Which Is The Best 4MM Arrow Shaft?!

  Рет қаралды 14,643

Jeff Cordero

Jeff Cordero

Жыл бұрын

Are 4mm carbon arrow shafts created equal? Does it really matter which brand you shoot? Can they withstand a carbon block?
In this video I build 5 nearly identical arrows to see if I could tell the difference in the carbon shafts themselves. All the arrows where built 55g Easton Titanium half outs, 100g field points, 4 AAE Max Stealth Vanes, Bohning Wrap and an Easton deep six nock. I wanted to test the carbon shafts rather than the components they come with.
Find more content HERE!!
/ jeffcordero_
www.JeffCordero.com

Пікірлер: 94
@eriklarson84
@eriklarson84 Жыл бұрын
Great video, but i highly recommend using a 24hr epoxy over the hot melt for the components. This will increase durability as well.
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
Possibly, I just use hot melt because I reuse components.
@MidwestBowAndArrow
@MidwestBowAndArrow Жыл бұрын
recently switched over to the Method ZMRs and those have been amazing!
@randomcdude4430
@randomcdude4430 11 ай бұрын
I would be interested in seeing how the hold up to a 6"x6" block of ballistic cellulose (aka a 6x6 square wood post). Kind of like if you shank it at the outdoor range and hit the bale support post or a tree in the woods, which shaft is more likely to survive and hold the insert.
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ 11 ай бұрын
“Ballistic cellulose” 🤣
@timbow50
@timbow50 Жыл бұрын
Loved it! A 3/4” thick board would be a cool test. It’s crazy what these particular arrows cost. “ for content, oh well”👍👍
@codiacmulletmulletlife9477
@codiacmulletmulletlife9477 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this, I like your common sense unbiased approach, I shoot vap tko v1 350 spine , about 430grns and love them, never had to nock tune a broadhead with them. I won a dozen Easton match grade 4mm in a raffle and was curious which one was more durable, they seem close enough to not worry about it. I was trying to decide if I should switch over to axis 4mm. I will say the vaps have been an extremely durable arrow shaft for me, I've bent their victory 50grn outserts hitting the ground and hard stuff and just heated them up and slap on another. I also have the vapes 300 spine for a heavier set up, about 530grns, with ethics archery outserts, I had a let down mishap with them and shot a lava rock about 3 feet in front of me and nothing blew up and even the sevr broadhead handled it pretty damn good, but the tip broke off. I'm gonna give the axis a go, I think you can't go wrong with either but you gotta try new things.
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
Yea they are all very similar in durability and performance.
@snboutdoors9567
@snboutdoors9567 Жыл бұрын
Great vid as always. I have found that the iron will 4mm hidden inserts and collars are super durable, but I do not think they will live through a block like that. Rocks and things are no problem for them. Keep it up man
@ExperienceMoreLLC
@ExperienceMoreLLC Жыл бұрын
Awesome Video love the brake down.
@charlie-xu4zu
@charlie-xu4zu Жыл бұрын
That’s an awesome video man!!
@wcwcgarner2717
@wcwcgarner2717 Жыл бұрын
Nice review and break down of the arrows. I like the 5mm Easton axis. I shoot it in 340 spine. 420 grains. They fly straight and they are strong
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
I shot the 5mm Axis arrows for a while. Great arrow
@demunbell
@demunbell Жыл бұрын
👍🏿 good content, great info.
@EREBO95
@EREBO95 Жыл бұрын
Great test
@YoureSoVane
@YoureSoVane Жыл бұрын
Components matter more. Anything with a proper collar will do significantly better. Stock black eagle outset and a longer aluminum HIIT glued into the front would be a great option.
@zhickman338
@zhickman338 Жыл бұрын
A cool follow up video would be to get a test kit from Valkyrie and redo the concrete test with them.
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
If they send me a kit, I’ll sacrifice an arrow or two.
@shaneg8531
@shaneg8531 4 ай бұрын
I wish you'd try a black eagle deep impact vs the x impact. I hate to admit this but on a few occasions nock indexing in my basement I've missed the bag target a few at 10yds. I've had 3 stuck into the cement block being undamaged. Great video!
