I live in the Spokane area and own a pair of Whites, Nicks, and soon a pair of Franks (which is in the old Nicks factory). All great boots and one can't go wrong with any of these boots.

Nick's, owned by them. White's, owned by LaCrosse, which is in turn owned by a Japanese conglomerate. If supporting a small American business vs. a huge international conglomerate means anything to you. There is also Frank's and JK.

I’ve got the Okanagan boot . Best boot I’ve ever had ,It’s such an awesome boot , I’m so surprised that this is the only video out there on it that that I’ve seen so far. Great video 👍

Would love to see a video on your boot care kit. The bag looked interesting

Love this! Would like a follow up video in a couple of months.

I have the Okanagan as well. Great boot. Aging very well.

You do really great reviews and I think that's because you aren't afraid to use the boots and get them dirty. Unsure of how you prioritize the making of future videos, but wondering if you'd ever consider doing something on the Nick's Urban Drifter in Brown Waxed Flesh HNW last? I just bought a pair and really like them and I'd love to hear your opinion. They seem like a really nice cross between the more dressy Nicks Falcon and the fairly substantial Urban Logger.

Good luck with the Okanogan boots. They look beautiful. Just a point of clarification on Nicks McKay/Stitchdown method. The McKay portion of this construction stitches together the boot's inner lining with the insole and mid soles, and cannot be seen externally. However, if you look inside your Urban Logger, you can see and feel the McKay stitching through the insole. The stitchdown aspect of this construction entails flaring out the lower leather portion of the boot and double stitching the leather through the mid sole and out sole. These stitches you can see externally and looks the same as the external stitches on the Whites. This combination McKay and Stitchdown construction makes Nick's boots exceptionally water resistant. More so than the Whites.

How do the heel heights compare. The Urban Logger's stock heel looks too tall for my all-around use. Is the White's slightly shorter?

KimballCody... any chance you can do another update between these two? I really like the Nick's urban logger... except for the stitch down construction (as compared to the welt used by Whites). Thanks.

Thanks for the insights great video 👍

White's Mckay stitchdown constructed boots are $100 less.

Great review

I’d love to see the footbed of these boots. Initially and after the break in period. I want to see how the footbed adapts and molds to the feet. I know it’s hard to show but it’d be interesting to see.

How do you care for the leather interior of the boots? I know they get salt deposits from perspirations.

Oh yeah my okanogan had to be sent back and the ones I have gotten back I am debating sending back again because the toe cap on left boot is not quite even going across toe. Trying to see if my ocd can live with it.

Did you have Nicks do a lower heel on those Urban Loggers? The heel doesn't look as high as others I've seen.

Did you get a lower heel or is that the standard 55 last?

how long did it take you to get them whites Okanogan boots sir?

😆 How didn’t I know you had a channel??? Sub’d

Standing/walking on concrete all day, need safety toe. Suggestions? TIA.

Is there a reason why the white are so much bigger than the nicks?

I love USA boots and your channel.

I like the soles, treads, and stitching. Those Vibram soles are the best. Your boots are always great.

in the nicks, is that the natural waxed or brown waxed? thanks

The McKay stitchdown construction is actually more water tight and keeps dust and dirt out of the boot better than the rolled welt. Which is why Nick's moved away from it.

great shoes mate

Does anyone else feel they need to order White's one-half size smaller than Nick's? I wear 9.5 in Nick's and just got 9.5 in White's and they feel a bit big.

Not helpful. Which feels better, is more comfortable, gives better support? Things like that. Which do you prefer if you could buy only one? Also it would be good to sort out the styles.

So are they Nicks or Whites in the movie Cobra ?

Careful with ordering white's they are not as well made as they once were. I love my white's but it's not the same company anymore. I ordered 2 pairs from them back in september and one didn't get made the other was almost perfect but wasn't quite, I had to do some gluing to welt. I also ordered 3 through bakers boots thanksgiving weekend and 1 from white's (okanogan) 2 needed to be sent back (and again one wasn't made) because not made well, the third the tongue on right boot is like it is made for say a 7 maybe 8" boot were as the left is perfect, other than that they great. Anyway I love my white's but am going to try nicks next go around.

I have 3 pair of Whites & all the pull loops are made of lighter leather. 2 loops are almost torn through & the other 4 heading in that direction. NOT Impressed... The rest of the boots are fine.

