Whiplash - Give A Retard A Calculator Scene

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3 жыл бұрын

Andrew Neiman (Miles Teller) is an ambitious young jazz drummer, in pursuit of rising to the top of his elite music conservatory. Terence Fletcher (J.K. Simmons), an instructor known for his terrifying teaching methods, discovers Andrew and transfers the aspiring drummer into the top jazz ensemble

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@mikepark2553
@mikepark2553 2 жыл бұрын
After a nervous breakdown, the drummer ended up becoming a mass weapons manufacturer for the US government
@georgeofhamilton
@georgeofhamilton 2 жыл бұрын
Dealer, not manufacturer.
@mikepark2553
@mikepark2553 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgeofhamilton haha you’re right on that - thanks for the catch
@ladicius5741
@ladicius5741 2 жыл бұрын
Then he started partying with Teens.....
@Aric_EPU
@Aric_EPU 2 жыл бұрын
@ONTHEKAISEN We don’t like to remember that part of him.
@singhatar0912
@singhatar0912 2 жыл бұрын
Lmfaooo
@sorgan7136
@sorgan7136 2 жыл бұрын
The line "get the fuck out of my sight before I demolish you" is one of my favorites
@Candymantherapper
@Candymantherapper 2 жыл бұрын
I can still see u minimi
@tylerstanley8303
@tylerstanley8303 2 жыл бұрын
Im gonna use this one day, just havent had the opportune moment
@bellboi9211
@bellboi9211 2 жыл бұрын
You should use this line on a UFC fighter.
@DaveThePlump
@DaveThePlump 2 жыл бұрын
kinda scary hearing it from Omni-Man
@notinterested8452
@notinterested8452 2 жыл бұрын
@@bellboi9211 okay boomer.
@baboobaboo1542
@baboobaboo1542 9 ай бұрын
This is how Jeff bezos act when Amazon workers ask for a bathroom break
@joeysplats3209
@joeysplats3209 Ай бұрын
Don't you have a "no disparagement" clause in your contract?
@Conan_the_Based
@Conan_the_Based 14 күн бұрын
People keep smack-talking Bezos. The man's been retired from Amazon for 3 years. Cut him some slack. Go after the current CEO instead. He's actually far worse.
@alexoblivion9295
@alexoblivion9295 10 күн бұрын
You're a bathroom break
@gabrielmecenas2075
@gabrielmecenas2075 6 күн бұрын
@@Conan_the_Based Bezos fake account...
@porterhoward3194
@porterhoward3194 Жыл бұрын
The transition from giving the little girl a high-five to “LISTEN UP C--KSUCKERS” was gold
@Iamaretardwhopoopsinhispants
@Iamaretardwhopoopsinhispants 2 күн бұрын
Did...did you just censor yourself?
@gianfrixmg
@gianfrixmg 23 сағат бұрын
The door was still open, so the little girl could've totally heard lol
@MyFavoriteDisease
@MyFavoriteDisease 2 жыл бұрын
My batshit-crazy instructor just told me to never leave the folder laying around. It's probably a good idea to give it to my competitor.
@Soldier4USA2005
@Soldier4USA2005 2 жыл бұрын
One of the few problems I had with the movie. It makes the guy look extremely stupid and with his "medical condition" ... I don't see how he got selected for the band in the first place.
@drzerogi
@drzerogi 2 жыл бұрын
@@LouisE-mp8lx Exactly. I was a trumpet player in my Junior High School band and I memorized the songs. Hell, I still know how to play most of them nearly 2 decades later.
@johnkreese4706
@johnkreese4706 2 жыл бұрын
@@Soldier4USA2005 he was a pawn to inspire his real protege
@TheLifeLaVita
@TheLifeLaVita 2 жыл бұрын
@@LouisE-mp8lx you do memorize songs, but you always read the music as professionals. but I guess you can go to al the orchestras in the world and start telling them to trash the sheets because you feel like they should go by memory xD put some padding on your ass first
@jd0879
@jd0879 2 жыл бұрын
Last time I played in my high school band was 2010 and still have the majority of the song memorized just from practicing it so much
@YYLegend
@YYLegend 2 жыл бұрын
JK Simmons just being yoked out of his mind in his mid 60s absolute legend
@LiamC328
@LiamC328 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think my man's still gonna play J Jonah Jameson for the rest of his career
@jskrabac
@jskrabac 2 жыл бұрын
Yoked?
@jZamora87
@jZamora87 2 жыл бұрын
@@jskrabac that's what betas think when they see someone who isn't a twig or obese.
@jskrabac
@jskrabac 2 жыл бұрын
@@jZamora87 Damn I didn't know guys still unironically used the word beta post 2016 🤔
@yaok3349
@yaok3349 2 жыл бұрын
@@jskrabac you could say j garcia is probably slightly "yoked", the yoke goes to the head ya know
@evanlee93
@evanlee93 Жыл бұрын
Fletcher really is the embodiment of every perfectionist nightmare music teacher/conductor I've ever seen or heard of. Thank fuck I never had to go through that
@jaykim8851
@jaykim8851 Жыл бұрын
I've had to in highschool choir. Our choir instructor was a perfectionist who hammered us into a well oiled machine. He did it through rage and fear. When I was doing a tour of the school before applying (was a private school) I sat in on a rehearsal where the choir sang a beautiful rendition of Mozart's Lacrimosa...then the choir director told the entire choir "that was a mediocre performance" and I was ushered out. What followed was four years of the best of times and worst of times in a choir ran by a perfectionist with anger issues. But we sang beautifully at all of our performances to standing ovations.
@Revealingstorm.
@Revealingstorm. Жыл бұрын
@D DOG Honeslty Fletcher needed the cops called on him more than anything. dude is a psychopath.
@twinattack
@twinattack Жыл бұрын
for me and evmerging when we were young it was our gym teacher swearing at us throwing metal objects at us telling us to do 100 pushups while he ate a subway sitting on the floor.
@lueysixty-six7300
@lueysixty-six7300 Жыл бұрын
It sucks the joy out of music there by defeating the purpose
@Afroofthenight
@Afroofthenight Жыл бұрын
I grew up learning under a Fletcher. She was an old lady but watching this movie I felt how she was the same person as Fletcher
@YellowToothedSpaz
@YellowToothedSpaz Жыл бұрын
The most disturbing part of this whole movie in my opinion is seeing Fletcher talking to that little girl about joining his band when she's older. Knowing what Fletcher's like behind closed doors and how his abusive and mentally destructive behaviour caused one of his past students to commit suicide, and eventually Andrew's in the future, it's disgusting to put that dream into her head when you know what he could put her through when she grows up and plays for him. I like to think Fletcher is thinking at that point, "Once you're old enough, I'm gonna javelin throw a fucking clarinet at your head to push you beyond your limits".
@tai2664
@tai2664 Жыл бұрын
Fr, no one talks about this but it is disturbing. Andrew is kinda thinking that... Or at least that's what it looks like.
@AhmedRw
@AhmedRw Жыл бұрын
That's how legends made , you need to step out of your comfort zone , and if some one abuses you out of your precious comfort zone you'll reach the highest possible, i mean you can always quit if you to comfortable to step out of it
@crisptomato9495
@crisptomato9495 11 ай бұрын
He probably won’t even recruit her based on her being a girl, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the band is a sausage fest lol.
@ostardreamz4832
@ostardreamz4832 11 ай бұрын
@@tai2664I’m pretty sure Andrew was gaining hood that he’s a good person but ofc…
@UghHimAgain
@UghHimAgain 11 ай бұрын
But andrew didn't die though. The director stated he would have envisioned andrew dying from a drug overdose but that didn't happen
@white_t_shirt7421
@white_t_shirt7421 3 жыл бұрын
The amount of anxiety each and every clip of this movie gives me...
@freeshotjack8324
@freeshotjack8324 3 жыл бұрын
Feel like he’s personally shouting at me
@dudechill4119
@dudechill4119 2 жыл бұрын
I mean right holy shit and I got used to getting yelled at by a drill sergeant, but this guys attitude and look, and aura is on a whole other level!!!
@andrewclark6822
@andrewclark6822 2 жыл бұрын
@@dudechill4119 yeah i wouldn't put up with that. It's uncalled for imo
@ArkansasGamer
@ArkansasGamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewclark6822 he definitely crossed the line. But he also pushed his student to become potentially one of the next greats. Not saying that it was right, but he did accomplish that
@MurraySteel3.14
@MurraySteel3.14 2 жыл бұрын
I literally just said the same thing to myself whilst watching this clip. 😆
@DanLetts97
@DanLetts97 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly this school doesn’t have an anti-bullying policy
@shamiir18
@shamiir18 3 жыл бұрын
They actually low-key encourage bullying
@trequor
@trequor 3 жыл бұрын
Anti-bullying policies are the greatest tool bullies have ever been given.
