Who are Aegon Targaryen's Allies?

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Who is loyal to Aegon Targaryen and the Hightowers? Who has sided with Rhaenyra and Daemon? And who has yet to choose between Black and Green? Contains NO spoilers for House of the Dragon Season 2.
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TIME STAMPS:
00:00 - The Green Council
02:35 - Team Green
04:47 - Team Black
05:22 - Daemonscaped
05:45 - The Undecided
07:03 - The Wildcards
"House of the Dragon is an American fantasy drama television series. A prequel to Game of Thrones (2011-2019), it is the second show in the franchise, created by George R. R. Martin and Ryan Condal for HBO. Both series are based on the A Song of Ice and Fire novels by Martin. Condal and Miguel Sapochnik are the showrunners. Based on parts of the novel Fire & Blood, the series is set about 200 years before the events of Game of Thrones, and 172 years before the birth of Daenerys Targaryen. It portrays the beginning of the end of House Targaryen, the events leading up to and covering the Targaryen war of succession, known as the "Dance of the Dragons"
"Game of Thrones is an American fantasy drama television series created by David Benioff and D. B. Weiss for HBO. It is an adaptation of A Song of Ice and Fire, a series of fantasy novels by George R. R. Martin, the first of which is A Game of Thrones. Set on the fictional continents of Westeros and Essos, Game of Thrones has a large ensemble cast and follows several story arcs throughout the course of the show. The first major arc concerns the Iron Throne of the Seven Kingdoms of Westeros through a web of political conflicts among the noble families either vying to claim the throne or fighting for independence from whoever sits on it. A second focuses on the last descendant of the realm's deposed ruling dynasty, who has been exiled to Essos and is plotting to return and reclaim the throne. The third follows the Night's Watch, a military order defending the realm against threats from beyond Westeros's northern border."
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@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

The long-awaited sequel to my Team Black video. Enjoy! TIME STAMPS: 00:00 - The Green Council 02:35 - Team Green 04:47 - Team Black 05:22 - Daemonscaped 05:45 - The Undecided 07:03 - The Wildcards

@drrohanjacob Жыл бұрын

Ah the soon to be extinct team green

@crusader2112 Жыл бұрын

I’m green because the Baratheons are on their side. Our is the Fury!

@pg1448 Жыл бұрын

I'm Green because of the Lannisters, Brackens and Peakes. Whoever got these formidable houses on their side and not another cringe Stark, Tully, Arryn coalition (or god forbid the Blackwoods) must be in the right.

@WisteriaNerium Жыл бұрын

@@pg1448 Blackwoods are the OC donut steel of Westerosi houses.

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

@@pg1448 It is funny how George made all of the "bad guy" Houses support the Greens

@J10005 6 ай бұрын

Lord Bormunds son is a snake

@hazeinheaven 3 ай бұрын

@@J10005 no it was the most profitable choice for his house and he didnt swore any oath he didnt owe loyalty

@SvenskaKrig1709 Жыл бұрын

Aemond has to be my favorite. You can't just put an anime villain in the show like that and expect me to not love him.

@Ch50304 Жыл бұрын

Yup he is a total anime villian, soon will get monologues.

@ilovemesomme 10 ай бұрын

Daeron the Daring is the best Green.

@steelnation5110 Жыл бұрын

A thing to remember about Orwyle is that he SAYS he was peer pressured into it, when he’s recounting the events while imprisoned and facing possible execution. So his participation in the coup could well in fact have been as willing as it’s portrayed in the show, and he just later lies about this while being interrogated.

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

That's true actually

@johnpotts8308 Жыл бұрын

I don't think we know how long afterward it was written. With the benefit of hindsight, "clearly" the side that won out was in the right and the side that lost was in the wrong and any inconvenient facts that contradict that will be ignored.

@aaroncohen2700 Жыл бұрын

@@johnpotts8308 but no side won the dance. You could say the Blacks got an heir on the Iron Throne but both sides decimated each other to such a degree that the only ones left were children.

@wimbusbert1249 Жыл бұрын

Team Black: Sends a child on an international flight by himself to a place called "The Stormlands," Also Team Black: Gets all mad when he dies

@seda6968 Жыл бұрын

That's one way to put it, and a weak one.

