Who's Running the TVA? (and why he's awesome)

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2 жыл бұрын

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The Time Variance Authority, Marvel comics' temporal bureaucracy tasked with maintaining the proper flow of time, has made its appearance in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and all is not what it seems. Here is my guess at who is behind it all and more importantly, why.
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@Stalker-fm1wn
@Stalker-fm1wn 2 жыл бұрын
MATE THIS AGED LIKE FINE WINE
@thenegativoneify
@thenegativoneify Жыл бұрын
So did your mom mate
@TempusWare
@TempusWare 2 жыл бұрын
next ep we find out Kevin Feige exists in the MCU and runs the TVA
@SRosenberg203
@SRosenberg203 2 жыл бұрын
TBH that would be the best author-insert of all time. Alternatively, I'd like to think that the Grandmaster is behind it all. Though that might just be because I want more Goldblum in the MCU
@emilior3164
@emilior3164 2 жыл бұрын
Nah everyone knows it will be Nick Fury
@LightYagami_99
@LightYagami_99 2 жыл бұрын
Need this. A scene of him using the melt stick on pascal, avi, singer & kinsberg
@sharklair
@sharklair 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@guitarhero8110
@guitarhero8110 2 жыл бұрын
The only acceptable cameo for Kevin Feige. Either that or The One Above All.
@adambuckley2270
@adambuckley2270 2 жыл бұрын
The "Kang is the missing Young Avenger" theory is the most compelling. Most people have come to see the Young Avengers from a mile away and it seems to be coming together in an interesting way, should all the speculation actually turn out to be true.
@gabriel120300
@gabriel120300 2 жыл бұрын
I can see Iron Lad crushing MCU fans when becoming Kang in a Red Hood kinda way
@4luka824
@4luka824 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabriel120300 his transformation into Kang could be one of the best arcs and most compelling of the MCU
@djkellum12
@djkellum12 2 жыл бұрын
Young avengers does not appeal to me at all
@NateFigs
@NateFigs 2 жыл бұрын
If WandaVision has told me anything, it's probably Mephisto all along
@partymix1997
@partymix1997 2 жыл бұрын
Frog kang possessed by mephisto
@tigerdalandan
@tigerdalandan 2 жыл бұрын
Mafisto? Perhaps you meant Mafia? 😂
@thetertinator9562
@thetertinator9562 2 жыл бұрын
That was your lesson from WandaVision, that it probably IS Mephisto?
@partymix1997
@partymix1997 2 жыл бұрын
@@thetertinator9562 well the real maphisto is the theories we got wrong along the way
@nabongobong9155
@nabongobong9155 2 жыл бұрын
Haha nice try. I wont fall for it again :(
@parkerboy795
@parkerboy795 2 жыл бұрын
So far it looks like Loki was right in the first episode: A cruel elaborate trick conjured by the weak to inspire fear.
@danielntemuse5653
@danielntemuse5653 2 жыл бұрын
A desperate attempt at control
@fritzlayug
@fritzlayug 2 жыл бұрын
This is soooo on point after watching episode 6. I even came back here since this was the first theory video that was exact, except maybe it was he who remains but that doesn't matter.
@artsbynavarasan
@artsbynavarasan 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, even though it was he who remains, he had the outfit of emortis (however that's spelt). its like what they did with sylvie, mixing enchantress and lady loki together, only this time its 'he who remains' and emortis. so cool
@Nulono
@Nulono 2 жыл бұрын
@@artsbynavarasan Immortus.
@wyattrussell7496
@wyattrussell7496 2 жыл бұрын
If Disney + has told me anything, they’re not here to introduce movie villains.
@KylenBeatty
@KylenBeatty 2 жыл бұрын
unless the scarlet witch is a villain, which I'm hoping she is in her next appearance
@oxiary
@oxiary 2 жыл бұрын
A Prime Loki is probably running the TVA Kang was just casted and is doing something else. Definitely not gonna expect him.
@TheSinisterkelly
@TheSinisterkelly 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly it's an alternative Loki
@TheModeler99
@TheModeler99 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSinisterkelly Only Loki can fall in Love with a version of himself, defeat another lol
@NickPotatoes
@NickPotatoes 2 жыл бұрын
Except that is exactly what they want you to think, and then they will introduce a movie villain!
@silasbetit9659
@silasbetit9659 2 жыл бұрын
Just revisiting this video for no reason…
@koalasquare2145
@koalasquare2145 2 жыл бұрын
So this aged well..
@QyfieK
@QyfieK 2 жыл бұрын
TVA is acronym that stands for: T - it was V - Agatha A - all along
@partymix1997
@partymix1997 2 жыл бұрын
‘Twas villain Agatha
@SnakesGames
@SnakesGames 2 жыл бұрын
Tennessee Valley Authority
@happyguy2k
@happyguy2k 2 жыл бұрын
@@partymix1997 yes twas Agatha all along better acronym
@verskarton
@verskarton 2 жыл бұрын
Soon Into The Hahn Verse.
