Who Were the First Humans on British Shores?

Who Were the First Humans on British Shores? | The Story of 'Cheddar Man'

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'Who Were the First Humans on British Shores? | The Story of 'Cheddar Man'
If the words British history conjure up images of Elizabeth I, Shakespeare, Boudica, Mary Seacole, The Beatles and the Blitz, you’re squinting at a small spec of the history of humanity of these Isles. Even if you go back to the Roman invasion of Britain in 43 AD, or even further to the Iron Age or the Bronze Age, you’re still only looking at 1% of humankind’s story in this land.
This is a 900,000 year old story of ice ages, glaciers and hunter gatherers. Of lions, hyenas, hippos, rhinos and woolly mammoths. Of archaeological discoveries like Cheddar Man, who was once thought to be the oldest Englishman who ever lived.
The story of the First Britons is a story of a species that would come and go many times before calling this land home. A story that has travel, and the movement of people, at its heart.
So what do we know about these early migrants to Britain’s shores? Travel writer Noo Saro-Wiwa talks us through the story of the First Britons, while Dr Selina Brace explains how her team at the Natural History Museum were able to extract DNA from Cheddar Man.
Film directed by Mark Bowsher.
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@rachelkristine4669 Жыл бұрын

Maybe the hole in his head signifies that he is actually Swiss, not Cheddar?! 🤔 Either way, this story sounds a bit cheesy to me! 🤷‍♀️

@suzz1776 Жыл бұрын

😂

@bennyworm4384 Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@cherihayward350 Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@velvetunderpants44 Жыл бұрын

10/10

@ingridgallagher1029 Жыл бұрын

Ok dad

@benmacdui9328 Жыл бұрын

"First humans on British shores" implies an island. Britain was still joined to mainland Europe when humans first came.

@whynottalklikeapirat Жыл бұрын

Mainlands have shores, and waterways generally connects cultures rather than land, we know this from studies of traded language and culture. So I guess maybe it all depends on where those first humans were supposed to come from and how they got there. Then again - how seafaring they actually were at the time, I have no idea, but humans always did crazy, desperate or plain stupid stuff and sometimes it pays off.

@4wdflying Жыл бұрын

Britain was an island before the more recent glacial advances too, it is mentioned about 12 minutes in.

@whynottalklikeapirat Жыл бұрын

@@4wdflying They never could make up their mind about their connection with the rest of Europe 😂

@28704joe Жыл бұрын

She said "these shores". Placing her in present tense. Implying anything but the current island status would be incorrect.

@jackaustin3576 Жыл бұрын

Benmacdui9328....You didn't listen to the entire video....

@daejavue69 Жыл бұрын

Oxford University scientists announced Friday 9 Mar 1997 that Adrian Targett, 42, a history teacher in the large Village (pop of 5500) of Cheddar in southwest England, shares a common ancestor with Cheddar Man. It is the longest human lineage ever traced, the team of scientists from the university's Institute of Molecular Medicine said.

@allinaday9882 Жыл бұрын

Wow. Pretty amazing! Thanks!🎉😊❤

@cw9007 Жыл бұрын

They shared the same mitochondrial haplogroup, which isn't quite the same as being directly related.

@thelink4492 Жыл бұрын

rubbish just because he has dna related dosnt mean he related from him

@luizcsevero Жыл бұрын

Technically, anyone on earth shares a common ancestor with Cheddar man, or with anyone else for that matter.

@cw9007 Жыл бұрын

@@luizcsevero That's true. Cheddar man had the mtdna haplogroup U5, which the teacher also had. This is the connection which people are misinterpreting to mean that the teacher was a direct descendant. What it actually means is both Cheddar man and the teacher were both descended from the woman in which U5 originated.

@Vlognayshyall Жыл бұрын

Britain has always been a land where people come and go, except, Cheddar man's people, the Western-Hunter-Gatherers, went nowhere. Rather they were replaced by the farming population. This doesn't mean they all decided to just leave the land to the farmers, this meant they were taken over by the farmers. Interestingly, we see in Britain and Ireland that phenotypes associated with these Western hunter-gatherers remained amongst the ruling elite of the later farming societies. This is in contrast to the typical continental setting where we see the farmers actively waging war against the Western hunter-gatherer populations during the neolithic. Yet then again, the farmers that replaced Cheddar man's people, were then replaced, by force, by the Bell Beaker people as this video mentions, but the farmers did not leave peacefully. We see instead up to 90% of the farming society's people disappear, with an almost complete and significant population replacement, by a society that was notorious for it's warrior-graves. However, British people are essentially still Bell Beakers. In Ireland and Wales, most of their ancestors and paternal lineages are of indigenous beaker origin. In Scotland, most of their ancestry and paternal lineages are also of Beaker origin. In England, they have less native Beaker ancestry, but the ancestors of the English from the continent, e.g. the various Germanic tribes, were ultimately also of Beaker origin, however they were continental beaker people. 4,500 years of a relatively stable population of Beaker-descendent people. Beaker people themselves being descendants of both Western-Hunter-Gatherers and the farmers. It's not really comparable to modern migration.