@pg1448 Жыл бұрын

Also sends a underage boy based on his alleged Baratheon kinship that everyone knows to be a farce to negotiate an alliance with this prickly and proud lord with nothing else to offer except for a reminder of his father's oath. She sends Luke and his tiny dragon knowing that the Greens have Vaghar and also sent terms to Storms End instead of Rhaenys, who has actual Baratheon blood and rides a fearsome beast that could make an impression. Yeah Rhaenyra is a diplomatic genius.

@equusquaggaquagga536 Жыл бұрын

It's a diplomatic mission where no one was to be harmed

@wimbusbert1249 Жыл бұрын

@@equusquaggaquagga536 you know they don't let you take off a small plane if it's even a little windy, right?

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

It certainly shows Rhaenyra's naivety/arrogance in not providing Lord Borros with any actual terms

@Argos-xb8ek Жыл бұрын

That's the tragedy of Aegon II his allies see him as nothing but a pawn an afterthought in their schemes which is why I root for Aegon II The man who will do things on his own terms

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

There's a reason Otto and Alicent aren't rallying behind Aemond instead - he would be too difficult to control

@Thrawn23. 4 ай бұрын

@@fantasyhaven1Are they not rallying behind Aemond because he killed Luke or was he to difficult to control before that?

@hazeinheaven 3 ай бұрын

@@Thrawn23. hes always been wild and had his own ways, aegon is more listener and thats why I think aegon would be a good ruler with alicent and otto and the help of aemond than aemond even though Im an aemond stan.

@Thrawn23. 3 ай бұрын

@@hazeinheaven I thought it was the other way around and Aemond was easier to control from the start then Aegon was. Alicent has an influence on both of them but not at the same decree

@hazeinheaven 3 ай бұрын

@@Thrawn23. in the books its aegon who listens, in show its aemond who listens but not too much on aegon, he actually listened alicent and sent peace terms to rhaenyra instead listening otto's execution plan. aemond became wild by time in the show, while in the book he was ''half the size of aegon but twice the fierce, bold, hot tempered, willful and unforgiving'' from the start

@JamesHatfield49 Жыл бұрын

My Grandson’s allies are the true and brave houses of Westeros! He is the rightful king, and despite the disadvantages of a very powerful rebel faction around Rhaenyra, they have stayed loyal to their king 💛💚👑🤴

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

I love how your profile picture changes every time you comment haha

@JamesHatfield49 Жыл бұрын

@@fantasyhaven1 gotta stay fresh. Can’t let people catch on. Next time it’ll be different again. Got to make our faction seem bigger than it is 😅😂

@ilbb7055 Жыл бұрын

Also your grandson Aegon ii presented as so inspiring that he turns Rhaenyras men who have been sworn to her since aegon was a babe against her whilst he was crippled and easily capturable, allowing him to conquer the ancient House of Targaryens: Dragonstone

@JamesHatfield49 Жыл бұрын

@@ilbb7055 Not to mention that the smallfolk and minor lords almost to a man prefer His Grace. If nobody had dragons, I could be fairly sure that the Greens would have won easily.

@mrsdixon3524 Жыл бұрын

King Rapey 😂

@QuinnTheGM Жыл бұрын

Gotta respect the Ironrod. Also our main man Vaegon, who will hopefully pop up in season 2.

@marcusbierman5310 Жыл бұрын

29 Kids by 4 wives!

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

I'd love a Vaegon cameo so much

@Thrawn23. Ай бұрын

Probably not till season 3 since they are not introducing Daeron yet

@azmariakarol2225 Жыл бұрын

Tyland Lannister was absolutely great, did more damage than 100 Cregan Starks

@Isuream6331 8 ай бұрын

Yeah, that treasury move probably did the most damage to the blacks out of anything the greens did

@hazeinheaven 3 ай бұрын

@@Isuream6331 singlehandedly led rhaenyra's fall in the long run just another example of why the greens are superior lol

@danielmelo5477 Жыл бұрын

We light the way🟢

@user-ti5cw1ug6l Жыл бұрын

Such cool house words especially since they are the religious and academic center of Westeros housing both the Starry Sept and the Citadel. They literally light the way out of ignorance and depravity.

@equusquaggaquagga536 Жыл бұрын

For the night is dark and full of terrors

@yusufraage8554 Жыл бұрын

To our graves....

