Which is Better? Air Link or Virtual Desktop?

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Air Link VS Virtual Desktop 2022, Air Link Virtual Desktop comparison, Which is better Air Link or Virtual Desktop, What's the difference between Virtual Desktop and Air Link
For as long as I've owned my Oculus (Meta) Quest 2 I've been using Air Link to play PCVR games wirelessly and I think it's great! I've seen a lot of people online though saying their Air Link experience is less than ideal though. Ok, they say Air Link "sucks" and that another application called Virtual Desktop provided a vastly superior experience. I've always thought Air Link is great but at the same time wanted to give Virtual Desktop a try. Having now used both Air Link and Virtual Desktop I currently feel Air Link provides the better game play experience and in this video I detail why that is. Don't get me wrong Virtual Desktop is a great app. It has some really great features I totally prefer over Air Link's implementation and I talk about what those are in this video as well. I hope you enjoy the video.
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0:00 - "Air Link SUCKS!"
0:27 - Chop, chop, chop! All I do is chop.
1:43 - Am I missing something?
2:49 - I seem to be backwards
3:00 - trust me, I believe you
3:44 - I actually do like Virtual Desktop
5:04 - things could have been different
#quest2, #airlink, #virtualdesktop, #oculus, #meta, #VR, #virtualreality,

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@philthemustardtiger Жыл бұрын

All the stuttering seems related to the "Guardian" system on Quest 2/Quest. Try disabling the guardian system in (settings, system, developer) and give that a try. Worked for me instantly. Also in my opinion Airlink does look clearer and implements sharpness better than VD, but I tend to use VD as it just seems more reliable, easier to connect, and tweaking the settings is a much better experience. Airlink also tends to interfere with audio input/output settings a lot which is frustrating. VD just works as it should every-time.

@Maraksot78 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tip about the Guardian. I'll have to give it a try. Also, thanks for checking out the video. 🙂

@MrCamel254 Жыл бұрын

Is there any way to enable another guardian system? Because playing without guardian seems like a surefire way to get hurt to me

@Ze6rah Жыл бұрын

have a small rug in the center of play area, so when you step off it you know to be cautios

@dontpokethebear3893 Жыл бұрын

Another tip is to reduce the sensitivity of the guardian. I think the stutters only show up when you get a warning from the guardian, so reducing those warnings also helps here.

@silis4645 Жыл бұрын

@@MrCamel254 ik this is mad late and prob wont help you now, but i play with guardian off but i have a small circle matt under my feet to know where i am in of playspace

@minizep Жыл бұрын

Airlink is better when you have a decent router. if you have a crappy router virtual desktop is better. simple

@Infinity777z Жыл бұрын

couldn't have said it any better

@user-mw4jb7yl3l Жыл бұрын

how? I have an rt-ax55 and AirLink works better, but why?

@minizep Жыл бұрын

@@user-mw4jb7yl3l Airlink was built for AX wifi-6 most likely. Virtual desktop was made with everything in mind

@iDeker Жыл бұрын

What about how far away the router is? Would I be better off buying virtual desktop where my router is 20+ metres away?

@minizep Жыл бұрын

@@iDeker If your having problems with airlink then I suggest you give virtual desktop a go if you can not move the router since it does do better with a lower connection speed. But neither of them are going to make packet drop come back so it depends how good the signal is.

@HomeBakedOnYouTube Жыл бұрын

Big thanks! I just saw your "Say Goodbye to Blurry, Muddy Looking Air Link Graphics FOREVER!!!" and followed your directions and will try AirLink again on my Shadow tomorrow, Virtual Desktop has been messing up driver's in my Shadow since June and soon I pay more for a Fall upgrade 😁

@TheJamesShow00 Жыл бұрын

I have tweaked both as much as I can, following all kinds of guides, and aside from changing the saturation and color slightly, of which i am not that interested in, Air link just works better for me, especially as some games still get a bit weird with the controls in virtual desk top for me for some reason. airlink just works, and works great. My pc setup is virtually exactly the same video card, processor and memory.

