sixela6 2 жыл бұрын
@@damnyiffers she who thirsts accepts the most dehydrated of us all
@mensrea1974
@mensrea1974 3 жыл бұрын
Given how popular Marines are and the core of the IP being built up around the Heresy it just amazes me that GW doesn't make more effort to make Chaos Marines consistently competitive.
@dorukhanozen2580
@dorukhanozen2580 3 жыл бұрын
You do not choose your Chaos God. Chaos God chooses you.
@AlexanderForsman
@AlexanderForsman 3 жыл бұрын
Or like with Angron, when Lorgar forced Khorn to choose his brother=D
@papanurgle8393
@papanurgle8393 3 жыл бұрын
You're goddamn right.
@EvelynOccult
@EvelynOccult 3 жыл бұрын
@@papanurgle8393 is daddy nurgle ok as well or only papa because daddy is more of a slaanesh thing?
@deevan1415
@deevan1415 3 жыл бұрын
Only in Soviet Russia.
@tzeechgodofchange3197
@tzeechgodofchange3197 3 жыл бұрын
@@papanurgle8393 hey nurgle I still hate you
@Marc-hm6bz
@Marc-hm6bz 3 жыл бұрын
kinda sad that in the thumnail, while Tzeencht and Nurgle have cool current minis in their picture, Khorne has the uber derpy 20 year old zerker and Slaanesh a literaly 30k mini from another game system lol
@wiccanthropy1956
@wiccanthropy1956 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Want to play chaos? Play 30k it's all we have left
@ZombieMonkey7
@ZombieMonkey7 3 жыл бұрын
@@wiccanthropy1956 well that or AOS, where Chaos gets a massive amount of attention. I mean just look at the new models in the Hedonites of Slaanesh range *whistles*
@wiccanthropy1956
@wiccanthropy1956 3 жыл бұрын
@@ZombieMonkey7 I agree except, for the traitor but not chaos armies. I still want to play alpha legion. Or night lords or iron warriors. Not spooky tm ghosts or #steamy dwarves. I don't even know if there is an alpha legion equivalent.
@papanurgle8393
@papanurgle8393 3 жыл бұрын
They're angry little men, just like Angron.
@wiccanthropy1956
@wiccanthropy1956 3 жыл бұрын
@@papanurgle8393 listen, just cause you got the worst primarch doesn't mean you can stop being nice for even a second grandpa
@reginlief1
@reginlief1 3 жыл бұрын
All the gods are really freaking cool, but tzeentch is just the coolest to me. I’m always drawn to that duplicitous, unknowable, highly magical aesthetic.
@IQuixy
@IQuixy 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@dr.stronk9857
@dr.stronk9857 Жыл бұрын
I too, enjoy *horrors beyond comprehension*
@moodyowlproductions4287
@moodyowlproductions4287 8 ай бұрын
Humanity walks it own path..NOT THERE!!!!!!
@Uncle_Buck
@Uncle_Buck 3 жыл бұрын
The ones that like to hug.. but for different reasons.. Nurgle and Slaanesh.
@toomanyhobbies116
@toomanyhobbies116 3 жыл бұрын
I currently play Death Guard, since they have some of the best looking minis, but as soon as the Emperor's Children get a range re-fresh I'm going all in for Slaanesh
@wiccanthropy1956
@wiccanthropy1956 3 жыл бұрын
Same way for me except with khorne. When we get there, there will not be a single vein unopened
@filwilliamson9149
@filwilliamson9149 3 жыл бұрын
Bold of you to assume that Emperor’s Children will get a range refresh within the next decade
@toomanyhobbies116
@toomanyhobbies116 3 жыл бұрын
@@filwilliamson9149Bold of you to assume they won't.
@qyzxger790
@qyzxger790 3 жыл бұрын
@@toomanyhobbies116 Well i would say that it will take a bit aswell. :D First of all they need to bring back a new loyal primarch and THEN this might come up after that. :) I doubt that they will release them without their primarch to advertise it better. :)
@1xoACEox1
@1xoACEox1 2 жыл бұрын
My exact sentiments. The DG are cool and serve me well for now, but the second they release a proper noise marine kit...
@PlasticAddict301
@PlasticAddict301 3 жыл бұрын
Tzeentch is the most "chaos" to me. Eldritch, ever-changing, unknowable.
@joestevenson5568
@joestevenson5568 Жыл бұрын
Right? Khorne in particular just likes fighting, which is basically the same as every "good" faction in 40k.
@richmcgee434
@richmcgee434 3 жыл бұрын
2:39 Flesh hounds have had minis since the late 80s. Realm of Chaos: Slaves to Darkness came out in 1988 and they predated that book by a bit. They're older than many current 40K players are. The plastic kits are at least the third iteration of the concept.
@Balyrion
@Balyrion 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I still have 5 of the old metal ones I bought when I first started playing 40k in the early 90s.
@CrimsonTemplar2
@CrimsonTemplar2 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. I will concede that the original flesh hounds look very gaunt & weedy compared to the new plastic kits, but they were some of the better metal daemon minis back in the day.