@Tormund_Giantsbrain Жыл бұрын

The "overwhelming superiority" in support of Rhaenrya was a mirage, since the three most populous kingdoms with the most wealth and resources supported Aegon (yes the Reach was half and half, but Honeywine effectively ended all Black activity there for the duration of the war). Counting the wealth of the Reach or the Westerlands or the population of the Crownlands is as critical if not more critical than head counting the 58 or something Lords that supported Rhaenerya, many of whom were from smaller lands and had smaller hosts.

@pg1448 Жыл бұрын

Also it just comes down to weak writing. The whole Dance is full of contrived writing, but what especially irked me is that some reach houses closely tied to the Hightowers such as Costayne or Tarly decide to go to war against their own kin or liege lords to support frickin Rhaenyra and Daemon on remote Dragonstone. But at the same time Westerlanders and some Riverlanders with no ties to the Hightowers do fight for Aegon. That just makes no sense. The sole reason the whole Reach doesn't back Aegon is that a united Reach, Westerlands and Stormlands faction would obliterate the North and Riverlands easily.

@yusufraage8554 Жыл бұрын

@@pg1448 Maybe they were loyal to Viserys I wishes I would be.

@Tormund_Giantsbrain Жыл бұрын

@@pg1448 Yeah I guess it's probably cause f&b was being written as a timeline of events, right. After a few major houses, George probably didn't give too much thought on the motivations and reasons for where the loyalty of a household would lie. He most likely pulled random names out of the hat and then backfilled. Which inevitably creates an issue on fielding sides for the battles in a realistic way. Personally I'm not a huge stickler for logistical realism. I'm fine with logistics taking a backseat to themes and symbolism within reason. But even I could not help notice the Army of the Riverlands when led by Kermit Tully, son of Elmo (lmao George wasn't even trying with the names) suddenly went from the historical punching bag of Westeros to this Avengers Assemble squad with insane plot armor that kept respawning and was apparently the reason for every Black victory everywhere in the map. I guess the best Riverlands commanders were born a couple hundred years too early. If only they were around for the war of the five kings.

@Argos-xb8ek Жыл бұрын

@@pg1448 More like a couple of Reach houses didn't like seeing House Hightower become the most powerful house in Westeros.

@joke_d 9 ай бұрын

@@Argos-xb8ek I guess kinda this. Also with their liege lord Tyrell remaining neutral and not taking part the rest of the Reach might have lacked a true unifying figure under the Greens of Aegon II.

@debamlyabanerjee4067 Жыл бұрын

True king of westros

@MassiveMan365 Жыл бұрын

Orwyle was probably a part of the coup in the books his account of events was written while imprisoned by aegon III he was probably trying to ingratiate himself to the new ruling dynasty

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

Good point

@Ecks3112 12 күн бұрын

If I see sponsors I upvote. No sponsor no vote. But only your sponsors. Keep up the great work.

@TalionOswaldCostanza 13 күн бұрын

I love the style of your videos. They are easy to understand, but they are also very funny at the same time.

@diaperfang5293 Жыл бұрын

Here we go, caught this early too. Always a banger with this channel.

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@zacharymartin4683 Жыл бұрын

My favorite member of Team Green is Aemond. Gotta love a Manga villain.

@ilovemesomme 10 ай бұрын

Daeron is a good lad, had no other choice given his older brothers.

@hazeinheaven 3 ай бұрын

@@ilovemesomme my boy won 2 battles singlehandedly at 14

@Thrawn23. Ай бұрын

@@hazeinheavenYea he didn't even need help from the 2 betrayers but im sure he welcomed it

@hazeinheaven Ай бұрын

@@Thrawn23. he didnt need them in the first tumbleton but he still made them switch sides for the greens. and after he realized they're going wild and uncontrollable he signed their assasination letter himself unlike the blacks who expected them to be loyal to the blacks and he got them assasinated successfully.

@hazeinheaven Ай бұрын

@@Thrawn23. he didnt need them in the first tumbleton

@adambarleyii3357 Жыл бұрын

Good breakdown

@Alduin_el_Compadre Жыл бұрын

I'm team Green. Because Baratheons said we team green. So i Said team Green

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

I have no complaints

@Miller09095 Жыл бұрын

I'm just Green for the Blue Queen Tessarion and Daeron the Daring.

@Lumistrocity Жыл бұрын

I hope they have him riding on tesarion for his ending and not some rando

@realdaggerman105 Жыл бұрын

Every Daeron in history has been a chad.

