What is the BEST TAPE SIMULATION PLUGIN?

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White Sea Studio

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Check the plugins yourself here:
Softube Tape: www.pluginboutique.com/produc...
Chow Tape Model: chowdsp.com/products.html
U-He Satin: www.pluginboutique.com/produc...
BABY Audio TAIP: www.pluginboutique.com/produc...
Slate Virtual Tape Machines: slatedigital.com/virtual-tape...
IK Multimedia T-Racks Tape Machine 24: www.pluginboutique.com/produc...
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INDEX:
00:00 - Intro
00:25 - Why tape?
02:00 - The Plugins
03:00 - Softube Tape
03:54 - U-HE Satin
04:11 - T-Racks Tape Machine 24
05:19 - Chow Tape Model
06:18 - Baby Audio TAIP
07:06 - Slate Virtual Tape Machines
08:53 - Shootout
11:33 - Conclusion
15:47 - Why your plugin wasn't in the shootout?
16:07 - Disclosure
17:10 - Support me!

Пікірлер: 714
@echodream
@echodream 2 жыл бұрын
I like this shootout but you should only loop a 2 to 4 bars section.
@EpithetMusicTV
@EpithetMusicTV 2 жыл бұрын
agree with this
@desperateBeauty
@desperateBeauty 2 жыл бұрын
yeah it would have helped to directly compare the same audio section.
@Labyrinth1010
@Labyrinth1010 2 жыл бұрын
100%. It would have been far more useful.
@doctorscoot
@doctorscoot 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, agree. I’d like to hear each plugin being used on a simple loop - both on the individual parts (bass drums vocals etc) and the mix bus. The complex program (sandstorm by darude) may match Wytse’s workflow, but it’s ever changing nature means you can’t always follow what’s in the mix vs what the plugin does. Whereas a simple drum loop, a bass sound, a short vocal sample, makes it pretty obvious what the effect is.
@grantoverend1
@grantoverend1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, totally agree. I'm glad he did the shootout but as far as helping us make a helpful comparison it's kind of useless.
@ownedbymykitty270
@ownedbymykitty270 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for shootout. I’ve been usin* Softube Tape and Airwindows Tape for years. However, the shootout didn’t really help as were hearing different parts of the song with different plugins. It would have been far more helpful to just loop the same 2 or 4 bars of different parts of the track for each plugins.
@rpgaleksy
@rpgaleksy 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video Wytse! It's good to hear your opinion on the different plugins. I have actually had some email conversations with the guys at u-he about the aliasing in Satin and it turns out that the artifacts are not supposed to be there. The issue has persisted since 2015 or earlier, but since apparently no one cared enough to report or point it out, it never got fixed. Since the developer of Satin left u-he last year as well, it will probably take a bit of time until the new devs can get around to fixing this issue. Some experimenting showed that the culprit might be the saturation stage before the actual tape emulation that might not be included in the OS path or have its lowpass filter disabled for some reason. The actual reason is not totally clear yet, these are just educated guesses that might or might not be true.
@zackfreedman2486
@zackfreedman2486 2 жыл бұрын
Ik Multimedia tape machines is oversampled to 384kHz, its personally my favorite. I agree it could use auto-gain, but after doing a shootout myself with them the IK sounded the best to me. Felt like it had more depth and a nicer glue than the others. Great video as always!
@mrnelsonius5631
@mrnelsonius5631 2 жыл бұрын
The model he chose on this shootout is my least favorite of the T Racks tapes haha. The T Racks 80 has been pure magic on the mixbus for me on a slew of recordings I’ve done.
@maxborosiuk3570
@maxborosiuk3570 2 жыл бұрын
also, IK has 8 of tape machines... c'mon
@bonchbonch
@bonchbonch Жыл бұрын
Satin is also oversampled to 384kHz depending on the project sample rate.
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 Жыл бұрын
After recent shootout review.....have to say the Softube is better for a Mastering Situation...it adds a more subtle open tape color....perfect for the whole mix....
@kaushalsharmajk
@kaushalsharmajk 10 ай бұрын
​@@mrnelsonius5631you use any preset or just the default settings?
@leonardodruscovich2131
@leonardodruscovich2131 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the Slate Digital leave all the transients intact! Thank you for sharing knowledge on that!! Amazing vid!