@just.some.things3945 Жыл бұрын

Regarding the bell beaker culture, due to their lack of any records or dna evidence, we don’t know for sure whether they were a cohesive ethnicity or were merely a very loosely similar group of people, we have to remember just how wide their range was. We also don’t know whether they were pre indo European or an early form of their European migrations. Assuming they were pre indo European, this would mean that the Celtic cultural shift and later Germanic migrations were quite unrelated indeed, contrary to what you said. If they were indo European, then that would mean that the point you made regarding the dissimilarity between the cultures migrating is only one step removed from the dissimilarity of any indo European culture (almost all of europe, Persians, most indians/Pakistanis) The bottom line is that the line being drawn is necessarily rather arbitrary as the native peoples at the time always identified the incoming culture as foreign, be it the through the assimilation of foreign culture for the benefit of trade like with the celts, or the violent replacement turning to assimilation of the Anglo Saxon migrations

@just.some.things3945 Жыл бұрын

Just to add on the point claiming the beaker people are descended from western hunter gatherers, this may be true, but cannot be simultaneously with the idea that they also spawned the Germanic people, who most certainly were indo European in nature, who migrated into Europe after the original farmers in Western Europe had established themselves

@Vlognayshyall Жыл бұрын

@@just.some.things3945 Beaker people descend from Western Hunter Gatherers in two distinct ways. Beakers paternal ancestry (western steppe herder, indo-european) consisted mostly of Eastern Hunter-Gatherers who themselves were a hybrid between a early Western Hunter-Gatherer population (maternally) and an Ancient North Eurasian population paternally, with early Eastern Hunter-Gatherers having up to 90% ANE ancestry, and a smaller part WSG ancestry... Beakers also descend from WSH by way of the Early European Farmers who consisted partially of Anatolian Farmer ancestry and Western Hunter-Gatherer ancestry. Anatolian farmers also being ultimately derived from a South-Eastern population of Western Hunter-Gatherers. Bell-Beaker people were Indo-European, they were the predecessors of Germanic culture, as well as Celtic, and Latin cultures. They derived from the Single-Grave Corded Ware culture, who were also Indo-European. The Corded Ware's earliest individuals we know of were up to 90% Western-Steppe-Herder in origin (Sredny Stog, e.g. the Proto-Indo-Europeans.) Germanic culture was actually birthed out of the Nordic Bronze Age, where we have in the Scandinavian context a ruling elite of males who were paternal descendants of Western Hunter-Gatherers as we can tell by their haplogroups. However their ancestral population was known as Scandinavian Hunter-Gatherers who were roughly half Western Hunter-Gatherer through their paternal lines, and half Eastern Hunter-Gatherer by their maternal lines. Germanic culture was then a combination of the various branches of Corded Ware, including the Beakers in a West-Germanic context, as well as a combining with the native culture of the Scandinavian Hunter-Gatherers known in the Bronze-Age context as the Pitted Ware Culture (a deeply war-like, maritime culture, similar to later Germanic culture).

@Vlognayshyall Жыл бұрын

@@just.some.things3945 We know the Bell Beaker Culture was not nessercerily a singular ethnic group, we do know however that a population of Bell Beaker culture people from the mouth of the Rhine were a singular ethnic group who were responsible for the birth of pre-celtic British cultures, and Celtic cultures. It is possible to see this both by examining autosomal DNA of the early samples but also by the spread of a specific subclade of R1B at the time which seemed to originate in this area of the Netherlands.

@admiralbenbow5083 Жыл бұрын

I have heard that Bell Ends are an ancient offshoot of the Bell Beakers.

@michelefritchie6198 Жыл бұрын

I once read they did a DNA comparison on Cheddar Man with local people, and they found one gentleman who was a descendant of Cheddar Man. His wife remarked her husband was rather fond of rare meat.

@alfresco8442 10 ай бұрын

Yes. Adrian Targett...a retired history teacher from Cheddar itself. His mitochondrial DNA shows a direct link via his mother's side. I believe that was established by a sample taken from a molar, not from the ear bone mentioned in this clip.

@SvendBosanvovski 8 ай бұрын

Yes. The late Bryan Sykes did the early DNA research on Cheddar Man and wrote about it in his wonderful book on the genetic roots of Brits and Irish. He tracked down the chap you mention, who lived near the gorge. Astonishing when you think about it.

@VikingSimon2503 7 күн бұрын

His name is Adrian Targett.

@cyankirkpatrick5194 Жыл бұрын

They found his distance relative through a DNA through his mother side he was shocked and he said that it's a interesting thing to be apart of a family older than the current monarch. He had black hair and blue eyes.

@DaveSCameron Жыл бұрын

And how big was his ****

@ronnietexan Жыл бұрын

@@DaveSCameron Separated by 10,000 years but linked by DNA! A 9,000 year old skeleton’s DNA was tested and it was concluded that a living relative was teaching history about a half mile away, tracing back nearly 300 generations! Four years before, when Adrian Targett, a retired history teacher from Somerset, walked into his local news-agent’s, he was startled to see a familiar face staring up at him. That face, appearing on the front page of several newspapers, belonged to a distant relative of his - around 10,000 years distant, actually - known as Cheddar Man. Ancient DNA from Cheddar Man, a Mesolithic skeleton discovered in 1903 at Gough’s Cave in Cheddar Gorge, Somerset, has helped Museum scientists paint a portrait of one of the oldest modern humans in Britain. This discovery is consistent with a number of other Mesolithic human remains discovered throughout Europe. Cheddar Man is the oldest complete skeleton to be discovered in the UK and has long been hailed as the first modern Briton who lived around 7,150 BC. His remains are kept by London’s Natural History Museum, in the Human Evolution gallery. dailyxpresss.com/an-english-teacher-of-history-and-a-9000-year-old-cheddar-man-have-the-same-dna/

@PeteV80 Жыл бұрын

I'm related to Cheddar Man. So is nearly every Native Brit

@ronnietexan Жыл бұрын

@@PeteV80 Not if current "right-think" has its way. The department of truth is trying to educate us on all the history people "forgot" to write down, LOL!