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

I'm working on a video about Team Green dragons for next week 👀

@natedogg890 Жыл бұрын

The Iron Islands seem like they are essentially more like an occupied and hostile territory than an actual region of the realm.

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

They're a strange part of the lore ngl

@LordProtectorPepper Жыл бұрын

I could totally see dorne siding with team black as well, if they get to them first and use the whole female ruler angle since princess nymeria is a beloved figure in dorne

@ilovemesomme 10 ай бұрын

Dorne is allied with the Triarchy, and Corlys and Daemon warred against them...

@maxmustermann9058 Жыл бұрын

I am slightly more sympathetic to Team Green, because Viserys being the legitimate king is based off the Great Council deciding in favour of male primogeniture, which in addition to common law would make Aegon the rightful king. Rhaenyra's obvious bastards were also certain to cause conflict down the line. It's kind of crazy how enormously Rhaenyra fumbled the bag despite having unlimited support of a popular king, far more dragons, more big gun houses (Minor Spoiler: Stark, Velaryon, Arryn, Tully, Tyrell vs Lannister, Baratheon, Hightower) and many agents in the enemy camp. Aegon is awful, but he is young with potential for change and Alicent's son, Rhaenyra went out of her way to marry a cartoon villain in Daemon, who has been laughably evil for many decades. Obviously neither side is right, but watching Rhaenyra is like watching someone lose on easy mode in a game. Alicent is probably my favorite green, because of how limited and conflicted she is, while still doing everything to save her family and having both a lot of reasonable criticisms of the Blacks, as well as personal hang ups. Then again I also like Larys for the opposite reasons lol.

@equusquaggaquagga536 Жыл бұрын

"big gun houses"? Velaryons were annihilated, Starks and Arryns took too long to assemble, Tullys had to be coerced and Tyrrels were neutral

@ilovemesomme 10 ай бұрын

Rhaenyra has 2 true born sons, Aegon and Viserys..

@hazeinheaven Ай бұрын

@@ilovemesomme which neither of them were her heir. them being legit doesnt change a thing when the first 3 bastards still alive.

@totticosta2977 Жыл бұрын

hahaha I didn't realised your ads were jokes until now, sorry for skiping man it's just muscle memory at this point, Im probably going to rewatch your videos anyway so I wont skip them next time

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

It's all in good fun :)

@sardonically-inclined7645 Жыл бұрын

Aemond. Always Aemond. Then Otto. If we were talking books, Alicent before Otto.

@vayne-he9yi Жыл бұрын

If we're talking books then Aemond is even less competent and suited to be king than Aegon. The writing team just had their personal favorites and tried to add depth/sympathy to their favorites, while scapegoating others like Aegon to make Aemond/Alicent look better. They pretty much whitewashed those two and then made Aegon into a cartoon villain/Joffrey 2.0 so he's universally hated and everyone supports Rhaenyra while still allowing their favorite greens in Alicent/Aemond to be fan favorites. Book Aegon is honestly a top 3 character in the dance, it's really frustrating how his character got destroyed by the showrunners. The whitewashing backfired on both sides, because I'd argue book Alicent is a more compelling character because she has agency and leads the green council in the book.

@chadsummerchild1120 Жыл бұрын

Team Gaemon Pale Hair

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

The One True King of Westeros

@MrOK-yb3rw Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget the fleets of the paxters and the redwines

@ridhoirvan1070 Жыл бұрын

I thought Aegon's banners were a golden dragon

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

We see the golden banner during Aegon's coronation in the show - but when Otto arrives at Dragonstone in Episode 10, Ser Erryk announces that his boat is flying "a green three-headed dragon". So I'm assuming the gold banner is Aegon's personal sigil in HOTD

@Aemond2024 Жыл бұрын

@@fantasyhaven1why dont you use it? Are you a black propagandist?

@DuTube333 Жыл бұрын

I love the figure of Lord Grover at 5:55 beacuse he has absolutely coincidentally the same name as the Sesame Street character. If by any chance we see HotD characters in the future who are coincidentally named in a similar way, please do continue. Not that something like that will probably happen... I mean, what names would Ernie Tully or Cookie Monster Tully be?

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I couldn't resist

@PackLeader-1990 Жыл бұрын

At first I thought this was a video about Young Griff lol. Now i see that this is a HotD video I can say that he truly didn't have many allies since he was poisoned shortly after naming Aegon Dragon's bane as his heir.