@TheTeleporter101
@TheTeleporter101 3 жыл бұрын
No shit
@supermelonbread
@supermelonbread 3 жыл бұрын
It’s kind of a military mentality. That’s why drill sergeants exist. It does toughen you up and make you more responsible or fear being unprepared. Is it worth the anxiety and mental health of the students? That’s the conflict the movie delves into
@dannylin5342
@dannylin5342 3 жыл бұрын
Anti-bullying policy doesn't teach the victim much about how to handle bullies in adult life.
@chrisjames6327
@chrisjames6327 Жыл бұрын
One thing I enjoyed about this movie is you actually see what conductors do for a living - as in, arranging the entire piece of music, recruiting the right musicians, and then training them to play it. Standing on stage, waving the baton, is just the end point. I thought that was the entire job😂
@koenwijnen9186
@koenwijnen9186 Жыл бұрын
I never knew either lmao
@scoobz4177
@scoobz4177 Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah being an actual conductor that gives a shit about perfection is a tough job. Waving a baton is for show
@randomix4023
@randomix4023 Жыл бұрын
with out an conductor, the Lincoln Center Orchestra will sound like the Smurf Orchestra
@roguerover7598
@roguerover7598 Жыл бұрын
@@randomix4023 You know I've heard some claim that the Conductor isn't needed if the musicians know it all well enough etc, but I'm still of the opinion your view is correct.
@randomix4023
@randomix4023 Жыл бұрын
@@roguerover7598 I've been in a school orchestra playing accordion and our teacher was the conductor. I knew very well the play from memory, but the teacher with his hands gave me the volume I should play the accordion. Imagine a major orchestra and everyone player playing in his own tune...it would sound like a smurf orchestra. tra la la la la la la 🤣🤣This is why the conductor is a key role to a well played music.
@PeterGargan
@PeterGargan Жыл бұрын
I know he's supposed to be unsettling, but the calculator line gets me every time.
@spider-man120
@spider-man120 8 ай бұрын
It’s fucken hilarious, like who cane up with that.
@Nathan-ti9pm
@Nathan-ti9pm 8 ай бұрын
I use it as an insult against people every now and than
@CatieCass
@CatieCass 7 ай бұрын
And the Sanjay Gupta one too, that was hilarious.
@magneto44
@magneto44 6 ай бұрын
I just burst out laughing at that part
@lordshardik
@lordshardik 2 жыл бұрын
I love how throughout the movie, you see them playing these fun songs, but their expressions are so dead and/or tense.
@sabreman8546
@sabreman8546 2 жыл бұрын
Fletcher managed to take the soul out of Soul
@RhineStone46
@RhineStone46 Жыл бұрын
Me in most of high school band in general
@test-tl8dt
@test-tl8dt Жыл бұрын
welcome to concert band music
@dayligs
@dayligs Жыл бұрын
They've gotta be all in sync, no room for a good head bang haha
@beenguy5887
@beenguy5887 Жыл бұрын
this says alot about our society😔
@radinsyah1574
@radinsyah1574 2 жыл бұрын
He literally risked the entire band’s performance, and his reputation with it, to try earth out the next great player. He took the folder and wanted to see the kid play it by memory under pressure with no guilt. Brutal.
@Mikekramercomedy
@Mikekramercomedy 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize that he took the folder....I am a "retard with a calculator."
@lulumoon6942
@lulumoon6942 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@PhyroMcBruceEsq
@PhyroMcBruceEsq 2 жыл бұрын
what's earth out mean?
@endlessdarkness9798
@endlessdarkness9798 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhyroMcBruceEsq It means to uncover
@radinsyah1574
@radinsyah1574 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhyroMcBruceEsq Eek out, stem out, unearth, or quite simply, to discover.
@n_v9386
@n_v9386 Жыл бұрын
I gave the folder to Neiman..." Fletcher doesn't even bat an eye at Andrew after hearing that - it's still Tanners fault - he continues to stare at Tanner. Amazing little detail.
@Pleasestoptalkingthanks
@Pleasestoptalkingthanks Жыл бұрын
Thats how they train you in the military. If someone in your squad fucks up, its the acting captain who gets punished.
@thomasohare
@thomasohare Жыл бұрын
I had a knot in my stomach through this whole movie. I found it incredibly hard to finish
@peytonlewallen9556
@peytonlewallen9556 Жыл бұрын
hard to finish? lol ive watched this movie like 6 times
@ValentinoMarino11
@ValentinoMarino11 Жыл бұрын
@@peytonlewallen9556 Wow you’re so cool
@peytonlewallen9556
@peytonlewallen9556 Жыл бұрын
@@ValentinoMarino11 lol yeah sure
@augustinajackson3774
@augustinajackson3774 Жыл бұрын
True. But it’s worth it if you finish it whole with no skips because it sometimes resonates life. Gotta go through gruesome shit and you can’t even skip some parts of your life
@E-0921
@E-0921 Жыл бұрын
@@peytonlewallen9556 6? Those are rookie numbers.
@PhantomFilmAustralia
@PhantomFilmAustralia 2 жыл бұрын
_"Where were you? Looking for a folder? You're fired!"_ _"Sir. The Conservatory Competition."_ _"Oh, right. You're unfired. I need ya. Come here!"_
@jason11279
@jason11279 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm gonna to get my engineers to invent a combustible drum set, that BURNS YOUR HOUSE DOWN!"
@synchro-dentally1965
@synchro-dentally1965 2 жыл бұрын
"Your power is due any day son"
@artvandalay13
@artvandalay13 2 жыл бұрын
They probably had pizza time after the conpetition.
@KabooM1067
@KabooM1067 2 жыл бұрын
The timelines are getting a bit intertwined here it seems
@plague6174
@plague6174 2 жыл бұрын
"Whaddya know about the track Whiplash?" "Oh well I-.." "Ehh don't answer that."
@Krowsnose
@Krowsnose 2 жыл бұрын
"You're a dumb fuck! A dumb fuck!" Hahaha, gotta give him credit, the delivery was great.
@devonlaughlin683
@devonlaughlin683 2 жыл бұрын
His acting was spot on. He literally looks terrified in that scene.
@slizzardshroomer9666
@slizzardshroomer9666 2 жыл бұрын
What I love was how realistic it felt. Like that's how an actual person might react and say, not a scripted character.
@HugoStiglitz89
@HugoStiglitz89 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone could play that scene
@slizzardshroomer9666
@slizzardshroomer9666 2 жыл бұрын
@@HugoStiglitz89 no u
@HugoStiglitz89
@HugoStiglitz89 2 жыл бұрын
@@slizzardshroomer9666 Yes me!
@caesarstrings
@caesarstrings Жыл бұрын
An ensemble director losing his shit over abandoned music folders is probably the most accurate thing about this movie 😂
@ThinkHarderPlz
@ThinkHarderPlz Жыл бұрын
lol but what else did you expect from the drummers?
@damienstone5470
@damienstone5470 Жыл бұрын
Every time he starts yelling I feel an urge to go get him pictures of Spider-Man…
@jrobbin24
@jrobbin24 7 күн бұрын
He used a pen to burn a swastika on the last guy's butt cheek so I don't blame you for not wanting to piss him off
@matei-gabrielshelby3480
@matei-gabrielshelby3480 2 жыл бұрын
"The folder is YOUR fuckin' responsibility" FINALLY. I hate it when characters who had nothing to do with it get the blame for shit like that.
@Keptaro
@Keptaro 2 жыл бұрын
Then you didn't listen. Fletcher demolished both at the same time with a few sentences
@G0DofRock
@G0DofRock 2 жыл бұрын
@@Keptaro Demolished? He's talking about blame, he didn't blame him for losing it.
@SOLOcan
@SOLOcan 2 жыл бұрын
@@G0DofRock Fletcher himself never takes responsibility for anything he has ever done. He never does accept the blame. I would be sympathetic to his worldview if he did this. Maybe Fletcher is right, and there is a jazz musician out there that only could become a Miles Davis through his abusive teaching style. However when confronted with the consequences of his actions, he denies it. He lies to his class about why his previous student dies, and when he is fired from the school he blames Neiman, even though out of all his students Neiman is the one who might might have made it all worth it. If Neiman had to give up everything to become the greatest he showed he is willing to accept that. He broke up with Nicole once he realised this, what's more he fully acknowledged it, not appealling to any fake motivation such as trying to protect her. But when Fletcher is faced with the same dilemma, having to confront the cost, he turns it on other's and actively tries to punish the people who force him to confront it. Fletcher only speakes of why his methods are justified, but they're just words. Ultimately this makes him a coward.