@evillimey6965 Жыл бұрын

@@PeteV80 Did you not watch this to the end 😂 I don’t know why you assume that as that’s not true, less than 10% have DNA related to ‘Cheddar man’, most ethnic English are descendants of the Bell-Beaker people 5000 years ago, the last study put the figure at 90%, Estonians have more in common with WHG (cheddar man) than you do, the whole story has been twisted by people with a political agenda

@lisakilmer2667 Жыл бұрын

Well done! But I do have a bone to pick: early remains are labeled "cannibals" when there is actually only evidence of de-fleshing of bones, not what was done with that flesh. Many people groups de-flesh bones in order to release the spirit.

@JP-hr7ch Жыл бұрын

She's trying to make out that Cheddar man was more advanced, less barbaric, than the earlier inhabitants and must be of more recent African descent etc. Despite the fact that it's complete nonsense. Cannibalism has in fact been reported in several African regions as recently as 2007.

@twonumber22 Жыл бұрын

@@JP-hr7ch Nice strawman.

@twonumber22 Жыл бұрын

@@JP-hr7ch And you didn't even watch the video the first time you made a nonsense comment. Lmao, a completely head-empty reactionary review, my guy.

@magicknight8412 Жыл бұрын

These are experts and this is their day to day job, they know more than you and I !

@lisakilmer2667 Жыл бұрын

I didn't say the documentary is wrong, just leaping to a conclusion. All they needed to do was insert the word "possibly".

@michellebwilson2610 Жыл бұрын

Poor explanation of whether he’s a direct ancestor. Yes, he is, if he left descendants, because he lived before the Identical Ancestors Point. He is a member of the WHG population, Western Hunter Gatherers. From Wikipedia “This population forms about 10%, on average , of the ancestry of Britons without a recent family history of immigration.” So yes, he (or his contemporaries who left descendants) make up 10% of the typical British ancestry, and a smaller proportion of the ancestry of everybody else.

@thelink4492 Жыл бұрын

rubbish we have none of his dna and even if that was true it would be less then 5%

@JM-The_Curious Жыл бұрын

But his WHG ancestors might have moved to the Isles 9000 years ago, while the ancestors of another person descended from WHG people didn't come until 5000 or 1000 years ago. There are a lot of people in the British Isles who would share a common ancestor with Cheddar Man, yes, but that alone doesn't make him or a contemporary living in Cheddar at that time, ancestral. The IAP for Cheddar Man and any other person would have to be at least dated to his 'age', but it could be 5000 years or 50,000 years before he lived.

@patrickrose1221 Жыл бұрын

Why mention Ms Seacoal? She was a trader !

@Matt_Alaric Жыл бұрын

Because she black, and we all have to admire black people nowadays...

@asonofharoldgodwin Жыл бұрын

Too right fella, they have to crowbar them in at every opportunity ! Would have liked to watch the whole vid. but i couldn't take anymore !

@forbiddenrecallskillinguss4012 Жыл бұрын

A load of Leftist propaganda. I nearly threw up watching it.

@nre1553 Жыл бұрын

History with bias is not history. I could not watch the whole thing either, pure cringe.

@ringtail1410 2 ай бұрын

And she wasn't British either.

@oldman2800 Жыл бұрын

The thing is homosapien is a wanderer. Always moving, some of us have made incredible efforts to travel others "settle down". Our monogamy makes moving a lot easier than for a polygamous communities who would have to have a planning committee meeting b4 they could do anything

@kayzium67 Жыл бұрын

I was totally captivated by this show, I live very close to Cheddar gorges, and when it all closes at about 5.30pm, I have been in the Gorges for a late picnic with family and friends, and the mountain Goats that still climb wildly upwards on what look like a giant stairway, you cant help but feel you are trapped in time. In an age that could of been 10,000 years ago or 100,000 years ago, until a car or motorbike brings you back to today.

@TalibanSymphonyOrchestra Жыл бұрын

Have a mushroom.

@Earnshawfully Жыл бұрын

"....In an age that could of been 10,000 years ago" *....could have been 10,000 years ago. (Not of.)

@chegeny Жыл бұрын

Didn't Adrian Targett from Cheddar link his mitochondrial DNA back to Cheddar Man? I believe it happened back twenty-five years ago or so..

@stephfoxwell4620 Жыл бұрын

1998.

@Youngwithanoldsoul Ай бұрын

Whitewashed history

@dewiowen3010 Жыл бұрын

Strange calling the The Oldest Englishman. English or England did not exit ten thousand years ago. The oldest Britain would be a more accurate title for this.

@burrellbikes4969 Жыл бұрын

I agree, for a more accurate identification. The individual should be identified an a Briton.

