Who Can Climb 1000m Faster?

Who Can Climb 1000m Faster? | Road Vs MTB

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It's been a while since we've taken on GCN in a challenge so we've invited the big man Conor Dunne to our stomping ground, the Forest of Dean for a vertical kilometre challenge! What goes up must come down and Rich hopes that a lightweight XC hardtail and familiar descents work in his favour as he strives to put out a bigger VAM number than our lycra-clad counterparts!
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00:00 - Setting Up The Challenge
01:04 - VAM Challenge
16:39 - Who Climbed 1000 Metres Faster? MTB or Road?
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1000 likes gets part 2 where Conor and Rich will switch up the location and the bikes to hash it out over another 1000 vertical meters in the saddle.
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@gmbn 14 күн бұрын

1000 likes gets part 2 where Conor and Rich will switch up the location and the bikes to hash it out over another 1000 vertical meters in the saddle.

@Lulliger 14 күн бұрын

Yes, 1154 likes!!!😁

@Natuh21 12 күн бұрын

Make them race the same hills, 1 tarmac, 1 trail (mtb territory) and 1 compact gravel. And lets see what wins, ligher bike OR better gearing. I could climb the hills nearby better on my 10kg road/urban bike than my 12kg mtb or my 14kg gravel. But those are short and steep so pushing hard its much easier.

@FloppyWaffle 11 күн бұрын

When's race day?

@martinmckowen1588 10 күн бұрын

Gas meters? Or metres 😊👍🏻

@mellissanash7517 2 күн бұрын

Wouldn't it have been better if Rich did it on the rigid Orbea XC bike?

@HighresROBERT 7 күн бұрын

As someone who rides in Colorado..... the fact they have to do laps to hit 1000m is cracking me up.🤣

@vasiliipopov416 11 күн бұрын

The funniest thing about this challenge is the "MTB" terrain looks perfectly rideable on 32c road tyres

@kezzah9415 9 күн бұрын

i mean the pushup is a fire road and hes going down a flow trail tbf

@alinapopescu872 14 күн бұрын

Get Dr. Bridgewood to represent GCN in a climbing challenge and the situation will be completely different.

@phillee9651 14 күн бұрын

Bridgewood .. MK 2 ..

@chrisridesbicycles 13 күн бұрын

Feather!

@izi941 13 күн бұрын

Sure it depends mainly on the rider….but generally speaking, MTBs are more suitable for uphill than road bikes. And MTBkers make daily much more elevation and much steeper climbs than roadies. After all, road bikes are made for speed and endurance, and MTBs…well, it’s in the name. So yeah, an average MTBker on MTB will make 1000vam faster than average road biker on road bike.

@gmbn 13 күн бұрын

Good idea!

@justinlangley3432 11 күн бұрын

@@izi941 most roadies live for the climbs. You’d be surprised.

@paul4292 14 күн бұрын

Can you make a video where you compare different bikes (enduro, trail, xc, gravel, road) on the same routes with same power input/watts? I want to know how much more efficient a road bike is compared to mountainbikes

@richeeg3271 11 күн бұрын

It's hard to say, but if you get some really slow commuter tires on your road bike, 2L of water, you'll have it pretty similar to a modern high end xc mtb

@paul4292 11 күн бұрын

@@richeeg3271true but I want to know whats harder, for example if I do 25km with my enduro in the woods or if a friend does 100km on the street with his road bike? Cause Its not only the bike its also the softer loser ground that makes a difference etc etc. Ive seen a video where they did that with xc or trail vs enduro if I remember correcly. They had garmin pedals to see the watts. The enduros did the route in about 2 minutes and the xc/trail bikes were like 20-30 seconds faster with same watts. So about 1/4 faster. So if you and a friend ride, you enduro, he a lighter faster trail or xc bike and you go up a hill with same power. Your friend reaches the top in 45minute and you will need 1 hour with same energy output

@lewismcgillion8949 11 күн бұрын

Depends a lot on the route really, on the road a road bike is probably going to be >50% faster than an enduro bike. On a technical downhill an enduro bike will probably be 500% faster than a road bike haha

@paul4292 11 күн бұрын

@@lewismcgillion8949 im talking about energie efficiency while pedaling, not going downhill

@paul4292 11 күн бұрын

In a road bike forum they said 150km on street with roadbike is like 50km in the woods with a mountainbike. I want to know if that is true and considering there is a big difference in efficiency already between xc and enduro i think the difference could even be bigger than 150km=50km

@bjorne46 10 күн бұрын

Last year i did 1000m in 2 hours and 11 min. On my 150mm full suspension. The kicker is, it was in Austria over a distance of 12.2km.