@xarain Жыл бұрын

Heya, quick question. My main use case is to be able to cast/stream my headset (i.e. what i am seeing) onto my PC screen as part of a product demonstration. Can I use Airlink? Or a Cable? or Would both work? Cable option might be better in-case as the wifi could get tricky. Thank you.

@ericwagstaff2227 Жыл бұрын

I'm in the same boat. I have also noticed weird stutters that in lone echo 2 and HL Alyx. I'm running a 5950x and 3090. For months I just lived with it as I could not find anything that would solve those issues, until I switch to Air Link. Now it's butter smooth in both titles and others while seeming pushing higher with seemly more consistent FPS, according to the overlay. For now I have switch over to using Air Link as my go to for Quest 2 PCVR.

@xalau5270 Жыл бұрын

disable guardian

@RayNoSForever Жыл бұрын

@@xalau5270 that is not safety

@mike8386 Жыл бұрын

@@xalau5270 horrible idea.

@deadlyicecream1 Жыл бұрын

I can't even connect to my pc with air link. I can see my pc in the headset, i can press pair.. but then it wont go any further, everything is updated

@seethransom Жыл бұрын

Going from 8gig to 16gigs took care of my Air Link blues. Im using a 1660ti for video. My buddy has a 1050ti, and it worked much better than I expected. Aircar ran nice at an appropriate framerate.

@brett_musgrove Жыл бұрын

I would recommend everyone who has problems with their router try connecting directly to your PC via your pc's hotspot. I have my PC connected to my router via WiFi6 and I would connect my quest 2 to my PC through the router. It worked fine but if anyone else was doing anything intensive on the network would get stuttering and hitches which wasn't the best experience. Then realized could just connect directly to my PC via hotspot and it's so much better no more lag, better clarity, less latency almost to the point where it feels as if I'm wired directly to my PC with a link cable. I Would definitely recommend to anyone who has a WiFi6 network card and either can't connect their PC to their router with Ethernet or doesn't have a wifi 6 router give this a try.

@cameronrooks3181 4 ай бұрын

I have been trying for weeks to get rid of the lag in airlink and this is the one thing that has actually helped. I can't believe I haven't seen anyone else suggest this.

@Venoxium Жыл бұрын

Airlink is good ***BUT*** every other update I have problems with Airlink. From it not wanting to connect to PC even after restarting the entire Oculus app and sometimes it just refuses after working 1 or 2 times. So I use Virtual Desktop for the most part because so far I've never had issues with it. I also don't have any stuttering in Virtual Desktop.

@Anigeek1246 Жыл бұрын

I never noticed the stuttering problem until I played Rumble VR. My hands kept glitching out and when I tried air link, it stopped.

@s1gma-s1x Жыл бұрын

You had mentioned this on my live stream now I can physically see what you mean! I've been using VDT for so long now, that I had completely forgotten about air link. Well looks like it's time to go change that!

@Maraksot78 Жыл бұрын

Like I said in the video, I think Virtual Desktop is cool too. I like how easy it is to change settings from the Virtual Desktop menu, I like the theater and other environments and I especially like how launching Steam games works. Just click the game thumbnail and Virtual Destop launches Steam VR for you and then the game. It's awesome. It's just the stuttering that puts me off. I really wish I could have fixed it because I like everything else about Virtual Desktop but no matter what settings I used it was always there. My game play with Air Link is super smooth which is the most important element to me.

@IncessantWake Жыл бұрын

I have a rtx 3070, 16gig ram, ryzen 5800x and I shouldn't be getting stuttering on VD either, but I do. I get a MUCH smoother experience using AirLink so I'm going to stick to using that. I still get some stuttering though, maybe it has to do with my bitrate.

@kongvue5160 Жыл бұрын

Before I switched routers VD was much better than airlink. I was using a Tp- link AX3000 AX50. I took the dive because VD had existing stutters on Tp- links AX3000 AX50 series. Picked up the Asus AX1800 and it made the biggest difference. Fixed about 95% of the stutters I was getting. But the craziest thing was Airlink was actually better than VD afterwards. 99% of stutters was gone on airlink. Now I'm wondering if I needed to upgrade my GPU from a 6700xt to a 3080. Either way everything looks perfect and playing games is now very enjoyable without the stutters and graphics are clean and crisp.

