To the young man - I was where you are many decades ago. I accepted the answer from Bishops, Quorum leaders, etc. that in time all the questions I had would be answered. That all the major conflicts within LDS would be cleared up. I had to consider Joesph Smith was the one not presenting the truth and maybe God actually could do what he said and keep his word true for us to learn. When I grew up in the 70’s- there is no way the church would allow white guy and black gal to marry and be sealed. No blacks could hold priesthood because they taught us the mark of Cain is black skin. You would be dooming all your offspring. They changed their story since then like they have many other issues. Please realize the Bible is true, not mistranslated. You can read the same words Jesus did and referenced often. The dead sea scrolls made before Jesus was born show us the info He had is what we have in the Old Testament. You have to see the complete differences of what Joesph Smith said VS Jesus. Then choose who lied.

To answer the question in the video, I worship because I love God and Christ. I owe them absolutely everything. My life, all my blessings and even all the difficult struggles we face in mortality. Because the trials create an opportunity for me to grow my faith in my savior, to come unto him. I worship to show my love and devotion.

Smith and those like him were very smart. They first said that traditional scripture was wrong and that they alone had the correct version. If they can cast doubt upon scripture with their members, how can you use scripture to correct them? They will not believe you.

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Basing the foundation of your faith on feelings and experiences alone is a scary thing. Men and women in all religions, throughout time, have been moved radically with moments of clarity and epiphanies; all with contrary doctrines and truth to one another. In 2Peter 1:18... Peter explains his experience on the mount of transfiguration, one of the most amazing/supernatural encounters a human could experience in this life, and he tells us, even with that experience, "You can be MORE SURE of the prophetic word." Peter is placing more validity on God's Word than with any experience. It comes down to this... The standard by which everything is measured against must be God's unperverted Word, especially experiences and feelings. "The heart is deceitful above all things, desperately sick; Who can know it?" If you branch out from the standard... then the standard can mean whatever you want it to mean. Jesus said, "Thy Word is truth".

So what is to be done with that false prophet? If you continue to read in Deuteronomy 13 you’ll see. Ye shall walk after the Lord your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto him. And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn you away from the Lord your God, which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the Lord thy God commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee. Russell M Nelson is the successor of Joseph Smith and is sustained as a prophet, seer, and revelator. If he is considered a to be a prophet, or dreamer of dreams, who leads people after false gods, aren’t you commanded to put him to death? Should Russell M Nelson be concerned about your intentions to follow the instructions in Deuteronomy?