@EchoMutant1
@EchoMutant1 2 жыл бұрын
This made no sense...might want to think of something that *WILL* make sense 😑
@ShadmanRahman
@ShadmanRahman 2 жыл бұрын
He called it!! KANG IS HERE
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope Kang doesn't appear in Quantumania just to die in its first appearence like Ultron
@luperci6836
@luperci6836 2 жыл бұрын
Even if he does die they can easily just bring in alternate timeline kangs tbh
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu
@FranciscoRamirez-nb4uu 2 жыл бұрын
@@luperci6836 yeah, but I don't know how much people will like that, a lot didn't like the Past Thanos in Endgame
@Strixs
@Strixs 2 жыл бұрын
yea, plus I really don't see Kang the Conquerer dying in an Ant man and the Wasp movie unless its huge like Spiderman No Way Home, I see him being in the next big Avengers movie
@MandoDin
@MandoDin 2 жыл бұрын
*_Ant-Man will go inside him and grow larg-_*
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_
@_somerandomguyontheinternet_ 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt Ultron is actually dead. There are 3 laws of Marvel comics: 1. All deaths, estrangements, and character shifts are considered temporary. Any plot development can be undone at any time. 2. “Science” is subjective. 3. Ultron is NEVER gone. This isn’t the comics, I know, but still, Ultron is the villain known for never being TRULY gone.
@NarfiRef
@NarfiRef 2 жыл бұрын
You’re the first person I’ve encountered that’s actually excited about Kang.
@Raximus3000
@Raximus3000 2 жыл бұрын
Who can take that nose seriously?
@nicholasonciul5770
@nicholasonciul5770 2 жыл бұрын
What!?
@Indigo_Polarity
@Indigo_Polarity 2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Kang is actually just a one-and-done filler villain for Ant Man 3.
@jgarcia4617
@jgarcia4617 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve thought that too.. knowing marvel it’s more than likely to happen.
@khylechristianderosales1894
@khylechristianderosales1894 2 жыл бұрын
Nah he probably gonna be the main bad guy on Phase 4
@thebatman.
@thebatman. 2 жыл бұрын
That would actually be terrible
@oldmanlogan9616
@oldmanlogan9616 2 жыл бұрын
Yes probably
@ivanagustinortiz5237
@ivanagustinortiz5237 2 жыл бұрын
Kang's full name would be revealed as Kangargleon Thisnuts
@sahiluprety
@sahiluprety 2 жыл бұрын
you were right
@joeschmoe1464
@joeschmoe1464 2 жыл бұрын
During the infinity saga, villains could rarely return. We'd get a movie, a small villain, they'd get defeated, we'd move on. No one has a nemesis. Barely any recurring characters. Now, since the MCU isn't leading up to some big finale we can have characters like Kang appear in Loki, come back in Antman, and return in Fantastic 4.
@danteantognetti3213
@danteantognetti3213 2 жыл бұрын
Came out 13 minutes ago and it’s 13 minutes long. Take that time keepers 🤩
@NandovMovies
@NandovMovies 2 жыл бұрын
Boom! I'm so embarrassed for the Time Keepers right now
@v.v365
@v.v365 2 жыл бұрын
If Wanda is using the Darkhold to try and bring her children into existence from another timeline/universe, it’ll be much easier to do that without the TVA
@v.v365
@v.v365 2 жыл бұрын
Endgame: gives us grown-up Cassie Lang, all set to get an Ant-Man suit and become Stature Captain Marvel: sets up Skrulls as sympathetic to make way for Teddy/Hulkling Spiderman FFH: Sets up Skrulls in a secret invasion position to get Skrulls more involved with earth stuff, setting up a way to introduce Teddy/Hulkling WandaVision: introduces Wiccan and Speed and a way to get them as mainstays in the MCU, also reminds us of Skrull side story FATWS: Introduces Patriot but doesn’t set him up to become Patriot yet, we still have yet to see how he gets the serum or his gadgets Loki: introduces Kid Loki and breaks up the TVA so future multiverse shenanigans can really get going To really have Kang, I think we’d need the fantastic four movie to work out well, so Franklin Richards can be born the son of Sue and Reid Richards. At least we know for a fact that a fantastic four movie is on the way.
@komodosworld3199
@komodosworld3199 Жыл бұрын
@@v.v365 Don’t forget Hawkeye and America Chavez. Wouldn’t be surprised if we got Marvel Boy in the Marvels too.
@samarendra109
@samarendra109 2 жыл бұрын
I love how well he predicted the ending the Loki. 🔥❤️
@robk1990
@robk1990 2 жыл бұрын
Wow Nando I’m surprised that you didn’t start this video saying “The TVA isn’t the TVA” Still a solid video from you as always! 👍👍
@zacharypadron783
@zacharypadron783 2 жыл бұрын
This theory would also fix the flimsy explanation of why the “timekeepers” allow the Avengers to time travel but not other variants. Because Immortus knows what has to happen to keep himself from becoming Kang the Conqueror.