@sloth126 7 ай бұрын

I have the to link ax3000 ax50 :(. So basically I'm going to have to get a different router huh. Damn

@8motozero8 Жыл бұрын

So I have an old 1080 and I5 4690k and VD is the best for me. 5g wireless on Airlink would lag, warp, eww. VD has yet to freaking so much as stutter. I'm at 80fps, but I am extremely pleased with VD. I'm really impressed with how much of an upgrade VD feels like.

@ReginaldStaples Жыл бұрын

Good video - I upgraded my home router (An Asus gaming router) and find Airlink to be really solid too. (Similar to the gaming router you are using).

@1nkVr 11 ай бұрын

For some reason, when I play on oculus air link, it keeps showing these random patterns every time I try to look around and it also lags a lot. I watched many tutorials on how to fix it but for some reason those didn't help. If any people can help me with this issue, I will be thankful.

@THEGODDAMNDINOSAUR 8 ай бұрын

I barely got 5ghz internet after 2 years using wired play and airlink has been working fine, things were choppy at first but after just waiting a bit the new internet and my PC played nice lol. Pretty smooth so far no complaints, but I guess I'll try VD just for the sake of something different because those extra feautures do look cool as heck.

@cluthz Жыл бұрын

Seems like bitrate on VD is dropping, on ax you should not have max bandwidth at around 500mbs as it shows in your overlay. Also HEVC should give much better visual fidelity. Got nearly same specs as you, 3080TI and 5800X3d with 32GB 3600mhz cl16.

@Tigerwolf102onYoutube Жыл бұрын

I was using Virtual Desktop but for some reason Steam VR had me capped at 72hz even though I changed the settings in VD and the Oculus Quest 2. I got on Air Link and had 90 fps no problem and it was smoother.

@hioxd Жыл бұрын

For some reason network wise, I run faster and no lag on VD, but when i switch to Airlink it gets super laggy and my connection from my pc wifi drops eventually. I dont know why, but i dont have this issue on VD

@S7Cameron 9 ай бұрын

Can i still play my quest games with air link? Like will they run better with air link and look better?

@Gnome_Dome1 8 ай бұрын

I have a powerful pc and good running quest 2 and my pc is vr ready but airline just always starts glitching out and I get at least under 20 fps and it’s super laggy you know when you load into a game and then it turns into a 2d screen theirs black outline and you turn around and it’s upside down? That’s like when I’m playing but instead their like little stutters so I hope virtual desktop isn’t like that

@AshtonCoolman 3 ай бұрын

I came to this video to understand why you don't use VirtualDesktop. You have a high end system and router but you're still stuttering. I'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE. On the PC streamer app side, do you have 'encrypt local traffic' enabled?

@PetrHipik Жыл бұрын

I have a different problem. If I play via WD, everything looks beautifully smooth, but when I play Skyrim and ride a horse at high speed, the game gets stuck and resumes after 20 seconds, then nothing for a while and then stuck again for 20 seconds. This only happens to me when I'm riding fast on a horse. With Air Link, this has never happened to me, but with Air Link, I have a problem that gameplay is not that smooth, especially in heavy areas like Riverwood or forests...

@rafalves Жыл бұрын

My pc has a 1050ti (nvidia recommends 1060 for vr) and only virtual desktop works properly on it, with default settings. Playing on air link has a severe impact on performance with blurry vision and frame drops. When I bought half life alyx I felt like wasted my money until bought VD, finished the game a few days ago

@-shikajin-4078 Жыл бұрын

Oi Rafael. Qual o setting que vc usou para o VD? Também tenho uma GTX 1050 ti e um Ryzen 5 2400G mas desisti de tentar configurar o Virtual Desktop porque não tenho ideia do que tou fazendo 😅 Obrigado!

@rafalves Жыл бұрын

@@-shikajin-4078 Eu só boto os dois aparelhos no mesmo wi-fi e abro o jogo pelo óculos. Nem precisei mexer nas configurações. Só vê se teu roteador suporta rede 5GHz, pra evitar travamentos.