@manyslayer5889
@manyslayer5889 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Came to say this (and my metal flesh hounds from the early 90s thank you as well). Flesh hounds pre-date skull cannons ans chariots for Khorne.
@egnaroelprup
@egnaroelprup 3 жыл бұрын
Undivided baby. Why limit yourself to one god when you can have it all?
@filwilliamson9149
@filwilliamson9149 3 жыл бұрын
I’m assuming you play Word Bearers?
@radarreally2110
@radarreally2110 3 жыл бұрын
Hang on, lemme go get my Iron Warriors.
@josephskiles
@josephskiles 3 жыл бұрын
AVE DOMINUS NOX!
@egnaroelprup
@egnaroelprup 3 жыл бұрын
@@filwilliamson9149 originally a black legion player back when abaddon was metal and he fell apart for no reason so I never painted him Thinking of stripping them all down and going red corsairs
@filwilliamson9149
@filwilliamson9149 3 жыл бұрын
@@egnaroelprup Fair enough. Whenever I think of chaos undivided I think of word bearers.
@jasonmolenaar119
@jasonmolenaar119 3 жыл бұрын
You got the ragers, the superspreaders, the "screw it, well see what happens" and the struggle snugglers
@cameronsharp2022
@cameronsharp2022 3 жыл бұрын
I like how there's a phoenician guard there from 30k before he was slaanesh...
@sagacity1071
@sagacity1071 3 жыл бұрын
Are we ever going to get new khorne or slaanesh marines? I realise that slaanesh doesnt win GW many Twitter points but is kinda sad given how amazing the nurgle and TS models are.
@sonarchy5158
@sonarchy5158 3 жыл бұрын
I believe Slaanesh got support fairly recently in AoS with Saint Seiya looking miniatures I hope we'll get Emperor's Children mini, I always thought the concept of Noise Marine sounded really cool
@cultist1762
@cultist1762 3 жыл бұрын
In all likelihood we will with Khrone being released released before Slaanesh as Khorne sells better over all, and it is feasible to imagine that Angron would sell better than Fulgrim. I say this being Slaanesh fan.
@flatheadgg2443
@flatheadgg2443 3 жыл бұрын
Slaanesh is the living embodiment of all the twitter SJW's, l can't see any way how they wouldn't hit a massive score by releasing the first official non binary transsexual space marine drag queens of colour promoting body positivity. l mean they did a big release with AoS and all the twitter people loved it, so why not 40k too?
@hossdelgato6098
@hossdelgato6098 3 жыл бұрын
Daemons of Khorne here, I’m just here to say it’s tough to get to the other side of the board. Carrying 3 thirsters and like 80+ letters, it’s very easy to get shot off the board turn in turn 2
@GT-dr2qw
@GT-dr2qw 3 жыл бұрын
I've always enjoyed Papa Nurgle, Death Guard are my favorite chaos legion and the model range has been a blast to collect.
@senorsuave
@senorsuave 3 жыл бұрын
Emperors Children for sure! Give me phoenix terminators in 40k alongside new noise bois, a new Lucius model, and big scary snake Fulgrim. Throw in a loyal clone Fulgrim if GW is feeling really spicy
@cultist1762
@cultist1762 3 жыл бұрын
While I am right there with you, I do think the next Cult Legion will be World Eaters since Khorne generally sells better.
@1xoACEox1
@1xoACEox1 2 жыл бұрын
EC children getting the full DG treatment would be amazing. But like you said id take a primarch, terminators and noise marines and be happy.
@vitorzelao
@vitorzelao 3 жыл бұрын
Man he has to use a forge world model to represent a emperor's children marine, kinda sad that primaris have a full range and it's a "new" army and EC don't even have a noise marine model ( plese don't bring the solo noise marine into discussion, that is a joke on GW's part).
@gloomwoodguard9527
@gloomwoodguard9527 3 жыл бұрын
I fully agree, all the others got squads if their specialized marines so where are the noise boyz?
@josephskiles
@josephskiles 3 жыл бұрын
Hey at least they have a model, my night lords can't even get rules for their chain glaives in 40k for some reason
@Grim67894
@Grim67894 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephskiles night lords aren’t a major chaos god legion though
@josephskiles
@josephskiles 2 жыл бұрын
@@Grim67894 yet that doesn't stop the black legion
@Grim67894
@Grim67894 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephskiles hmm black legion.. the main antagonist of the setting hmm I wonder why
@arachnofiend2859
@arachnofiend2859 3 жыл бұрын
Just yesterday I ran a game where I played Tzeentch Daemons vs. Khorne Daemons. It was a bit feels bad for my opponent how his bloodthirsters got completely crippled by their wound profile while my LoC's mostly didn't care.