Here we go again with the “God says in Isaiah ‘there are no other gods so you won’t become a god some day’ thing. Yes my comment is long but bear with me, especially any Latter-day Saints who might watch this video and think you are being offered truth about Isaiah chapters 40 through 46… His interpretation of these couldn’t be further from the truth. Isaiah 43:10: 10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. If you read the whole of Chapter 43 in its context, 43:10 does not mean what evangelicals think it means. Most evangelical Christians feel that Isaiah 43:10 is a sort of trump card disproving the LDS doctrine of exaltation to godhood. This ‘proof text’ allegedly stumps “Mormons” and shows that they can never be gods because God himself says, “…before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.” As you will see, when taken in context, this verse is not a theological statement on monotheism. Examining Isaiah 43 closely, it starts off with the Lord inviting Israel (Jacob) back to Him saying in verse 1: “But now thus saith the Lord that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.” In verse 3, He proclaims: “For I am the Lord thy God, the Holy One of Israel, thy Saviour:…” and reminds the Israelites, “… I gave Egypt for thy ransom,…” In verses 3, and 15 to 18, the Lord is reminding the Israelites that when they pleaded with Him to free them from Egypt, He delivered them, parted the Red Sea and drowned the Egyptians, and asks, in verse 18, “Remember ye not the former things, neither consider the things of old.” He is asking them to think back to their history in Egypt and all the miraculous things that occurred then. Verses 10, 11, and 12 are meant to be one continuous thought: “10 Ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God FORMED, neither shall there be after me. 11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour. 12 I have declared, and have saved, and have shewed, WHEN THERE WAS NO STRANGE GOD AMONG YOU: therefore ye are my witnesses, saith the Lord, that I am God.” [emphasis added] The key phases “…before me there was no God FORMED…” and, “… WHEN THERE WAS NO STRANGE GOD AMONG YOU…” are incredibly important here: When God, through his Prophet Moses, led the Israelites out of Egypt, it was fairly obvious that he was God, a REAL GOD. I mean, c’mon!… Pillars of fire blocking the Egyptian Army? The Red Sea splitting in two? (Even the most hardened of today’s atheists would have to suspect something supernatural if they were to witness such things as the Israelites lived through in 1500 BC.) The idols the Egyptians worshipped as “gods” were nothing but man-made wood, stone, and/or metal statues. (Remember Pharaoh - played by Yul Brenner - pitifully pleading to a statue to bring his dead son back to life in the Ten Commandments? A short time later in the film, he exclaims to his wife “His (Moses) god is God.”) Apart from the small lapse of worshipping the golden calf when Moses was up in the mountain receiving the 10 Commandments, there was no STRANGE GOD - that is idols or graven images - among the Israelites: They worshipped and relied on Jehovah, the great I AM. Fast forward several hundred years to Isaiah's time… the generation that witnessed the miraculous exodus from Egypt are long gone and, to the current generation of Israelites, the story of God and Moses, the Red Sea parting etc., etc… is just one of many stories of many gods as their society mixes with the pagan societies and cultures around them with their idolatrous gods… And they are picking and choosing which STRANGE GOD to worship instead of their true God Jehovah. And these strange gods are FORMED… i.e., fashioned out of metal, and wood, and stone. This is incredibly important. If the Lord were talking about other exalted beings, or the possibility of other exalted beings like Him - actual REAL GODS - HE WOULD NOT HAVE USED THE TERM “FORMED.” Why would he need to specify “formed gods” if he was talking about real Gods? If that were the case, the text would read, “…before me there was no God, neither shall there be after me.” The use of the word “formed” specifies what type of god He is referring to in Isaiah 43:10: Idolatrous gods that are represented by statues; graven - meaning carved or sculpted - images, or molten images, that is, statues created through metallurgy. These types of “gods” have to be FORMED by the hands of men. In fact if you read Isaiah chapters 40 through 46, the theme of Israel’s backsliding into idolatry is mentioned over and over with God, through his authorized prophet Isaiah, saying in response that only He is God. Based on the themes and context of Isaiah 43, 44, and 45, and in fact the WHOLE of Isaiah chapters 40 through 46, the true meaning of the text is not a monolithic theological statement of monotheism. You can only make this claim if you take only the 11 verses specifically addressing the “there are no other gods” idea, and ignore the more than 30 verses in these 7 chapters that relate specifically to idols and idol worship. You must claim that there is absolutely no connection between the two ideas and all the “idol worship stuff” is just extra filler material to fill out the chapters. And ironically, the verse trotted out most often as a trump card of monotheism, Isaiah 43:10, clearly specifies the type of “formed gods” that God is referring to. When He says in Isaiah 44:8 “… Is there a God beside me? yea there is no God; I know not any”, of course he doesn’t know or relate to these man made statues as his contemporaries: They are just inanimate objects!!! He’s trying to get idolatrous Israel to see that! In sum, what is the key meaning of these 7 chapters of Isaiah from chapter 40 through 46? It is Jehovah saying to the idolatrous Israelites, “Don’t worship idols. Worship me, an actual God who can save you. All these other idols are not gods. There is no other God except for me.”

Deuteronomy 13 is not a good argument. Surely we're not going to take a several thousand year old document written by a different people and culture in a different place and context in history and retroactively fit it to suit our presuppositional worldview? There are so many holes in this argument, all of which require more study, scholarship, and research than just reading the verses themselves.