@slothsarecool Жыл бұрын

I have a similar setup and VD is not even half as good as the airlink for me, it stutters like mad (with a 3090) and has weird warping issues

@alucard0712 Жыл бұрын

air link uses 2-3gb more vram because of gpu encoder. so users with 8gb vram or less experiencing stutters and stalls. with your gpu link and airlink will be better.

@brokensword2621 8 ай бұрын

i always use air link in my quest 2 and i have some problem with it. but now with quest 3 and my wifi 6 pcie card everything is run great.

@gamerbtw5312 Жыл бұрын

My main issue with airlink is that I could never get it down below 50 ms latency. In VD I consistently have 30 ms latency or lower and that helps with my motion sickness. Though I'm not sure if this problem is noticeable by everyone considering how small 20 ms can be. I still find that when its higher it makes a nauseating experience worse.

@user-yv6yw5ze3y Жыл бұрын

VD does not include frame generation latency in its statistics, whereas airlink does, so you can easily see airlink break hundreds of latency under heavy loads, whereas VD does not anyway.

@krazysh01 Жыл бұрын

@@user-yv6yw5ze3y that's literally what the Game latency in Virtual Desktop is. Frame generation time.

@user-yv6yw5ze3y Жыл бұрын

@@krazysh01 Sorry, this is my fault, I noticed that the "delay" refresh rate of VD is much lower than that of "Game", "network", "codec", which makes the "delay" statistics always out of sync, leading me to believe that VD does not include frame generation time in the "delay".

@user-yv6yw5ze3y Жыл бұрын

@@krazysh01 You can find the same "GPU and cpu render time", "Encode, decode, network" in airlink, VD add them up to get "delay", you can also use the same algorithm in airlink, I just tested them on my computer, they give almost the same results at the same frame rate and bit rate, My VD shows the lowest 33MS, and airlink is also 33ms. I know there is a latency timing for airlink, but its calculation content is different from VD, so the results are also different.

@u2blr Жыл бұрын

They calculated differently, so it not a direct comparison. You better feel it by you self don’t compare the number

@Zanbatoss Жыл бұрын

I dont know whats happening with my VD but it lags sooo hard compared to airlink, now I'm just exclusively using airlink

@metalliholic Ай бұрын

I just got the Quest 3 Coming from the Rift S and I was so confused why everyone kept saying airlink sucked and I should get VD. Airlink runs great and looks great. I do however have a wifi 6e router and it’s hard wired to my desktop. I’m just happy I don’t need to spend another $20 😂

@ronbrideau8902 Жыл бұрын

maybe check to see if computer wifi connection is active in task manager performance window, despite ethernet connection, to find low 576 Mbps cause

@MeTaMaNvR 11 ай бұрын

dude have you stumbled across a strange issue on Airlink it displays what appears to be an a X type shape which flashes really fast and this happens about every 15 seconds.. Meta support have no idea.. I haven't changed anything so I have no idea .. Any ideas dude ? You experienced anything like this ? Airlink used to be fine for me. I have WIFI 6 run at full speed, PC connected via ethernet etc.. just this annoying crappy X keeps appearing with a truncated what appears to be airlink interface inside of it .. anyway .. if it continues, I'll throw in the trash as it's literally not fit for purpose at this rate.

@2258mmm Ай бұрын

thanks you saved me money

@krazysh01 Жыл бұрын

With 80Mhz bandwidth you should be seeing 866Mbps or 1200Mbps (AC or AX respectively) for link speed at the top of the performance overlay, the fact that you aren't means you're either too far from your router or there are obstacles giving you a signal quality issues. pretty clearly visible on that overlay that something is wrong with the connection (Airlink has Dynamic Bitrate that drops your bitrate if you have a bad connection, Virtual Desktop's Automatic Bitrate is just a measure at startup measuring max throughput)

@Maraksot78 Жыл бұрын

My typical playspace is 5 or 6 meters away from my router (because that's the room my PC is in) and through a couple walls, but I've set up in the same room as my router also and while throughput is better when I'm closer the overall experience is the same. Virtual Desktop still stutters every few seconds. I did have someone suggest the stuttering may be a result of my guardian being small, which is the case most of the time because I don't have any large rooms I can regularly play in. They suggested turning the guardian sensitivity down or even turning it off completely to fix the stuttering. I have yet to test this theory though. I plan to eventually but have just been very busy and haven't gotten around to it. I will eventually though. 🙂👍🏼

@krazysh01 Жыл бұрын

@@Maraksot78 before turning it off try clearing guardian history, it builds up over time and harms performance in my experience even when always playing in the same space.