@KnightsofTitan
@KnightsofTitan 3 жыл бұрын
Demon tips for noobs: 1. Exalt (stratagem from engine war) your greater demons Everytime. Unexalted demons are not worth their points 2.make an exalted lord of change your warlord. Give him aura of mutability, impossible robes, and incomporeal form. He will be one of the hardest models in the game to kill. Running multi-god is just a viable a mono. If you run multi- god take all slanesh models in a patrol detachment. The mono slanesh buff is a must have. The rest depends on your opinion. With great unclean ones watch out for the fact that they have 18 wounds unlike the 16 the rest have. He can't hide behind buildings. Beasts of nurgle are S tier in Max sized units. Nurglings are S tier. They can start on objectives and are just tough enough to divert critical enemy attention for a turn to get them off. 66 pts of awesome. Spam great demons. I take 4 keeper of secrets in every list. The named greater demon for each god doesn't count towards the rules of three. So you can take 4 of each greater demon. There are a lot more tips I can give, but I want you guys to use what's here to inspire you to have fun and know that you can win. Have fun
@01oo011
@01oo011 3 жыл бұрын
Thought I was seeing things but no, that’s a Phoenix terminator. Would be cool seeing some converted.
@Internetbutthurt
@Internetbutthurt 3 жыл бұрын
GW could easily include rules for each Legions specialist terminators for 40K for a bit of extra flavour but they dont because they are lazy and dont give a crap about CSM
@tzeechgodofchange3197
@tzeechgodofchange3197 3 жыл бұрын
Ah yea hello senate I would like to invite you into my library for a cup of tea and a nice chat
@larrystewart8183
@larrystewart8183 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t decide, so I have all 4 of them, though by far Khorne is my largest.
@stripeybag6977
@stripeybag6977 3 жыл бұрын
They'll all be purged in holy fire. Also would like to point out that the World Eaters were Khorne's second choice, his first were the Blood Angels but Sanguinius ain't no traitor.
@soupalex
@soupalex 3 жыл бұрын
source? (on the "second choice" thing; i don't need canon confirmation that sanguinius was loyal to the emperor)
@lolply54
@lolply54 3 жыл бұрын
@@soupalex Look up the Signus campaign where sanguinious was tempted but resisted chaos (it predates the Shadow crusade by a 1-2yy, where angrond was demonified)
@cptndunsel2670
@cptndunsel2670 3 жыл бұрын
There is also some evidence that Nurgle wanted Perturaubo and his Iron Warriors.
@lolply54
@lolply54 3 жыл бұрын
@@cptndunsel2670 where is this, i never knew that but seems fitting
@zellak-pr7pu
@zellak-pr7pu 3 жыл бұрын
I have an Emperors Children biker army .....Hope GW bring out a Fulgrim that can keep up. :-)
@Grubnar
@Grubnar 3 жыл бұрын
or ... *DOOMRIDER!*
@ReubenAotearoa_
@ReubenAotearoa_ 3 жыл бұрын
AND Doomrider. \M/
@zellak-pr7pu
@zellak-pr7pu 3 жыл бұрын
@@ReubenAotearoa_ Woah....i have never heard of this ! Looks like a new kitbash project. Cheers guys !
@NonApplicable1983
@NonApplicable1983 3 жыл бұрын
The Thousand Sons will always be my favorite chaos legion, but Slaanesh does look like fun.
@NonApplicable1983
@NonApplicable1983 3 жыл бұрын
@@strixt lmao
@numasofunny
@numasofunny 2 жыл бұрын
woah mad mew mew i didn't know you played 40k
@NonApplicable1983
@NonApplicable1983 2 жыл бұрын
@@numasofunny I also play BattleTech.
@Retard634
@Retard634 2 жыл бұрын
>trans flag >loves slaanesh Color me shocked
@Grithertime
@Grithertime 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone that has a standalone codex... So either tzeentch or Nurgle.
@endlesswaffles6504
@endlesswaffles6504 3 жыл бұрын
Nurgle doesn't sound that bad. His followers seem the most jolly.
@fiofio601
@fiofio601 3 жыл бұрын
They have the best pets
@clockworkpanda8
@clockworkpanda8 3 жыл бұрын
Idk slaneesh followers seem to be really enjoying themselves, you know since thats kinda their whole thing.
@Chadegon1693
@Chadegon1693 3 жыл бұрын
@@clockworkpanda8 yeah but are they truly happy or perpetually bored?
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 3 жыл бұрын
kinda a hypocrite though, him and his like ramble on about the joy of disease yet they specifically don't feel the pain and agony from the diseases they carry. none of the other chaos gods are immune to their own force like nurgle
@crudgamers2672
@crudgamers2672 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, join nurgle. We have the best *farts
@snakeplissken6649
@snakeplissken6649 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the early 2000's when i did tournaments I used a Chosen of Khorne army when playing Fantasy. Most times i ended up winning the Best General which at that time was the best battle score not to finish in the top 3 as that were deceided by multiple factors not just winning the actual battle itself. Back then in 40k my tournament army was Iyanden Craftworld Eldar. Having been basically retired from the hobby for about 15 years i'm just getting back into it & starting with a Thousand Sons army though i might put it on hold until the new Codex arrives & Go Death Guard in the meantime. I am more of an undivided type though so i'll probably do an army of each God & field them with Black Legion if i was to play an Armageddon sized battle. For amusement value here's my Chosen of Khorne fantasy army. Lord on Chaos Dragon. Exalted Champion on Daemonic Steed. Exalted Champion on Juggernaught leading 5 Chosen Knights of Khorne. 2 Chaos Chariots. 2 units of 6 Flesh Hounds of Khorne. 2000 points of murderous goodness. Funniest battle was against Skaven. My opponent basically gathered his entire army in a huge block in the middle of his deployment zone. I got first turn. Everything in my army had a move of at least 7 so i marched across the battlefield to stop outside his charge range but in mine. His turn he hardly moved & what ever shooting he had was more dangerous to himself as a Warpfire Thrower exploded & my dispel dice negated all of his spells. My next turn everybody charged. Some units fled & were caught & rundown due to failing fear tests. Every body inflicted pretty much max damage in combat to such an extent he didn't get to fight back & after a lot of failed break tests & subsequent panic tests all he was left with was his Grey Seer on screaming bell & it's unit of Stormvermin. First thing he had to do next turn was take a terror test due to the dragon & the rest of his army promptly left the table :)
@Incineratorking
@Incineratorking 3 жыл бұрын
I can answer the question for you. Nurgle
@williamcadenhead6759
@williamcadenhead6759 3 жыл бұрын
You know what would be great, GW releasing Fulgrim and Angron in a box set, fighting against each other, with their own codices. That would be great, not gonna happen, but it would be great...