@King_Alfred_849 Жыл бұрын

The oldest Briton, would be an even more accurate description. This skeleton has no connection to the English of the later Anglo-Saxons!

@dewiowen3010 Жыл бұрын

The Celts did live in Britain before the Saxons came from Germany.

@christopherellis2663 Жыл бұрын

Briton, but they are recent arrivals too.

@peterchessell28 Жыл бұрын

Briton is the singular.

@traceyobrien4505 Жыл бұрын

My irish father has quite a bit of DNA from Cheddar nan. I have confirmed it through about 6 other DNA sites and they all come back to him. He also has DNA from that part of England and lots of DNA matches from the South West..

@eggymixes Жыл бұрын

Cheddar nan - bet she made great scones.

@thelink4492 Жыл бұрын

Irish are celts they have none of cheddar mans dna

@lordvadertheleftie9703 Жыл бұрын

@@eggymixes cheddar nan is a speciality in my local Indian.

@georgecooke5750 Жыл бұрын

I’m apparently 31% Irish and mostly English and some Northern European, the Irish family originated in Waterford Southern Ireland and many of the people there mixed with the Basque, these people have there own language and apparently the Persian farmers from the Fertile Crescent moved there and mixed with the local hunter gatherers. That’s the problem with dna it’s throws up all sorts of things but interesting.

@pjaybasmaignee Жыл бұрын

@@eggymixes yoooo I hate you bro 😂😂😂

@bobulationnation 7 ай бұрын

My grandmother told me it doesn't matter what they tell you at school Chedder man was not made of cheese

@peteregan3862 Жыл бұрын

People have only left the islands of Great Britain and Ireland due to the advance of ice sheets - driven out by nature, not choice.

@653j521 5 ай бұрын

Funny concept, not leaving "by choice," as if people back then could have sat down, discussed the matter, decided their best chance after looking at their options, packed up what they thought they would need where they were going, and set off. :)

@wild_running Жыл бұрын

A very enjoyable watch, ably presented. A subject I'm always interested in. I feel I've learnt something.

@jimmyhawk3270 Жыл бұрын

@20:19, "...people coming into the UK..." A common mistake among many people, calling ancient Briton the UK (United Kingdom), which only came into existence, somewhat recently, with the Act of Union in 1801 as a political entity.

@straighttalking2090 Жыл бұрын

Good point. There is the tricky matter of the ancient greeks calling us something like Bretannikē and the ancient celts called it Pretani which give credence to the name being older but the Act of Union is a good official rubber stamp we can all point to.

@Paul-hl8yg Жыл бұрын

This is true Doggerland about 8000 years ago. Thousands of mammoth tusks lay on the bottom of the North sea today, spearheads & neanderthal remains. The British isles were once the western highest points of that one land mass. Perhaps humans in these higher areas after the flooding remained here. There seems to have been different sea levels at different times around these isles & in humanities time. The Isle of Wright for instance was according to the Romans, waded out to knee deep from what is now southern England. Then ancient tin mines in Cornwall are now at the bottom of the channel. Northern Ireland's Giants causeway is written in myth as being a bridge across to Scotland. In Scotland the same rock formations can be found. Did it once form a stretch across the Irish sea, now deep below the waters & ancients witnessed it? We were Britons before the Romans, the Greeks more or less called us that. Did we call us that or was that their name for us? Stonehenge was seen as sacred to peoples from the Scottish isles to mainland Europe long before the Romans & Greeks. Perhaps we had a national identity going very far back?

@ahronthegreat 9 ай бұрын

So fkn what splitting hairs you know what they mean the land ffs😂😂

@Knards Жыл бұрын

Why not upload his DNA to GEDMatch? They have an Archaic Matches table there that you can match your DNA to known DNA samples up to 20,000+ years ago

@ronnietexan Жыл бұрын

Already been done, over twenty years ago! Separated by 10,000 years but linked by DNA! A 9,000 year old skeleton’s DNA was tested and it was concluded that a living relative was teaching history about a half mile away, tracing back nearly 300 generations! Four years before, when Adrian Targett, a retired history teacher from Somerset, walked into his local news-agent’s, he was startled to see a familiar face staring up at him. That face, appearing on the front page of several newspapers, belonged to a distant relative of his - around 10,000 years distant, actually - known as Cheddar Man. Ancient DNA from Cheddar Man, a Mesolithic skeleton discovered in 1903 at Gough’s Cave in Cheddar Gorge, Somerset, has helped Museum scientists paint a portrait of one of the oldest modern humans in Britain. This discovery is consistent with a number of other Mesolithic human remains discovered throughout Europe. Cheddar Man is the oldest complete skeleton to be discovered in the UK and has long been hailed as the first modern Briton who lived around 7,150 BC. His remains are kept by London’s Natural History Museum, in the Human Evolution gallery. dailyxpresss.com/an-english-teacher-of-history-and-a-9000-year-old-cheddar-man-have-the-same-dna/

@Knards Жыл бұрын

@@ronnietexan I refer to the GEDMatch website, where anyone who uploads his DNA can compare to archaic DNA.

@ronnietexan Жыл бұрын

@@Knards You said "upload his DNA", and I replied that they have and they found an ancestor called Adrian Targett.

@Knards Жыл бұрын

@@ronnietexan I said upload his DNA to GEDMatch. You wont find a 300 generation ancestor on that site, but you can find out how much you match his DNA. Along with over 100 other samples from deep in the past.