@krazysh01 Жыл бұрын

And I noticeably get performance issues even in native games when that occurs

@waderobinson9218 Жыл бұрын

I personally prefer using HEVC encoder on VD which may help your stuttering. I used to get some in VD but ever since a Driver update for my GPU it hasn't happened once and VD > Air link

@carlosangulo3035 7 ай бұрын

I tried playing ps5 through pc than to quest and it was way too laggy

@nepocrates Жыл бұрын

when air link came out airlink performance was horrible. I did notice the text In red matter however I do not have the stutter. thanks for the video.

@johnmann7o2 Жыл бұрын

Need to have at least 866 mbps connection for VD and disable automatic bitrate for it to look better. And try hevc because it looks better. Otherwise, airlink with your current connection, you’ll get bad compression from time to time.

@MobileDecay Жыл бұрын

I have the issues you're having but the image is so much better that it's worth it.

@Blusterbus 4 ай бұрын

I am using the 128GB Quest 3 and have tried using both Air Link and, virtual desktop, in most games, Half Life Alyx being one, I have a better gaming experience with Virtual Desktop. Virtual Desktop runs games buttery smooth for me, while Air Link has a tendency to shake, break, and just act weird in general. Again, this is just my experience on my gaming rig. I have a GIGABYTE B550M AORUS PRO, Ryzen 7 AMD 5800X, RTX3090 TI, a Samsung 980 Pro M.2 SSD, and 32GB of RAM.

@KastriotRamani Жыл бұрын

The only reason I use VD is because sometimes airlink has audio issues.

@mikesvideos66 Жыл бұрын

it seems to be a AMD/NVIDIA issue. and setups. for me virtual desktop gets rid of my stutters. but i have a ryzen 3600 16gb ram and a 5700 xt and get smooth VD but airlink gets that stutter you were talking about. so if you have a AMD GPU its worth the try. remember to set HEVC instead of H264 for AMD

@MrCamel254 Жыл бұрын

It really depends on the games. Saints and Sinners, Contractors and Into the Radius run better on VD for example, Pavlov and Boneworks run better on Airlink. But all games so far look better on VD. Its really strange because for a while i had exactly your experience with Airlink just being superior, but it all went bad with some update and honestly im tired fiddling with the settings.

@Tigerwolf102onYoutube Жыл бұрын

Contractors capped me at 72hz on VD but I could get 90-120 on Air Link so idk what's up with that. I had all my settings set to 90hz

@Horendus123 Жыл бұрын

I’ve extensively tested both solutions. Virtual desktop is my go to because if I Max out the resolution on both virtual desktop provides a sharper. virtual desktop has a much better user interface. Airlink can run some games better, but that’s due to the fact you can use oculus, runtime and open composite versus virtual desktop will only run with steam VR.

@ChrisJones-sw9il 6 ай бұрын

Does application dropped frames in airlink over 800 matter? I have that but can’t notice stutter

@Maraksot78 6 ай бұрын

As far as I can tell, it's a counter that lets you know when the application (i.e the game you're playing) drops frames. This does happen sometimes as you're playing, but most of those dropped frames are during loading screens, so it doesn't negatively affect the experience.

@ChrisJones-sw9il 6 ай бұрын

@@Maraksot78 thank u for the input was worried when I saw the high number only in that part :)

@stylewan Жыл бұрын

My experience is EXACTLY like yours. So, I like Air Link much more.