@thekingjojo7489
@thekingjojo7489 3 жыл бұрын
this video shouldve been, "Papa Nurgle always loves you, the end"
@Obsidianen
@Obsidianen 3 жыл бұрын
Malice is the only Chaos God for me. ANARCHY, DESTRUCTION, PURE CHAOS!
@domotrizz5710
@domotrizz5710 3 жыл бұрын
Tru
@wiccanthropy1956
@wiccanthropy1956 3 жыл бұрын
That is some orderly typing for worshipping pure chaos
@Obsidianen
@Obsidianen 3 жыл бұрын
@@wiccanthropy1956 Chaotic does not mean uncultured. ;D
@RSBurgener
@RSBurgener 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Some of the best ideas are the old ideas.
@wiccanthropy1956
@wiccanthropy1956 3 жыл бұрын
@@Obsidianen culture is an ordered structure. There can be a none when chaos is in MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE!!!!
@JamesFTM84
@JamesFTM84 3 жыл бұрын
I feel suitably inspired to go and paint some bloodletters now. Cheers, AT.
@ParaFoxxen
@ParaFoxxen 3 жыл бұрын
“His enemies shall wither and die. His allies shall wither and die. The universe and all within it shall wither and die. And when the Great Corruption has settled over the land, and permeated the very foundations of reality itself, then shall the Lord of All rise from the rot and ruin, spread his arms wide to reclaim all his dutiful children...”
@WinterWizard7
@WinterWizard7 3 жыл бұрын
Hail the dark Father of Plagues. 🧙‍♂️
@wiilov
@wiilov 3 жыл бұрын
Ideologically, I prefer Tzeentch, as change is nature, and he genuinely just wants to keep the universe spinning. Comfortably, Nurgle will undoubtedly treat the individual best, and is least likely to cause unnecessary suffering...ironically. Respectfully, Khorne is perhaps the most honest and straight forward of the "Dark Gods". Honor, and all that. Slaanesh never should've been made.
@cultist1762
@cultist1762 3 жыл бұрын
I think what would help the Cult Legions when they finally make the last 2 is to do away with the Daemon Codex and do what AoS did and just merge the followers and the daemons like they used to in older editions of 40k.
@scrubsrc4084
@scrubsrc4084 3 жыл бұрын
The 4 gods of chaos, reveal steams, limited releases, pre orders and constant faq
@Grubnar
@Grubnar 3 жыл бұрын
I would swap out "constant FAQ" for "Codex Creep" ... for without it you wouldn't need the constant FAQ!
@jonathanjoemama4885
@jonathanjoemama4885 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect video. Been wondering this. Wanted to make a chaos army once their codex is out.
@egnaroelprup
@egnaroelprup 3 жыл бұрын
Hope you're ready to wait a long time. I'd be surprised if anything other than the basic (and probably underwhelming) csm codex comes out anytime soon.
@DarthAxolotl
@DarthAxolotl 3 жыл бұрын
@@egnaroelprup id guess TS will be out and a few months later we'll get a CSM codex which as you said will be mediocre compared to the SM codex
@olufolarinoduntan9097
@olufolarinoduntan9097 2 жыл бұрын
Khorne and Tzeentch, the two most powerful and badass Chaos gods
@RockSplitter
@RockSplitter 3 жыл бұрын
Well, I have about 50 unpainted pink horrors in front on me as I watch this. Team Tzeentch, hooya!
@ssreeser95
@ssreeser95 3 жыл бұрын
Is it worth doing a video on all the Legions that follow Chaos Undivided?
@josephskiles
@josephskiles 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@tristan5952
@tristan5952 3 жыл бұрын
The best one is Malal
@Zekrom249
@Zekrom249 3 жыл бұрын
He doesn't exist.
@richmcgee434
@richmcgee434 3 жыл бұрын
Accurate. Someday he'll stop drinking in the bar with the Squats and Fimir. The bouncer threw the jokaero out years ago and a couple of Zoats actually managed to stagger out under their own power recently. There's hope for last call yet.