@rafaelvidaldupuy119 2 күн бұрын

That's steep!!

@rafaelvidaldupuy119 2 күн бұрын

That's steep!! Also, 6 km/h of mean speed must have been felt like am eternity

@bjorne46 2 күн бұрын

@@rafaelvidaldupuy119 too busy climbing to think about it.

@helicopter12345678 14 күн бұрын

Obviously a direct climb a road bike would win but nice challenge boys a bit of Top Gear style i reckon...🤣 Art

@izi941 13 күн бұрын

Depends how steep. The steeper it is, the faster the MTB is….even on the asphalt. Example: try doing 30+% climb with a road bike and with a MTB

@helicopter12345678 13 күн бұрын

Good point.. @@izi941

@WendsH 9 күн бұрын

@@izi941 Nah, I'd say the road bike would still be faster, especially if they had comparable gear ratios. No power loss to suspension, and lighter weight bike overall means less to haul up a gradient. If there's leafs or sand on the road, though, MTB takes it lol

@noneofyourbusiness4294 7 күн бұрын

@@WendsH generally speaking, you won't have similar gear ratios between the two, unless you set the bikes up for that particular challenge. Mtbs do have the advantage on a challenge like this, it's just a matter of fact. Road bike cassettes typically stop where mtb cassettes start. And the ratios are much, much closer together. And that's absolutely fine. Roadbikes, while they do have to do some climbing, are more focused on endurance. Or in other words: slight differences that can keep you going. Mtbs.. yeah, unless you're riding downhill, in which case even a 7 speed cassette will do the trick, because you won't be climbing, but taking a lift... you're gonna look at something along the lines of 42, 46, maybe even 51 teeth on the lowest gear. It's what the bike and drivetrain are designed for. On steep climbs, the mtb will win. When it comes to going fast and being stable: road bike all the way. You barely can compare the two in a fair setting, if at all. Or in other words: if you want to drive a screw, use a screwdriver, not a hammer, although it may get the job done

@timosirkka5597 4 күн бұрын

@@WendsH This guy understands physics!

@raphaelwolff8205 14 күн бұрын

Great race guys,really enjoyed the battle.

@matt_acton-varian 13 күн бұрын

Great challenge guys, interesting to see the tactical divergence in this. Another aspect is that off-road climbs are often steeper but slower. Finding the balance to get the optimal VAM is a huge advantage too.

@johnlieto8906 10 күн бұрын

Bravo!! Love this, Conner you are such a good sport!

@melibaut 14 күн бұрын

Both routes look fun and enjoyed this style of video!

@gmbn 13 күн бұрын

The Forest of Dean is a great part of the world to ride bikes!

@markward6387 11 күн бұрын

I'm a roadie but I got to give it you , you're decents look alot more fun and zero traffic lights 😂

@Shadowboost 7 күн бұрын

My climb yesterday was 3700 ft and descending was like 15 miles

@neildaniel8232 13 күн бұрын

@2.17 - since when is the FOD in Wales? I'd love it to be Welsh but the locals will adamantly tell you it's most definitely in England 🤣

@justinlangley3432 11 күн бұрын

Yeah that was weird. It is 100% in England.

@mrvwbug4423 11 күн бұрын

Yeah, it's still most definitely east of the River Wye, it might be closer to Cardiff than to Bath (where GCN/GMBN are located) but it's still on the English side of the border. Though I know a few people in northern Wales who consider anything south of Shropshire to be England haha.

@PDQCycleCoaching 11 күн бұрын

Fod is in England not Wales !

@SylvainsShipyard 14 күн бұрын

This was fun, I want another challenge between you two!

@gmbn 13 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@paulsslightlyactivelife 13 күн бұрын

Closer than I was expecting, and exhilarating to watch you both. FOD is my absolute fave place to ride. Well done to both of you.

@gmbn 13 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@colincarter5266 8 күн бұрын

Awesome friendly comradery between and MTBer and a roadie. Good video.