@torreyintahoe
@torreyintahoe Жыл бұрын
I just built some axis 4mm's using the titanium outserts. I'm shooting 72lb, 29" draw and Easton's shaft selector recommended 250-300 spine. I went with the 250. Hope I'm not overspined. Good video as usual.
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
I was also on the line. I’ve never had a problem of being slightly overspined.
@reddawng43x91
@reddawng43x91 11 ай бұрын
You a super overspined if you shoot 100g head
@torreyintahoe
@torreyintahoe 11 ай бұрын
@@reddawng43x91 Nope, they shoot great.
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ 11 ай бұрын
I'm also shooting a 55g inset on an agressing cam. I am properly spined @@reddawng43x91
@anthonyforfare7223
@anthonyforfare7223 Жыл бұрын
Nice video 👍🎯🏹 Try Valkyrie arrow setup? Pretty interesting 🤔
@darcyfloreani9722
@darcyfloreani9722 Жыл бұрын
I use the Sirius Orion arrows with their Inserts which are Ethics. You have some choices here with the Inserts and the outserts. Stainless steel not quite as good as titanium but are included with the arrow price. 16.66 per arrow without vanes.
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
Yup. I’ve shot them before, Ethics makes awesome components!
@mjc_208
@mjc_208 Жыл бұрын
Comment for algorithm push 👍. Great video!
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
Thanks for that!
@feralgrandad4429
@feralgrandad4429 Жыл бұрын
Victory arrows have always been great for me 😊. Out of interest Jeff can you tell me what poundage/draw length you we're shooting please?
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
30/72#
@True_flight777
@True_flight777 3 ай бұрын
Podium also sells titanium halfouts top notch 👌🏾🏆
@larrygronholm435
@larrygronholm435 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see the same tests with the original/included components as a comparison. Maybe at a fresh block each shot, it looked like the VAP TKO diverted all the following arrows, causing an angled impact.
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
I wasn’t even aware that it was stuck in there. I did try and divert the shots around. Hindsight is 20/20. I should have done something different, but I don’t think it would change my results.
@archerash6695
@archerash6695 Жыл бұрын
How do all those different nocks fit on your center serving? Or did you just use all the same nocks? Sometimes you get lucky and they all fit properly but its rare.
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
I used all the same nocks for that reason. Easton deep six nocks.
@FlyinZX10R
@FlyinZX10R Жыл бұрын
I’m still learning about this stuff…. But what about those Easton arrows made of aluminum body with a carbon fiber core? I have a 29 inch draw and was looking at getting an entry level bow like a 70 pound Sanlida X8. I heard the arrows that come with it are crap. Also the draw weight drops as the draw length drops. From what I understand I should be looking for a 300-250 spine arrow? I think they are 31 inches. Do I really need to cut them down for a 29 inch draw? Just looking for some advice as I wanna do it right the first time and not buy junk.
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
The arrows you are referring to are the EASTON FMJ (Full Metal Jacket). They are a heavy arrow if that’s what your looking for but, I have had the bend a little and they never shoot the same after that. I would go off the Easton spine chart to see what you need. But that sounds right. You don’t need to cut them, but most people do to achieve a proper arrow weight and flex.
@reddawng43x91
@reddawng43x91 11 ай бұрын
I shot acc for 20 yrs aluminum core carbon outside
@dewetrobertson1752
@dewetrobertson1752 Жыл бұрын
Victory Rip tko is the best, moved away from Axis and Pierce
@brushbandit73
@brushbandit73 Жыл бұрын
What did you use to wrap your handle?
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
Bowmar grip tape
@brushbandit73
@brushbandit73 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffcordero_ thanks
@johnnewcomb5162
@johnnewcomb5162 Жыл бұрын
How did the inserts do? Still straight and reusable? I am thinking about trying them out on my Victory Vap SS 300 arrows. Great video.
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
Haven’t gotten that far, but a quick inspection, they look ok. Putting them in an arrow and spinning them will be the test
@johnnewcomb5162
@johnnewcomb5162 Жыл бұрын
See how far you can get through the old thick telephone book, If you have one around or one pack of the copy paper. That actually works great for the impact test between arrows.