@xzeke666x
@xzeke666x 2 жыл бұрын
i have given myself to khorne, blood for the bloodgod and skulls for the skull throne
@chrismoseley4828
@chrismoseley4828 3 жыл бұрын
Khorne, he's the only being with honor. Everybody else shady af
@ChazWalser
@ChazWalser 2 жыл бұрын
When I played Chaos and Conquest, almost every time I opened a Warlord Chest, the Favours wound up belonging to one of Nurgle’s followers. So in the Term “You Don’t Choose the Chaos God, the Chaos God Chooses You.” By believing that statement I realized Grandpappy Nurgle chose me, and that was who I wanted to serve
@matthias8368
@matthias8368 3 жыл бұрын
Give me Emperor Children Terminators with their power Spears.
@bionicgeekgrrl
@bionicgeekgrrl 3 жыл бұрын
And dreadnoughts and vehicles with sonic weapons as a option
@Writh811
@Writh811 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I want to make an army for all 8 forces. I have Thousand Sons and Deathguard, my wife liked the Sons and I liked the Deathguard. I need to flesh those forces out a bit before I start dipping heavily into a more robust couple of demon armies. I'm holding out hope that the Emperor's Children or World Eaters will get some kind of range and codex so I'll probably just focus on the demon side of them. Maybe it is just me I feel like one of them is coming soon.
@riolufan2249
@riolufan2249 3 жыл бұрын
*giggles in Grey Knights*
@warlordwurzoggwigsplittaht2933
@warlordwurzoggwigsplittaht2933 3 жыл бұрын
Tzeentch for my alpha legion. I think it fits with the fluff. I like how the alpha legion is a covert kinda army,always ambushing and mysterious and I think if they were to have an allegiance with a chaos God it would be the lord of change. Always keeping you guessing.
@blackgobbogaming4236
@blackgobbogaming4236 3 жыл бұрын
The Alpha legion is a better fit for Tzeentch than the Thousand Sons in my opinion.
@lynnusuk2092
@lynnusuk2092 3 жыл бұрын
@@blackgobbogaming4236 what if they are his legion, thousand sons is just a front to fool on lookers. It does fit
@josiahstreetman8806
@josiahstreetman8806 2 жыл бұрын
It's my head Cannon that Tzeench is just cool enough to get two legions, and he could actually win the great game, but his goal isn't to win, it's to play, so he holds back all the time. Tzeench has *already won* because the Galaxy is exactly where he wants it.
@jimbobcannonball4216
@jimbobcannonball4216 3 жыл бұрын
I’m using this to make an apocalypse sized chaos soup
@davidneo3940
@davidneo3940 3 жыл бұрын
B--But what about Malal/Malice? :[ Don't abandon him! He wouldn't abandon you, either!
@Imatuhl
@Imatuhl 3 жыл бұрын
Khorne was also the god of Technology, Battle and Honor but those aspects seem to have been forgotten.
@CAMSLAYER13
@CAMSLAYER13 3 жыл бұрын
Well the chaos gods represent the world so as things devolve into more war and death then the gods will also change to be more violent and single minded
@TuShan18
@TuShan18 3 жыл бұрын
Deathguard is my favorite playstyle. I like the slow moving tanky style army. However, Tzeentch has the coolest aesthetics in demons and thousand sons. I think he has more style than slaanesh.
@TuShan18
@TuShan18 2 жыл бұрын
@That British Guy that’s also why I love salamanders as well. Just walk forward with a bunch of aggressors and terminators and melt everything in sight.
@gregsmw
@gregsmw 3 жыл бұрын
i used to be all in on khorne, but i have since grown to actually kind of dislike the pure "angry demon" look and much more appreciate the wierdness of slaanesh and tzeentch (im a fan of nurgle in lore but i just dont like the bloated rotted look of his minis) i like a more "chaos undivided" army though, i really dont like the different chaos legions being split off into their own codicies and wish they were done like the standard SM, where its 1 big codex for the lot of them and smaller supliments for the more specific god armies, like atm there is literally no point at all in doing a nurgle CSM army because you get absolutly nothing that DG dont so all the other nurgle legions are completly shafted i like me a combinations of the servents of chaos, chaos is supposed to be exactly that, chaotic, why would they stick to neat regiments and armies, "single faction" armies make no sense for chaos, let me bring noise marines next to lords of change, its chaos for chaos' sake
@ReubenAotearoa_
@ReubenAotearoa_ 3 жыл бұрын
Having Death Guard and World Eaters and Fallen (you owe us after that travesty of a White Dwarf!) as supplementary codexes to the CSM codex would also sell more Codexes. That’s what GW is into, isn’t it?