@Arkegox
@Arkegox 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats, you hit the nail on the head
@calebcorrea7556
@calebcorrea7556 2 жыл бұрын
he did it spot on
@ThatFreeWilliam
@ThatFreeWilliam 2 жыл бұрын
If we were in the coolest timeline ourselves, then Miss Minutes would be a Rogue AI behind the whole thing and we'd get to watch Tara Strong put on a voice acting masterclass in the last episode. She'd instantly raise the MCU villain bar to a whole new level.
@tyronesilkypatrickmcfitzer1575
@tyronesilkypatrickmcfitzer1575 2 жыл бұрын
*the gayest timeline
@mawinstallation6626
@mawinstallation6626 2 жыл бұрын
@@tyronesilkypatrickmcfitzer1575 *the sussiest timeline
@ironmage6105
@ironmage6105 2 жыл бұрын
no it wouldn't.....regardless of its novelty value it's still an annoyingly squeaky cartoon!
@Grubnar
@Grubnar 2 жыл бұрын
"The TWA is expanding, to meet the needs of the expanding TWA!"
@wallywest4727
@wallywest4727 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really hoping Miss Minutes has a massive role to play purely because it will send Tara's already pretty high career even higher and hopefully get her more high profile voice acting roles.
@privateprivate4315
@privateprivate4315 2 жыл бұрын
I think its "The One Who Remains" it will he the "first" TVA agent who survived the last multiversal war and created the TVA to ensure Kang (who I presume caused the war) does not get free of some type of containment.
@tofu_golem
@tofu_golem 2 жыл бұрын
The performance by Jonathan Majors was stellar! The episode was mostly exposition, mostly by Majors, and instead of being bored, I was transfixed. While I look forward to Kang, I want to see more of this variant!
@thebatman.
@thebatman. 2 жыл бұрын
This theory’s pretty well written. I would like if to be Kang, and to be honest it would really make the most sense. But knowing Marvel, I’m going to expect some other Loki variant to be behind everything, because they like to be “self-contained” (even though like every other MCU project has a crossover)
@lucaspsm125
@lucaspsm125 2 жыл бұрын
It would be weird to present him on the third arct too, if he's the main antagonist of the series.
@monelmonelmonel
@monelmonelmonel 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucaspsm125 Just like how they thought that Mephisto will show up even though it's the last act
@thebatman.
@thebatman. 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucaspsm125 Yeah, but no matter who it is, it’s most likely someone we havent met yet
@thebatman.
@thebatman. 2 жыл бұрын
@@monelmonelmonel Well, Agatha technically showed up in the last parts. She was set up, but not in the traditional way
@monelmonelmonel
@monelmonelmonel 2 жыл бұрын
@@thebatman. At least she was set up in a way that made sense for non-Marvel comics readers, but I guess we'll see soon.
@moonmyers2608
@moonmyers2608 2 жыл бұрын
You did it
@artificialgravitas8954
@artificialgravitas8954 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope they do indeed do Kang, the show has been phenomenal so far and I really hope they stick the landing, if they do this will be my favorite part of the MCU, never thought it would be anything other than Ragnarok until these last few weeks
@calebcorrea7556
@calebcorrea7556 2 жыл бұрын
it your lucky day cause they doooo
@octosalias5785
@octosalias5785 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the TVA (Minutes) made Kang into Immortus by erasing his memory and Renslayer needs Sylvie's enchantment to restore him. Renslayer's memories were accidentally restored when Sylvie bit her, so she took over the TVA. It is possible that some aspect of Kang was only possible in the sacred timeline so the rest had to be taken care of.
@AdamBurtonMusic
@AdamBurtonMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been theorizing the whole time that the TVA is Kang’s method to ensure his existence and dominance, but your theory of Immortus using it to prevent Nathaniel from becoming Kang is interesting!
@thedawg6395
@thedawg6395 2 жыл бұрын
This is so funny and creepy that he’s got it so right without seeing the finale
@rustyAF
@rustyAF 2 жыл бұрын
I came back to watch this to see how right you were and it’s hilarious
@KillahMate
@KillahMate 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched the new ep, and... The thing is, _logically_ yeah it makes the most sense for the 'man behind the curtain' to be Kang. If the MCU were a 'real' place, it would be Kang. But... _...thematically and structurally,_ it _can't_ be Kang. Or at least it can't _only_ be Kang. You can't conclude a Loki TV show that way, it would be completely out of left field and break the entire theme of the show. So Kang might be involved in some way ultimately, sure, but it _has_ to be a variant of Loki himself in that castle. A variant played by Hiddleston at that. He needs to come face to face with a version of himself who's _won_ - who's gotten everything he ever wanted, who rules over literally all of creation - and is utterly alone.