@alabarjhoni9742
@alabarjhoni9742 2 жыл бұрын
nothing to do with it?
@alerey4363
@alerey4363 2 жыл бұрын
this scene is about lame excuses, only that Fletcher knewing that found the oportunity to test the kid in competeition, look how he looks him all the time like a predator during the theme lol, it's like "I did that move to have you in this situation and getting away with it"
@foodbug
@foodbug 3 жыл бұрын
If the theory is true that Fletcher took the folder, then that was a high gamble on Fletcher's part to believe Neiman would remember the music.
@allsmilesguy
@allsmilesguy 3 жыл бұрын
High risk high reward. Sounds like Fletcher to me.
@Beardboythegreat
@Beardboythegreat 3 жыл бұрын
Could have just as easily been testing Carl to push him to stop relying on the Sheet music, force his 'Charlie Parker' moment. At any rate if Fletcher took the folder he could've easily handed it back over and pretended its his spare.
@Regitron3000
@Regitron3000 3 жыл бұрын
@@Beardboythegreat This is most likely the what he may have been doing. He may have took the folder initially as punishment for disregarding his warning about leaving folders laying around, but he probably also saw it as an opportunity to test Carl and push him. A fly or die moment. Also tanking the band for the sole sake of absolutely humiliating someone even at the risk of his own reputation is something he totally would do, considering that's exactly what he attempts to do to Nieman at the end of the film.
@ILagable
@ILagable 3 жыл бұрын
@@Beardboythegreat the handing back part probably wouldn't work. Usually people who own music charts themselves -- especially a whole folder -- can easily tell its theirs even already assuming that they haven't wrote notes in their book already. But having said that, he definitely have written notes everywhere in the music sheets.
@WatOnsonn
@WatOnsonn 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh if Neiman didn't know the music by memory, Fletcher could still say that he was teaching them a lesson by stealing the folder and then give it back.
@lovefromwonderland
@lovefromwonderland 10 ай бұрын
“I swear to fucking god, I will stop being so polite- get the FUCK out of my sight before I demolish you.”
@thewalkingcrow8946
@thewalkingcrow8946 Жыл бұрын
I had a director like this once. We were good. He ran everyone else off. We had a solid sound. Then a good teacher and director came in and turned that iron core into a world national jazz band that has recruited some of the biggest names in the industry and routinely goes on international tours. Not bad for a small ass college town jazz band in the armpit of nowhere in Arkansas.
@ParkerRognrud
@ParkerRognrud Жыл бұрын
UCA?
@razorbackroar
@razorbackroar 7 ай бұрын
ASU?
@horatio2560
@horatio2560 6 ай бұрын
POOPOO?
@EduardoGarcia-ww8su
@EduardoGarcia-ww8su 4 ай бұрын
PEEPEE?
@romilrh
@romilrh 2 жыл бұрын
JK Simmons as Fletcher will go down in history as one of the greatest acting performances in film history. He was absolutely electric
@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985
@somestuffithoughtyoumightl6985 2 жыл бұрын
Find clips of his voice over for the video game Half Life, Portal 2; he’s effing hilarious.
@ebbystein7577
@ebbystein7577 2 жыл бұрын
Na his performance as J.jonah jameson in spiderman tops this
@jfoster8624
@jfoster8624 2 жыл бұрын
@@ebbystein7577 no not even close look his spiderman role was great but in terms of actual acting This was/is his Best he's ever acted.
@jbc242424
@jbc242424 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. He just has absolutely no clue how to conduct. It's cringeworthy. They made up for it by having him just walk around and nod his head.
@donnie7897
@donnie7897 2 жыл бұрын
@@jbc242424 idk man, some conductors do that, especially in jazz band. It's a sign of the trust he has in his players and their skill, my jazz director always walked away and trusted us to follow each others tempo and become one. It was wack sometimes but it's great way to form unity.
@bendover9813
@bendover9813 3 жыл бұрын
Do people seriously think a janitor actually snuck up behind Neiman in the 30 seconds it took him to buy a drink 2 feet away??? It was Fletcher who took the music, he had literally just yelled at his band for leaving them around, he’s not gonna accept that shit.
@destroyermaker
@destroyermaker 2 жыл бұрын
Could've been someone from a rival school
@max-cw9ou
@max-cw9ou 2 жыл бұрын
destroyermaker neiman hid it, he knew he couldn’t play it by heart so he hid it because he knew it
@brandenr5937
@brandenr5937 2 жыл бұрын
That janitor is Schwartz from Henry danger
@djbenje4019
@djbenje4019 2 жыл бұрын
In those 10-20 seconds that Andrew left the folder on the bench, who is the ONLY person we know of who was in the vicinity? Tanner. If Fletcher was anywhere near the folder, he would have run into Tanner, and probably exchanged words. Also, if Fletcher DID find a folder lying on a bench, we all know what he would have done... he would have screamed his ass off at the nearest student standing there (Andrew) "WHO THE HELL LEFT HIS FOLDER ON THE BENCH!!!! HUH????!!!!" He wouldn't have secretively grabbed it and snuck away.. that's NOT his style.
@thefaceman4562
@thefaceman4562 2 жыл бұрын
@@djbenje4019 except it was actually in the original script
@wantnoodles
@wantnoodles 9 ай бұрын
“I will stop being so polite” had me rolling 🤣🤣🤣
@rossbrooks950
@rossbrooks950 Жыл бұрын
I certainly play better when I’m humiliated, exhausted, walking on eggshells and terrified for my life to hit a note inaccurately. My instrument just sings under these conditions! 😂
@MrMasterDebate
@MrMasterDebate 3 жыл бұрын
Fletcher took the folder.
@IntergaIactico
@IntergaIactico 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, and he definitely knew Andrew knows it by heart, he wanted him on the set but didn’t want him to think he earned the part.
@ernestoescobar1967
@ernestoescobar1967 3 жыл бұрын
Ik who else would ?
@user-ns3vs3bp3e
@user-ns3vs3bp3e 3 жыл бұрын
@@IntergaIactico I don’t think he knew that Andrew knew it, it was him testing Andrew’s commitment (if he learned it by heart or not) + punishing the core member fucking up by leaving it on a chair.
@benresnicoff3286
@benresnicoff3286 3 жыл бұрын
I had always wondered about this (this is one of my favorite movies ever) and can't believe I didn't see the obvious answer right in front of my face! thanks
@illegallemur4024
@illegallemur4024 3 жыл бұрын
Remember it’s a competition as well. I can see some snotty competitors stealing it. Who knows.
@carlosquiroz7819
@carlosquiroz7819 2 жыл бұрын
Fletcher actually never stopped believing in Neiman's talent. He forged it like a diamond, but at a very hard price.
@SOLOcan
@SOLOcan 2 жыл бұрын
When Neiman came in to play after his car crash, tracking blood all over the auditorium instead of going to the hospital, Fletcher fired him anyway, Pretty sure that is him not believing in his talent
@anonymoususer638
@anonymoususer638 2 жыл бұрын
@@SOLOcan talent doesn't really mean much when you have a fucked up hand and probably a few broken ribs..
@SOLOcan
@SOLOcan 2 жыл бұрын
@@anonymoususer638 But why stop teaching him?
@anonymoususer638
@anonymoususer638 2 жыл бұрын
@@SOLOcan Based on the ending, you can see that Neiman only truly shined when he took control, even telling fletcher "I'll cue you in". It's also ambiguous whether or not fletcher was being petty or truly believed in Neiman when he invited him to the Jazz concert, but I think the latter makes more sense.