@Mygurlist Жыл бұрын

Came here for the anime prince, stayed for these videos sponsors

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed

@Enclave2043 9 ай бұрын

Go Greens!

@undramulziinyam3725 Жыл бұрын

The TRUE King of Westeros

@Rhaenyssupporter Жыл бұрын

mushroom

@JonathanVegaa Жыл бұрын

Traitor

@byun1119 Жыл бұрын

Fook outta here, I king V wanted his daughter as the ruler, kings word is law. I think male rulers are generally better but Aegon is degen

@WeirwoodNet Жыл бұрын

🤮

@leonardoherrera9059 Жыл бұрын

@@byun1119 king word ain't law otherwise Maegor would still be king instead of jaehaereyes you need support as well and as you can see rhaenera lacks it.

@mrman9977 Жыл бұрын

What's with the green dragon? I remember hearing them saying that in the one episode, but was the banner behind him in the coranation not a dark gold? I thought the green comment was a misstake.

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

I think Aegon's sigil is gold, and Otto's sigil is green. Either one could be the official Green coat of arms

@mrman9977 Жыл бұрын

@@fantasyhaven1 I find it strange that Otto would take a Targaryen symbol as his own. I think it's a mistake tbh, I don't think such a sigil is mentioned anywhere else, correct me if I'm wrong.

@AlgrenTheBlue Жыл бұрын

Great video! Love that you left out spoilers for peeps who haven't read Fire & Blood, they're going to be in for such a treat in next seasons #TeamBlack

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, and yeah I'll always have a spoiler warning

@gandhimohandaszkaramcsand2634 10 ай бұрын

Aemond 💪😎

@Mink-yu8nu 7 ай бұрын

2:22 Love the HOTD take on the famous Sophia Loren & Jane Mansfield photo!

@Spongebrain97 Жыл бұрын

Do you think we'll have an episode in season 2 soley focused on the Starks with Jace trying to win over Cregan?

@thegoat4238 Жыл бұрын

I mean they kinda have too,considering if they just leave it out it’ll be weird once they show the ending of dance which cregan is a big part of.

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

There's too much going on for us to have episodes set in just one place - but I hope Jace's storylines in the Vale and the North have time to breathe

@lonemotheomatshaba9640 Жыл бұрын

It's funny how Otto thought that no one in westoros would support Rhaenyra when most of realm was Black during the dance

@sydnitheromantictaylor112 Жыл бұрын

So true, she had twice as many house supporting her over Aegon

@mizzy5193 Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately the regions she gathered strength from were the less populous and wealthy in the realm, maybe bar the Vale

@equusquaggaquagga536 Жыл бұрын

The North and the Vale were too slow be of any use

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

Causing a civil war to prevent a civil war...

@AaronGuest Жыл бұрын

Weak writing bruh.

@ChaosLierLen Жыл бұрын

I know it won't happen, but here's wishing a long and prosperous reign to King Aemond.

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

Long live the King

@OgnjenDzamic-bp2cs Жыл бұрын

Green

@connorlehnert2994 Жыл бұрын

Man i completely forgot about this show with TLoU

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

HOTD, TLoU, Succession - HBO's been pumping out some bangers recently

@justadjustor8993 Жыл бұрын

Thailand Lannister heheh

@willrundle2 3 ай бұрын

I just want the red kraken in hotd

@negiji8102 Жыл бұрын

So from now I am gonna comment interesting on every video I watch. I know no one gives a fuck but whatever. Interesting

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

Interesting.

@anupnormie5099 Жыл бұрын

@@fantasyhaven1 Love your videos man. Just asking if you would make videos on Asoiaf lore or history??

@negiji8102 Жыл бұрын

@@fantasyhaven1 You should make shorts about Hotd or Asoiaf lore.

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, this channel is gonna focus on animated fantasy lore (mostly Asoiaf) like my House Frey video

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

Good idea!

@jimwell5608 11 ай бұрын

Aegon is naught but a usurper.. but, by the laws of gods & men, the crown SHOULD have been his. Viserys defied centuries of tradition, tradition that had made him King in the first place. Rhaenyra is the True Heir but Aegon is the Rightful Heir. Viserys should have called a Great Council like the wise Jahaerys.

