Wired flex, but okay

"Shifter" uses a Halfbar and clings to a selfie stick for better control.

That is how I ride also. Hands in my coat pockets. Rides best.

Keeps you nice and upright that way, until you fall off!! :)

@@terry2346 the Dutch know how to ride. 😁

Oddly I don't remember newbies having trouble with cruiser bars nack when they were the only kind (except the ape hangers on stingrays). Personally I think the speed thing is ridiculous, I can crouch down out of the windstream on cruisers as any of the others maybe not as comfortably as the rams horn drop types but they are uncomfortable anyway and with cruisers I can sit up where they are stuck with crouching like they are in a race to everywhere.

I find that looking over my shoulder in upright position somehow strains my neck very uncomfortably; it is much easier with significant forward tilt when my chin goes towards my shoulder. So lower posture actually gives me somewhat better visibility because looking over my shoulder is comfortable.

@@NoIce33 I feel like that's a moot point. You can easily let go of your left hand and turn your back for full visibility.

@@kekddd Er, now I can turn my head without letting go of anything and I have very good visibility. I actually do have visibility problem when I ride a city bike that puts the rider to pretty much vertical posture; I have much better idea of my surroundings on my hybrid where the bar is slightly lower than the seat. I guess a full butt-up position would become a problem in terms of visibility, but just a significant forward tilt is very comfortable in all aspects.

I am th worldleader &king of kings in all adpect bicycles. Lol no i dont have videos. I explain it all HERE: (But people wont buy it) Handlebars, bikes ergonomics engineered by Lucifer. He HATES free energy. 95% humans ars Lucifers kids, tares. They are not humans. They subscribe, perpetuate false reality stupidity in all things. They are cmputer cntrolled hive mind. But they dont know that. Handlebar must be 29 or 30" 4average adult 5'9" 2 reasons. A front basket HANGING BY STRAPS FROM BARS is how 2transport up2 70lbs. Bicycles are MADE 2COMMUTE STRAIGHT LINE &CARRY THINGS. PERIOD &safety, stability handling. Those are your parameters. Revolve around those. Period. Bars wider then shoulders ONLY. 2 reasons. This forms a stable TRIANGLE required4 stability handling especially once u add weight front basket. Secondly, wide bars allow u carry wide objects like 5 2x4 wood resting on bars strapped 2waist. U can also carry things on long bars such as 5gallon buckets bar ends. Wide bar DRAMMATICALLY improve stability. As does LOWERING LOWERING LOWERING thseat. U must use heaviest ULTRA STRONG STEM. Bicyclists can not be taught. Bcuz they are pharisees. Know it alls. Regarding seat height. Most humans are NOT HUMANS. They are poisonous cmputer programs. Seat height. Lol ypur knees can bend pedaling &efficientcy functions just fine low seat. Lol satan teaches place head 6 feet from pavement, give tiny bars so now u a sky scraper &taller they are thmore easily they fall. Lol. I taught people how 2sit on bike 1980"s. Graeme Obree built bike matching my specs &30 guys broke hour record using my specs. Lol my seat is slammed down as LOW AS I CAN GET IT. This raises your bars essentially. So u NOT bent over but LOWER TO THGROUND 4ridiculous STABILITY &AERODYNAMICS. U will realize 1.5 mph at 21mph top speed electric motor as such even tho u upright but head several inch lower.. WIDE BARZ LOW SEAT, SEAT FORWARD, BARS IN CLOSE 2U PERIOD. Worlds best basic e bike bicycle design is used by me exclusively. This will not see production &not1 person will ask 2c it in comments. Wide would they? They are pharisee tares. Computer animations. Know it alls. Fact. All E bikes are absolutely deploreable contraptions built by Lucifer boys. All manufacturimg &non humans are controlled by Satans BEAST cmputer. That computer revolves around me as its epicentre arch enemy. Meanwhile, all thworlds problems can be solved in thgarden. And 4godsakes sell your stable of 230 horses.

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it took me 5 mins to get it

Need to improve ya rhyme schemes

Your city too, huh? Houston is the worst! In a split second I have to choose between tore-up sidewalk, pot hole street, or congested lanes.

@@OanhSchlesinger Not practical for speed at all, but I find great joy in urban riding a hard tail mountain bike because of this. I'm in San Antonio and we're not a bike friendly city as well, so if I can't ride a neighborhood parallel to a busy street, I tend to ride sidewalks for safety, which I don't like to do. My single speed is great because it's quick and simple. The mountain bike is slower, but handles potholes, speed bumps and jumps in and off curbs so easily. Both of them have riser/flat bars for control. I even took a pair of my mountain bike bars (720mm wide) and put them on my single speed for much better control. I don't do drops. Bullhorns are fun but twitchy. Never tried pursuit bars. I have a set of cruisers and it's an adjustment, they're 660mm wide, but I feel less in control because of the sweep on them. Would be good for hybrid bikes I think.