@SOLOcan
@SOLOcan 2 жыл бұрын
​@@anonymoususer638 If Neiman didn't end up challenging Fletcher do you think he would have found another way to push Neiman? No of course not. If that was the eventual outcome, Fletcher would be satisfied with destroying Neiman's music reputation and that would be the end of the story. However perhaps for Fletcher becoming the next great is contingent on overcoming adversity through direct confrontation of the teacher. There is no other way. Sure I can see that. However if Neiman, after having suffered another humiliation, commits suicide, do you think Fletcher will lie to other people about what happens? Of course he will, he already does that. Fletcher never takes ownership of any of the actions, he lies about his part in the suicide of his original protegee, abandons his current student when he becomes unstable despite the fact he did instead *proves* he has required dedication he is looking for, and he blames others when forced to confront his consequences, taking revenge on Neiman for telling the truth I'll now reframe the question, do you think Fletcher wants the next Buddy Rich, or do you rather think that Fletcher wants to be the teacher of the next buddy rich? When Neiman realised it would take everything to become great he breaks up with his current girlfriend. What's important however is when he does he doesn't come up with some fake excuse that he's really doing it to protect Nicole. He's brutally honest, Nicole will hold him back. Neiman trying embodies Fletchers philosophy. Yes he hurt Nicole, but he doesn't shy away from what that makes him look like, he completly acknowledges he's a dick, he takes ownership of that. The only thing that matters is the music, it doesn't matter what people think of him. If destroying people is what it takes to create the next great, then so be it, but Fletcher doesn't want that. Fletcher should say, yes I caused Casey to commit suicide, yes I infact I do abuse my students. That is the cost, it will be worth it. But when it's time for him to personally pay the cost he avoids this duty. Is he willing to give up his reputation as the teacher of the next great? No, he is only willing to take on that mantle after Neiman becomes the great. Fletcher is just a coward.
@ckenshin3841
@ckenshin3841 Жыл бұрын
I like how Fletcher is really encouraging to the young kid but extremely tough on his students. It's almost like Gordon Ramsay levels of knowing who deserves his ire.
@KittiesAreNice88
@KittiesAreNice88 Жыл бұрын
Ramsey is really polite to those who listen #though
@koolarooo
@koolarooo Жыл бұрын
I don’t think that’s how the movie intends you to interpret his character lol
@digimonalvatrax2738
@digimonalvatrax2738 10 ай бұрын
hes not encouraging at all XD
@kerred
@kerred 9 ай бұрын
Ramsey from what I understand is not so much like his TV personality. Or at least American reality show personality
@NinuRenee
@NinuRenee 8 ай бұрын
neither is the actor so much like his played character from what i understand, moot point.
@knightstlkr7941
@knightstlkr7941 Жыл бұрын
This movie gave me strength not give up, before i was discourage by many scary/edgy teacher, but now i wont let them stand in my way
@dakid8775
@dakid8775 Жыл бұрын
That is good. Confidence is key. Dont let this world break you.
@standman6832
@standman6832 Жыл бұрын
@@dakid8775 Endurance. Don’t let the world kill you.
@dakid8775
@dakid8775 Жыл бұрын
@@standman6832 oh my God
@dakid8775
@dakid8775 Жыл бұрын
@@standman6832 that genuinely scared me, I thought I was going have a panic attack for a sec
@georgebanks4360
@georgebanks4360 2 жыл бұрын
The way Fletcher gives Neiman the unblinking, unflinching death stare during the first measures of his performance will always give me chills. As someone who performed for a perfectionist band leader, I can totally relate.
@briancorry3835
@briancorry3835 2 жыл бұрын
I can relate. That stare hit me hard, man.
@hanmeangirl6651
@hanmeangirl6651 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly how all of my compulsory course teachers stare at me when I was in middle and high school....I can't count how many times I was insulted by those ppl
@davidswanson5669
@davidswanson5669 2 жыл бұрын
I was never first chair but I was a troublemaker, so I got the stare nonetheless.
@bigblue207
@bigblue207 2 жыл бұрын
Advice for anyone who hasn't gone through this yet... You stare back.
@dazz14gooner
@dazz14gooner 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t relate because this is a film and not real life
@lunarmemo
@lunarmemo 2 жыл бұрын
For everyone saying Fletcher took the folder, I can see your reasoning. But please, entertain another theory: "Mini-Me" took it and used it for toilet paper to then be delivered post haste in a post credit scene we were never given.
@cristiangonzalez7306
@cristiangonzalez7306 2 жыл бұрын
This made me laugh WAY too hard!!!
@bobbygarrison3122
@bobbygarrison3122 2 жыл бұрын
Mini me, really.
@HeyItsTheWykydtron
@HeyItsTheWykydtron 2 жыл бұрын
Canon!
@TheLakabanzaichrg
@TheLakabanzaichrg 2 жыл бұрын
He could easily sneak by and had a motive, well done
@majas4922
@majas4922 2 жыл бұрын
The sequel : Mini-me revenge
@_Devil
@_Devil Жыл бұрын
This movie felt like watching someone go through military boot camp; The experience is designed to break you down, turn you into absolutely nothing, just so it can build you back up to be the best you can possibly be, to be at your full potential.
@romanfox3705
@romanfox3705 Жыл бұрын
Finally someone who gets it. The amount of weakness masquerading as intellect in these comments is mind numbing.
@Senku05
@Senku05 Жыл бұрын
@@romanfox3705 Said the youtube commenter to the other unknown youtube commenter.
@nicksipich1024
@nicksipich1024 11 ай бұрын
Yeah except the military doesn’t involve costing you yourself
@kulio1214
@kulio1214 9 ай бұрын
Quiet, you fucking boot
@heidenbarrel
@heidenbarrel 8 ай бұрын
​@@koli4213 clueless
@pandamera1
@pandamera1 Жыл бұрын
I love how Fletcher is both a character you hate but also can’t help but greatly respect at the same time. An abusive sociopathic perfectionist with a brutal passion for music and strives for nothing but excellence.
@bongwaterbaptist
@bongwaterbaptist Жыл бұрын
there’s nothing to respect about him
@pandamera1
@pandamera1 Жыл бұрын
@@bongwaterbaptist Disagree. His perseverance and determination are respectable. His passion is respectable. His perfectionist attitude is respectable. The guy may be a sociopathic asshole, but you gotta admire his knowledge and precisionist mindset. Some of the best musicians in the world are like this. Even Dr. Dre is like this when he’s working in his studio.
@bongwaterbaptist
@bongwaterbaptist Жыл бұрын
@@pandamera1 No.
@thetrickster9885
@thetrickster9885 Жыл бұрын
​@@bongwaterbaptist 😢
@anthonyt219
@anthonyt219 Жыл бұрын
He did give nieman his due respect in the end which I like but yeah fletcher sucked as a teacher. I would hate him.
@gluemuncher1986
@gluemuncher1986 3 жыл бұрын
The Farmers guy has really become scary and mean.
@emiliodelbozo3155
@emiliodelbozo3155 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't wanna see a thing or two with him.
@elMore1107
@elMore1107 3 жыл бұрын
Emilio Del Pozohahaah I see what you did Because he may know a thing or two
@DucksAndDucks
@DucksAndDucks 3 жыл бұрын
its from those years he spent in Emerald City
@theflixhub
@theflixhub 3 жыл бұрын
YESSIR LMAO
@williamesco33
@williamesco33 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Xzsh-ol9jg
@Xzsh-ol9jg 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think eva knows what she’s gonna get in to
@catcat6707
@catcat6707 3 жыл бұрын
I think he won't be hard on her and will just train her to a mediocre level, something like that. On the other hand, with these guys, he wanted to create a monster, a next Charlie Parker.
@shamiir18
@shamiir18 3 жыл бұрын
She's entering a world of pain and she doesn't even know what pain is
@stephenmurphy2212
@stephenmurphy2212 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter because Andrew actually saved that little girl by getting Fletcher fired.
@DidivsIvlianvs
@DidivsIvlianvs 2 жыл бұрын
He was being duplicitous.
@ContentWizard
@ContentWizard Жыл бұрын
That dude playing the angry teacher (J.K. Simmons) is an amazing actor.
@CeHee123
@CeHee123 Жыл бұрын
J.K Simmons is a legend.
@ContentWizard
@ContentWizard Жыл бұрын
@@CeHee123 True that!
@jrobbin24
@jrobbin24 7 күн бұрын
ShillinJer
@BlackbladeYT
@BlackbladeYT 9 ай бұрын
The biggest laugh this movie gets out of me is when Fletcher is speaking so sweetly to the little girl and old student, then walks in the room and his first words are “listen up cocksuckers!”
@jonathonredacted3396
@jonathonredacted3396 2 жыл бұрын
Music isn't created out of fear, but out of passion.
@estergrant6713
@estergrant6713 2 жыл бұрын
passion can be scary
@linusdn2777
@linusdn2777 2 жыл бұрын
And Andrew's passion was stronger than his fear of Fletcher
@RetroPlus
@RetroPlus 2 жыл бұрын
The whole concept of "competitive music" is completely ridiculous, obviously in real life a band director like Fletcher would just cause the students to quit rather than improve. But in a movie context it's thrilling to experience
@lookupverazhou8599
@lookupverazhou8599 2 жыл бұрын
Passionate fear.