@ClemBennett
@ClemBennett 2 жыл бұрын
I use the Slate and Softube tape plugs every session. I think the "best" option really depends on what you want the tape to do. Subtle saturation? Fattening? Bringing out the high mids? Blown out tape compression? De-harshing cymbals? Softube (particularly the B tape) really adds smooth fatness to anything. And it shines brightly when saturated. It is AMAZING on hammond and other organ/key sounds when pushed hard. Good on a drum bus. Slate VTM maybe does more than just what a tape machine does. On the master bus it enhances the stereo image, brings things "forward", and does have a bit of tapey HF rolloff. Used at 15ips it has the subtle LF bump, especially on the 456 setting. Good on drums, bass, vocals but not so much kick drums. Where I use it all the time is on hand percussion, acoustic guitar and sometimes snare - it tames transients like no other "soft clipper". Apply it to a clip and watch what it does to the waveform. It does sound pretty screechy when driven hard, unlike the Softube Tape which warms things up. Nice video bruuuh
@daviddashian
@daviddashian Жыл бұрын
Sup , tape should be like the last plug in the master chain? Like instead of compressor? Cause i use some eq and then ssl comp, so i can use tape instead of ssl comp?
@mayzter8765
@mayzter8765 Жыл бұрын
@@daviddashian Before the limiter, my taste:)
@daviddashian
@daviddashian Жыл бұрын
@@mayzter8765 thx
@davidharrison7591
@davidharrison7591 4 ай бұрын
I loved the way you demoed all the plugins with the music, fantastic idea!!
@Mansardian
@Mansardian 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, due to this video I downloaded "chow tape model". As I know tape machines and actually know what those parameters refer to it is not too overwhelming to set it to my preferences and liking. Gotta say: I love it! I didn't expect it to sound that good! It was the result of a university research project and damn, it is really, really great! The "drift" parameter is pure magic - as long as you dial in tiniest doses and don't overdo it.
@gulagwarlord
@gulagwarlord 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds incredible. It does something magic to the high end and has a nice low bump.
@MaximusAdonicus
@MaximusAdonicus Жыл бұрын
What '"drift" setting?! It has none 😨🤔
@LeonardoLima-nk4fv
@LeonardoLima-nk4fv Жыл бұрын
@@MaximusAdonicus I guess is the flutter parametrer
@BILLYPATRON
@BILLYPATRON 2 жыл бұрын
ATR 102 isn’t just my favorite tape plug-in but probably my favorite plug-in of all time. Definitely my most used. Very versatile
@fromrjwithlove9819
@fromrjwithlove9819 2 жыл бұрын
This is the content we crave, Wytse.
@egoxploit
@egoxploit 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool video! i don't know if is commented in here but what i like about SATIN is the compander (multiband or full band compression -- expansion), you have the mix, encoder, decoder controls, and its magic is that compresses the signal before it hits the tape, and then expands the signal after the tape, then you have the mix control to mix the amount with the original emulating parallel processing, love this how it sounds in percussive elements.
@GetSongsDone
@GetSongsDone 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to your recommendation I went full trial mode on softube tape. The included mixfx version with crosstalk in S1 is crazy! Thanks again.
@tommymai3062
@tommymai3062 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I was just asking my self this question last week and now this video shows up. Thanks.
@woodsiee
@woodsiee 2 жыл бұрын
great vid but its much easier to compare if you loop the same bars for every emu without the song progressing.
@FatNorthernBigot
@FatNorthernBigot 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking forward to this comparison. I’m quite surprised there was a definitive answer… Top marks! 👍
@xaoslordxaosynth106
@xaoslordxaosynth106 2 жыл бұрын
I use and am very fond of the UAD Studer A800, which is very versatile and flexible. Helps add warmth to a mix and sounds amazingly good. Many options.
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 Жыл бұрын
After recent shootout review.....have to say the Softube is better for a Mastering Situation...it adds a more subtle open tape color....perfect for the whole mix....Ive got the UAD Studer and its better on Drums....than the whole mix...in my opinion
@groovywalt6037
@groovywalt6037 2 жыл бұрын
I am using Softube Tape over a year, very handy and good sounding, don’t feel like to change it 😃
@TheFriedSky
@TheFriedSky 2 жыл бұрын
8:58 Softube 9:04 Satin 9:09 Chow 9:14 IKM 9:19 Taupe 9:29 Slate 9:39 Real tape 9:49 Slate 10:00 Softube 10:10 Chow 10:20 Satin 10:30 IKM 10:40 Softube 10:50 Real 10:56 Taip 11:04 Slate 11:11 Chow 11:21 Real
@whataburger8319
@whataburger8319 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I needed this
@Ob1knob
@Ob1knob 2 жыл бұрын
I would love that 9:19 would be Taupe ;-)
@IanJamesBeats
@IanJamesBeats 2 жыл бұрын
Great video man!