@9tgd 10 ай бұрын

Virtual desktop i was have laptop and its was laggy in airlink wheb i get virtual desktop its better

@HoshPak Жыл бұрын

I have upgraded to an 3090 Ti, recently. Before that I was using VD as it has been recommended to me by so many people and on my older 1070 this would hold true. Now, on the new GPU I discovered that AirLink is pushing higher FPS than VD pretty much consistently, but that comes at a higher overall CPU overhead since you will now also run the oculus runtime and steamVR simultaneously. Anyway, I'm surprised about the results. Where VD shines however is gameplay of non-VR games in cinematic mode. Input latency and image clarity are superior to whatever steamVR offers with that virtual room while VD also offers a much larger variety of rooms and sceneries. Both have their place in VR, IMHO. There's also those games that run terrible, no matter what hardware you own (looking at you, VRChat...) And there, VD with its synchronous space warp is a godsend. The asynchronous implementation AirLink is using just can't beat that. Bottom line: AirLink wins as long as the FPS target is being hit without ASW. In any low FPS situation (be it low spec hardware or hard to drive games) Virtual Desktop is the way to go.

@No_one_cares_about_Ukraine Жыл бұрын

Air Link provides a sharper and clearer image if set up correctly via ODT. Most don't even know it exists

@user-yv6yw5ze3y Жыл бұрын

我认为它可能是编码格式，我不知道为什么你使用H264编码进行虚拟桌面，你应该知道Airlink默认为HEVC编码，除非你使用amdGPU。

@jusbetter7634 Жыл бұрын

AYO THAT BACKGROUND OUT THE WINDOW IS CHICAGO I KNOW THAT VIEW

@deafblindnoob2748 22 күн бұрын

No matter what I do virtual desktop always runs choppy and looks blurry (compression artifacts) on quest 1. But air link immediately runs super smooth and without compression blur.

@VRixxo123 11 күн бұрын

QUEST 1 ?????

@deafblindnoob2748 11 күн бұрын

@@VRixxo123 yes those still exist, but I recently switched to quest 3

@JayHawk4372 11 ай бұрын

Air link works pretty decently for me. Haven't tried Virtual Desktop yet but I might stick with airlink.

@AstralHobo Жыл бұрын

It's still virtual desktop for me.... Everyone's experience is different especially with VR, but VD takes a lot less work to make look nice and not having to have oculus software running in general is a good day. Virtual desktop over all just feels good and works and has nice control over settings and options, airlink always feels like I'm beta testing a work in progress.

@IamAW Жыл бұрын

You don't need any of the Oculus softwares/services running on your PC at all with VD?

@AstralHobo Жыл бұрын

@Iam AW Correct, virtual desktop eliminates oculus home from having to run at the same time as SteamVR, which is a huge amount of system resources freed up that you can pump into making your VR run better/prettier. Virtual desktop has a lot of really good settings for you to play with to get everything tweaked just right for your system. I run all my VR through my laptop with a rtx3060, and it's consistently a great experience.

@touristhawk Жыл бұрын

@@AstralHobo doesnt the vd still streams the image coming from steamvr? so i think it should be the same as oculus link?

@AstralHobo Жыл бұрын

@Emrah Şahin streaming would be the same either way yes, i was just referring to all the software/resources running. If I use airlink, I have to run the occulus home and steamVR simultaneously before im even in a game. With VD I'm only having to run their lightweight streamer app with steamVR. Granted if most your library is occulus then all is good and you don't touch steamVR in the first place.

@whereta3097 Жыл бұрын

@@AstralHobo I'd also add steamvr is shit and everyone should use open composite to bypass that

@sticksandstones3812 Жыл бұрын

All I know is Virtual Desktop does not stutter on Half Lif Alyx and no matter what I do Air link stutters

@ReeksofChees3 Жыл бұрын

1:46 missed opportunity to make the VD fanboy British. For some reason, everybody that loves VD and hates AirLink is British or Australian.

@TheAcadianGuy Ай бұрын

I have wifi 6e and airlink & virtual desktop work great

@lolcuras 6 ай бұрын

You are using CAT 5E cable. For a better experience, you will need a CAT 6.

@robs3557 Жыл бұрын

Funny I don’t see any stuttering in VD and nothing but stuttering with air link. My computer is running a 13000 cpu, 4090, and wifi6e router. Should be no problem for this computer.

@SirWhisky Жыл бұрын

Air link is great imo

@CannedCam 10 ай бұрын

As a laptop user, oculus app is a horrible cpu hog and ruins performance. VD worked great right out of the box. All of the issues I had while trying to troubleshoot Oculus Airlink were immediately solved upon using VD once.