@adibudica
@adibudica 2 жыл бұрын
I could not agree more. Even in this video you can see they are rarely - if ever - looking at the conductor. A choir/ensemble would never succeed as such, ppl terrified and glued to their sheet music with fingers shaking
@alexmathewmendoza
@alexmathewmendoza 2 жыл бұрын
6:09 I love this moment because you can tell by Fletcher's facial expression that he knows he won't have to worry as much about Neiman for the duration of the song.
@darrenthetuber743
@darrenthetuber743 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda like he understands Fletch, like he's not phased by his threats, because he understands as keeping the status quo, he sees right past it
@NebraskaGangCulture
@NebraskaGangCulture 2 жыл бұрын
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@juliocabrera2567
@juliocabrera2567 Жыл бұрын
🤓
@PrinceFloof
@PrinceFloof Жыл бұрын
@@juliocabrera2567 What?
@Rocky-oq9cy
@Rocky-oq9cy Жыл бұрын
@@PrinceFloof Don't acknowledge them. You give a keyboard to a fucking retard he's gonna try to type emojis with it.
@Lolok725
@Lolok725 Жыл бұрын
4:33 He looks like he's about to murder him. J.K Simmons nailed this role.
@averagedelta
@averagedelta Жыл бұрын
Looks like he's going to burn someone's house down... with a lemon.
@SL-wt8fm
@SL-wt8fm Жыл бұрын
What this movie does with the Fletcher character is incredible. Shows you can be a blatant psychopath and still have a group of men who will buy into your narrative enough to give meaning to madness. Perfection is unachievable, and quality standards can be achieved without toxicity, this man is manic.
@Mayhzon
@Mayhzon 26 күн бұрын
You misunderstood. Fletcher is not a psychopath. Fletcher is in fact very giving and somewhat altrustic, too. But in an oldschool way that you only know if you understand what "tough love" really means. A psychopath would have behaved the opposite the entire movie duration: -> At first, gas people up -> Get them to do their part -> Drop them the moment they stop being useful Fletcher did the opposite. IN the beginning Nieman was useless and he built and rebuilt him until he was. He then let him have his golden moment at the end.
@anthonyjones9256
@anthonyjones9256 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy that JK started taking more powerful roles with such depth. His range is unbelievable while he manages to make every role he ever plays absolutely believable. He's one of the greatest of my time.
@markw3598
@markw3598 2 жыл бұрын
I loved him in The Accountant.
@zookr
@zookr 2 жыл бұрын
@@markw3598 Came here to say this -
@2dawgsmiked684
@2dawgsmiked684 2 жыл бұрын
I know him from "Oz"...
@2dawgsmiked684
@2dawgsmiked684 2 жыл бұрын
@Bad Lieutenant thanks, I'll look that one up
@SovereignMax
@SovereignMax 2 жыл бұрын
I still see him as the Oz character by default until he opens his mouth
@felixtwo6626
@felixtwo6626 2 жыл бұрын
I love how this isn't intended as a comedy, but it's honestly one of the funniest movies I've ever seen.
@RemingtonDean
@RemingtonDean 2 жыл бұрын
It's not. It's really, really not.
@alexsummers9140
@alexsummers9140 2 жыл бұрын
@@RemingtonDean Agreed. It really is not a comedy. If it doesn't invoke feelings of anger and elation, then, something was missed.
@cxaxukluth5407
@cxaxukluth5407 2 жыл бұрын
I, personally, could never take someone so angry seriously.. but the movie is fantastic. Loved it.
@Journey_Awaits
@Journey_Awaits 2 жыл бұрын
He’s exactly like my mother shit ain’t funny to me
@kelp7060
@kelp7060 2 жыл бұрын
@@RemingtonDean Well that's it then. Science has proven non of this can be funny.
@benjamingardner3314
@benjamingardner3314 Жыл бұрын
I think this teacher demonstrates how great music happens despite people like him. Yes, musicians work extraordinarily hard and push themselves, but every great teacher knows that a great musician is already hard enough on themselves and will get the job done if it's in them to do it. When you show up to this level of a group, the instructor already expects everyone to have the charts in hand, and now it's about getting the group to gel. His weird hyper-tempo OCD is unrealistic, he'd tell him to mark it and practice (maybe suggest a recording example for context) and then move on, and the kid would go to his private lesson (bc he would definitely be taking them at that level) and work on it. If he showed up again without improving, he'd either cut him or hammer it out after rehearsal, not humiliate him in front of everyone. At the end of the day, teacher can pick whatever chart he wants, but he also knows that the recordings where guys are killing it comes as much from group chemistry and experience as it does from talent and practice. If a teacher ever treated a group like this, the good musicians would transfer because they have half a dozen other ensembles they play for and have no time to waste stroking this guy's power trip and bad leadership. If clapping out a beat and berating a student isn't getting the job done, maybe go about it another way. JK Simmons was fantastic, but he was a failure as a leader and mentor.
@uRDM
@uRDM Жыл бұрын
Have you ever played in an ensemble? Most of this is wrong
@count1572
@count1572 Жыл бұрын
I think that was sort of the point
@lordwaluigi8535
@lordwaluigi8535 Жыл бұрын
@@uRDM forced teamwork is never as good as natural connections, it's basic human nature
@michaelfairney4494
@michaelfairney4494 Жыл бұрын
totally agree. kind of spoiled the movie for me. i hate all coaches/teachers in this sadistic mode.
@Ravenbones
@Ravenbones Жыл бұрын
@@michaelfairney4494 It's only being accurate. Sorry your little bubble got burst from the usual sunshine and rainbows.
@Portugal2025
@Portugal2025 11 ай бұрын
I cannot imagine anyone other than JK Simmons playing this role. He absolutely terrified me. He also is a musician and wonder if he had any life experience like this on the receiving end which enabled him to absolutely nail this role
@realhunter1617
@realhunter1617 2 жыл бұрын
My heart stops every time the instructor is on screen, his presence is on another level
@CheGuevara110100
@CheGuevara110100 Жыл бұрын
He played the same character in Oz he had that same intensity
@vasiovasio
@vasiovasio Жыл бұрын
It is like a Snake in a Human body! Significant role for Jonathan Kimble Simmons!
@rvsonthelevel8746
@rvsonthelevel8746 Жыл бұрын
I know it sucks and its rough, but this is how greatness is born.
@hypnaxtic
@hypnaxtic Жыл бұрын
@@rvsonthelevel8746 and how he basically made one of his students commit suicide
@rvsonthelevel8746
@rvsonthelevel8746 Жыл бұрын
@@hypnaxtic Greatness is not made in normality. I am not hear to judge if it is worth is or not, but just point out how it happens.
@olicheatle9092
@olicheatle9092 2 жыл бұрын
I have never felt so anxious listening to jazz than when watching this movie.
@God7OD
@God7OD 2 жыл бұрын
You have obviously never been kidnapped and held ransom by 1920s gangsters
@VasilyMusic
@VasilyMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@God7OD That is really oddly specific...
@rhulks4950
@rhulks4950 2 жыл бұрын
@@VasilyMusic his username
@sreekarpradyumna
@sreekarpradyumna 2 жыл бұрын
@@God7OD Yo. We gotta talk about your username.
@ChandlerBecker
@ChandlerBecker 2 жыл бұрын
@@God7OD aye you good G?
@RobertNoss
@RobertNoss Жыл бұрын
JK Simmons is a force of nature in this movie. Outstanding performance.
@1Road2Success
@1Road2Success Жыл бұрын
This man taught music as if the fate of ALL HUMANITY rested in the fact that his band did not play a single note out of tune! And I was mesmerized until the very end Reminded me of boot camp when our drill instructor beat us all night because someone didn’t fold their t-shirt the right way lol
@YeahItsJdog
@YeahItsJdog 6 ай бұрын
Ur a victim
@1Road2Success
@1Road2Success 6 ай бұрын
@@YeahItsJdog Huh???
@Dimimash
@Dimimash 2 жыл бұрын
As someone in the military, when you lose something incredibly important, a lot of people will take that item and make it seem like another lower level person took it. It’s safe for me to assume that Fletcher indeed took the folder in order to compensate Neiman’s desire to play and by taking the folder, engaging that opportunity for Neiman to play without any notes whatsoever and by pure memory. Purely malicious for sure but very interesting to see this shown in film.