@BananLord Жыл бұрын

Which houses do you think will go extinct in Winds?

@newportspapi7174 Жыл бұрын

House LANNISTER

@BananLord Жыл бұрын

@@newportspapi7174 that's an obvious one, but there's the 2nd branch of the Lannister house

@newportspapi7174 Жыл бұрын

@@BananLord true, I think House Baratheon is also pretty likely. Excluding Roberts bastards

@BananLord Жыл бұрын

@@newportspapi7174 if things go bad, the Greyjoys are gonna go poof

@joeyeardley4002 Жыл бұрын

In Winds? None. By the end of ASOIAF, The Targaryens have a good chance of going extinct, and maaaaybe the Tullys. Otherwise I think the other houses are too large or secure. A few more of them I could see being dispossessed of their lands though - Greyjoys, Lannisters, Martells and Tyrells are all at risk here. I'm pretty sure the Arryns, Baratheons and Starks are safe as ruling dynasties

@sealdude5581 Жыл бұрын

DARKLING SCHEMES

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

D a r k l i n g

@ToucanBinks Жыл бұрын

👍

@Dazz3rz450 Жыл бұрын

Ahhhh just remembering that there genuinely people who are taking sides in this, which is fine, but can’t acknowledge the terrible things their faves have done and will do.

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, people need to chill and remember that it's just a fantasy show

@martinlisitsata 11 ай бұрын

ok am i missing a meme here why its always said BEEEESbury

@rjsamking8224 Жыл бұрын

Well - 1000

@anneristeyn5256 9 ай бұрын

Both

@sydneysilver1965 Жыл бұрын

💚Queen Helena💚

@mr.apptoidgamer3875 Жыл бұрын

First Comment!

@shivlad6229 2 ай бұрын

Got :"Maybe the ture losers are the riverlands that died along the "I have not read fire and blood ,according geography of westors riverlanders cooked

@alecshockowitz8385 Жыл бұрын

I thought it was that the Tyrells took power after the Targaryens were deposed?

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

Nah they took power after Aegon's Conquest

@turtleguyfan Жыл бұрын

the Tyrells were granted Highgarden by Aegon after the original holders, the Gardeners (who the Tyrells were Stewards for) were wiped out by Aegon in the Field of Fire.

@tobias..6688 Жыл бұрын

Algorithm

@ektazija Жыл бұрын

more algorhythm, my braincell can't think of a smart comment except that i like anything this guy drops

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

@@ektazija Thanks! You're awesome

@Qbgarden Жыл бұрын

Blacks should combine dragons and fleet and sack Casterly rock then Old Town and THEN lay seige to the capital. Done.

@Rhaenyssupporter Жыл бұрын

Luckily house Frey keeps their oaths

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

The Freys of old were a lot more... honourable

@sydnitheromantictaylor112 Жыл бұрын

It's crazy how most of Westeros even though she's a woman and had bastards, Otto assumed most of the continent wouldn't support her because of those reasons but he underestimated Westeros.

@hudsonlewer7486 Жыл бұрын

Well one thing I don’t think is really brought up is the fact that most of the Lords were in fact sworn to her she had spent a fuck ton of her early years traveling around the realm making diplomatic visits to different castles and houses while Otto might believe that people don’t like her that’s not necessarily the truth so I think it gives a little bit less credence to Otto‘s initial plot to try and overtake the throne if not for him there probably wouldn’t have been conflict to begin with

@sydnitheromantictaylor112 Жыл бұрын

@@hudsonlewer7486 yeah Otto's greed is what caused everything and I didn't know Rhaenyra ever did any royal progresses, I know she did to find a suitor but that's all I know about

@hudsonlewer7486 Жыл бұрын

@@sydnitheromantictaylor112 Yeah so essentially her tour to find a suitor happened during like a two year long procession where she went around the entire kingdom many lords and heirs directly pledged to her during this which didn’t even have to do with the oath of fealty they swore to her when her father named her heir ( this is all taken from the book material but they did show a little bit of it with the suitors in StormsEnd

@bonzibuddy4483 Жыл бұрын

I think your fake sponsorships are just barely realistic enough to trick ad-skip browser extensions. This is hilarious, and sad. I really like the running gag.

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

Holy shit that might be it

@olsaaan Жыл бұрын

Breastplate stretcher NOW!!!