@liusonda Жыл бұрын

i like air link too

@jujuu1339 Жыл бұрын

Yes it's very weird. My 3070Ti desktop works better with VD and barely works with Airlink. But my 3060M Laptop works leagues better with Airlink compared to VD.

@Seanthefurry 5 ай бұрын

You neee to turn off quest link when using virtual desktop

@mogmo_3727 Жыл бұрын

Bro that is me but with airlink

@Official.DJBIGGUMS Жыл бұрын

Did your forget to change your encoding on Virtual Desktop Streamer ?? 😭😂

@imjustbored2837 Жыл бұрын

Air link is shitty I cannot use it unless no one is using the Internet and I have a good Internet you can trust me on that. But every time I use a link there’s always stuttering visual affects or just bad it’s always laggy and in all it just won’t work

@ChiefTvGangGamer Жыл бұрын

For me airlink wasn’t a good experience because it is laggy and when I try to play no mans sky it keep lagging for me 😊

@amangurung2854 Жыл бұрын

Yes air-link is much much batter even you have low bandwidth Wi-Fi then virtual desktop is bad even i have best Wi-Fi and RTX 3070 ti and so many time I have to update the steam vr and won’t even open.

@AshtonCoolman 3 ай бұрын

Disable 'Encrypt Local Traffic' on the PC's VirtualDesktop Streamer app side or it'll stutter regardless of the settings you try on the Quest 2/3 app side.

@AshtonCoolman 3 ай бұрын

I have a 4090 and 7800X3D. I'm a network engineer that specializes in Wi-Fi deployments and I have a fast 6E mesh network as well. That setting causes stutters regardless of anything else you try.

@somentertainment Жыл бұрын

first mention your gear, its not the same play on RTX4000 series than... i dont know, GTX 1660 super (considering meta say for sure is cover as enough for VR. SO talking about horrible experience, for "minimum gear" virtual desktop works better

@jason002YT Жыл бұрын

Both Virtual Desktop and Air Link open SteamVR to play Half Life Alyx. Once in Half Life Alyx per Air Link using a fixed compression of 30, I went into SteamVR settings and checked the resolution and it was 1708x1724. I then changed the Air Link compression to around 100 and checked the resolution again, it had changed to a lower resolution. So, it seems with Air Link, changing the compression to be less also decreases the resolution. Running Half Life Alyx with Virtual Desktop with compression set to 30 and on the Ultra setting (note this setting alters the resolution of the game being launched) the resolution was 1820x1888. I changed to the compression to around 100 and checked the resolution again and it remained at 1820x1888. Maybe Air link is performing better because the default settings of Air Link run Half Life Alyx at a lower resolution than does Virtual Desktop. For maybe a more accurate comparison, you could try fixing both Air Link and Virtual Desktop to run Half Life Alyx at the same resolution and compression rate, and see how the performance compares. Anyhow, not sure, but I think Air Link is performing better only because of its lower resolution default setting.

@ZeeshanKhamis Жыл бұрын

Big wall of text here but to summarize great video and air link has developed heavily to be better than VD in some areas! I mainly sim race and I noticed that the jitter with text you talked about is what I normally notice with VD SSW. Disabling it of course fixes it but if you are running a demanding title and are not prone to motion sickness because of SSW, you lose out on that benefit. Today I was trying to optimize F1 22: "the best worst VR sim racing game". In short it's not optimized well at all with its outdated OpenVR implementation. I was working to get OpenXR running to remove it's horrible jitter when moving your head in the car and had to "resort" to airlink. Little did I know, air link had improved so much when it came to ASW and ease of use that I might have to consider what I'll use in the future. The experience now is really great with Air Link and I also noticed that text in menus is as sharp as ever with no wobble or jitter from spacewarp interpolation.

@juno3287 Жыл бұрын

Virtual desktops menus and navigation is alot better imo, that's the only thing keeping me from using air link

@dimwis Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Air Link is miles better than Virtual Desktop. I'm with you 100%. Especially when you use Oculus Mirror for recording and streaming your footage. It's got a powerful image stabilizer plus you can widen your FOV for your footage.