@aesthetischeebm6596
@aesthetischeebm6596 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome comparisons. Thanks
@NathanDavidCarltonSoundbed
@NathanDavidCarltonSoundbed 2 жыл бұрын
I was extremely impressed with Chow! Generally I pull back the low end bass boost when using Slate. Softube had a great "syrupy" controlled sound. Taip sounded way too gritty and lofi grainy for me in general use (not what I go for tape plugins to do - it was more like a bitcrusher).
@GoatPepper
@GoatPepper Жыл бұрын
If you do some reading into Jatin Chow's Tape Machine, you find it is one of the more powerful and versatile tape plugins. There are papers and open source code available to get in depth with his process. He incorporates a choice of several types of mathematical Hysteresis algorithms for the plugin which is unique to this type of plugin. And he reveals that many plugin companies are using neural networks to create the algorithms in much of the plugin software being created today, his plugin included. I think its one of the most powerful plugins available for free. You could virtually dial in the sound of any physical tape machine ever created.
@Super-id7bq
@Super-id7bq 11 ай бұрын
That tracks to be fair. Tape has a bit reduction. In fact that's essentially what tape hiss is.
@GrumpyGr3g
@GrumpyGr3g 2 жыл бұрын
I'm using Softube Tape for a while now, it's almost on every mixes/masters i do when I do feel it needs it. I like to drive the input to get some more character. Really love it. Tried some more, but always came back to that Softube one. It sounds very good to my personal tastes.
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 Жыл бұрын
After recent shootout review.....have to say the Softube is better for a Mastering Situation...it adds a more subtle open tape color....perfect for the whole mix....
@GrumpyGr3g
@GrumpyGr3g Жыл бұрын
@@johnisrael5183 yes it really is a nice tool! Love it a lot and still using it a lot !
@LYSHEmusic
@LYSHEmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I use Satin almost on every mix on the master and on tracks. Very nice sounding emulation, very useful subtle and musical controls. I recommend to see Dan Worrall’s video about Compander feature in Satin, no any other tape simulation plugin has it. What Satin can’t do is overdriving the tape the way IK tape emulation plugins does. When I need hardly saturated tape sound I can’t get it from Satin. It saturates but in different way. So I use it for clean sounding needs and that’s what Satin does very well. Not having auto gain in IK Tape is very annoying, that’s so true. But it drives very nice and Bias knob works more dirty than in Satin, that can add to character if needed. After this video I really want to try Softube emulation. Seems like it’s very good. Thanks for your video!
@theiammike123
@theiammike123 2 жыл бұрын
ChowTape all the way for me. 😀👍 1. I get to do any type of tape saturation I want [and it used to be just a Sony TC-260 emulation]. 2. It goes up to 16x oversampling. 3. Free of charge. 🤯👍
@maxbosoxfan171
@maxbosoxfan171 2 жыл бұрын
W !! great breakdown of the old school sounds of anolog tape
@ronnyrosenow
@ronnyrosenow Жыл бұрын
Wowwwwww your hardware tape machine is amazing!!!! What a sound!!!! 😳 Incredible. It's the first time I hear a real tape machine, i never liked tape emulation plugins, i think they sound unnatural, but after this video I'm shocked with the hardware. It's like a magic texture. Wow. Great video! Saluti dall'Italia 🇮🇹
@BihlerOfficial
@BihlerOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Wow your real tape mashine sounds crazy good. I like the Softube a lot aswell. Great comparison!
@johnisrael5183
@johnisrael5183 Жыл бұрын
After recent shootout review.....have to say the Softube is better for a Mastering Situation...it adds a more subtle open tape color....perfect for the whole mix....
@intelectoturbo
@intelectoturbo 2 жыл бұрын
Man, excelent job!
@JohnSk82
@JohnSk82 2 жыл бұрын
The best emulation is the one that matches aesthetically with the track you're working on.There's no good or bad with all of the above plugins. Back in the day you use to go to a studio with a specific console and specific gear to acquire a specific sound.The same applies on these too.Great video btw
@partlysimpson5154
@partlysimpson5154 2 жыл бұрын
good comment
@JTguitarlessons
@JTguitarlessons Жыл бұрын
Lol
@Griuofficial
@Griuofficial 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a review!
@nahf4m
@nahf4m 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including Chow! For those of us on a negative budget it scratches the itch, even I have to work harder to get there :-)
@levondarratt787
@levondarratt787 2 жыл бұрын
nobody ever heard of chow...what's with that name?
@nahf4m
@nahf4m 2 жыл бұрын
@@levondarratt787 It's a free plugin called Chow Tape Model.