@Nulono
@Nulono 2 жыл бұрын
This comment sure aged well.
@KillahMate
@KillahMate 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nulono Well, they can't all be winners 🤷‍♂️ I didn't know at the time that the show will have a second season - I think that if this has been a miniseries like Wandavision that's likely what would have happened, but now they have a lot more room and don't have to do a quick and clean conclusion like that.
@noyoucant8862
@noyoucant8862 2 жыл бұрын
@@KillahMate They're making a second season, it's confirmed
@hoorahforsnakes
@hoorahforsnakes 2 жыл бұрын
Immortus makes sense because it would be difficult for them to explain the concept of a villain having multiple versions of themselfs in normal situations, but it has been perfectly set up in the show getting us used to the concept of variants beforehand. In fact, a villain that isn't a variant or didn't have variants would feel a bit out of place tbh
@akhilashokan_
@akhilashokan_ 2 жыл бұрын
In Episode 5 Classic Loki told the variant Loki that when thanos attacked he went to a distant planet and stayed there for a log time, without TVA even noticing that. I think the distant planet is what Alioth is protecting, were classic Loki went and killed the creator of TVA and lived there for a very long time.
@Khilkhameth
@Khilkhameth 2 жыл бұрын
It's Miss Minutes. Introduced for two episodes, the absent, her reveal will be enough of a surprise but not COMPLETELY out of left field.
@BaroxDL
@BaroxDL 2 жыл бұрын
So, Nando was right.
@PS4everROCKS
@PS4everROCKS 2 жыл бұрын
Here's your daily reminder that it's *okay* if it ends up not being Kang as long as they pull it off well. Shows aren't defined by unfulfilled promises that were never promised to begin with! Cheers 🥂
@Sebbir
@Sebbir 2 жыл бұрын
What a reasonable thing to say
@womanfan5328
@womanfan5328 2 жыл бұрын
I like woman
@calebcorrea7556
@calebcorrea7556 2 жыл бұрын
turns out it was kang yoooo
@ridzuanmustaffa
@ridzuanmustaffa 2 жыл бұрын
If you watch wandavision, the villain already there from first episode. If you watch falcon winter soldier, the bad people also in there from early episodes. My guess, it is miss minute head of tva
@mawinstallation6626
@mawinstallation6626 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@emirhanproduction8516
@emirhanproduction8516 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's just another Loki
@ridzuanmustaffa
@ridzuanmustaffa 2 жыл бұрын
Emirhan Production yea its possible too
@TheZeitergeist3
@TheZeitergeist3 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like we're gonna get Mephisto'd again, but the most recent ep strongly hints at Kang so here we go again lol
@skele1
@skele1 2 жыл бұрын
So this information about the Young Avengers was the keystone on my Avengers theory I hadn’t realized I was crafting. We’ve watched the Young Avengers form in part, and at the same time we’ve also watched the Dark Avengers form with Madame Hydra. It seems like we were headed for a showdown between this evil Avengers who are the dark reflections of the main Avengers and the Young Avengers, I’m almost positive this will be the next big crossover but it seemed like Kant was separate. You made me realize that Kang is the pin that forms the Young Avengers and is the one who is most likely behind the forming of the Dark Avengers. Meaning Kang isn’t the villain of the next crossover but the reason for it leading to a larger conflict in the future.
@brohiddlesby7010
@brohiddlesby7010 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm...it seems like most of the young avenger characters are being introduced via disney plus shows...which makes me wonder if Young Avengers ends up being a disney plus show while the main avengers get the block buster movies.
@Giondi
@Giondi 2 жыл бұрын
A Young Avengers show would be really cool, kind of Marvel's answer to Teen Titans.
@brohiddlesby7010
@brohiddlesby7010 2 жыл бұрын
@@Giondi Maybe not the most lucrative option but we’re talking characters that haven’t graced even the silver screen until this year.
@Mari0798
@Mari0798 2 жыл бұрын
I was also thinking exactly that!!! The YA will be only a series, probably multiple seasons, with the characters making appearances on the movies, and the “old” avengers still starring the movies. And honestly I’m fine with that, I think it would work well.
@Moshuun
@Moshuun 2 жыл бұрын
He’s also linked to Reed Richards.
@guitarhero8110
@guitarhero8110 2 жыл бұрын
Should be assume then that FanBLACKstic Four is in the works? Not against it if you cast it right. I'm thinking Lakeith Stanfield could make a decent Reed, depending on how he approaches it.
@NandovMovies
@NandovMovies 2 жыл бұрын
Parhaps however Kang also might be related to Doom. It's unclear and I don't think Kang even knows.
@thetf8142
@thetf8142 2 жыл бұрын
I do think Kang will be talked about, but he won’t be introduced in Loki QuantumMania will for sure be about time travel and they’ll discover Kang on accident
@centperk
@centperk 2 жыл бұрын
Bravo.