@Remington-wl7jp
@Remington-wl7jp 2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking about how, despite having nothing to do with the military, this movie and the way the characters behave are very reminiscent of the way soldiers act.
@F800GSJay
@F800GSJay 2 жыл бұрын
Gear adrift was what I always heard it labeled…I left a PC laying around once in the TOC, not at my desk, and it somehow got stolen, and a large penis drawn on the care instructions label. Ahh, the military…good times.
@danowolf
@danowolf 2 жыл бұрын
8151 more games than Mattell.
@diddlypoop4722
@diddlypoop4722 2 жыл бұрын
@tramdr The losing their colors thing is a myth. The 1st Cav is one of the most decorated divisions in the U.S Army, get a clue.
@mpharaoh
@mpharaoh 2 жыл бұрын
@tramdr The rumor is they lost their colors in Korea but that is bullshit too.
@rsolsjo
@rsolsjo 2 жыл бұрын
I introduced this movie to my parents. They were often skeptical about movies we watched, and talked and laughed throughout. When this started, they got quiet and sat attentively throughout the entire movie. That tells you how engaging, tense and well crafted it really is.
@Dottie1039
@Dottie1039 2 жыл бұрын
I can watch and re-watch many films...but THIS isn't one of them. Too stressful! A real kind of Horror film that shows you that evil can be a band director!
@rsolsjo
@rsolsjo 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dottie1039 He's not just evil though, you understand him. He's like a pro sports coach, he has to wring the best out of his students, but it's tough to watch.
@chrisbarron6157
@chrisbarron6157 2 жыл бұрын
The ending doesn’t make sense though. The instructor would jeopardize his career and those of other professional musicians out of spite to the kid?
@rsolsjo
@rsolsjo 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbarron6157 Honestly, at that point I'm so hooked by the movie emotionally that I don't care. Everything in a movie doesn't have to make perfect logical sense if it elicits the right emotional response.
@stam7250
@stam7250 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbarron6157 the way I looked at it, it wasn't about logic at that point for him but about perfection. He already lost the rep when he got fired and wasn't the big bad anymore. He was willing to do that to prove something I think. A mental battle between the bat shit crazy perfectionist abusive master and the driver but also crazy and abused student.
@netmastershub
@netmastershub 6 ай бұрын
All he has left is spiderman
@mck_21
@mck_21 8 күн бұрын
"...before I demolish you." -The Omniman within him seeping out.
@latinpercussionlover6598
@latinpercussionlover6598 3 жыл бұрын
So this is what Omniman does in his free time
@lunalegion
@lunalegion 3 жыл бұрын
And J. Jonah Jameson. Don’t forget Frank Dillman.
@austinbrown8560
@austinbrown8560 2 жыл бұрын
WHY DID YOU MAKE ME DO THIS
@brandenr5937
@brandenr5937 2 жыл бұрын
@@austinbrown8560 this planet isn’t YOURS to conquer
@unrealnews
@unrealnews 3 жыл бұрын
I love the sound of many musicians tuning/warming up.
@PieEater
@PieEater 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely beautiful
@Ismael-kc3ry
@Ismael-kc3ry 3 жыл бұрын
Serotonin immediately
@ddsdsfsfasblbllblbl839
@ddsdsfsfasblbllblbl839 3 жыл бұрын
Free jazz
@memowilliam9889
@memowilliam9889 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. There is an excitement that builds until the lights dim and and the instruments go quiet, waiting for their cue.
@jonathannagel7427
@jonathannagel7427 2 жыл бұрын
Better than a flock of seagulls, and I mean that for real, the band is awesome :-)
@ZedanB
@ZedanB Жыл бұрын
I was actually involved in both jazz band and choir in college, and I'll admit this sparks more memories of choir than jazz.
@spittinvenom9843
@spittinvenom9843 Жыл бұрын
Character driven classic. It’s JK at his finest. “He didn’t know. And that’s worse”.
@WeLoveDaHerb
@WeLoveDaHerb 2 жыл бұрын
For a guy with that medical problem, you'd think he would be more careful with the folder.
@Merthalophor
@Merthalophor 2 жыл бұрын
he was a tool after all
@timb37
@timb37 2 жыл бұрын
Even the good ones have plot holes...
@howard4997
@howard4997 2 жыл бұрын
@@timb37 Fletcher most likely hid it on purpose to try and embarrass neiman because he knew he’d screw up.
@silvermediastudio
@silvermediastudio 2 жыл бұрын
It's a movie
@Firjiwater
@Firjiwater 2 жыл бұрын
@@timb37 pretty sure the dude was bullshitting to cover himself
@windhvit
@windhvit 2 жыл бұрын
The best part about this movie which is lost to a lot of people is the part where Fletcher is playing Jazz in the club and doing a really poor job of it. It's the most milk toast bland thing you can do and he is playing as if he is soulful. Fletcher embodies the phrase "Those who can't do, teach."
@joelglanton6531
@joelglanton6531 2 жыл бұрын
It's "milquetoast."
@Just_Mr_K
@Just_Mr_K 2 жыл бұрын
I think that saying is under rated. Those who teach give those with talent the opportunity to rise above. If not for those who can appreciate true genius, but cannot achieve the level required, there would be little achievement, for those who do not have the opportunity, but are gifted. My eternal respect for those who teach, push for perfection, lacking the gift, but understanding the necessity for perfection.
@DanteRiley
@DanteRiley 2 жыл бұрын
@@joelglanton6531 and I guess you don't say "bone apple teeth" when you give people food either.
@antonyduhamel1166
@antonyduhamel1166 2 жыл бұрын
@@joelglanton6531 Thanks. I was ready to scream. "Milk toast" is what I had for breakfast today.
@ionlyusepics
@ionlyusepics 2 жыл бұрын
@@DanteRiley i was just thinking of the subteddit
@fordmustang98guy
@fordmustang98guy Жыл бұрын
1:43 I CAN STILL FUCKIN SEE YOU MINI ME
@dozerroman4325
@dozerroman4325 8 ай бұрын
J.K.’s best performance. Ever. He was nothing short of nuclear in this masterpiece
@manifestgtr
@manifestgtr 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm…I’ve tried to change channels with a calculator several times throughout my life. The results were less than satisfactory so I just ate a toy soldier then dumped a bowl of cereal on my head 🤷‍♂️
@livingminimumwage6359
@livingminimumwage6359 2 жыл бұрын
We've all been there.
@HaveANiceDayLol.
@HaveANiceDayLol. 2 жыл бұрын
I finished a puzzle in 2 years although it said 3 - 5 years
@pollygrey9143
@pollygrey9143 2 жыл бұрын
Try crayons nest time; more flavors than toy soldiers!😅
@steampunkastronaut7081
@steampunkastronaut7081 2 жыл бұрын
brilliant comment
@cybervigilante
@cybervigilante 2 жыл бұрын
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@djbenje4019
@djbenje4019 2 жыл бұрын
One thing we can learn from this film/clip is that an abusive authority figure trickles-down throughout the organization. Whether it's a company president, department manager, team coach/captain, or the father/mother of a family... when the leader is abusive, everyone down the totem-pole tends to treat THEIR subordinates abusively. This is actually a very important lesson which society does not yet pay enough attention to.
@jamesalexander8872
@jamesalexander8872 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see any abuse
@stevem.o.1185
@stevem.o.1185 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesalexander8872 then you are probably being abused XD
@WlatPziupp
@WlatPziupp 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesalexander8872 Did you see the movie?
@KoobztheShawk
@KoobztheShawk 2 жыл бұрын
Funny enough the same thing can be seen in blazing saddles, except in reverse. We keep moving up the totem pole, and each person seems like a leader until you meet their boss and realize they’re an incompetent moron
@djbenje4019
@djbenje4019 2 жыл бұрын
@@sneekiersnek3122 I'm all for 'tough love'. We SHOULD hold students/children to higher standards -- you can be strict with them and demanding absolutely. But name calling? hurling insults? degrading and demeaning them? Making fun of someone for being gay? Coming down hard on a student who is bloodied, who just went through a horrific car accident because he was late? This is Trump-style cruelty. He totally ravaged that one fat kid who ended up committing suicide, and for what? He wasn't even the one who was out of tune, right? This is what's called abusiveness. The only person who 'benefits' from it is Fletcher's own ego, and dark inner desire to hurt others who are subordinate to him. This is the kind of authoritarian abusiveness that happens in low-class families (like Trump supporters). And it only serves to destroy... destroy relationships, lives, spirits, souls. It's the kind of thing that can destroy the world if we let it be 'ok'.