@thedevilsadvocate5210
@thedevilsadvocate5210 2 жыл бұрын
The tape machine Signal Noise SN03-G Tape Recorder sounds good and the guy let's you use it because you have a negative budget. Give it a try I use it on the slower speed always 7.5 ips. I like the sound it gives better than some of the more expensive options.
@johanneschristopherstahle3395
@johanneschristopherstahle3395 Жыл бұрын
Variety of Sound Ferric is free and great as well.
@user-sd7eb6jq9y
@user-sd7eb6jq9y 2 жыл бұрын
I have been using Slate VTM almost 10 years now. I have used T-Racks tape machines and at first I had trouble using them. Sounding good but a pain to use, So i created my default presets for example 15ips 456 with different bias, in levels HF LF etc , then 30ips 456 with same variations etc etc etc... took me a few hours to figure out the configurations i wanted. So now I just recall instantly and it has become one of my best tape plugins. Also I did demo satin when it came out, felt it was too much for me. Felt like i was inventing the ideal tape machine from the ground up, didnt think of making my own presets so i didnt dive more into satin. havnt tried the soft tube nor the baby audio taip. Just checked out Chow tape and im impressed by the options. its also free. I have to make my own default presets of custom tape machines - tape stock and see how it goes. For now anything i do just makes my sound more lo fi so i have to be thinkful of what parameters to modify.
@wreignone
@wreignone 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. You did a fantastic job with covering tape👍🏻 Also, if i buy of course i will buy with your affilliate links ✌
@oh515
@oh515 2 жыл бұрын
Some plugins solve every auto gain issue, but I agree with you. It should not be a big deal to integrate it into the plugins. Thanks for the great review.
@stefonwitten8164
@stefonwitten8164 2 жыл бұрын
Out of all these I liked the sound from slate, & baby audio taip, of course the hardware sounds amazing, but I can’t believe Kramer tape from waves on here that’s my personal favorite tape emulation plugin!
@forestcochran4196
@forestcochran4196 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with the other comments on the shootout being difficult to hear the differences on. Having a loop where you can just switch between on the same source audio would be nice, and hearing the difference between NO tape plugin or actual tape and the plugin would be great too. I already have CHOW because it's free, but I was thinking about checking another one out as well. Now I just have to decide if I want the all access for Slate or to just get the Softube one since I already have an account with them from getting the Sat Knob last year.
@briankingart
@briankingart 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your efforts. Softube! Slate!
@jonathancrowell4648
@jonathancrowell4648 Жыл бұрын
“You can use the same screwdriver on both of them” really sold me LOL
@briancase6180
@briancase6180 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! Great idea! What I like about tape emulation plugins is their effect on the low end. Of course, the high end can be nicely affected too. But, to that end, I recommend trying the Air Windows free tape and related plugins. I think they're pretty darn good and there's a variety (maybe too much of a variety :). Hmm, I think I'll have to give that Chow plugin another test. But some were very punchy on this audio.
@jahudka
@jahudka 2 жыл бұрын
Now I'm angry with myself for not giving a +1 to Airwindows offerings in the comment section of your previous video.. I thought they get mentioned enough by others :'( but at least Chow made it. Great stuff, Wytse!
@artvandelay2731
@artvandelay2731 2 жыл бұрын
Airwindows only does waveshapers and a lot of talking, not tape emulations.
@airwindows
@airwindows 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't matter. He's looked at ToTape before, plus I added a much better flutter algorithm to the most recent TapeDelay, and best of all, Wytze is the one who put up a video not long ago where he shot out a bunch of plugins against a real, literal, tape machine. The audio reference of that is going to be a huge help when doing the new iteration of ToTape, and I'm very grateful to Wytze for that video. It's way more helpful than a shout-out :) anyway I got a shoutout from Andrew Huang in April when I was updating everything for M1. He's stuck using Ableton Live so to some extent he's waiting on Ableton to be M1 native (native plugins and Rosetta DAW doesn't work well) but I've got it covered for everything that's VST :) So, not a problem. Love you Wytse! :)
@mlwsf
@mlwsf 2 жыл бұрын
I like the ChowTape. It's in my budget. lol. I also got to use it on some detuned pianos recently and it worked really well.
@braincoral9866
@braincoral9866 2 жыл бұрын
i A/B'd my old Studer A800 with the Slate and Satin ones. They're both very good
@Roboman20000
@Roboman20000 2 жыл бұрын
While the I don't work in the audio industry, I do work with software engineers and programmers. It's amazing how a programmer can focus so much on the function of something and they forget that an actual person has to use the thing they are making. So often, user experience is set by the side of a programming project. It's sad for the reasons you've described. I've seen you despair so many time on this one thing and when you get automatic gain compensation it just lights you up with joy.