@harryli5979
@harryli5979 2 жыл бұрын
I feel Kang is just going to be post credits scene
@ItsButterBean1020
@ItsButterBean1020 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah at most I think he’ll show up at the end of the series; referencing that he can finally make moves now that the T.V.A are out of the way
@calebcorrea7556
@calebcorrea7556 2 жыл бұрын
nope he was half the episode yooooooo
@Underscorezeus
@Underscorezeus 2 жыл бұрын
Start predicting more things
@jamescook5783
@jamescook5783 2 жыл бұрын
Well, someone pick up a phone because Nando called it.
@milkiassamuel780
@milkiassamuel780 2 жыл бұрын
I always liked Kang and I loved his appearance on Avengers Earths Mightiest Heroes where even though he was a conqueror he was still a complex villain that just wanted to save the one's he loves and his whole timeline (reminded me of the motivation for Mr Freeze), he was a really nuanced character, so when we eventually do see the debut of Kang the Conqueror in Antman and The Wasp: Quantamania I hope they don't make him just a one-time villain since Nando has proven the potential of this character.
@alejandroortiz4772
@alejandroortiz4772 2 жыл бұрын
Alright. So I've been thinking about how they could get "The Masters of Evil" into the MCU for a while now and I think Kang would be the one to form the team. After being beaten by Ant-Man, probably with the help of the whole Ant-Team, Kang realizes that there is power in numbers. So he hops though time, grabbing Villains just before they're killed. I'm thinking characters that have an off-screen death that could be seen as ambiguous (Hela and Aldrich Killian come to mind) and Kang gives a big speech to them. And, at the end, he tells them something to the affect of. "And when the multiverse is finally ours, it will look up to us and see their true Masters" Boom! Masters of Evil
@OmusKnowsAll
@OmusKnowsAll 2 жыл бұрын
I am from the future... It's Kang
@captainmarvelous7678
@captainmarvelous7678 2 жыл бұрын
Well done Nando
@Pwn3dbyth3n00b
@Pwn3dbyth3n00b 2 жыл бұрын
It's either Kang or a Loki variant
@johnloverman
@johnloverman 2 жыл бұрын
my money is on the theory that ALL variants are Lokis, and one Loki created the TVA to ensure that he is the most powerful version of himself, ever.
@Nimelennar
@Nimelennar 2 жыл бұрын
Lokis all the way down.
@kanekiken......4186
@kanekiken......4186 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnloverman yes you are right kang would not be introduced in mcu movies
@nitink.a567
@nitink.a567 2 жыл бұрын
It could be Loki or Kang, but I have feeling that it's Mobius or Miss Minutes. 😂
@kanekiken......4186
@kanekiken......4186 2 жыл бұрын
@@nitink.a567 monius how mobius can create tva ?
@AndyAdventuring
@AndyAdventuring 2 жыл бұрын
* The Timekeepers are Mobius, Sylvie, and Loki. * The lizard people comment is a self fulfilling joke. * One of the Timekeepers has a mustache. * One of the Timekeepers -- "the one that matters" -- is female in the animation Ms. Minutes shows. * One of the Timekeepers speaks like a snake. * For whatever reason, the 3 of them need to keep time in a loop. * "See you soon hehehehe" * ^ That's old Mobius who is He Who Remains in the MCU * I won't be surprised if Marvel change Kang's backstory to be Loki and Sylvie's child. He is blue after all. He may even make an appearance to throw time into disarray and leave the show with a cliffhanger.
@lettersivewritten
@lettersivewritten 2 жыл бұрын
This sacred timeline reminds me of something I've heard about before: In one version of the Gnostic theology, it is Sophia who causes the earth to be, the ‘fall’, and the redemption of the earth. Sophia was viewed as the lower emanation, who caused the earth to be formed from her desire rather than following the divine plan. This equates to the Sephira of Malkuth in Kabbalah, which is the Earthly Shekinah.