@ronnietexan Жыл бұрын

@@Knards If, as you say it goes back 20,000+ years and "Cheddar man" is a little over 10,000 years old, what has that to do with the fact I told you that they have matched his DNA with a resident of Cheddar who is alive today? are you a salesman for that company?

@elizabethford7263 8 ай бұрын

We need more of this kind of program! One that doesn't assume we are as we have always been. We need new perspectives in Anthropology.

@LS-xs7sg 8 ай бұрын

@elizabethford7263 You are presenting a strawman. Nobody thinks things have always been the same. As far as I can see the controversy around cheddar man largely derives from attempts by modern liberals to associate the supposedly dark skin (which is debated about) of Western Hunter Gatherers with the dark skin of modern africans. The truth is that the closest living descendents of Cheddar Man are the pre-1950s white population of britain. Which is rather ironic considering the political hay people like Afua Hirsch are making about dark skin. Aboriginal Australians and Africans both have dark skin. It doesnt mean they were closely related populations or have any interest in merging as peoples

@Gozzillacia 7 ай бұрын

But it's a hoax - and has been exposed as a hoax. Genuine DNA experts have witnesses you cannot determine skin colour from ancient DNA - this is woke propaganda, designed to erase the idea of a British people.

@TmanRock9 7 ай бұрын

@@Gozzillaciano serious geneticist will say such a thing, dna very obviously can tell you the skin color of a person.

@Gozzillacia 6 ай бұрын

@@TmanRock9 No it cannot -- if you have a good sample it can give you a range of possibilities from lighter to darker. It cannot give you a definitive colour - what the Cheddar hoaxers did is pick the darkest part of the suggested spectrum. And - the researchers here only had a tiny, degraded sample to work on. What this bollox is obviously about is the woke re-writing of our history as witnessed by the BBC's even more disreputable attempt to pretend Britain has a black history of any significance or age - their "Been here from the Start" bollox pop promo. The irony is - even if Cheddar man had darker skin than we Brits today - that was because he may have been from a line of Eastern Europeans - nothing to do with Africa as the wokesters are implying.

@sahulianhooligan7046 6 ай бұрын

@@GozzillaciaI have a question for you, Do you believe global warming is a hoax, the covid pandemic was planned and 9/11 was organised? I noticed people who believe Cheddar Man was white tend to say yes to the questions I just asked

@susangore9457 Жыл бұрын

on the news today in Lancashire they discovered a cave with remains over 11000 years old

@ronnietexan Жыл бұрын

Did it have dreads?

@israeladesanya4596 Жыл бұрын

No ginger pubes

@n116gtr Жыл бұрын

Lol, nah.. probably a West African pygmy

@branthomas1621 Жыл бұрын

It was actually found in Cumbria by Lancashire Uni archaeologists, not far from the human remains found near Kents Bank in 2013.

@thomasgumersell9607 Жыл бұрын

Interesting video i thought they did find a relative of Cheddar Man. Living in a Village not far from where Cheddar Man's remains were found? I am sure I recall seeing that on the news? I did enjoy this video as I was born in Cheltenham , England. Now I reside in Ontario , Canada. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨

@ronnietexan Жыл бұрын

They did, his name is Adrian Targett. He is surprisingly not black, as are non of his maternal family. His family has lived in the area since Cheddar man, well his maternal side definitely.

@thomasgumersell9607 Жыл бұрын

@@ronnietexan thank you for the Intel. I knew I heard correctly about a School Teacher i believe he is ? Who has a DNA link to the famous Cheddar Man. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨

@ronnietexan Жыл бұрын

@@thomasgumersell9607 Here is some more info. He taught history to Richard Herring, from the comedy duo, Lee & Herring. He was a guest on their show, This morning with Richard but not Judy not long after he found out. It is on KZfaq somewhere.

@thomasgumersell9607 Жыл бұрын

@@ronnietexan thank you for your info. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨

@cw9007 Жыл бұрын

Not a relative, they just shared the same mtDNA haplogroup...why do people insist on believing the media instead of scientists?!

@margaritalee1 Жыл бұрын

Excellent and fascinating; thank you for putting in the time and expense to produce the awesome video.

@hetrodoxly1203 Жыл бұрын

Geneticist Susan Walsh at Indiana University-Purdue University Indianapolis, says "we simply don't know his skin colour". this video claims the NHM own Geneticist did the research, are they saying 'Susan Walsh' was not involved?

@janesmith9024 Жыл бұрын

I htink they don't know. The problem with this programme is when it was produced and the political agenda behind the programme makers.

@jamessarsgard1342 Жыл бұрын

I’m far from an expert, but from what I understand the reason genetics concludes that his skin was dark is that he lacks the gene that is universally found in subsequent populations of Europeans that have pale skin. This allele was present in the Anatolian farmers who replaced (?) cheddar’s people and also later groups. So they theorized a darker skin tone. How dark? We can’t really be sure. Could be that the reconstructed picture of him is accurate, or it could be that he was closer to, say, Inuit. Was def politicized by both right and left. To them I would say, get over it. He’s been dead 10,000 years!

@hetrodoxly1203 Жыл бұрын

@@jamessarsgard1342 No, they didn't find the marker that determines skin colour, what matters is the truth, there should be no room for ideological activism within academia, I'm afraid it appears to be endemic, reality doesn't appear to be important.