@MarkusJackDijkgraaf
@MarkusJackDijkgraaf 3 жыл бұрын
The gods fight more amongst themselves than against mortals. That's why mono-God armies make more sense
@gregsmw
@gregsmw 3 жыл бұрын
​@@MarkusJackDijkgraaf CSM have more "undivided" chapters then monogod ones, a LOT more undivided armies and forces are MUCH more common in lore (and tend to be stronger as well) then monogod ones the chaos gods fight each other a LOT yes, but they also work together a LOT as well (arguably more then they fight each other) the biggest threat to the imperium out of the chaos armies is the black legion, the black legion worships chaos undivided (as do the word bearers who are the MOST chaos worshiping of the chaos worshiping factions) and there are plenty of monogod chapters that ARENT the big 4 for example the "scourged" are a tzeentch chapter that isnt kSons/rubric, meaning the only way to play them is as standard CSM but you lose a bunch of tzeentch units available to the ksons because of their codex being seperated the way it is monogod armies make sense but doing monogod armies to the detriment of undivided armies, or not even ALLOWING undivided armies, makes NO sense at all things like Dgaurd, Ksons and emps children should 100% be suplements to a larger CSM codex and not their own seperate ones
@MarkusJackDijkgraaf
@MarkusJackDijkgraaf 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregsmw In my view, because of the timeless nature of the warp, conflict between the gods is a lot more common than cooperation. The CSM are more of an anomaly in this, because the remnants of their humanity lends itself to cooperation (in case of BL). Chaos undivided in case of WB is it's own thing - a kind of utopic view on their gods. But that shouldn't deter anyone from building their armies as they like - I am strongly against using lore reasons to hamper the fun of a player. And as you have said, the gods can and do work together.
@reecelongden3500
@reecelongden3500 3 жыл бұрын
@@gregsmw The four Cult Legions should absolutely be their own separate codices. It's base CSM that is being handled wrong. A base CSM army should, for example, be able to take limited amounts of Cult units again. But there absolutely should be things that are locked behind a "you must commit to this Legion" wall, such as the Scarab Occult for the TSons or the Plaguecrawler for the DGuard. If you want to run a Nurgle-themed CSM army, either run CSM and ally in DGuard, or run DGuard and ally in CSM depending on the proportion of Nurgle you want. If Blood Angels are different enough from basic Space Marines to have their own codex, the Cult Legions are absolutely different enough from basic CSM to have theirs.
@JL-tw4uj
@JL-tw4uj 3 жыл бұрын
Slaanesh: I like you and I want you, now we can do this the easy way or we can do this the hard way, the choice is yours
@cephalonbob15
@cephalonbob15 3 жыл бұрын
Reevs chainaxe with malicious intent
@clockworkpanda8
@clockworkpanda8 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao tom is going chaos eh?
@timbot87
@timbot87 3 жыл бұрын
Nurgle is not just about death decay rot and pestilence. If you read any of their lore you'll learn they're also about life and rebirth. Nurgle rots so life can begin, it's literally the reason for the garden of nurgle a forever cycle of rot to death to rebirth or giving one's own for another life to begin (mostly insects) if you look at the units their all gardeners. Flesh mowers, bearers are like bees and pollinate their plaguemarines literally tend the garden of nurgle during times of rest. I always joke that I'm just a farmer while play nurgle
@willfarthing4699
@willfarthing4699 3 жыл бұрын
Malice obviously! There is no better chaos god to choose for narrative games.
@stephenbarrett8861
@stephenbarrett8861 3 жыл бұрын
The Man Emperor of Mankind!
@smeekma
@smeekma 3 жыл бұрын
Always love to see videos on chaos and chaos space marines. Thanks for the great vid!
@thomasalegredelasoujeole9998
@thomasalegredelasoujeole9998 3 жыл бұрын
Khorne and slaanesh have been a little left behind in the past years ; hope they get an update soon. Especially on their legionnaires. Noise marines anyone ?
@bionicgeekgrrl
@bionicgeekgrrl 3 жыл бұрын
It'll happen eventually. Though even if they just gave us a plastic upgrade sprue like the imperial guard just got it'd be a start.
@olufolarinoduntan9097
@olufolarinoduntan9097 2 жыл бұрын
Khorne is the best, because he's who channels Sauron, Diablo, and the Cyberdemon the most to me
@MLaak86
@MLaak86 3 жыл бұрын
I'd pry go with the Changer of Ways... though Grandpapa Nurgle has a morbid fascination.
@i_dont_have_a_name
@i_dont_have_a_name 3 жыл бұрын
Always papa Nurgle , Nurgle is love Nurgle is life remember this
@isaacfoley6728
@isaacfoley6728 3 жыл бұрын
I know im tzeentch because my choices on what to play is always shifting
@notjustanother3191
@notjustanother3191 3 жыл бұрын
the bullet points for Khorne make it seem almost sureal.
@eneaceribelli8023
@eneaceribelli8023 3 жыл бұрын
I know that the anew lore makes the god inherently evil, yet it would have been a nice touch to add that the chaos gods represent good parts, like khorne is honor, tzeentch is changing for the better, nurgle represent tranquility and slaneesh represent happiness. It made them more interesting than they are now IMHO
@Stepcloserr
@Stepcloserr 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know where everyone keeps getting "honor" and khorne together. He wants you dead he doesn't care don't get a good fight to the death and honor mixed up his minions kill men women and children all the same
@Howesterino
@Howesterino 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stepcloserr I believe the honor bit comes from a few things: One part of it comes from his distaste in Tzeentch cunning and trickery, so any of that is out the window and leaves Khorne followers with a limited approach: just charge in and beat the crap out of everything, no extra thought required. IIRC in 6th edition, there was an excerpt in one of the books that he apparently hates those that kill those that are weaker such as children and doesn't accept those skulls. So yes he does represent honor, its just a very twisted version of it and I'm bound to believe that that 6th edition bit gives way at some point in an invasion so that all Khorne-affilated troops will just murder everything anyway after all the stronger opponents are dead.