@supakidgalaxy 14 күн бұрын

I hope we get to see Connor go for unbound again this year

@user-vv2ev6fx6g 14 күн бұрын

Rich buy Conor one of those giant breakfasts he had last week if he wins or not he loves em, 😂😅

@gmbn 13 күн бұрын

Maybe that's what was still weighing him down! 😅

@nmcelroy3540 7 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😳

@mattcoates_83 9 күн бұрын

Great video! Great to see focus on fitness and earning / achieving something on analogue bikes! Dare I say… Felt like a video for adults rather than kids 😬 Well done GMBN 👍🏻

@dannyk3718 14 күн бұрын

It's been a double dose of Payne this weekend ...time to go out and make some pain of my own great vid guys

@gmbn 13 күн бұрын

We've had him doing double shifts! 😉

@greengonzonz 13 күн бұрын

Conor on XC? He'll need to add another bike to the quiver n+1 Picrure Conor on an MTB... It'll look like a BMX 🤣

@mrvwbug4423 11 күн бұрын

Maybe Pinarello will make him a custom frame like they did for his Dogma F.

@davidzof 10 күн бұрын

So the roadie decided to do a climbing competition by... riding on flat roads. Doh !

@TheOC1968 9 күн бұрын

Connor is still suffering from that breakfast.

@ricktan5663 14 күн бұрын

Need to do the chain less descent race again

@madetowin1612 14 күн бұрын

That fitness race. Not pretending nothing)). Im mtb❤️

@user-so8sb4vk6b 12 күн бұрын

Roll on part two

@joneinarmattiasvisser6113 8 күн бұрын

Hmmm, feel like I could beat you guys running, 1000m in an hour🤣

@TheBrokenMountainBiker 14 күн бұрын

Pair of mountain goats!!

@owenneedham4651 10 күн бұрын

Bro 23 is perfect riding temperature, what are you on about 😂

@brannmacfinnchad9056 11 күн бұрын

Out of curiousity, as a roady...does your headunit count jumps towards elevation gain? Say you manage to get 2meters up, does that get added to gain? I jump about as well as an elephant, so not able to check myself.

@anthonynicasio7044 14 күн бұрын

Almost half way to 1000 likes!!🎉

@ChrisRufus76 12 күн бұрын

Everyone loves Connor

@chrisridesbicycles 13 күн бұрын

The thing with the alpine climb where all can be ridden in one go should be a video at some point.

@arieschop8726 10 күн бұрын

Wonder what the stats would look like if you look at net vertical. (assent minus descent)

@stuartthurstan 3 күн бұрын

Ditch the bikes boys. I regularly do vertical kilometer runs in about 65-70 minutes.

@brianclarke9299 14 күн бұрын

Great challenge. Great soundtrack

@martinnielsen2037 11 күн бұрын

Do it on a pumptrack😃

@bchearne 8 күн бұрын

How about an arm wrestling contest between a roadie and a mountain biker?

@colshark1 8 күн бұрын

Did he just say "the forest of Dean in South Wales " ? 😂

@KiranMachiraju 11 күн бұрын

I want to see Connor ride his big bike 😅

@nsambafrancis8033 13 күн бұрын

Congratulations gmbn family the roadie is crushed, we have won once in a while after a long time of losing

@gmbn 13 күн бұрын

Been a long time coming!

@openbabel 10 күн бұрын

So the viewer want to know how much advantage in minutes does the rider get on this ride by wearing professional aerodynamic cycle clothing ?

@DancerOfClouds 2 күн бұрын

5600 Likes. Part 2: Bring it on

@bikeanddogtrips 14 күн бұрын

conor should have just held his wahoo above his head - like Adam when he turns in to He-Man

@philhunt1442 11 күн бұрын

Man those road shoes look like orange crocs

@bob69365 13 күн бұрын

It was a given, Rich for the win and not just cos Connor can’t win 💩 😂

@mrvwbug4423 11 күн бұрын

How about a downhill oriented challenge with Conor, Manon, and/or Ollie. We already know Simon and Hank are good MTBers, so should let the other GCN presenters have a crack at it.

@GaryLowry-dk4hc 9 күн бұрын

Pretty sure asccent isn’t a word

@akaraikiriakatsuki3157 2 күн бұрын

I think if both are taking the road path. Road bike would be faster. But the mtb rider will not be as beat up and can probably climb another 1000m

@justinh7099 13 күн бұрын

flat bar hard tails are so hawt right now

@bartoszodrobinski2815 14 күн бұрын

What is the trail centre that Rich was riding at. Looks interesting

@Nomads_Rowing 14 күн бұрын

Forest of Dean, near Ross on Wye, UK

@SkarryTerry 14 күн бұрын

Next climb challenge, Gravel vs MTB.