@darkshines800
@darkshines800 2 жыл бұрын
As Loki says when he begins to understand the apparent power of the TVA, 'Is this the greatest power in the universe?'. Well, yes, it probably is. And in my understanding of Kang, he seems to be a character who is primarily curious, and his curiosity reveals power which corrupts him, but at heart he doesn't seem to be inherently evil
@kanekiken......4186
@kanekiken......4186 2 жыл бұрын
No it will be anpther loki behind pr some other but not be kang because it will come in antman 3
@cayfire129
@cayfire129 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, you hit pretty much on the money. Bravo
@tommygunraider6
@tommygunraider6 2 жыл бұрын
I first encountered Kang in Avengers Earth Mightiest Heroes and he was awesome in that
@dcen465
@dcen465 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work
@kimberlyelias4857
@kimberlyelias4857 2 жыл бұрын
coming back to this after the finale and... wow
@greenscollection
@greenscollection 2 жыл бұрын
awesome call, dude! i was so excited for your prediction but didnt think theyd go this epic and, ... here we are. w8 are you Kang? also ... can you please be Nando makes movies? thx
@abiylakew3328
@abiylakew3328 2 жыл бұрын
That was a brilliant plug
@cbmatty9262
@cbmatty9262 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s evil Loki for 2 reasons. 1. It makes sense to finish Loki’s character arc from the show. To truly change, you need to face the worst of yourself, plus the theme of “what makes a Loki” and more specifically, “what makes a superior Loki” has been constant in this show, it makes sense the true end boss is the strongest of all the Lokis. 2. I think for any non comic fan watching the show, it’s definitely less satisfying for some random guy they have never heard of. If it is evil Loki, maybe we’ll learn he got help from Kang, and maybe Kang shows up in the past credit scene, people will be intrigued and be more excited to see him in future marvel movies.
@CaptainMera
@CaptainMera 2 жыл бұрын
So a loki (sylvie) really do bring on Ragnarök like in the myths. If we see breaking the sacred timeline as bringing on ragnarök.
@camerondawes1898
@camerondawes1898 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason I hope it’s not just kang was behind everything is that the ant man doesn’t come out until 2023 and that seems kinda a ways away
@PenitusVox
@PenitusVox 2 жыл бұрын
Prepare for the long wait!
@alexandrefrauches132
@alexandrefrauches132 2 жыл бұрын
I love your pitch dude! I think the idea of Kang invading Earth with a army of different versions of the Avengers could work perfectly in a New Avengers movie, with the avengers successors (Lady Thor, She Hulk, Shang Chi, War Machine and others) having to assemble and defeat this variants of the original avengers, proving that they are the true successors of the original avengers and the ones who will continue their legacy. PS: I think the avengers vs kang movie title should be "Avengers Kang Dynasty"
@fortinjack77
@fortinjack77 2 жыл бұрын
I love your contents Nando. :D But I do think, is Miss Minutes, a back-up, A.I, version of the Time Keepers, that is running the show, with a few, hidden fail safes, should the TVA fails and immortus is their version of a successor. Thank you very much, for your wonderful and insight contents. :D
@man-spider389
@man-spider389 2 жыл бұрын
Only chance of Kang appearing in Loki is if he's "behind the scenes" like Thanos in Avengers 1 while the one running the TVA is carrying out his work. Miss Minutes, Renslayer or a Loki variant. Its that or no Kang at all and he'll pop up in Quantumania, then keep showing up after that (through original or variant version)
@PenitusVox
@PenitusVox 2 жыл бұрын
Well, you weren't necessarily super far off!
@notEJM
@notEJM 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think kang will be in Loki. If he is he'll be in the final post credit scene thanos style. Explained in comments
@daraghokane4236
@daraghokane4236 2 жыл бұрын
Na don't do the same thing again
@notEJM
@notEJM 2 жыл бұрын
@@daraghokane4236 well he's not gonna be in the show. They can't give him too much character because Marvel has said "you don't have to watch the shows to understand the movies". They're not going to introduce a major character before his introduction. They would have to repeat and recap to make it understandable for those who haven't seen the show introduction. So they will repeat thanos' first appearance if kang is in Loki because it's one line and a quick glimpse into something bigger. Then they can explain him in quantumania. They want to make it as easy to understand as possible. That would be the easiest way for the average moviegoer who doesn't care about marvel understand what's going on. It's not endgame level yet. It's the beginning. They can't really do too many call backs and cross references or it becomes too much. But that's just my opinion and what I would do if I were involved with it
@daraghokane4236
@daraghokane4236 2 жыл бұрын
@@notEJM they could have multiple versions of kang the council of kangs is in the comics so you can have multiple first instructions of kang. Also with time travel he could have already met ant man
@notEJM
@notEJM 2 жыл бұрын
@@daraghokane4236 that would just be too complicated too soon for people who don't care about the comics. I love the comics and think it would be super cool but i just don't feel it's likely
@daraghokane4236
@daraghokane4236 2 жыл бұрын
@@notEJM no it's easy to understand Rick and morty had multiple Ricks. Into the spider verse this isn't a new or hard to understand idea it's been done in kids shows my little pony had twilight talk to her future self four years olds got it
@silentbill7189
@silentbill7189 2 жыл бұрын
I constantly forget that I have a Nebula Plus account, until the moment when it gets name dropped (here around 2:30). At which point I invariably go watch the rest on Nebula. So cheers for that, I'll get it right eventually!
@kieran10202
@kieran10202 2 жыл бұрын
Time-Keeper = Clock. Clock = Miss Minutes. We know she can possess TVA tech, so she can control the androids. We know she's not a variant because she's not organic. If you were 3 space lizards who wanted to prune timelines, why do it yourself? Why not create an AI and have it manipulate variants against variation?