@eneaceribelli8023
@eneaceribelli8023 3 жыл бұрын
@@Stepcloserr I can't really explain because I'm kinda new to the hobby but I got these reading through wikis and forums and watching videos
@muninrob
@muninrob 3 жыл бұрын
Khorne isn't honor, he's Final Justice. Nurgle isn't tranquility, he's birth and creation. Dead on for Tzeench (things can't get better without change), and Slaneesh.
@Kalianos88
@Kalianos88 3 жыл бұрын
Slowly going chaos undivided. Wouldn't mind some World Eaters or Emperor's Children alongside my Thousand Sons. Nurgle can go back to hiding behind his metaphorical couch from the Emperor.
@davidr8824
@davidr8824 3 жыл бұрын
I own a ton of Daemons of Slaanesh. They are really fun to play. When that army pops off and does what it is supposed to do, it can make you feel invincible. It doesn't always happen, because they can be shot up like swiss cheese. But the Keeper, Daemon Prince, and other Slaaneshy tricks are a real good time.
@noriciah
@noriciah 3 жыл бұрын
I choose them all, though papa nurgle does have a special place in my rotten bloated heart
@tzeechgodofchange3197
@tzeechgodofchange3197 3 жыл бұрын
I will give you the ability to find out if anyone you want hates you if you start to like me more
@clockworkpanda8
@clockworkpanda8 3 жыл бұрын
Slaneesh followers have the most fun if they like it or not, but i would go tzeench even tho im not into birbs, mostly becuase "why be any one thing when you can be everything"
@jacobgale4792
@jacobgale4792 3 жыл бұрын
Blood for the blood god… I guess….Sadge I hope Khorne Daemons get better . Mono-Khorne is arguably the WORST army in the game rn (yes worse than Tau!)
@Stepcloserr
@Stepcloserr 3 жыл бұрын
I play mono khorne they aren't that bad. I beat top tier armies regularly. The real problem is we have bad matchups and those bad match ups are BAD (fall back and shoot, good overwatch, extremely fast units, mass anti horde)
@filwilliamson9149
@filwilliamson9149 3 жыл бұрын
Wait so is mono khorne just Khornate daemons or is it Khornate daemons with world eaters/CSM?
@jacobgale4792
@jacobgale4792 3 жыл бұрын
Just Daemons of Khorne
@Shionkitsa
@Shionkitsa 3 жыл бұрын
Iron Warriors player here, so I'm Chaos Undivided. Although... I've got a LOT of Slaanesh daemons thanks to a friend starting the army then going "Eh, here." basically XD
@ultrasimp2489
@ultrasimp2489 3 жыл бұрын
Just started a khorne daemon army. I'm gonna get stomped, but man I just need those skulls
@benjaminfugate4031
@benjaminfugate4031 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Tzeentch Demons. Got two Killer Chickens of Doom named Bwak Bwak (who is magnetized if I want to run Kairos) and BaGawk. My army is an eyesore of color,but in a good way...according to one of my friends/opponents (a Nurgle player)
@timm2428
@timm2428 3 жыл бұрын
so enjoyed this channel when it was tiny and I first stumbled across it,,,,now,,,,sighs and gently users auspex onto a pile of kindling.
@xshadowx32hd66
@xshadowx32hd66 3 жыл бұрын
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
@aguyontheinternet4526
@aguyontheinternet4526 3 жыл бұрын
From my personal experience running khorne demons they need to hit harder then they currently do as its not enough to make up for their lack of tankiness
@TheNecross117
@TheNecross117 2 жыл бұрын
I like to go undivided, particularly with the new Be'lakor model :D
@wolf40k
@wolf40k 3 жыл бұрын
Flesh Hounds have been around forever, the plastic ones are new, but I have metal ones that are at least 20 years old
@NK-wl6bl
@NK-wl6bl 3 жыл бұрын
Nurgle because....because!
@ReiloJenkins
@ReiloJenkins 3 жыл бұрын
Grandfather nurgle is our lord and saviour
@setaripantheon8801
@setaripantheon8801 3 жыл бұрын
Emperors Children with Fabius Bile
@kortusofkhorne9783
@kortusofkhorne9783 2 жыл бұрын
For Khorne
@Leonismychild
@Leonismychild Жыл бұрын
I like birds that is the reason i play tzeentch my goal is play at a tournament with a horror army or go for a full daemon only army right now i use a few daemons but mostly the thousand sons
@balistak6225
@balistak6225 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video!! Any chance you’ll cover some of the specialty games for 40k? I’m getting into Adeptus Titanicus and would love your insight :)
@Swoozman
@Swoozman 3 жыл бұрын
I have only ever considered Khorne and only ever will consider Khorne. Even if I dont like the Bloodletter models, that won't stop me. My current plan is to use Bladegeist Revenants from AoS and Khorne them up a bit, paint the masks bronze, ect.