@gmbn 13 күн бұрын

For sure! Worth a shot 👍

@ro...valverde1622 19 сағат бұрын

I did just under 1100m today on a single climb near my house 😅🤭

@gaddobronx6740 13 күн бұрын

What you should do is have the roadie do the same mtb climb and see who can do the 1000m faster. Or even Rich could go on the road bike and see how each of you guys adjust to the different discipline.

@River_Miles 14 күн бұрын

Damn guys, can't even make the statistical criteria at the end match for both runs?

@GogglesTyresandTrainers 10 күн бұрын

FOD is England, not South Wales

@bobwilkie5721 14 күн бұрын

Nonsense; the MTB guy spent most of his time freewheeling

@ogamaniuk 13 күн бұрын

Off topic question for Rich: I'm a beginner and own Orbea Onna 20, a $820 USD hard tail bike. I'm feeling it's time to upgrade. Should I get Alma as you have or should I consider Orbea Oiz? My budget is up to 5k. Btw what Alma you have?

@mrvwbug4423 11 күн бұрын

What type of riding do you plan to do? If you're looking at doing a bit of everything I'd get the Occam if you're wanting another Orbea. Get the Oiz if you really want to get into XC racing. I might not be Rich but I know bikes pretty well.

@prestachuck2867 13 күн бұрын

I say rematch the same exact challenge, but choose a starting point where the roads go upwards as soon as the trail does, AND GCN gets have Andrew Feather instead of Conor.

@unpaidintern5331 10 күн бұрын

Is that a creaky bottom bracket at 3:42? xD

@heywood165 9 күн бұрын

When you’re tall like Conor you can probably make any bottom bracket creak, the leverage he must get from his legs will be insane. Bearings should probably be scaled up with the increase in frame size.

@unpaidintern5331 8 күн бұрын

@@heywood165 Well I'm 1,98m (he's taller by only 6cm) and my BB does not creak. :/ Am I doing something wrong?

@heywood165 8 күн бұрын

@@unpaidintern5331 Well it’s obviously because he’s not running a Hambini bottom bracket then, only other reason I can think of…

@scotgill9975 11 күн бұрын

Why were the front forks bobbing on the climb? I would think the front fork would be locked while climbing…

@dtibor5903 10 күн бұрын

Climbing on road is way more efficient

@aemiliadelroba4022 10 күн бұрын

I don’t understand what this proves !😮 They are not sharing the same route , so the results will be different.

@bettyjones8363 10 күн бұрын

Conor is twice is height and size. Also he chose a long route.

@IPM71 11 күн бұрын

I do 1000m in about an hour on a road bike. And I'm not even a roadie. I reckon it would be easier on an XC bike.

@nuttynut722 11 күн бұрын

aren't they in the same office anyway?

@witepa 12 күн бұрын

To be fair, GMBN is on a hardtail... aka a suspension gravel bike, pretty much a road bike.

@mrvwbug4423 11 күн бұрын

Wouldn't make much difference, on a full sus he'd just lock out the suspension for that climb, which is just a steep fire road.

@yoda112358 14 күн бұрын

Really not a mtb vs road challenge. it's a result of the terrain. head to the mountains for example where you can get 1000m in a single climb and the results change.

@adamweb 14 күн бұрын

Exactly, we used to ride a MTB trail in Idaho with 1000m of elevation in just 8km!

@user-zx3hl4hq3t 13 күн бұрын

You’re right but good luck finding 1000m climb in the UK.

@mrvwbug4423 11 күн бұрын

Yeah, you're not gonna find that in the UK. The only point close to them that is over 1000m high is the summit of Snowdon in north Wales, it's 1084m and has neither a road nor a bike trail to the top (but does have a train haha).

@user-zx3hl4hq3t 11 күн бұрын

@@mrvwbug4423 There are actually several mountains over 1000m in the UK (especially in Scotland), but yeah, no roads to go that high. Regarding Snowdon, I'm actually quite sure that you ride it at certain times of the day but only on a specific path.

@jthomp1254 10 күн бұрын

again!!!