Do the lasts Nick's and White's provided have the same arch support ?

ive seen several factory tour videos of both companies, i will say the pace at whites seems far more hurried and it seems like everyone is trying to get their work done as fast as possible. nicks on the other hand the employees seem pretty relaxed and are taking their time to do the work. its possible this is because of the management difference, but this is why i would choose nicks. as far as stitch down (nicks) vs rolled welt (whites) first off nicks will actually do that method as an option (i believe). the rolled welt does take some more time, but tbh the way whites does it is pretty sloppy imo, even on the boots they have in pictures on their website. in the tour video, the guy was just using a sheetmetal bending vice grip to roll the welt down, and in the pictures there is alot of unevenness in the welt as well as exposed welt stitches. i would say rolled welt is more rebuildable and structurally it ties the boot together a bit more, but the stitchdown is probably a bit more waterproof because there are no stitches going through the upper into the insole.

IMO go with JK’s. The only problem is JK is more of a work or wildland firefighter boot. You definitely get tons of options from Whites or Nicks

My biggest dislike about most PNWB is how wide the welt construction is vs a good year welt. I just prefer a narrower boot.

They need to cut a grove in the sole for the stitching, As it is with the stitching on the surface it wears through in a week.

That a good looking boot from whites. If I was to order that same boot from whites. What the name of that boot. They both a good looking boot

I think the nicks seem better. The tougher toe seems better quality. Just what I noticed. Thanks

Nicks FTW

the McKay stitch is actually more waterproof and is sealed up better than half welting. Hand welting is the more traditional method and Nicks still offers it if its something you want but for most applications the McKay is better.

guys, which has the most toe room? cutter? cruiser? semi dress?

do you like the celastic toe? can you feel it while on feet?

My next pair be nick’s…. Merica baby

Instead of guessing the weight of the leather...get yourself a leather thickness /weight gauge?

Just ordered Nicks Moc Toe. Something tells me that they build better boots.

I think you are a little mistaken. One is a "stich down welt", hand sewn (that's the Nicks). The other is a "Goodyear welt" (the White's). White's makes fantastic "stich down" boots for about $100.00 more. Both have their advantages, but a "stich down welt" is all hand sewn and usually much more labor intensive. The White's goodyear welted boots are very good boots and both hand sewn and goodyear welted have their advantages. They are very different types of construction.

The comparison you make is not valid, because the Nicks boots are already used, while the others are new.

7:14 yeah but Whites isnt made by a 7’4” giant at the Nicks factory!! Thats just plain cooler.

All "Whites" line ($539+) are handwelted in Norwegian design. White's "Harthorn" line ($389-499) made at McKay Stitchdown. Previously Nicks was also made in Norwegian design, but after expanding production and updating the site, they removed all references to Norwegian design (or rolled welt). Now Nicks sells only McKay Stitchdown on the site at a "Norvegian Whites" price or +$80-100 from a similar McKay Stitchdown Whites (Harthorn line). Difference is even more (up to 200$) if you remember the great Whites/Baker deals on Father's Day and Black Friday. At the same time, Nicks gives an evasive description of the design so that people do not understand this difference. Nicks can still make a Norwegian design for you if you ask him ... for an extra $ 100 :) On the other hand, Nick like Thursday can now donate shoes to bloggers for unbiased reviews :)

That's not a McKay stitch

Nicks are much better looking

The fact that nicks only does the machine stitch is crazy to me. We pay a premium for these boots and the hand stitched welt is a touch that makes the price worth it. Nicks used to make boots with the hand stitched welt, but I just messaged them about getting my hand stitched boots rebuilt and they told me that they don't do hand stitching anymore. I'm going back to whites now

Based.

Pepsi/Coke, Ford/Chevrolet, Stihl/Husqvarna. There was a day when Whites were the only game in town. Tomato tomoto, can’t go wrong with either or either. I see a painful break in period, worth it!

Also, just FYI. As far as I know it's pronounced [veebram]

The lockdown has ended. Will you honor your promise to dance in your boots for our LGBTQ group If not...we need to put you on THE LIST...

Too many commercials. Later .....

"URBAN Loggers", about says it all, eh?

"Norwegian welt" 🤣 It's just a boot welt my man, nothing special