@ghshady3497
@ghshady3497 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was thinking
@mawinstallation6626
@mawinstallation6626 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. It can only be an already introduced character. Miss Minutes.
@Theraot
@Theraot 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, I like this version of the theory. So we don't exactly see Kang in Loki. We see Inmortus. And we never see it again. If you only watch the movies, you can pretend Inmortus was never in the MCU. So Loki remains not required viewing.
@Kjack49044
@Kjack49044 2 жыл бұрын
Feige has said that Loki will have the biggest effect on the MCU yet of any D+ show
@8Bitnoobgamer
@8Bitnoobgamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kjack49044 I mean the biggest effect will probably be the multiverse
@princessofglower3514
@princessofglower3514 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kjack49044 the implications of the TVA’s existence has already proven to have a huge impact. Pair that with physically different variants and you’ve got a machine that can pump out as many recasts of beloved characters as they want.
@Theraot
@Theraot 2 жыл бұрын
Do you remember in Battle World when Spider-Man went looking for the machine that reconstructs suits, that Deadpool was there and pointed Spider-Man towards the symbiote? Arguably Deadpool had a huge impact on the story of Spider-Man. However, that is not required reading. You might as well think Spider-Man picked the wrong machine because there were nobody there whom to ask. That is what readers were lead to believe for a while, because, in fact, the Deadpool story was a retcon. Well, like that. "huge impact" and "not required viewing".
@katherinealvarez9216
@katherinealvarez9216 2 жыл бұрын
Im going with Kang, because I wanna see Jonathan Majors in that suit. Also, Kid Loki is now in the MCU! He's probably going to be in the show for like 10 minutes but he's here! 😸
@partymix1997
@partymix1997 2 жыл бұрын
Yay for some reason
@katherinealvarez9216
@katherinealvarez9216 2 жыл бұрын
@@partymix1997 😆 depends on the execution. But yay for me and anyone else who might be wanting to see the Young Avengers and Kid Loki in general
@justicerice3589
@justicerice3589 2 жыл бұрын
This video has gotten me the most excited for the future of the MCU. Just imaging the possibilities of Kangs presence makes me giddy.
@Frost_Talks
@Frost_Talks 2 жыл бұрын
I’m new to the channel, but this is a Great video tbh
@NandovMovies
@NandovMovies 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Frost! Welcome to the channel!
@TheAngryDuckling123
@TheAngryDuckling123 2 жыл бұрын
This theory makes total sense. Only problem is that marvel has said the shows aren't required viewing, just like mephisto I doubt that they will unveil a huge multiversial/thanos level threat on a show. That why i think its just another loki.
@Quinhala11
@Quinhala11 2 жыл бұрын
They say that about every movie, you didn't/don't need to watch the dozens of Marvel movies to watch Endgame And even then, they introduced Wanda's kids in Wandavision, if it 'wasnt necessary' how do they plan to explain why she suddently has 10 year old children now?
@swint12
@swint12 2 жыл бұрын
Nailed it
@jaspinflame670
@jaspinflame670 2 жыл бұрын
Kang just feels like the new Mathisto, it does seam two obvious, for the writers
@NandovMovies
@NandovMovies 2 жыл бұрын
He could be Mephisto but he could be Agatha. Sometimes obvious works.
@Theraot
@Theraot 2 жыл бұрын
@@NandovMovies Plot twist: Ralph Bohner is behind the TVA. And his line is "You didn't see that coming?"
@tutorialslave
@tutorialslave 2 жыл бұрын
@@suzygirl1843 ... and what if he's being challenged by Benioff and Weiss who are trying to make slavery last up to present-day?
@tutorialslave
@tutorialslave 2 жыл бұрын
@@suzygirl1843 I was referring to the Game of Thrones writers who were pondering a follow-up project by the name of "Confederate" wherein slavery hadn't been abolished. Of course, it never came to fruition. But it still makes me cringe what might've been had they stuck the landing with GoT. Would HBO actually have gone through with such a tone-deaf, disgusting premise? On topic: Jonathan Majors is an amazing, versatile actor and if Feige chooses to inject a relevant motivation into his characterization without going about it preachy or heavy-handed, having Kang attempt to wipe out slavery could be an intriguing prospect.
@Nulono
@Nulono 2 жыл бұрын
We've actually already seen Mister Hyde in the MCU!
@AverageDrafter
@AverageDrafter 2 жыл бұрын
Right before you pulled out the whiteboard I was just like "It's Kang... It's totally Kang, right?" "It's Kang."
@AxeloftheKey
@AxeloftheKey 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this just all makes the most sense. I'm hype.
@TFalconwing
@TFalconwing 2 жыл бұрын
Bold of you to make this video when there's only three episodes left.