@manfrommontreal 11 күн бұрын

Olli from GCN would smoked the both of you 😅

@brannmacfinnchad9056 11 күн бұрын

Sounds like this race came down more to tactics and route planning than "stronger rider" or "Better bike"...and Conor definitely lost at the latter.

@witoldrudnicki8962 13 күн бұрын

Best possible opponent with very bad strategy. Conor is big guy so by definition bad climber. And his strategy - going fast on gentle slopes is very bad. One should minimize the road traveled and speed so least possible effort is used to fight rolling resistance and wind resistance. Also minimize time downhill. Both conditions mean go on a steep road - as steep as still relatively easy to ride 12 to 15 kph.

@mrvwbug4423 11 күн бұрын

Conor was a Rouleur as a pro, so better on the hills than you'd think. He would be leading out/protecting the climbers on mountain stages

@neilelliston 12 күн бұрын

Both riders should ride on the same bikes. Same routes. See how that goes

@derekcraig3617 11 күн бұрын

Apples and oranges don't compare

@prolfinator 13 күн бұрын

Naz Reid

@krehme 13 күн бұрын

Good job guys! You know that if Conner had used Oli’s parabola method to gain elevation he would have won. :)

@sirroger1066 11 күн бұрын

stupid but fun

@letstalk741 13 күн бұрын

Looks like roadies are in disadvantages cause he's riding on road and the heat is heating the road then the evaporated from that makes it difficult to ride and you'll easily get tired

@mrvwbug4423 11 күн бұрын

In the trees the humidity can spike causing it to get really muggy, so you're gonna suffer in the heat either way.

@Agent_Schmied 9 күн бұрын

Aber ist doch Conor nicht der beste Bergsteiger. Trotzdem auch interessant.

@mmenjic Күн бұрын

12:12 then why did you call him, or why didnt you told him you were only 400m up so he slows down or .......................

@chrishey6891 10 күн бұрын

So to make it "fair" the road route is flawed. if Conor just does a climb on repeat he wins easily

@chad.haggerty 14 күн бұрын

Rich - “you ready for the beeps?” Doesn’t beep.

@stealthy7 9 күн бұрын

Very disappointed with the food choices at the end. I`d be on a Full English as a very minimum. Extra egg sausage AND bacon

@rolandfor 11 күн бұрын

Don’t mix or compare roads bike va mtb! Not the same thing!!

@hartstrengthendurance9643 12 күн бұрын

Next time...Rich on a road bike, Connor on an MTB. Same routes as today :) Really dig the crossover challenges you guys do! Keep em coming!

@hartstrengthendurance9643 12 күн бұрын

Grab a GTN guy too!!!

@tallteacher 11 күн бұрын

Connor put to much effort into moving air out of the way…..

@roberttell1587 13 күн бұрын

Conor with the boss chair! I hope you don't let anyone else sit in it.

@EwanStrauss 14 күн бұрын

Im 1st to be 3rd

@YONICO666 14 күн бұрын

1st

@ryuujinusa 14 күн бұрын

Good choice with Connor, the worst climber by far. No offense to Connor

@mrvwbug4423 11 күн бұрын

Conor is a better climber than people think. His job on a team was to lead out the climbers or sprinters depending on the stage

@TivonSanders 12 күн бұрын

How about a race on paved roads? Cross Country mtb versus Road bike. Which is actually faster on pavement?

@mrvwbug4423 11 күн бұрын

No contest, the road bike by a lot.

@packingtroll 13 күн бұрын

cope

@nomadcarpenter8549 13 күн бұрын

Can we get rid of the beeps. They are really cringe. What do others think?

@mrvwbug4423 11 күн бұрын

GCN loves their beeps haha

@kalijasin 11 күн бұрын

GCN always last place. LOL 😆

@JackRidesbikes. 14 күн бұрын

people care too much about being 1st

@gianmarcocostanzo1380 8 күн бұрын

Ok the entertainment, but it's a pointless video. A lighter road bike, on smoother surface and more regular ascent, has a considerable better VAM. I do both road and MTB, and no way I can get my road VAM on a MTB uphill.

@biggertree7063 14 күн бұрын

Those guys are useless. 😂

@grahambarker3845 11 күн бұрын

pointless. seems to be getting desperate to make any video. nothing equal to make it any worth. you might as well have just sent the road guy off on a 100 mile ride at 1% and the mtb guy on a steep hill at 15%.....whats the point.....error with route planning....why bother with a route, just climb....boring really.