@sfayend4785
@sfayend4785 2 жыл бұрын
more of this vids i love it ♥
@DarkDeejay
@DarkDeejay 2 жыл бұрын
Softube!Always use that one,sounds magic!😎
@Jrscarratt
@Jrscarratt 2 жыл бұрын
Every comparison always forgets about magnetite by black rooster audio! I absolutely love it!
@djGreenALERT
@djGreenALERT 2 жыл бұрын
The important thing I have learned from this video is that OK the hardware is different class, but the others do all sound pretty good
@Iulian.I
@Iulian.I 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you! What makes Chow great for me is the sound and the "price" (free). Sure, it would be nice if a simple control interface would be added and only if you want to dig deeper to click a button and open this interface. Softube sounded really great, easy to use. Slate is pretty great too, the interface is really good, easy on the eyes.
@airwindows
@airwindows 2 жыл бұрын
I know the guy who does Chow! He's Jatin Chowdhury and we both help out with the Surge Synth project. Chow contributed the cutoff warp and resonance warp filter types, which might be my favorite in Surge. Big fan! His Chow Tape is also built into Surge Synth as a native effect, BTW :)
@housebandthexenos2569
@housebandthexenos2569 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the IK sounded the best with chow in second place. I know the lack of auto-gain is a sticking point for you but there is a possible solution, because you mentioned being able to use both hands on the physical real machine. You could assign to hardware controller knobs to in and out gain. They probably would be too sensitive for getting it right but there is probably a way to do scaling, so the 128 midi range gives say just 5 db =+/-. There are velocity scaling plugins, there are also probably midi CC scaling plugins or something that comes with your daw. I used to use Nuendo/Cubase and they had tons of stuff like that. I appreciate your video and especially that you knew to just go back and forth between units multiple times without stopping. So many people seem to not know to do this and stop while playing the same section on another device/plugin. By that point your mind has forgotten the sound. Great also you compared against the real machine, which to me showed up most of these plugins other than the IK and Chow. I like softube and use it as a thickener or gloss, but I don't think it sounds like tape at all. Thanks again.
@ivanfaigenbom5300
@ivanfaigenbom5300 2 жыл бұрын
great video!
@MIHAO
@MIHAO 2 жыл бұрын
love the softube one
@vesalaasanen2158
@vesalaasanen2158 2 жыл бұрын
From Satin manual: • Internal sample rate: 352-384kHz (depends on project sample rate, 8 x oversampling 44.1kHz)
@Ob1knob
@Ob1knob 2 жыл бұрын
So how could you find any aliasing ?
@maus3454
@maus3454 2 жыл бұрын
5:05 You can use a MIDI controller with two dial-knobs in parallel. Like Arturia Keypad or NI Komplete M32 instead of a mouse.
@DennisPstudio
@DennisPstudio 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison 😊👍. If you dont want all the hazzle with a real tape machine, I can recommend the Neve 542's, that emulates tape saturation. These are the best hardware I have ever bought and gives so much weight to your sound 😊.
@troeteimarsch
@troeteimarsch 2 жыл бұрын
I love u-He Satin for its' capability to do the compander trick :)
@whytide.
@whytide. 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using TB Reelbus for awhile, it weirdly makes me feel more confident in my mixes. Don't think I could ever skip out on using a tape sim ever again.
@apolloc.vermouth5672
@apolloc.vermouth5672 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that one sounds the most convincing to me as well
@LukeSly91
@LukeSly91 Жыл бұрын
And its free. The v3 is anyways
@EzyoMusic
@EzyoMusic 6 ай бұрын
ReelBus is great. ToneBoosters is great in general.
@jhamPlays
@jhamPlays Жыл бұрын
I own TAIP and the default settings are super crunchy on the mix buss. If you turn the drive down to -3 to -6 db, turn the noise off, turn the glue down, and turn the hi.low shape up a bit, and you get a much more subtle effect on master. In this shootout, the glue setting is what I'm hearing and the glue setting is a really powerful tape compression knob, but it is set too high for a mix buss in this example.
@funkaforfan
@funkaforfan 10 ай бұрын
Holy shit dude that real tape machine DESTROYED some of my favorite plugins here. You wrecked my future!
@cholst1
@cholst1 2 жыл бұрын
All of the Chow plugins are amazing. Quite often using Tape, Matrix Delay and his Centaur clone. (his new "Build Your Own Distortion" plugin is also fun).