@Whatever-ew4ti
@Whatever-ew4ti Жыл бұрын
1:07 I just can't get over how wrong this line is to ask brass to sharp the 9th
@caseywatson4508
@caseywatson4508 Жыл бұрын
I went to a WELL known University for music and I can tell you the pressure can be this great. However, Fletcher was abusive and often went too far. I have had my share of tough conductors and professors, but none of them were abusive to this level. Music performance can be brutal and often soul crushing. I have since left teaching music because it just becomes too much. This movie tells a great tale of what it really does take to be successful as a professional musician.
@yasininn76
@yasininn76 8 ай бұрын
Literally just play the fucking song
@PhilletPhish
@PhilletPhish 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah for those still skeptical, think of it like this. Fletcher specifically mentioned not to leave these folders around and from a filmic standpoint, especially with a critically acclaimed film like this, it wasn’t a coincidence for the director to have the folder to go missing and have literally the most bat shit crazy tell his band NOT to lose it. The “why did he do it” however, is completely up to interpretation.
@markmed9091
@markmed9091 2 жыл бұрын
Well , thank you so much for this insight shared with us no nothings . Great job figuring out this “ Purple Patch “ . Friggin Captain Obvious.
@vaneyes5137
@vaneyes5137 2 жыл бұрын
Oh the why is simple to understand in my opinion, it's not really a matter of interpretation. We discover throughout the movie that to Fletcher, finding his prodigy was more important than whatever reputation he had. Just another instance of pushing people cause that's the only way to reveal what's truly inside. He talks about this repeatedly. He saw an opportunity and took it. If Neiman didn't step up, eventually the folder would have been found before they went on stage. Pretty safe gamble with a huge potential reward. =)
@jskrabac
@jskrabac 2 жыл бұрын
Can anyone write in English anymore? Damn, I can't tell what any of these comments are saying lol.
@Person-lk1vs
@Person-lk1vs 2 жыл бұрын
oh wow everyone knew that
@sonder333
@sonder333 2 жыл бұрын
@@Person-lk1vs Really? How'd you figure?
@Requiario_I
@Requiario_I 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutelly love the dilemmas that this movie brings about music in general, as a musician i know that if you only play "having fun" you most certainly will get stagnated playing the same shit forever and ever, practicing, and i mean REAL practicing is the most boring and stressful thing, you get that exercise and you do it 300x until you know it in the depths of your soul, that is REALLY not fun, but when you finally get it you can have some fun with it, in the case of musicians like andrew it will almost never happen since he will never stop pushing that limit, because he wants to be the best, and is totally up to you to know if it is worth to destroy your social life by practicing 8h+ each day to be one of the bests
@dannysunay4386
@dannysunay4386 2 жыл бұрын
Huh?????!!!!???
@Requiario_I
@Requiario_I 2 жыл бұрын
@@dannysunay4386 what? im pretty sure my point was stated correctly.
@Altair584
@Altair584 2 жыл бұрын
@@Requiario_I Agreed
@backdoorcruiser
@backdoorcruiser 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, this is so true
@PCUser1024
@PCUser1024 2 жыл бұрын
This is why having grit and conviction is important. The pursue of extraordinary. The dream of almost every Asian parent. ...because being good-enough means you're just the same as every billion other people.
@aidansheedy8135
@aidansheedy8135 Жыл бұрын
“I can still fucking see you mini-me!” Best line in this scene
@FlatwoodsMobster
@FlatwoodsMobster 8 ай бұрын
Ive never seen this movie but clips of it give me ptsd from playing competitive sports when i was younger. I literally am like gritting my teeth through every second of these scenes
@obenbenisti1507
@obenbenisti1507 2 жыл бұрын
I like to believe that Andrew hid the folder on purpose, knowing that Tanner can't play without it, it's not impossible that Andrew planned this from the start so that Fletcher would let him play
@Plainbear
@Plainbear 2 жыл бұрын
The big theory is that Fletcher hid the folder so Andrew would play. He preferred Andrew.
@Other-AllOfTheAbove
@Other-AllOfTheAbove 2 жыл бұрын
Fletcher took it. The man is lightning fast and silent as you can see near the end of the film in the piano club scene.
@infiad1275
@infiad1275 2 жыл бұрын
@@Plainbear Fletcher doesn't seem like the type of person to conceal his thoughts and/or actions. Know what I'm saying?
@Darklight65583
@Darklight65583 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, so its never addressed in the movie who took the folder?!
@Plainbear
@Plainbear 2 жыл бұрын
@@Darklight65583 Nope. The big theory is that the Teacher took it because he knew Andrew could do the job if he felt like it was his last chance.
@jonathanreyes2781
@jonathanreyes2781 2 жыл бұрын
If Fletcher did take the folder then i would like to see that scene. Fletcher must've been very close, watching, probably predicted he'd leave the folder on the chair to buy something from the vending machine. Fletcher then with his perfect timing, swiftly snatched the folder and smoothly ran to the quickest exit. Or maybe he came in from the ceiling attached to a wire like a jewel thief.
@artvandalay13
@artvandalay13 2 жыл бұрын
Not like a jewelry thief. More like a spider type guy.
@jonathanreyes2781
@jonathanreyes2781 2 жыл бұрын
@@artvandalay13 yes, just like a certain someone he secretly admires.
@rrs_13
@rrs_13 2 жыл бұрын
Probably he asked his friend spiderman to snatch the folder.
@benjamin3658
@benjamin3658 2 жыл бұрын
@@artvandalay13 spider type guy you say? sounds like a menace, A CRIMINAL. SOMEONE LIKE HIM SHOULD BE LOCKED UP
@52BLUE
@52BLUE 2 жыл бұрын
Dude did steal Spiderman's outfit.
@thedude3028
@thedude3028 Жыл бұрын
Get the fuck out of my sight before I demolish you is classic
@C_Cooke
@C_Cooke Жыл бұрын
I can still fucking see you Mini-Me!
@ickyham4626
@ickyham4626 7 ай бұрын
"flexible tempo dipshit" is one of my favorite quotes in this entire movie. I've stolen it and called my friends that.
@GeneralKenobi69420
@GeneralKenobi69420 2 жыл бұрын
6:01 those notes still give me PTSD
@muhammadfirasmohamedfaizal9735
@muhammadfirasmohamedfaizal9735 2 жыл бұрын
hello there
@Bully_who_made_goblin_Jr_cry
@Bully_who_made_goblin_Jr_cry 2 жыл бұрын
lol same
@Luiz997488
@Luiz997488 2 жыл бұрын
Trying to learn the drums, mr Kenobi?
@alfredino724
@alfredino724 2 жыл бұрын
is it possible to learn this power
@strider4life696
@strider4life696 2 жыл бұрын
@@alfredino724 Not from a Jedi
@payableinsilver
@payableinsilver 3 жыл бұрын
Mini Me didnt have the makings of a varsity athlete.
@heatherperleberg7816
@heatherperleberg7816 2 жыл бұрын
Sharp as a fuckin' cue ball, dis onel
@JoePro1243
@JoePro1243 2 жыл бұрын
Far as I remember he used to wait in the car, and as far as I'm concerned he should still be there!
@leekam4606
@leekam4606 2 жыл бұрын
Small hands
@user-ce1cu5my4j
@user-ce1cu5my4j 2 жыл бұрын
Will you make the same fucking joke every time?
@merr5593
@merr5593 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ce1cu5my4j right! Like its not even funny anymore. Plus in this context Its far from funny. They are just desperate for some internet points
@guillermovacarezza892
@guillermovacarezza892 Жыл бұрын
We all had a teacher like this at some point in our lives, prove me wrong
@jp360ford2
@jp360ford2 Жыл бұрын
He knows a thing or two because he’s seen a thing or two
@jackbacon4021
@jackbacon4021 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly find it kinda weird that some people defend JK Simmons character in this movie. Its not a requirement to be a sadistic bully to be a good teacher. In fact its probably very detrimental to creating good, genuinely passionate musicians. People who think screaming at students and calling them retards is good teaching must have never had a good teacher in their lives. The only credit you can give him is that he runs an effective boot camp.
@NB-lv8oq
@NB-lv8oq 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I'm the 'catch more flies with honey' type myself.
@Heyithinkhejust
@Heyithinkhejust Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
@MrNick-og4qm
@MrNick-og4qm Жыл бұрын
It takes pressure to make diamonds. I’m guessing you were never in marching band at a competitive level?