@rob8856 Жыл бұрын

@@hetrodoxly1203 why do you asume that her conclusions are ideological and not scientific? I mean do you have enough knowledge of genetics to refute her conclusions? What is the issue if the cheddar man had dark skin?

@hetrodoxly1203 Жыл бұрын

@@rob8856 I'm not assuming anything, geneticist working on the sample said they couldn't tell the colour of his skin from the results, New Scientist magazine retracted it's article, stating his skin colour hadn't been found from the sample, the issue is facts, this is the most worrying part, the truth should be paramount.

@LancashireLarks 8 ай бұрын

Really enjoyed this 🙌

@freeshrugs63 Жыл бұрын

Really interesting. Thanks for posting.

@gleann_cuilinn 8 ай бұрын

So interesting to think of all the different ways people have looked over the millennia!

@rikshaw2233 11 ай бұрын

Thank You Ms Wiwa for a fascinating Documentary about Ancient Britain. An enlightening perspective.

@ilricettario Жыл бұрын

Vitamin D is correct, is one answer to why the pigmentation is different, and it became dominant in the European countries over thousands of years.

@Matt_Alaric Жыл бұрын

The claim he had black or brown skin got retracted years ago. This entire video is based on a lie at this point.

@jonesyrugbychapelhill69 Жыл бұрын

@@Matt_Alaric Female Science.

@chrislong3938 Жыл бұрын

I've found over the years, meeting British white folks that some are VERY white and pale, they sunburn really easily, etc, and others who have an almost olive skin and tan very easily and are pretty much unaffected by the sun. It's just interesting to me because I used to see it all the time and often wondered about it.

@debbielepper1221 Жыл бұрын

Me too ! I always wondered about that .

@henrikbunkenborg6743 Жыл бұрын

Well the Romans must have left some Italian genes.

@chrislong3938 Жыл бұрын

@@henrikbunkenborg6743 That's possible but I'd have expected a helluva lot more ethnic mixing over the centuries. To the point where everyone would pretty much look the same.

@henrikbunkenborg6743 Жыл бұрын

Hi Chris. Genetics works in a different way.

@hannahk1306 Жыл бұрын

We're quite a large mix genetically and this can vary across the country and between individual families. For example, I'm very pale skinned and burn easily, but I attribute this largely to ancestors who came to the UK from Ukraine a little over one hundred years ago (especially as the other side of my family tans fairly easily). Others will probably have Scandinavian roots (possibly myself included), either directly from Vikings or perhaps from the Normans or even more recently. Then, on the flipside, there'll be Brits with Mediterranean, Indian, sub-Saharan African, Arab, etc ancestors. Genetics are also quite complex in terms of which genes get inherited and then which of those actually get expressed. Being an island nation with a long history of different groups visiting or settling here, I'd actually be surprised if we didn't have those differences! Even looking at hair colour or eye colour or height, we have quite a lot of variation compared to some other countries.

@sallykilby524 Ай бұрын

When you think of it, it makes total sense. I read ages ago that scientists found that the very first humans were black skinned and came from Africa ,around Botswana area so obviously they spread out and travelled around the world , . Wasn't the world all joined up anyway at first then parts of the lands moves away to form the world we know today? Fascinating stuff. Huge thanks for sharing . 👍❤️

@haalstaag 11 ай бұрын

Fascinating. Thank you. Currently reading a brief history of sapiens

@erepsekahs Жыл бұрын

I have have only just found her, but I love this woman, she speaks with the confidence of knowledge gained. A word to the wise: ' It is only when you realize you know absolutely nothing, that you become open to learning something. ' Words from my father to me. He was a very successful research chemist, and a borderline genius who, in retirement, lectured internationally.

@carriekelly4186 Жыл бұрын

I think she didn't do the research, she's a narrator ...

@guyfawkes8384 11 ай бұрын

Of course you love her, she's black and you're likely a virtue signaling white liberal.

@PoldarkGodzilla 3 ай бұрын

Yes oh wise one 😂 but this lady is a narrator and facts regarding Chester man are not set in stone , his skin colour is certainly not verified

@GreyHunter88 Жыл бұрын

I think it's worth keeping in mind that the Cheddar Man sample had been in storage for decades before the Natural History Museum commissioned the analysis. The study and genome were never published, and years later have still not been despite the Museum's half-hearted insistence that they were going to be. Considering samples for DNA analysis are supposed to be extracted during excavation, and not after decades sitting in the archives, alongside the fact that almost no information about any of this has been published or peer-reviewed, I would take all of this with a rather large pinch of salt. The findings are rather convenient in today's social climate, but the science is hardly watertight.

@andrewmcneil6668 Жыл бұрын

Not only is it "not watertight" it's absolutely full of huge holes and is driven by current politics rather than real science.

@GreyHunter88 Жыл бұрын

@@andrewmcneil6668 The sample is so old and poorly maintained that we can never trust the data entirely, but I do believe it's possible they used real science and their best efforts in conducting the actual examination. That being said, I do think it's obvious that current politics played a major role in how they chose to interpret those findings and present them to the public. It's most likely their analysis told them that Cheddar Man would have had a skin tone between 'Italian' and 'Sub-Saharan African', and they decided to run with that in a very particular way...