@wolfgangdevries127
@wolfgangdevries127 2 жыл бұрын
True dat 😀
@gratefulmusicsound8337
@gratefulmusicsound8337 2 жыл бұрын
Man, that hardware kill it!
@nicholasbohannan1673
@nicholasbohannan1673 2 жыл бұрын
I can tell a massive difference in your hardware unit and the plugins. On my system anyways. Holy cow!!
@mhavock
@mhavock 2 жыл бұрын
Good video ! Cut to tape.. SketchCassette ...the VST. I like it for quick design ideas.
@hcps2576
@hcps2576 2 жыл бұрын
The little spinning White Sea logo!!! 😃
@eddievanheinous666
@eddievanheinous666 2 жыл бұрын
I have the Softube and really like it, but DAMN your MCI sounds so much better.
@edwardtaylor556
@edwardtaylor556 Жыл бұрын
Back in the 80's, The thing that caught my attention about Reel to Reel's was the stereo field. You could close your eyes and point at the instruments in the sound field. I don't see that happening with a plugin. I have always listen to music with great speakers and tube amps and preamps.
@CubaseAcademy
@CubaseAcademy 2 жыл бұрын
Used a lot of tape emulator vst's, finally landed on the Softube Tape. Now my go to tape plugin, it just sounds good.
@gulagwarlord
@gulagwarlord 2 жыл бұрын
I think Chow sounds way better, download it and try.
@aviatedviewssound4798
@aviatedviewssound4798 Жыл бұрын
​@@gulagwarlordtape is more of a summing tape while chow is most a special effect tape, my favorites are softube tape and fuse audio labs flywheel.
@gulagwarlord
@gulagwarlord Жыл бұрын
@@aviatedviewssound4798 I've used them all, and I've tracked to real tape many times. Chow Tape is the most authentic emulation I've ever heard, and I don't mean as a special effect... Ik Multimedia is next, then Softube.
@aviatedviewssound4798
@aviatedviewssound4798 Жыл бұрын
@@gulagwarlord Are you sure you've used them with the correct settings, i also use real reel to reel tape. with the softube i had to put the stability to 99.9, the crosstalk to 50% and the amount to 10 as it is just a dry/wet knob then just back down the input and compensate with the output or even use the headroom to calibrate it. while with fly wheel i could do more even tho it needed a little more tweaking it gave me more warmth and vintage flavor. i like chow but it is so hard to get that vintage warmth color but the artifacts that tape has it emulates them very well and you can go to the extreme compare to others, who knows the tape machine that i like you probably wouldn't like them as i like a little bit of color or sheen to material.
@gulagwarlord
@gulagwarlord Жыл бұрын
@@aviatedviewssound4798 I'll try those settings for sure... I usually like tape for the fat saturation and compression profile it adds... not really for color. It adds a lot of loudness and tape compression seems to sound better to my ears than just trying to get 6 db of gain reduction on my bus compressor... but it really depends on the source material. I also like the way it makes drums seem to pop out of the speakers and hype up the sound of everything else. Try the Clean and Fat preset in Chow on some sources or even the 2-bus to hear what I mean. The sheen from the tape emulations usually seems to come from the built in eq and I used to get fooled by that but I prefer to do that with separate eq's. Cheers.
@Take-the-Ticket
@Take-the-Ticket 2 жыл бұрын
Your MCI sounded amazing for vocals in that it really put them in a position in the stereo field. Made it a bit boxy otherwise, but I would definitely look to that for vocals. Or maybe anything I really needed to put in a spot. It breathes well. None of the plugins really capture the life of it. The Softube sounded really natural and very analogue but didn't do anything "special" for me. It does bring the analogue "depth" so I would only use on the master, its best feature would get lost on individual mix elements. Slate Digital of course brought the pump. Can always count on them to do that. Chow sounded incredible all around, very smooth with great imaging. Satin - I can't believe I forgot about Satin. I've used it on SO many tracks. Like, so many. Ima get back to that in my mixes. tAIp...I guess it is a tape simulator, so it has that going for it. Or something.
@studiodude1
@studiodude1 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, Overloud Tape/Desk! Best I've found (so far).
@adriandonal
@adriandonal 2 жыл бұрын
I've tried every tape plugin listed here and UAD Ampex atr-102 is still the king 💪
@BretSnyderMusic
@BretSnyderMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. I haven't heard anything that beats it yet. It produces a lot of latency, but small price to pay for such a great sonic quality.
@tribalcowfish
@tribalcowfish 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised the UAD studer a800 wasn't among the most commented, that one seems to be one of the most popular.