@jasonfeagans3456
@jasonfeagans3456 2 жыл бұрын
My chaos army is Word Bearers. I get ALL the gods!
@crymric
@crymric 3 жыл бұрын
My poor gellerpox, they werent even mentioned :(
@AtilaCXL
@AtilaCXL 3 жыл бұрын
Slaanesh, because they have the best third party models!
@flatheadgg2443
@flatheadgg2443 3 жыл бұрын
now that's the spirit!! lml
@real-lomas-chenko
@real-lomas-chenko 3 жыл бұрын
Love that emperors children terminator, not seen it before. Is it horus heresy anybody?
@evileyeball
@evileyeball 3 жыл бұрын
I had a thousand sons army from 2004-Present but last time I played it was 6th ed My FAVORITE FAVORITE FAVORITE RULES FOR THEM Were Codex Chaos Soace Marined 3.5. Two wounds on every guy, 4+ Inv Saves and you can Pay +42 points per man to turn any rubric squad into a rubric terminator... Yes We didn't have Inferno Bolts, Yes we didn't have special or heavy weapons in our squads, Yes we didn't have Tzangors but who cares We liked it.
@Walkerxy
@Walkerxy 3 жыл бұрын
Rules wise nurgle is best, but man I'm a khorne worshipper at heart
@thepag1358
@thepag1358 3 жыл бұрын
One day, one day I will get updated Noise marines and bezerkers. I might be too old and infirm to put them together but that day will come. And dare to hope a sonic dreadnought, I cant get the forge world one without selling a kidney so i have to hope Slaanesh/GW hears my prayers.
@garretwoeller7669
@garretwoeller7669 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a tier list of the undivided CSM legions.
@deboozombie23
@deboozombie23 3 жыл бұрын
The band Iced Earth has unintentionally printed doomrider into my brain with their slightly different named song - I need him back for the slaanesh armies.
@RSBurgener
@RSBurgener 3 жыл бұрын
I think Khorne needs a sophisticated, intelligent character, a connoisseur of dueling, martial honor and tactics. Khorne has the stigma of being big, dumb killing machines. But I see the prospect of having a really scary philosopher warrior who could lay bare the hypocrisy of the Imperium. I'd play that guy!
@AGS363
@AGS363 3 жыл бұрын
"....a connoisseur of dueling, martial honor and tactics." That sounds slaneeshi to me. But you are right, Khorne should have a few more "High-Functioning" followers like the Bloodpakt.
@arachnofiend2859
@arachnofiend2859 3 жыл бұрын
The person you are describing would worship Slaanesh lol
@RSBurgener
@RSBurgener 3 жыл бұрын
@@AGS363 you know, I thought about that later on, I agree. I think warhammer has a "chaos problem". Not only have they not done an adequate update for the faction, but there's a tone issue as well, across all of 40k. The Horus Heresy has a great vibe of gritty realism. When chaos comes along, or even the Blood Angels in some cases, 40k gets an Animated Series kind of vibe that's at odds with the intense character stuff you see in other places in the novels. Chaos Daemons are the most cartoonish of all. A lot if models are kinda cutesy and don't have the sense of terror about them. Khorne feels like a caricature when it should be complex and menacing.
@muninrob
@muninrob 3 жыл бұрын
Sophisticated & intelligent, sure. It's all about making the blood flow - let the Berserkers wade in rivers and present Khorne with the skulls of loyalist marines. You're busy making sure oceans of blood are spilled, and trying to figure out how to keep Skulltaker's skull from de-materializing, so you can present THAT skull to Khorne - even if you do have to get one of Tzeench's wussies to help preserve it. (Hannibal Lector + Nietze + a patient vengeful bloodlust that can NEVER be sated)
@RSBurgener
@RSBurgener 3 жыл бұрын
@@muninrob yeah, that's good stuff, man! I hope the 40k streaming content gets to delve into these things. I'd love to see them flesh out Khorne followers the way they did with the plague marines in The Lords of Silence. They took it from something that was a bit two dimensional and really got into the psychology of people going through it. It's fascinating. That's what I really love about 40k. You get a bit of that in the Betrayer novel with Angron. It just stops right after he achieves Daemonhood. Kharne has some more complexity, but it's more of an origin story than a day in the life of a berserker. If anything, it's Warsmith Kroeger of the Iron Warriors who takes us into the Khorne experience.
@sonk6154
@sonk6154 3 жыл бұрын
My stone thousand sons aren't very good but my death guard are Op!
@TheRabbit68
@TheRabbit68 3 жыл бұрын
Death Guard player here but I already came to terms with when there's a full World Eaters release I'm making it rain (blood) and might even buy the supplemental rules that'll come out within a month of the codex release.
@JwayT
@JwayT 2 жыл бұрын
Damn those berzerkers are OOOOLLLDDDD!!!
@nicholashurst780
@nicholashurst780 2 жыл бұрын
You know I would just like to call attention to the fact that the chaos gods are also the gods of the good aspects of their various domains. Khorne is also the god of the righteous defending their home from invasion, nergal is also the god of rejuvenation and fertility Etc
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