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
@@johnnewcomb5162 a phone book. What is this 1995? 🤣
@johnnewcomb5162
@johnnewcomb5162 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffcordero_ Back in the day testing, guys would be like I will blow right through it, next thing you know they could not make it halfway through.
@suzgabverdugo933
@suzgabverdugo933 Жыл бұрын
I shoot a victory vap ss 300 spin shot at a snake sitting on a rock and missed it at ten yards by 1/2”. Blew up the broad head and insert. Arrow was still good. Rebuilt the front end and still shooting it since last September 😂
@andrewanderson6683
@andrewanderson6683 Ай бұрын
You should try element arrows, mamba, carbon express, altra, and G5
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Ай бұрын
I have Altra, there is a video on the channel.
@grant6608
@grant6608 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried Day Six?
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
I haven’t
@True_flight777
@True_flight777 3 ай бұрын
The vap was the only arrow which penetrated the block although it was destroyed
@True_flight777
@True_flight777 3 ай бұрын
Victory shafts 💯💪🏾🎯🏹🏆 Shooting vaps for 30+ yrs
@mikeferreira3879
@mikeferreira3879 8 ай бұрын
Try day six they are tough
@2scoopsmoose
@2scoopsmoose Жыл бұрын
Funny how ya did it in the name of content but you could tell it pained you to blow yer arrows up hahaha
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
It did…. I still paid for them
@2scoopsmoose
@2scoopsmoose Жыл бұрын
@@jeffcordero_ I hear ya stud! I’ve tried a few them and they get lost the same as cheap ones lol should try the 6mm cheap and light
@BucksBeesS.C.
@BucksBeesS.C. Жыл бұрын
I shoot a 480 and 400 grain 29 in easton bloodline. 6.8 and 7.4 total weight is around 350. With 100 grain field point different inserts
@BucksBeesS.C.
@BucksBeesS.C. Жыл бұрын
But shoot a 2012 bear legion at 27 draw and 50 lb.draw weight
@BucksBeesS.C.
@BucksBeesS.C. Жыл бұрын
Nothing beats a good aim. Even a field point will kill deer if you double lung shot. Practice makes the difference
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
@@BucksBeesS.C. not ethical, but I get your point 😉
@reddawng43x91
@reddawng43x91 11 ай бұрын
Under spined arrow
@reddawng43x91
@reddawng43x91 11 ай бұрын
I can tell everyone this for a fact! The Easton axis long range is the only arrow of all of em that you don’t have to nock tune becuz of the accucarbon building process! There’s no seam!
@user-hc4jn8sd2u
@user-hc4jn8sd2u 10 ай бұрын
Best thing I did was move away from micro and small diameter back to standard with a brass insert cheaper all around easier to tune doesn't wobble over time
@user-hc4jn8sd2u
@user-hc4jn8sd2u 10 ай бұрын
Durability test is a wash 250s would be more durable than a 300
@richardmacias624
@richardmacias624 Жыл бұрын
Get some day six big daddy
@sinepari9160
@sinepari9160 Жыл бұрын
I love easton long range 4mm but they will explode if they hit anything other than soft tissue. My daysix .204's just bounce off lol.
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
They seemed to all explode on the cinder block
@reddawng43x91
@reddawng43x91 11 ай бұрын
Lmao😂
@yvantomac9502
@yvantomac9502 Жыл бұрын
Nice video BUT... waste of money! If you wanted to compare arrows you could have done the Hill Method @ 80 to 100 yrds see what grps and fly better
@fredrickfranken3436
@fredrickfranken3436 Жыл бұрын
4mm would either use the Valkyrie system or the Snyder core system by IW
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
I use the Snydercore for my broadheads. Solid system
@mccreadymike1
@mccreadymike1 Жыл бұрын
😅😅, Mo
@afidbhawkins3173
@afidbhawkins3173 Жыл бұрын
Bishop makes the strongest n most expensive 😉
@stevie9361
@stevie9361 8 ай бұрын
Why not shoot something that "may" break arrows instead of concrete
@Pariscj
@Pariscj Жыл бұрын
Carbon express maximum triads with their insert system by far the toughest arrow on the market
@laportemateo1598
@laportemateo1598 Жыл бұрын
Not the most honest test, the VAP is the only one that stuck in the cinder block, if all of them are nearly identical, the Vap is more sturdy by a little bit
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
That’s why I bought more VAPS after editing this video.