@AlexPicciafuochiRainbox
@AlexPicciafuochiRainbox 2 жыл бұрын
I own the 3 UADs and I use Studer for more intense tape coloration and Ampex just for Mastering
@DJayFreeDoo
@DJayFreeDoo Жыл бұрын
the satin and soft tube plugins in this test were my favorites. I have neither so i use the slate one and its pretty good but sometimes i feel like it sounds a bit dry in a way.
@waedi73
@waedi73 2 жыл бұрын
Gravelflood from Rüpel the song, auto-gain compensation is a must, I 100% subscribe the shoutout ! Grea show !
@kapildhakde6050
@kapildhakde6050 9 ай бұрын
i love the Overloud Gem Tapedesk and Neold Warble. They sound great!!! 🤯
@lunacave
@lunacave 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, very helpful. Being I'm aware that you own a Tegeler Magnetismus, I'm wondering what your or anyone else's view is using it as opposed to a tape plugin?
@muzungu111
@muzungu111 2 жыл бұрын
Opinions on IK tape collection ? For me it is the most interesting, nice warm, glueing together emulation. The best what I ever tried.
@sirwanmusic
@sirwanmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I love real one sound and i love your opinion 😁
@user-xv8yg1li2t
@user-xv8yg1li2t 2 жыл бұрын
T-racks is the most natural emulation of this and you can test it by yourself just to try stereo sine wave through it and check natural phase distortions in oscilloscope on output. It's what you see while calibrating heads on real tape machines. Other ones does not have that and sound of that plugins often seems static. Besides, it has a pronounced glue effect. But, yea - slate sounds very, very cool.
@petefaders
@petefaders 2 жыл бұрын
Soft tube does something nice to the width. U-he gives a nice presence in the center.
@wrmusic8736
@wrmusic8736 2 жыл бұрын
Arturia Tape Mello-Fi, that they give away for free now, is one great sounding tape plugin actually. Because it's a very nice processing FX VST when used at its extreme settings. Maximum 'wear' at a drum bus is WOOOOOOOO
@homermao
@homermao 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you !! And what do you think about tape's simulations from Fabfilter 's Saturn 2 ??
@diegoalejo15
@diegoalejo15 2 жыл бұрын
Chow is one of the best plugins I know to get "lo fi" effects degrading the sound, it´s very complete and free!.
@ErebosGR
@ErebosGR 2 жыл бұрын
The Chow Tape Model does have presets. You should've used the TC-260 preset in your testing as a baseline. The default settings have everything turned off basically. Also, Chow's plugins are free AND open source, which puts them immediately head-n-shoulders above everything else that is proprietary and DRM-riddled.
@EversonBernardes
@EversonBernardes 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, it still applies the hysteresis model, but other than that, the "default" preset is pretty much an "ideal" tape - you get none of the smearing that attenuates the highs, the fattening from head bump, etc.
@gulagwarlord
@gulagwarlord 2 жыл бұрын
The Clean Fat preset is awesome.
@SenseiKreese
@SenseiKreese 10 ай бұрын
A lot more tape machine VST's have come onto the market from smaller developers, really need to do this shootout again with them.
@adisaikkonen
@adisaikkonen 2 жыл бұрын
According to Satin User Guide, version 1.2 has 8x oversampling. This seems to be on by default with no option to turn it off.
@thehivecolin
@thehivecolin 2 жыл бұрын
I have most of these plugs, and use them all for different purposes. The T-Racks is unquestionably the best sounding one of the ones I own as it is the most naturally transparent and most similar to my 2" machine. Real tape machines are set it and forget it... So I don't really understand the argument that you need to be able to get in there and change settings and have automatic level compensation... That actually isn't a reflection of the real world, as nice as that would be to have in a plug-in. Both the Softtube and the Slate I've used for many years now and now they're relegated to duties when I want something to get obviously warmed up or dulled down, which they do very well.
@JakobGille2
@JakobGille2 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say that I barely heard any difference between the plugins when listening with closed eyes (I listened with the extremely resolving Sennheiser HD800 headphones). Without a blind listening test we have to be extremely careful to not get biased from the interface, the manufacture we like and thus expect better sound or just the simple fact that we expect a change when we see the next plugin playing. Maybe a follow-up blind listening test could be interesting :)
@Johnnylaurelli
@Johnnylaurelli 2 жыл бұрын
This.