@brohiddlesby7010
@brohiddlesby7010 2 жыл бұрын
My only exposure to Kang the Conqueror was the Disney XD show Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, and from what I remember he was pretty interesting. The way they adapted the character, though, was more like Mr. Freeze in that he had a wife he needed to save, but he also needed to change the timeline away from a dark future he believed was caused by Captain America. So basically, the Kang I got to know was a Mr. Freeze knockoff/Anti-Hero, which in of itself is not bad and kinda cool.
@koalasquare2145
@koalasquare2145 2 жыл бұрын
Could you include a link to the nebula video so I can watch it afterwards?
@NandovMovies
@NandovMovies 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! nebula.app/videos/nando-who-is-really-running-the-tva-loki-theory
@matthiesoliveira2458
@matthiesoliveira2458 2 жыл бұрын
It just doesn’t make sense to introducing the villain that’s never been mentioned before in the last two episodes. It would have to be a character that already exists in the show.
@hopebringer2348
@hopebringer2348 2 жыл бұрын
Mobius is a Kang variant
@CapitaoAmerica737
@CapitaoAmerica737 2 жыл бұрын
It's gonna be Miss Minutes, but she'll lead to Kang at the last episode. Probably in a post credit scene.
@BakaryD
@BakaryD 2 жыл бұрын
There will be a mention ofnKang, maybe a post credits scene
@spellegren
@spellegren 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The Disney Plus shows have been pretty on the nose, and it seems like they want to save major villain reveals for the films. I think it is Loki all the way down.?
@pedrogarcia8706
@pedrogarcia8706 2 жыл бұрын
Like Agatha
@erubin100
@erubin100 2 жыл бұрын
So Kang is Kamen Rider Diend, but more "conquery" rather than "stealy?"
@jordiwolff875
@jordiwolff875 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you @erubin100
@RibbitGamingSubscribe
@RibbitGamingSubscribe 2 жыл бұрын
I think its miss minutes and not kang, as miss minutes is featured so prominently in the poster
@TheChrisHype
@TheChrisHype 2 жыл бұрын
I adore how this video is pretty much the opposite spectrum of ComicDrake’s Kang video.
@brunopereira6789
@brunopereira6789 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think Kang will appear in the Loki show (perhaps as a post-credit scene), but I love the idea that the dissolution of the TVA will allow him to start his conquering
@wolflower666
@wolflower666 2 жыл бұрын
another possible theory that could tie in Kang is that the place Loki and Sylvie are about to go is the Halls Of All-Knowing, and they will meet the Children Of Eternity. and we find out that the children gave an alternate Loki the ability to create the TVA to change his fate! (maybe even infinity war Loki)… then the teaser at the end of the show could be that we see the Children (Then & Now) reporting to Kang.
@jmouton337
@jmouton337 2 жыл бұрын
Kang is awesome really liked his arc in Avengers EMH. Hope it gets adapted into the MCU.
@danieldishon688
@danieldishon688 2 жыл бұрын
I knew most of this, but I hadn't thought of the Sacred Timeline as being Immortus way of ensuring he never becomes Kang, and Loki ending the Sacred Timeline as opening up the inevitable return of Kang who Immortus pruned in the original multiverse.
@gabevochoa
@gabevochoa 2 жыл бұрын
That segway to the sponsor was brilliant
@partymix1997
@partymix1997 2 жыл бұрын
#kang is frog Thor possessed by mephisto
@robertzarfas9556
@robertzarfas9556 2 жыл бұрын
Nice drawing of Kang!
@NandovMovies
@NandovMovies 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I love those colors
@shadeblackwolf1508
@shadeblackwolf1508 2 жыл бұрын
The MCU has a severe shortage of mustache twirling villains who don't care who gets hurt. It's the best of classic movies, when the villains are not the poor unfortunate souls ursula sings about.
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly! I would love to see more campy villains!
@Stormcastlecomics
@Stormcastlecomics 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen many Loki theory videos and you are the only one so far that has mentioned Immortus who I also think is the big bad in Loki. This really looks like one of his schemes honestly and I am so hoping they go this route. Kang is way too obvious.
@samanderson4166
@samanderson4166 2 жыл бұрын
What part of the nail is above the head? Whatever that is, you smashed that.
@Gr3nadgr3gory
@Gr3nadgr3gory 2 жыл бұрын
My friend's theory is its The Living Tribunal, they've mentioned them in passing before.
@dr.mund0339
@dr.mund0339 2 жыл бұрын
Still haven't seen a video on my theory that ren slayer is "he who remains" the way she dont seem to be bothered by the time keepers and the way miss minutes saves her, And the way Wanda vision made us think there was gona be, mephisto and xmen and a new great actor...all distractions. The same with all the kang stuff just a distraction for internet nerds, normal people who dont watch youtube are clueless that kang could be connected
@gamerdweebentertainment1616
@gamerdweebentertainment1616 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how Marvel releases a show... character introduction, BOOM all the mysteries solved...
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