@laportemateo1598
@laportemateo1598 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffcordero_ and that makes it honest haha. Love your videos keep it up !
@user-uk6dk2uu6g
@user-uk6dk2uu6g 10 ай бұрын
So did Vaps stand out to you as the more durable arrow as a result? Or do you believe that was strictly by chance? I’m in the market for a new 4mm arrow! Thanks! -sweet video tho.
@jimr7154
@jimr7154 Жыл бұрын
I would have cried Were you able to buy just 3 arrows per manufacturer Or 1/2 dozen- dozen of each If you bought just 3 each let us know how you did that lol I can only get them 1/2 dozen minimum at a time
@malcolmjohnson5941
@malcolmjohnson5941 Жыл бұрын
At Lancaster you can by arrows in any amount you want.
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
What Malcolm said, lancasterarcherysupply.com
@jimr7154
@jimr7154 Жыл бұрын
@@malcolmjohnson5941 Thanks I didn’t know that
@stevehunt4660
@stevehunt4660 Жыл бұрын
When does cinder block season start?
@jeffcordero_
@jeffcordero_ Жыл бұрын
I’m ready when it does
@stevehunt4660
@stevehunt4660 Жыл бұрын
@@jeffcordero_ lo..l
@user-yo2ql8gv4j
@user-yo2ql8gv4j 3 ай бұрын
Bishop fad Eliminator can take that concrete shot and be just fine
@dryflyonly1
@dryflyonly1 Жыл бұрын
Whats the point of this??? Waste of money??
@reddawng43x91
@reddawng43x91 11 ай бұрын
Carbon xpress makes the best arrows in all 3 sizes imo
@michaelcolthart4006
@michaelcolthart4006 Жыл бұрын
Eaton all day long…100% made in America.
@VnBsKrK74
@VnBsKrK74 5 ай бұрын
Shooting arrows into concrete. Calls it a "test" lets call it what it is. Destroying arrows .....
I Lost A Bet
19:38
Chris Bee
Рет қаралды 71 М.
Should You go 4MM ARROWS FOR ELK?
24:30
ElkShape
Рет қаралды 59 М.
НРАВИТСЯ ЭТОТ ФОРМАТ??
00:37
МЯТНАЯ ФАНТА
Рет қаралды 8 МЛН
EVOLUTION OF ICE CREAM 😱 #shorts
00:11
Savage Vlogs
Рет қаралды 12 МЛН
КАК ДУМАЕТЕ КТО ВЫЙГРАЕТ😂
00:29
МЯТНАЯ ФАНТА
Рет қаралды 11 МЛН
How Far Can a 2000 Grain Arrow Fly⁉️
20:11
Outdoors with Travis
Рет қаралды 13 М.
How To CORRECTLY Shoot In 3rd Axis
16:10
Jeff Cordero
Рет қаралды 2,5 М.
Do Micro Diameter Arrows REALLY Perform Better???
14:55
Exodus Outdoor Gear
Рет қаралды 21 М.
Sirius Orion 4mm Arrows ||  3 Fletch vs 4 Fletch
6:48
Jeff Cordero
Рет қаралды 7 М.
$65 vs $400 Arrows
13:14
Tim Connor
Рет қаралды 122 М.
Easton FMJ Arrow Review | 4mm vs 5mm Comparison
12:50
Extreme Outfitters
Рет қаралды 11 М.
Our HUNTING ARROWS!!! - (Weight, Spine, Length, Inserts, and BROADHEADS)
12:35
The BEST HUNTING ARROW?
21:49
Chris Bee
Рет қаралды 390 М.
Easton 4mm Axis Long Range Arrow Shaft | Product Review
4:59
Lancaster Archery Supply
Рет қаралды 10 М.
Punished for insolence! #mma
0:28
IMBALANCE
Рет қаралды 6 МЛН