@garfieldadamsakaj.stemmons364
@garfieldadamsakaj.stemmons364 2 жыл бұрын
couldn't agree with this more. I think in this world we live in today, the tools are NOT the issue. not saying my ears are the best, but while I can hear VERY subtle differences, they aren't so far apart that one vs. another will make or break a mix. want control? get THAT one. want less options? get THAT one. but they ALL sound great to my ears. so agreed that we have to be careful with manufacturer/developer and GUI bias when measuring these things. because when I closed my eyes, all I was thinking was "great sound and great mix"!
@ktech4246
@ktech4246 2 жыл бұрын
I thought I was the only one! With only careful listening the only thing i could tell was the crunch of the snare but honestly that's because I was looking for difference otherwise I wouldn't have known
@peternorth6782
@peternorth6782 Жыл бұрын
Thats because they are all exactly the same, same coding same shite.If you look 'under the hood' of these, they are digit for digit identical. Fact
@smiksmagger3446
@smiksmagger3446 Жыл бұрын
Listen closely to what it does to the snare! Especially his analog tape machine makes it warm and when you switch to TAIP it makes it more harsh and less warm, same for the Slate one. Would've been better to just loop the same part for comparison though
@MichaelHattem
@MichaelHattem 2 жыл бұрын
I've tried a bunch over the last few years (Tape, J37, KMT, VTM, etc...). Recently I've been using UAD Studer on every track and IK's 440 on the mixbus. For "mastering," I still use UAD's ATR-102.
@thecapsicumkid4740
@thecapsicumkid4740 2 жыл бұрын
Taipei by London acoustics is my current favourite for tone. But Fabfilter Saturn is also amazing for tone and saturation.
@marmotman
@marmotman 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the inclusion of wow and flutter is more for sound design and creative production. I'm a big fan of the IK tapes, primarily the 80 which is truly awesome. Also surprised that neither the old faithfuls from Waves aren't here! Both the J37 and Kramer have their places in the toolbox.
@101Licious
@101Licious 10 ай бұрын
Surprised too. J37 and Kramer Master Tape are awesome.
@karma133
@karma133 2 жыл бұрын
I picked a clear winner- the one with the purple spools. Then I realised that your "real" tape machine was in the shootout. The Softube was my favourite from the rest. I agree with another comment here that the Slate can sound a bit harsh (as can the T-Racks) On this track the U-He sounds less punchy than the rest. Difficult to tell with just one track.
@mrnelsonius5631
@mrnelsonius5631 2 жыл бұрын
The T Racks 80 (Studer A80) is phenomenal. I’ve never done a direct A/B but years ago I made a record through a Studer A80 and the IK version feels soooo much like it to me. The Softube gets used on every single production I do, usually on individual elements I want to “de-digitize” and add some syrup to. It’s just a nice sounding plug-in
@GloveBunniesVideos
@GloveBunniesVideos 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using the Waves J37 plugin for a while, and I'm able to get a nice warm distortion with it. Not sure how close it is to the actual Abbey Road machine, but it's useful anyway. Great on a master bus after the compressor to "glue" it all together.
@drillgirl718
@drillgirl718 2 жыл бұрын
yep i love the j37, it is used on alot of migos, cardi b , and other records by tillie, leslie brathwaite, etc for their big records
@putte_stuttgart
@putte_stuttgart 2 жыл бұрын
Tried them all, and yes, I agree with all of you here: Taipei from London Acoustics is the one. ;)
@rebazkh85
@rebazkh85 2 жыл бұрын
You can use automatic gain match plugin for the plug-ins with no built-in gain match.
@Fwuzeem
@Fwuzeem Жыл бұрын
My personal favourite I have used on all my tracks is 37J by Tim Petherick for Nebula
@mfkrwill
@mfkrwill Жыл бұрын
did you ever make a video going over the group settings and stuff on tape plugins like VTM? I would be interested in that if you havent
@constantinelifts4935
@constantinelifts4935 2 жыл бұрын
What about magnetite by black rooster audio? it sounds amazing to me and it also has a volume compensation if you hold the right click an turn the input knob!
@breezyoakk
@breezyoakk 2 жыл бұрын
„You can use the same screwdriver on both“ I was like huh??? 😂😂
@gregg4058
@gregg4058 2 жыл бұрын
I love waves Cramer tape. I can use it as delay. Or just add that warm tape sound to guitar plugins. It rocks. Hard to beat for 29 bucks.
@phillipdrummond
@phillipdrummond Жыл бұрын
Kiive Audio’s Tape Face vs. Tape by Softube etc? I use Softube on the master bus on every beat I make and on the drum bus on its drum bus preset and it makes drums BANG. I also use Taip on a lot of my beats and will run Taip and Softube on drum breaks, sometimes drum bus of programmed drums.
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