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

N O W

@kieranantonio623 Жыл бұрын

Team Green !!!!! 😂😂😂

@christophergirardi8145 Жыл бұрын

That would imply the king himself isn't a pawn lol

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

Very good point. There's a reason Otto is pushing for Aegon and not Aemond

@ilbb7055 Жыл бұрын

@@fantasyhaven1 Because Aegon is the first-born son of the King? Lmao Pushing Aemond over Aegon would dumb af. First because it would kill entirely the Green cause and 101 Council's precedent. Second, not noble House would support Aemond over Aegon or Rhaenyra or their legitimate sons( Jaehaerys or Aegon the younger). Plus,on the book Aegon was the politically smarter brother,much more than Aemond.

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

It wouldn't kill the Green cause - a male would still be inheriting the throne ahead of a female which is what matters. And yeah, if Aegon were to abdicate, nobles would absolutely switch to Aemond. Aegon willingly wants to leave. They would also accept Aemond jumping ahead of Aegon's children for pragmatic purposes - it's better to rally behind an adult warrior with a giant dragon over a child during a time of crisis. And yeah you're right about the book. Aemond is just a psycho in Fire and Blood, while in the show he seems to be a learner man as well as a warrior

@James44V Жыл бұрын

The traitors of the realm

@BlackSteelKeyChain Жыл бұрын

Traitors

@rohaankhan7523 Жыл бұрын

Yayyyy it's here 🤩🤩🤩 (And I'm late to it but still yayyy)

@fantasyhaven1 Жыл бұрын

Hope you enjoyed!

@rohaankhan7523 Жыл бұрын

@@fantasyhaven1 i obviously did ☺️(⁠◕⁠ᴗ⁠◕⁠✿⁠)

@MrMarek19 Жыл бұрын

True queen forever f.... o.... eagon Easy to rule for otto

@joshtedmanson6078 Жыл бұрын

Team Black for me. Idk why people preach gender precedence, the council of 101 was a vote between candidates, not gender. Succession is often messy, and there was never a firm rule. Named heirs have been far more common than a lot of the characters (and fans) seem to remember. More recent to the main story Aerys wished to set aside Rhaegar and name Viserys, and prior to the dance Maegor had named the Princess Aerea. In the case of the dance (hotd), Rhaenyra has more Targaryen blood, and the greens tried supplanting her before her own heirs and questions about their legitimacy. If anything, prior to the green coup, precedence for succession landed on those with the strongest bloodline (that too was the named heir). In reality, succession went to the strength of arms.

@yusufraage8554 Жыл бұрын

The council was because Jaehaerys I didnt have the balls to say he didnt want a women on the throne so he yielded his responsibility to lesser men and they chose wrong. A king with absolute power lets lords who were conquered by his grandsir decide who will rule the realm. In my opinion the end of the Targaryens started with Jaehaerys I because of that council, if only he chose one or the other atleast the realm would know that the king makes the decisions.

@joshtedmanson6078 Жыл бұрын

@@yusufraage8554 I must've missed that part in all the books and histories :S lol Jaehaerys (the conciliator) knew how to rule, a king that understood the power of able advisors. He had no clear heir, and indecision would have resulted in war. "Wrong" decision would have put the Targaryens offside with any number of powers within the continent. Putting the decision on the lords is an incredibly wise move - it keeps the subjects loyal to the ruling family, keeps possible threats rivals to each other and not the royals, and the decision made is extremely hard to argue with when they all hard a part in deciding. The only mistake in it, one could say, is allowing and trusting the maesters to collect, collate and count the votes without corruption

@yusufraage8554 Жыл бұрын

@@joshtedmanson6078 He made all the Targaryens after him weak by making people who were conquered by his grandfather choose his heir. If you can’t see how that is a problem then……

@joshtedmanson6078 Жыл бұрын

@@yusufraage8554 how is that a problem, and how were future Targaryens weaker after it? After the reign of Jaehaerys, Dorne was briefly conquered by force, then brought into the realm with diplomacy. Multiple pretenders and their rebellions were put down, foreign would-be invaders were stopped before even treading foot on Westerosi soil, and the "Last Targaryens" (minus Daenerys/Viserys) whilst mad as hell still commanded the loyalty of over half the realm. If anything, the Targaryens rule was consolidated by the council. If not for the council, there could have very easily been a Baratheon, Valeryon or even an Arryn dynasty rise and take the throne.