The disrespect to Kaman and Calderon.....

As a Detroit native remembering this draft makes me physically ill bruh... If DET gets Wade, Melo, or Bosh I think they win in 04' (which they actually did) and then 2 of the next 3 minimum. Billups Wade or Rip Prince or Melo Sheed Ben Wallace It would've been crazy

Kaman in 2006 was a 9/9.5 guy and in the playoffs (11 games) put up 11/8 on 59% shooting. Talk about a C who can play 20 minutes for you, he was the one. 2010 he was an 18.5/9.5 guy. He even joined Portland in 2015 (51 win team) where he put up 8.5/6.5 in 19 minutes. I get that Perk was a Celtic, but Kaman would have been better for both those Celtics and Thunder teams.

Don't stop doing this series, Bill. It's my favorite podcast. I've been a draft nut for years- the Lampe Knicks pick was the highwater mark! Love reliving that stuff.

Wade could've played Mike James role off Pistons bench and won a championship as a rookie. Then transitioned into a Vinnie Johnson role in '05 and Pistons would've won b2b. Then instead of leading Heat to title in '06, he would've been leading Pistons to a three-peat. And had he won 3 championships his first 3 yrs, he could've ended up with more titles than Jordan.

i like that this dude always smiles even through the tj ford injury description hahahahahahaha

1996 redraft: if yr goal is to win titles, ray allen over allen iverson 2003 redraft: chris bosh wins titles, but you gotta choose carmelo

The best thing in this entire video is Chad's reaction to Bill's 13th pick...priceless.

D-Wade at #2 no question

Please make another one love to revisit the history like that.

Darko, James jones over steve blake ?? steve blake was a SOLID SOLID backup point guard id take over both of them

Redraft reuploaded

Nice, this is the 1st time im getting to watch these

I remember watching these through Covid year kept me entertained

Looking forward to the next few redrafts 2004: Lots of HS talent and solid careers, no big stars after Dwight 2005: After CP3 you have Deron, but there'd be a lot of debate afterwards 2006: No superstars, but Aldridge, Lowry, Millsap, Rondo etc to choose from (Roy too) And then you reach 07/08/09 where you still have lots of guys still playing today, all interesting years too

I though I was going crazy for the first five minutes of this video. Déjà vu

I feel like Kirk Heinrich was very underrated for this draft.

So good they needed a re-redraft?

The Ringer presents The ReUploadables!

Thanks for shouting out bosh. That 15-16 heat team was going all the way

Please DO NOT stop doing these!

I feel like I’ve seen this before

Still don't get why they didn't draft Chris Kaman... Dude was an all star (not a great one but still that's a pretty big achievement and one you hope a player you draft get's to)... I basically said the same thing in the original video

Why is this being reuploaded? Will they still draft James Jones and darko over kaman?

As a huge Creighton fan from Omaha Kyle is all we got. It's still kinda dope that his name gets brought up with the greats from the 2003 draft class. I know he's not comparable at all to the likes of James, Wade, Melo, or Bosh, but it's still cool that his name will get dropped by association.

I like this guy Bill, you need to have him on more often!

David West was also the leader on the Pacers team with Playoff P.

I was actually at that T.J Ford game. Never heard a crowd so quiet before or since.

West in this draft was like Boozer the year before. Great college career, but got passed up for guys with “more upside”. Two guys at his position picked before him were Mike Sweetney and Nick Collison. Collison I kind of get because he had a great college career and was coming off a strong final four, but Sweetney was undersized and slow as hell. He put up numbers in the Big East, but no way a decent scout looks at the tape of him and West in college and says Sweetney was better.

Chris Kaman was an all-star smh

1960 class is also not shabby considering that there were only 8 teams drafting: Oscar Robertson, Jerry West, Lenny Wilkens, Tom Sanders, Al Attles, Darrall Imhoff, Lee Shaffer

Beginning you mentioned 84, 96, and 03. I’ll add another gem- 1970. Look up that draft. It was a banger. Maybe not the star power, but the pure amount of hall of famers and household nba names was impressive.

Kaman should be on there. You repost a redraft and still don’t get it right.