I have a flat bar Bianchi C Sport 1 and seems to be a good commuter bike. I’ve thought about buying a drop bar attachment to make the bike look a bit cooler and for rides where I want to use the drops.

I am trying to imagine a straight-away on my commute where I could get tucked in and really crank up to full speed. But going fast seems like it would immediately lead to catching a pothole that I was going too fast to notice/avoid and crushing my skull. I'm sure there are better maintained places where you can actually get up to speed safely, but the Netherlands has pretty strict immigration rules so I probably won't live there. :)

Yea I own a cruiser style and the different hand position is comfortable but doesn’t feel like I’d be able to brace as well if I hit something

The Dutch/Danes/Swedes/Germans all go for the cruiser bars. The most comfortable and if you are just riding A-B it's the only way to go. Summer and winter my now twenty-year-old Batavus (look them up on the Dutch or Danish websites, different bikes for different markets) is still the bike of choice. A comfy Brookes saddle, 7 internal gears, ride like a gentleman!

@@robinarnold9857 Just note that it really only works for short-distance and is used in those countries because they ride short distances and have roads made for cycling. The only other place it's really used is West Coast America. Just because those European nations do that, it doesn't mean it works in America, England, or Chile, either for the roads, terrain/slope/surfaces, style of riding, or distances. Cruiser bars are some of the worst bars for most types of riding in most nations, and are the lowest. I would suggest drops or riser bars for pretty much everybody/every nation, depending on a few factors. Note that in this video, the drops won the test easily.

@@TheClassicWorld Thanks for the advice sunshine, I guess I'll just keep riding those short distances here in Denmark. Sure you know more about it.

@@TheClassicWorld i can't lie the cruiser is better for all round use as well as e bike application too. There is a reason the majority of bikes currently world wide use cruiser bars. Plus I am from England and have used all bar types and cruiser are my favourite by far especially being a young man (22) who's occupation is a bicycle courier.

@@TheClassicWorld I sometimes will ride 40-50 km with my Dutch bike. The idea these only work on short trips is pure propaganda! Much like how many sporty types LOVE to claim Dutch bikes can't work in hilly areas, when I live in one of the most hilly large cities in North America and my 60kg Dutch bike is just fine.

like riding behind a passing 18 wheeler? yea me too

Best 'Handelbars'? I would probably vote for the opening bars of The Messiah. :•)

Interesting, I am planning to buy one & your opinion will help me in choosing, thanks 👍

The secret is getting a bike with drop bars one size or even two sizes down (smaller than your usual). That way the reach is shorter and you can be a bit upright at times and be aerodynamic at times. If you follow the suggested size then there’s no chance for you to be a bit upright as bikes with flat bars are meant for speed; hence intended to be leaning forward. Works well with me.

An upright riding position makes my back hurt, too. My guess is maybe sitting upright means all the bumps just go straight up my spine, with no give?

I too find the drops are most comfortable for riding to work - 4 miles, on road in traffic mostly designated bike lanes.

Came here to say this.

He really thought we wouldn't notice

But is he saying the wrong thing or is he writing it wrong?

Agree, even more so if you ride an ebike.

My commute includes a strode, railroad tracks, hills, lots of tree root bumps in the trail, etc. Hands free would get me killed in record time.

I don't feel confortable with any hand position but one on my Drop bars, because I can't reach the breaks

@@georgplaz They make smaller versions of the shifters, my girlfriend has them on her Specialized Roubaix

Yep. It's windy in Seattle and it makes a big difference being able to lean down. Makes the commute more comfortable and suck less.

Exactly! I care less about speed than effort - and on a windy day im so glad to have deep track bars

Not just upright but have control chracteristics of riser and flat bars and come high in practical cos you have so much space to attach stuff to the bars and the cross bar. Alos they will break like all the other bars haha.

BMX or Ape Hangers - (Schwinn Sting-Ray)

Same, 1st mod on my road bike, like I am upset that he dont talk about them.

bmx bars is the way to go

That's a bloody awesome idea...I think that this is what I have been looking for...thanks for the comment.

Drops win in a city dwelling

@@bait3027 commuters win on urban cycling. That's why most bikes in the Netherlands have commuter handlebars and are commuter bikes. Had to ride a bicycle to go to-and-from work with a laptop on my backpack. Used a commuter where i could strap my bag onto the "back seat" instead of carrying it in my back. It was a lot better than using a conventional road bike.

@@sepg5084 are you referring to “risers” as “commuters”?