What intersection is this at?

Love the John Calvin beard that this Apologia guy has. Reminds me of ZZ Top.

They are worshipping the religion

God wanted me to repent of Mormonism recently Wild

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There are several things we should keep in mind in regards to Deut. 18 In Deuteronomy 18 we learn that the way we are to discern a false Prophet is, when his prophecy is not coming true. A careful read though, especially from verse 20, makes very clear that this is not just referring to false prophets, but is also referring to true prophets that have spoken presumptuously, meaning, this particular Deuteronomy passage does not say that a man is neccesarely a false prophet because his prophecy failed, but rather that the failed prophecy is false. This also becomes apparent from another Bible passage in Deuteronomy 13 where we learn that there actually are prophets whose prophecies can and do come true, but that are now to be discernd by wheter they lead us after other God, meaning, there can be false and deceiving prophets whose prophecies can and do come true. In other words, this alone suffices to destroy the argument that a true prophet can never prophecy of something that does not come true. But the Bible itself has to offer quite some good examples for that: Nathan, for example, a true Prophet of God, gave the Lords approval to David to build the temple, though God has not given the approval... Jonah would be another example, here the Lord commanded Jonah to prophecy the destrucion of Niniveh, and went away seeking out the next fish to escape God changing his mind by showing mercy unto Ninive. (Jonah 3:5) And didn’t God know that Hezekiah would live another fifteen years? So why give two conflicting prophecies through the prophet Isaiah (2 Kings 20:1-6)? Didn’t God know that Pharaoh would reject Moses’ words? Then why bother to send the prophet to the Egyptian king to ask that he let Israel go free? And in Acts 20:22-23 Paul was “compelled by the Spirit” to travel to Jerusalem, whilst in Acts 21:4 the diciples urged Paul also “through the Spirit to not go to Jerusalem”. The Bible itself contains a great variety of unfulfilled prophecies, some of which are fulfiulled according to the later greek translation, but are not fulfilled according to the older hebrew Bible, which indicate either these prophets have errerd, or that manipulation took place, which would lead to the conclusion that even the Bible is not in every aspect inerrant, univocal and inspired in the sense that every word of it is the literal word of God. Also it seems vital to understand the nature of prophecies, meaning, prophecies can be: 1. Conditional, depent on repentance etc. 2. Be read as a comman, instead of a foretelling (“ye shall build... “) 3. Some can transend this world 4. Some are more cryptic, like Jesus talking about “this generation” not being literal, or like Isiah talking in a more symbolic language 5. Prophecy vs. Visions. Sometimes vision do carry a symbolic meaning and hence require interpretation 6. Some may take a long time until being fulfilled. We see this for example with Isiah prophecying about Christ, or concerning his prophecies regarding the actions of Assyria (Isiah 10:24-25, where it was not fulfilled until a century later. Or we see this with Zephaniah, writing of the destruction of Judah, wrote that “the day of the Lord is at hand” (1:7) and that “the great day of the Lord is near, it is near, and it hasteth greatly” (1:14). This was written in the days of King Josiah (1:1), nearly a century before Judah was taken captive by the Babylonians. Joel used similar words, saying, “the day of the Lord is at hand” (1:15) and “the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand” (2:1). And so forth And if all of what the Bible actually teaches about it does not suffice, what about the many prophecies of Joseph Smith that did get fulfilled? There are over 400 prophecies outside of LDS scripture that have been fulfilled. One of the most famous one when he prophecied that within 40 days the stars would fall down from heaven, where on the 39 the day after that prophecy, one of the biggest and best recorded meteor showers took place. This is quite impressive, and yet Mormons even make the differenciation between a prophet speaking as a prophet, and a prophet speaking as a man. The idea and notion to impose inerrancy and perfection upon prophets is nothing Mormons do, they know that the only thing being perfect acually is God, and that the power of God works even through imperfect means, whether that be prophets being humans, or whether that be scriptures not being perfect in every sense.