Did Simmons just say Bill Russel was top 3 all time?? Lol he’s an unapologetic homer, I love it

The Kat comparison was perfect

Andre Miller, Boris Diaw, Elton Brand, David West, Danny Granger and others...Good listening to this storyline, thanks

1. Lebron 2. Wade 3. Carmelo 4. Bosh 5. D. West- third tier all star 6. K. Korver- considering he was east all star and could play for probably any NBA team depending on era as starter 7. J. Howard- had great def potential lole Josh Smith. Could been all star in east as a primary defender third tier scorer. 8. B. Diaw - if he doesn't go to the hawks and goes to playoff team he may been third tier star. 9. K. Hinrich 10. M.williams Notable players K. Hinrich- better all around player then mo but really needs elite talent at multiple positions to be truly valuable L. Ridnour T. Ford M. Pietrus K. Perkins N. Collison J. Hayes W. Greene Z. Pachulia J. Jones T. Outlaw K. Brogans S. Blake C. Kaman

How do they not mention that Carmelo was robbed of ROY beats Lebron in every stat except assist, team record Den 43-39, Cle 35-47

I'd take Bosh's career over Carmelo, but Melo is clearly more talented if we're talking about both at their peaks

Hakeem was absolutely one of the best #1 picks ! Gets over looked cause MJ went 3rd in that draft

I agree with Chad Ford here. If Darko goes later, he's a good player. He couldn't live up to expectations, but he had some solid years later in his career. Incidentally, if the Pistons take Melo, then Kiki takes Darko at 3. He was in love with the Euros back then.

Rookie melo was one of my favorites to watch

I don't know about the "Pop couldn't coach Barbosa" take. He coached Manu and Cpt. Jack and let them attain their full potential and loved them both.

There both high af, no testing during corana season 🔥💨🙏🏼

Love how Bosh gets his due from most now

Why was the other video deleted and this video put up in its place?

Mo Williams was a choker. Idk what rose colored glasses you guys have on. Really solid player who disappeared in the playoffs consistently with Cleveland

The Heat would have made the ecf in 2016 had Bosh been healthy

That Karl Anthony Towns and Chris Bosh comparison is phenomenal. KAT needs to go to a team where he can be a primary 3rd or soft 2nd option. That way he can just concentrate of defense and the 3s he loves shooting. Now whether KAT is willing to take that type of role like Bosh was is the harder question to resolve.

i agree with 2. i think dwayne takes the 3rd guard minutes at both spots easy. Bosh doesn't defend well enough to not take carmelo.

Why did they stop with 2003? They should do until 2010.. or are they saving it for future episodes?

Have you stopped at 2003? I would love to see the rest! :)

Bill was so hard after watching "the last dance" he uploaded the wrong video

We need '04 already!!!

The one thing I don't like is they aren't taking into account past drafts, free agents contexts. They're just basically ranking players.

do this from 1990 but the only thing do it by fit for then but u also gotta think about who is to come in the future and figure out what teams would of won the title

Still waiting for 2004, 2005, 2006..... :(

Kirk Hinrich has to be one of the most unappreciated stars of his time. I remember being crushed when the Bulls took Rose instead of Beasley is 2008 because “we have KIRK HINRICH!!!” I know it was silly thinking back on it now, but not by that much. Kirk was the man in Chicago with Ben Gordon.

Bill is the best, cool reliving these old memories

reredraft

I like the take that Bosh had humility, that's as good as any numbers. How good was his locker room presence?

Sonics are not picking James Jones over Nick Collison. Collison had a solid career impact wise on the court as a role player and off the court as a locker room guy. I think that was the biggest goof up of this redraft because Chad Ford’s reason for even picking Jones was because of leadership. Collison is Mr. Thunder! They even retired his number for being such an impact on and off the court. Also, Thunder fan here.

Why was this uploaded again? Are we missing something?

Can you do what If Melo went to the Bulls in free agency that infamous year , does he help D Rose lift a trophy ?