@DaveSCameron Жыл бұрын

Time for me to move on from such pithy channels...

@ronnietexan Жыл бұрын

@@GreyHunter88 Separated by 10,000 years but linked by DNA! A 9,000 year old skeleton’s DNA was tested and it was concluded that a living relative was teaching history about a half mile away, tracing back nearly 300 generations! Four years before, when Adrian Targett, a retired history teacher from Somerset, walked into his local news-agent’s, he was startled to see a familiar face staring up at him. That face, appearing on the front page of several newspapers, belonged to a distant relative of his - around 10,000 years distant, actually - known as Cheddar Man. Ancient DNA from Cheddar Man, a Mesolithic skeleton discovered in 1903 at Gough’s Cave in Cheddar Gorge, Somerset, has helped Museum scientists paint a portrait of one of the oldest modern humans in Britain. This discovery is consistent with a number of other Mesolithic human remains discovered throughout Europe. Cheddar Man is the oldest complete skeleton to be discovered in the UK and has long been hailed as the first modern Briton who lived around 7,150 BC. His remains are kept by London’s Natural History Museum, in the Human Evolution gallery. dailyxpresss.com/an-english-teacher-of-history-and-a-9000-year-old-cheddar-man-have-the-same-dna/

@_00_36 Жыл бұрын

it has nothing to do with the quality of the sample. a dna sample cannot determine the skin color of an ancient person. it is literally impossible to know with modern technology and any geneticist knows this.

@insight1256 Жыл бұрын

Who would have thought that animals, humans included and plants thrive as the climate warms up. Astounding.

@thehainanchannel 9 ай бұрын

Love the show, love the podcasts, well done guys, keep it up!

@suepem 10 ай бұрын

The people who reconstructed Cheddar Man said they had darkend his skin as an experiment. Its taken on a political thing. Cheddar Man probably looked like Tom Jones, Catherine Zeta Jones or Luke Evans. Within the zone of Britishness.

@sahulianhooligan7046 6 ай бұрын

Do you believe global warming is a hoax, the covid pandemic was planned and 9/11 was organised? I noticed people who believe Cheddar Man was white tend to believe in the three things I just mentioned

@roostercogburn1943 6 ай бұрын

its a Boasian anthropology scam

@js2749 Жыл бұрын

The only thing we know for sure is that Cheddar Gorge is really fuxxing cool

@v.a.993 Жыл бұрын

This was amazing. Thank you!

@davehooper5115 Жыл бұрын

What a fascinating video wow how Interesting, I remember hearing about Cheddar Man, many years ago. But this video was put together and explained In the perfect way. I loved It

@robhowarth77 Жыл бұрын

An interesting subject and well presented , thank you !

@giuliakhawaja7929 Жыл бұрын

Many people on here denying that the History teacher is descended from “Cheddar Man” but the team who did the original excavation tested many people in the area and only found one, the history teacher who, amazingly, looks like the reconstruction.

@JM-The_Curious Жыл бұрын

The DNA of Cheddar Man and the history teacher showed they had a common maternal ancestor, not that Cheddar man was an ancestor of the history teacher.

@robert-trading-as-Bob69 11 ай бұрын

A well presented documentary that raises more questions about our fascinating human journey. Will our wanderlust extend to the stars eventually as we continue to evolve? The histories tell us Picts lived in Britain, then Celts, Roman Peoples (from Spain across to Germany), and Scandinavian settlers who interbred with a mix of all the settlers in those fair isles. Britain, like Europe, has been a melting pot of migrants for thousands of years. Some people today like to discriminate on the basis of colour when their real fear is a difference of culture. Modern Britain is a product of farmers fighting back the forests that once provided a haven for the nomadic inhabitants and the WILD-life that preceeded them, bringing domestic animals to her shores.

@johnslaughter5475 Жыл бұрын

You pretty well answered my question (thought). It would be interesting to put Cheddar Man's DNA into the genealogy DBs and see if there are any matches with anyone alive today.

@DaveSCameron Жыл бұрын

Fake!

@williamstone1536 Жыл бұрын

The cool thing is if you see a picture of the common descendant they found of him in Cheddar recently, they do share a resembalnce.

@johnbrereton5229 Жыл бұрын

Any person alive that far back in history is related to all of us alive today, not just the chap still living nr Cheddar. However, this programme is nothing less than racist propaganda.

@cyankirkpatrick5194 Жыл бұрын

They did and through genealogy they found a match, and through the female side of a man there in Cheddar. I watched a show about this and did an interview with him it was very good.

@twonumber22 Жыл бұрын

@@johnbrereton5229 Complete bullsht from you yet again.

@Valhalla88888 Жыл бұрын

Our ancestors !!!! She is from Africa

@tedkrasicki3857 Жыл бұрын

With a doubling of ancestors every generation back, the number of possible ancestors at the time of 'Cheddar Man' is extremely large. Geography would have imposed a very large 'pedigree collapse", but we can not rule out connections to every part of the globe. Cousins everywhere, just everywhere!

@idrinkcoffeeandknowthings 11 ай бұрын

And so are u dont be a hateful racist bigot

@GoodForYou4504 Жыл бұрын

For some reason, I feel like I was supposed to learn more than the story of cheddar man from this video. Was this about history or some kind of social message that I'm not understanding?