This man tried really hard to convince this young man he was right. There were a few issues he created that actually doesn't align with what he was teaching. To start he references Deuteronomy 13 talking about a false prophet calling God's people to other gods. Moses is talking to people who knew God. So to bring them from that to an unknown god is what is being applied. What this man doesn't realize is that he believes in the god of the creeds, for it is by their teachings he has a preception of what he thinks God is. He then brings up Isaiah 43:10. That verse speaks of Jesus. Jesus is the God of the old testament,l. And it was to Jesus that the fathers of God's covenant people looked to, even dating back to Adam and Eve. As Jesus said, he is the way, the truth, and the life, and no man can come to the Father, but by him. That was the case for Adam, then all the way down through the years to the present day. To worship any other god is sin. Then this man mocks the idea of following one's own feelings. No one said to follow your feelings alone, but we read in John 14:26 that the Holy Ghost would teach us all things. And how do we know we've been taught by the Spirit? Galations 5:22-23. As he was quick to condemn one religion, he didn't realize he's already condemned himself. I know the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is God's church upon the earth. I've received a witness of it and to deny that witness is to deny God.

They worship Heloe near the planet Kalob.

Apologia always quote Isaiah 43:10 out of context as their slam dunk gotcha. If only they were committed Christians striving to learn and understand the gospel of Jesus Christ rather than being servants of Satan in trying to end the faith of the members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. In addition to Isaiah 40-46 which gives context to Isaiah 43:10 the bible also says Deuteronomy 10:17, Joshua 22:22, Psalms 82:1, Psalms 82:6, Psalms 136:2, Daniel 11:36, Matthew 5:48, John 10:34, Acts 17:29, Romans 8:17, 2 Corinthians 3:18, Galatians 4:7, Ephesians 4:13, Philippians 2:5,6, 1 John 3:2, Revelation 3:21.

Every apologia guy on the street regurgitates the same things as the last guy. Sounds a bit robotic lol

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To learn the definition of a prophet from an evangelist is hilarious. Every one of their pastors holds the title of a false prophet. You need authority to administer the gospel. To setup a ministry without priesthood keys is to set yourself up as a light and to commit the sin of priest craft. The sacrifice you are making will be rejected by Christ just as he has taught in modern day revelation.

Greetings in The Name of Jesus Christ, who is THE TRUTH, THE WAY AND THE LIFE. Bless all here. You are on the right path, seeking THE TRUTH. HOPEFULLY, The Whole Truth. Can Jesus Christ lie? Jesus Christ, God Eternal, can He lie? When Jesus Christ Established The One True Church, did He not say, It would Stand Forever? "The Gates of Hell WILL NOT prevail against It". Do you believe that? Do you Trust The Word made Flesh? I now will offer you some historical facts. Undeniable, undebatable FACTS. That One Church Jesus Established was and is The Catholic Church. Despite, time, storms, corruption, scandal, wars, famines, persecutions, heresies, it still Stands, after 2000 years. If you, whatever denomination you claim, hold to the idea, that at some point in history, The Catholic Church failed and died out, thereby creating the need for a "new" church to be formed, apart from The One Established by Jesus Christ Himself, then you are calling Jesus Christ a liar. Luther departed from His Church. Calvin departed from His Church. Wesley departed from His Church. And, Joseph Smith departed from His Church. The ONE AND ONLY CHURCH ESTABLISHED BY JESUS CHRIST, GOD, IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. ALL others are man-made. Jesus Established A Church, The Church. If you are not in That Church, you are in heresy. Check your PRIDE at the door when you come home to HIS CHURCH, you're always welcome. God bless. BTW, any time you quote from The Bible, you are affirming That God Gave His Authority to The Catholic Church, to Write, Compile and Canonize The Sacred Scripture you're holding in your hands today. As you should know by now, The New Testament Bible came from The Catholic Church. Thank you for your time and consideration. Vivo Christo Rey!!!