2. Wade - Pistons (Means detroit wins 4 straight ships) 04, 05, 06 07. Boston beats them in 08 and Joe breaks the team up to try and rebuild. Billups is traded, wallace is traded, sheed, leaves and rip leaves. Wade is the only one left. He plays great in 09 and 10 then him and lebron join up in miami with the player below 3. Carmello - Denver - Same as always except seeing wade win so big early he decided to take a shorter contract and join up with lebron and wade in miami in 2011. The heat 2peat in 11 and 12 and lose to the bulls in 13 and 14.and lebron goes back to cleveland 4. Bosh -Toronto - Same as before except he isn't recruited to go miami. Instead he comes to chicago in 2011 and d gawd doesn't injured and after losing to miami in 11 and 12 d gawd and bosh win the finals in 13, lose to the spurs in 14 (spurs revenge) and win again in 15 and 16 over GSW. The trio of Bosh, Rose and Jimmy is shitting on the league. (Bosh never gets those blood clots as he stayed in a cold weather city in chicago)

Better ReDraft (? For injury Concerns or character issue) Bron Wade? Bosh/Melo West Diaw? Hinrich?/Williams/Barbosa/Calderon Howard?/Korver Kaman Ford? Ridnour Blake Perkins/Pachuila Milicic? Honorable Mentions Piétrus/Delfino James Jones/Bonnor/Kapono/Outlaw Daniels/Dahntay Jones Collision Banks/Hayes/Green Bogans

Wade actually joined Kobe on 1st team all nba in 09. I think Bill is focused on positions but they were clearly the top two guards for a stretch after the media stopped pumping Nash up.

If you're asking who would do what Chris Bosh did as far as leaving a team where he was the prime Star I guess the best answer would be Kevin Love. He was a monster at Minnesota but join that cavaliers team as a second or sometimes third option. Another player who wanted a title more than he wanted big numbers on a worse team.

You dudes are smoking, Melo is the perfect pick at 2 for the Pistons in an '03 re-draft. Either him or Wade ensures a dynasty imo, but bringing on 'Melo they hold on to Rip, with Tayshaun's personality more suited to sixth-man stopper...

Reupload?

mine before watching 2003 draft Lebron wade Carmelo Bosh david west diaw barbosa hinrich james jones kaman kyle korver josh howard perk sasha pavlovic luke ridnour

I love how he always finds a way to take a jab at Kobe

Bosh if he had stayed in Toronto would have been a 25 12 career

I always thought Reece Gaines from Louisville, long, athletic, could shoot in college, Pitino coached guy, seems like Pitino and Coach K coached players have poor nba careers, just cant make the transition, like the guards from Cincinnati back in the day, but nba today would be interesting for a guy like Steve Logan, Satterfield( he did have a slight run), Demarr Johnson(slight run) but those cats might have different careers. Nick "The Quick" Van Exel

Why was it reuploaded?

Thought we've seen this one.....

My favorite part of this draft was the lottery...gordon gund literally couldn't see but he knew who he had to pick. Meaning....even a blind man could see lebron was the clear number one

Redraft so nice they posted it twice

Kobe was lucky to go to a great organization. Don't kid yourself. His legacy could have been way different if he stayed in Charlotte and got 1 ring or something lol

He is one of the best players 3ver

Can someone explain why Bill didnt do the 2009 draft?

Dwayne Wade @ 2 for Pistons, oh what could have been!!!!

Darko Milicic over Chris Kaman and Jose Calderon?

How tf did u guys disrespect Kaman so bad

They disrespected TJ Ford

We need 2004 already!

So no mention of Jose Calderon?

Do 2011, in my opinion a top 4 draft class of all time.

No mention of Kyle Korver all star season?

You forgot Kaman. Better career than Jones and Milicic.

Disagree with the 2nd pick. D Wade would of been a positive but I think we would of benefitted greatly with Melo in the long run.

I wonder how good Darko could have been if he played for Pop

Diaw was a great passer too

Can we get the Leandro Barbosa highlight reel?

Is this a mistake? The Ringer posted this last week.

Luke Ridnour was a great backup

Why did they reupload this?

For the love of goodness where is 2004 😥😥

Isn't this a repost?

Bruh why’d you guys stop making these videos?