@@bait3027 no, they look more like the bullhorn bars in reverse... I guess they fall into the cruise category here; some one in the comments referred to them as 'Dutch bars' 😁

Just want to note that, objectively speaking, drops are the worst of all bars on your hands when in the drops, but the hoods are the best, along with riser that are slightly curved for better position.

yes this! ^

I used to have a flat bar with bar ends, and on a whim I added bar ends to the bar ends, making a sort of crash cage for my hands. Really saved my hands when i hit some ice and slid off the road. The left side of my handlebars hooked the corner of a building. Bar bent, but they saved my fingers from being crushed.

@@christophermorin9036 Yo dawg....

What's a bar end?

@@cubeofcheese5574 It's a handle you mount on the outer side of your grip, thus the end of your bar.

Control is very important, I agree. A lot of it depends on your commute. If you're darting in and out of traffic and negotiating tight corners around moving vehicles, that's one thing to consider. If you're mostly riding on pathways or bike lanes, then I put comfort and practicality at the top of the list. Thanks for the great comment.

What type of urban jungle really matters too I think. Cities with lots of winding roads can be unpredictable because you can’t always see that far ahead of you.

Visibility is key

You have the best kind, unless your a racer, why would you switch?

There are other channels that somehow think using road bikes with drop bars are better for commuting than the actual commuter bikes (that they never even showed.)GCN - if you’re still wondering.

I also love having a quill stem, so I can change my mind with a twist of the allen key.

Give it some time and let us know how things go.

That's horrific. Glad it works for you though...

What do you prefer about the bull horns ?

@@771shadowolf I can gain more traction off the start or at a stop. There's 3 ways to position yourhands so more then 2 options. Style does matter lol. I ride Fixation bullhorns black set.

Just want to say that I get lower back problems, but find that I have no problem with different height bars - even aero bars are okay. Back problems are completely individual!

Flat with aerobar. Aerobar allows me to rest on my arm.

@@othmanskn the author makes some mockery on aero... i ve seen bike packing travellers going far... continental distances, using aero. it improves biomechanics also, not only aerodynamics.

Agree. Please review them and update this good video ヽ(♡‿♡)ノ

Mark Beaumont broke the world record of travelling around the world with these handlebars back in 2004 on a £2,500 bike (£3,800 in 2019). It was a touring type bike for extremely long distances, of course, and custom.

Cast into shape bars. 2 piece bars. The flag pole. The handgrips that make motor sounds. CB radio mounts so you can contact the truck drivers. How are you going to mount the 6 mirrors on those things?

Change your stem to a higher sloped one for $40

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WOW! Your experience sounds amazing! Q: how do you deal with thieves in doing what you do? Aside from paying "protection money" that is.

@@garypotter5569 That's my biggest fear. Using at least two decent locks including an alarm lock, and covering it whenever I leave it out for longer than 15-20 minutes, has worked so far. It's also worth saying I haven't had to commute to work and leave the bike there all day or anything like that since the pandemic. Most thefts seem to occur in the city proper so I've been doing fine with my local errands in the burbs, although I have avoided a few places with really bad or no bike racks. I think it's partly down to being lucky in where I live. The real market for seasoned bike thieves is in Montreal proper, not in the burbs where 75% of people have garages, so I think we just don't get as many with all the tools out here.

Yep, cruiser bars & an upright comfortable riding position are a really good choice for ebikes. I live in a very hilly, windy area & before getting an ebike wouldn't consider anything but drop bars & a road race frame, but now comfort & visibility are what I need most cos the ebike makes hills & wind irrelevant. Have to say, I absolutely love ebikes!

Yeah, I have 10 inch ape hangers on a bike and they're comfy.

Love those bars, the only drawback for those bars is cost, and they not so good for accessing narrow places. I think there are no perfect bars, but Moloko and jones H are close to perfection.

Planning to change from a loopbar to a bullhorn as I am more comfortable in a forward position. I have a long torso but I am not necessarily tall so Im thibking between buying a forward attachment for my loopbar so I could rest on it or just buying a Bullhorn.

My breaks and shift levers are standard Ltwoo ones and dont have budget to change it for now but might do so in the next few months so curious of your thoughts and experience in your setup:>

Glad you enjoyed it!

Wait, you put attachments on your aero attachments? That's... genius, assuming it works as well as you implied. I've never had aeros but I'll have to think about it now, haha

Remember Netherlands is very flat, and their city bikes are designed with that in mind.

But having said that I also prefer swept back bars for position and comfort.

A riser bar can also be rotated forward or backwards to direct sweep.

oh man, did I do that?! Go with the numbers I wrote down -- those are based on my proper assessments.

It only happened once. LOL

I didn’t see a thing!

Thanks for watching!

Drops every day of the week and twice on Sunday

Likewise, in the crouch position with hands on the bottom bar felt kind of awkward at first but cuts through the wind nicely. I had to get used to the control & braking as well. Now it’s easy after much practice.