@Heyithinkhejust
@Heyithinkhejust Жыл бұрын
@@MrNick-og4qm some people will never understand why or how adversity can help shape character. I’m assuming this person is the type to call everyone a winner for the sake of not hurting anyone’s ego.
@cibo889
@cibo889 Жыл бұрын
@@Heyithinkhejust Negative reinforcement is only effective as it is compatible with a person. Otherwise positive reinforcement is a far better and healthier option if someone isn't, and there isn't anything wrong with that. Nobody is calling everyone a winner for no reason, you just need to understand that everyone is different and experiences things differently, and requires different teaching methods.
@sabes44
@sabes44 2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how a janitor taking the folder changed the plot so drastically!
@Lrix
@Lrix 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew should really thank that nice janitor for jumpstarting his career and further abuse from Fletcher.
@HugoStiglitz89
@HugoStiglitz89 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't see no Janitor, I see the guy calling him a dumb f**k probably took it and quickly threw in the garbage before yelling at him because he was sick of playing drums.
@philippizza1
@philippizza1 2 жыл бұрын
@@HugoStiglitz89 no there's a third drummer in the film forgot his name and he's the one who took it
@northcoteknights
@northcoteknights 2 жыл бұрын
does anyone think maybe Fletcher got rid of it?
@Jehosaphet
@Jehosaphet 2 жыл бұрын
@@northcoteknights This is the comment I was looking for...yeah its hard to say but that's at least my personal best guess.
@stevenwotherspoon5205
@stevenwotherspoon5205 Жыл бұрын
He's so tough. I can't imagine what my Sergeant would say in such terrible circumstances. He's so brave and strong.
@wubbalubbadubdub5867
@wubbalubbadubdub5867 Жыл бұрын
Fletcher being kind and soft when there is a friend with his child is disturbing to me. He is an agression fueled sociopath, just enjoying his powertrips
@grahamblack1961
@grahamblack1961 3 жыл бұрын
He's positively polite compared to the way Buddy Rich spoke to his band.
@buschbacherfamily5677
@buschbacherfamily5677 2 жыл бұрын
Or Tommy Dorsey
@royslapped4463
@royslapped4463 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Teaching a retard to use a calculator is a super kind thing to do. This guy is actually helping these kids more than 90% of teachers. Truly a perfect role model.
@EXRazeBurn
@EXRazeBurn 2 жыл бұрын
The likelihood of Fletcher stealing the folder is actually pretty damn high if you think about it. Those folders really only serve THIS purpose, so a thief would get NOTHING out of stealing one. And this is a musical competition. If another musician accidentally grabbed the folder, they would have returned to try to rectify the situation or turned the folder into the judges/their band director to avoid a shitstorm. No, whoever took that folder WANTED it to vanish at that exact moment.
@minoxiothethird
@minoxiothethird 9 ай бұрын
Nowadays tweakers will take literally anything, break into any building, etc. But the movie was made back in the day where that wasn't the case. So I think you are right.
@dogehohoho
@dogehohoho Жыл бұрын
This movie had me literally sitting on the edge of my seat. Haven't been this invested in any movie in quite a while!
@RS3NDIT
@RS3NDIT Жыл бұрын
youtube knows how much I love this scene because it's been recommended to me every two weeks for the last couple months - and I click it every time
@keithfilibeck2390
@keithfilibeck2390 2 жыл бұрын
people mistakenly see this scene as the characters coming to understand accept each other, but really its just Fletch happy that he molded someone into being a vessel for him.
@imtiredofitallmakeitstop
@imtiredofitallmakeitstop 2 жыл бұрын
Im not sure how to feel chief
@Mayhzon
@Mayhzon 26 күн бұрын
You say that as if music wasn't a dream Nieman.
@billbrasky7540
@billbrasky7540 3 жыл бұрын
0:28 don't worry Little Girl's Dad, the trauma she will be discussing with her shrink when she's in her 30s won't be stemming from you or her childhood.
@sabertoothwallaby2937
@sabertoothwallaby2937 3 жыл бұрын
what....
@frzd8chickensoup
@frzd8chickensoup 2 жыл бұрын
@@sabertoothwallaby2937 the conductor (JK Simmons) is extremely harsh and strict and pushes people to their mental limits , even suicide
@KRoyski
@KRoyski 2 жыл бұрын
@@frzd8chickensoup Lmao
@emilal
@emilal 2 жыл бұрын
@@KRoyski you’re trying wayyy too hard to be edgy
@KRoyski
@KRoyski 2 жыл бұрын
@@emilal I just thought it was funny calm down emily.
@crush5351
@crush5351 Жыл бұрын
“Get the fuck out of my sight before I demolish you.” is maybe one of the funniest and greatest lines I’ve ever heard
@nobodytonobodysbusiness
@nobodytonobodysbusiness Жыл бұрын
The cinematography here is incredible.
@NZSF150
@NZSF150 2 жыл бұрын
It's so surreal hearing JK Simmons swear. In most of his appearances I've seen, he's pretty tame, language-wise. Even in his most unhinged moments as Cave Johnson, he never goes beyond "ass" or "damn." I kinda like seeing him act so off-the-wall here.
@roop-a-loop
@roop-a-loop 2 жыл бұрын
check out oz
@osco4311
@osco4311 2 жыл бұрын
@@roop-a-loop that was my intro to Simmons, too..I think I have the exact opposite perspective as the commenter above
@ChannelUmptyThree
@ChannelUmptyThree 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly you've never met Vernon Shillinger
@NZSF150
@NZSF150 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChannelUmptyThree I have no idea who that is, so you're absolutely right. :P
@TheThirdWorldCitizen
@TheThirdWorldCitizen 2 жыл бұрын
Invincible is just voice acting but the language was strong with great delivery, perfect casting.
@TheNautilusProject479
@TheNautilusProject479 2 жыл бұрын
I always had this theory that Neiman never really messed up the tempo in whiplash like fletcher was saying he was. In the end with that whole "good job" scene and Charlie Parker story, it becomes immensely clear that Neiman always had the talent, Fletcher knew it and just wanted to push him (like how Parker was pushed). I also believe that it was Fletcher who took the folder, to afford Neiman the opportunity he was so desperately craving. He knew he was practicing that same song everyday after their first meeting. He knew Neiman knew it by heart, he didn't have to ask, just wanted to see the level of confidence he had in a high stress situation. Brilliant writing.
@IwinMahWay
@IwinMahWay 2 жыл бұрын
Actually he did but it was super super minute miss.
@hughmcaloon6506
@hughmcaloon6506 8 ай бұрын
Yeah. JK Simmons communicated ALL of that with one eye shift. 04:53.
@mrbonk3139
@mrbonk3139 Жыл бұрын
I got my dad to watch it with me for the first time and now he’s watched the ending scene and the whole movie over 30 times in half a year or so.
@jarface993
@jarface993 7 ай бұрын
having fletcher on screen gives me the same feeling of homelander being present
@jobimzapico44
@jobimzapico44 3 жыл бұрын
There are some characters in movies that I could never envision being played by someone else. No one but JK Simmons could have done this
@Cukito4
@Cukito4 3 жыл бұрын
False. .
@nicoayala4089
@nicoayala4089 3 жыл бұрын
Then who else?
@Hs022
@Hs022 2 жыл бұрын
I think Michael Keaton could’ve done this and knocked it out the park.
@putridfenrir8508
@putridfenrir8508 2 жыл бұрын
John C. Mcginley
@WillHal1000
@WillHal1000 2 жыл бұрын
Gary Busey, John McEnroe, Sam Kinison.
@davidgobert6051
@davidgobert6051 3 жыл бұрын
One day I’ll watch this movie instead of just KZfaq clips.
@grahamblack1961
@grahamblack1961 3 жыл бұрын
I can't watch entire movies anymore, KZfaq has demolished my attention......erm....forgotten what I was saying.
@Plathismo
@Plathismo 2 жыл бұрын
No more clips for you. See. The. Movie. It's stressful but amazing. 'Fame' meets 'Full Metal Jacket.'
@PNW_Chemist
@PNW_Chemist 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the first time I saw a clip from this movie was 2018. Every now and then, another clip will be recommended and I always watch it.
@marshallmcdermott4737
@marshallmcdermott4737 Жыл бұрын
The part of this movie that got me was when Fletcher put him out there at the end with no music and Andrew decided it didn't matter anymore because he was Fletcher's equal if not more and proceeded to own the show with wreckless abandon. He earned Fletcher's respect, but he didn't even need it at that point.
@AdamBorseti
@AdamBorseti Жыл бұрын
That calculator line was gold.
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