@ReeksofChees3 Жыл бұрын

For some reason when I turn around with the stabilizer, the stabilizer just gives up and the mirror starts shaking like it has a sugar rush

@hereweare9011 Жыл бұрын

I can't use the airlink cause I don't have the USB c port on my 9lder msi gaming laptop.

@jamierichards925 Жыл бұрын

what are you on about airlink is wireless.. are you confused with the link cable which has nothing to do with airlink?

@zKaltern Жыл бұрын

Seems to me your wifi signal sucks. It's fluctuating between 500 and 899 Mhz, and even in Airlink you can see HL Alyx is dropping frames - Spacewarp is probably trying to do it's best to fix this. VD can't work if the signal coming in is crap - crap in, crap out. I'm not a VD fanboi, but I think the video is showing the problem clearly - in your case. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qL6ElamLldzOmo0.html shows this clearly

@Maraksot78 Жыл бұрын

My typical playspace is 5 or 6 meters away from my router (because that's the room my PC is in) and through a couple walls and Im pretty sure that's the reason for the wifi signal fluctuation. That being said I've set up in the same room as my router also and while throughput is better when I'm closer the overall experience is the same. Virtual Desktop still stutters every few seconds. I did have someone suggest the stuttering may be a result of my guardian being small, which is the case most of the time because I don't have any large rooms I can regularly play in. They suggested turning the guardian sensitivity down or even turning it off completely to fix the stuttering. I have yet to test this theory though. I plan to eventually but have just been very busy and haven't gotten around to it. I will eventually though. 🙂👍🏼

@adamsetzler Жыл бұрын

@@Maraksot78 Curious if that had any impact. Pernicious issues are the worst.

@FitzeVR Жыл бұрын

i like both Airlink and Virtual Desktop and have no issue runnig either in my Desktop PC my specs are similar to yours AMD Ryzen 9 5950X CPU, 16 Cores / 32 Threads, 3.4 - 4.9GHz NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti 12GB GDDR6X Graphics Card Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming Motherboard 64GB Corsair Vengeance LPX Black DDR4 3200MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned Memory also have a RTX 3090Ti which is still sitting in its box 🤣🤣 Virtual Desktop just wins for me on 2 areas , Gamma at least VD has a slider to alter this , omg play slightly darker multiplayer maps like Contractors on Airlink and you can't see make out enemies in doorways , and VD has more options yes you could argue that one as Airlink has options you can tweak within the ODT

@Maraksot78 Жыл бұрын

I'm there with you. Virtual Desktop is a really great app. I too like how if lets you change settings while you're in VR that you have to open the Oculus Debug Tool to change when using Air Link (i.e. the performance overlay, sharpening, asynchronous space warp, gamma, etc). Not a big deal but much more cumbersome for sure. If I was able to get rid of the stuttering with Virtual Desktop it would be my go to for sure. Air Link plays nice and smooth and that's the most important thing to me.

@FitzeVR Жыл бұрын

@@Maraksot78 if Airlink had similar options to use on the fly like Virtual Desktop everyone would use it all the time , Guy Godin is always updating & improving VD Airlink though has got better over the past 6 months or so

@rushmore3927 7 ай бұрын

Oculus apps though are resource hogs even when not using VR. Poorly optimized apps that I kill with task manager when not doing VR.

@o_ozix1265 Жыл бұрын

quest 2 always make me dizzy

@Redridge07 7 ай бұрын

I have better success with Air Link vs. virtual desktop

@kinglooney-vx4ik Жыл бұрын

we like vr desktop more because you don't need a 10000 dollar pc like air link

@janioyahoo Жыл бұрын

Air Link is way better for me.

@idleoutcaster Жыл бұрын

Potatoes need VD Real computers need Airlink

@greisyn654 11 ай бұрын

for me air link runs like B U T T E R

@greisyn654 11 ай бұрын

also this is what my friend thinks my setup looks like 2:30

@VRixxo123 11 күн бұрын

Airlink is a buggy shitty mess, if you play anything demanding your AirLink Menu will be a 3FPS slideshow. The Server also uses the GPU when not inside the menu which is a big no no. SteamVR? Forget about it