@sandman8920 Жыл бұрын

Was a bit weird wasn’t it. Like some kind of forced agenda

@eh1702 Жыл бұрын

On a scale of one to five, five being darkest, Cheddar man scores five for the genes that give dark skin. Same for Mesolithic people all over Europe. It’s a fact, get over it. His eyes were light, either greenish or blue. A combination not frequently found in Europe nowadays, so people find it hard to believe. Not unusual as such though. A lot of Afghans, Pakistanis and northern Indians have it. Western Hunter Gatherers did not need light skin in the cloudy British Isles because they had a forager diet very rich in plants with vitamin C (which supports the processing of “sunshine vitamin D) and fish with plenty of Vitamin D. Neolithic arrivals had lighter brown skin and frequently suffered Vit C & D & iron deficiency because they were farmers, and were bringing with them crops like wheat, and they seemed to not eat fish much. A more restricted diet. Other common crops on the continent could not cope with the climate if the British Isles.

@sandman8920 Жыл бұрын

@@eh1702 I’ve got absolutely no problem with the dark skin it’s just the language used in the video suggests nobody is native to Briton.

@GoodForYou4504 Жыл бұрын

@@eh1702 I'm aware of almost all of that info. Could you please explain why you are going over this and what should I be getting over? I honestly don't understand the point that is being made by both you and the show.

@jimrobertson8357 Жыл бұрын

@@sandman8920 Yes trying to reinforce that we are all immigrants,and should welcome the new ones. and not resent being over run again.

@moneyboy4754 Жыл бұрын

She seems very nice and calm. Very relaxing voice and perfect for the topic in my opinion

@guyfawkes8384 11 ай бұрын

Would you be making that comment if she weren't black? If the narrator were white we know you wouldn't have made that comment. The need for white people to kiss these peoples asses is so strange to me.

@jimrobertson8357 Жыл бұрын

What age group is this chanel aimed at? 10-12 yr olds.

@constantius4654 Жыл бұрын

This non historian presenter of 'history' is apparently (and perhaps unwittingly) part of a wider 'multicultural' campaign which argues that early Britons were 'black' and that Celts, Saxons and Vikings were 'migrants', no different at all from the tens of thousands of young Middle Eastern men who are crossing the English Channel this year. The best part of this video is the brilliant scientific input from a highly intellectual Dr Selina Brace at the Natural History Museum. She could have presented the entire programme. However, the general presenter (herself of a recent migrant background) mused, no doubt correctly, that, over millennia and centuries, many populations change their ethnic content or are replaced completely by other peoples and belief systems. Therefore folks, I am now convinced that there is really no such thing as a native culture in the UK and even if there is, it has no particular value so let it be replaced. Preferably as soon as possible. Furthermore, do not worry if there is a collapse in Western liberal values in the UK due to mass migration from, for example the Islamic world, or if this leads to the kind of 'multicultural' paradise-on-earth that has torn places like Syria, Palestine, Kurdistan, Bosnia and Lebanon apart with tit for tat atrocities from different ethnic and religious groups. You see, migration and population changes and replacement are 'natural' and have been happening for millennia. So there is no need to worry about (actually very swift) mass migration into the UK and Europe. Clearly, ancient population changes too would have led to countless incidents of violence, rape, slavery, forced conversion, family breakup, abject misery, tribal conflict and many other kinds of trauma. It might actually be more useful if History Hit programmes are presented by qualified historians/archaeologists/DNA scientists (rather than generalised 'hobby' presenters) ie by specialist presenters who know their history, stick to it, and allow the channel's overwhelmingly well educated viewers to draw their own conclusions.

@cardroid8615 Жыл бұрын

We were never replaced. Cheddar man's descendant was found in the exact same town where his remains we're discovered. These people are sinister for making this

@thelink4492 Жыл бұрын

yep it more far left sjw pedo commie crappy propaganda

@stephfoxwell4620 Жыл бұрын

No he wasn't.

@corvusglaive4804 Жыл бұрын

This is not a new position though. David Mac Ritchie at the turn of the last century argued that the original Britons were Black in his book "Ancient and Modern Britons". Blacks are the original humans of the planet: Whites are mutations. So it makes sense that the first inhabitants of Europe were Black. Those knee-grows are everywhere you look in history whether anyone likes it or not 🤷🏿‍♂️😬

@cardroid8615 Жыл бұрын

@@corvusglaive4804 we know how uneducated people are when they say a process of evolution is a mutation.

@TheJamesRedwood Жыл бұрын

4:23 Yeah that's his left eye, unless you have flipped the video. I appreciate the lack of stock video, but the images could have followed the narrative a lot better. So many shots that were not of the thing being described.

@gavdanby-cooper9085 Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed that. Thank you.

@WilliamJohnwon1522 Жыл бұрын

The tectonic plates brought Scotland and England together, and once upon a time we were merged in with the main continent of Europe. How long has a kind of human being have to be in a land, before it is regarded as native. Anglo Saxon, Jutes and Danes and Normans for that matter have been in the UK for over a thousand years. How long were the Maoris in New Zealand there, or the Native American in the US? About a thousand years perhaps.

@hurri7720 Жыл бұрын

Much longer.

@653j521 5 ай бұрын

Apparently the people came and went, replaced by different ones who came and went, over and over, as the climate changed, and invaders came and interbred over and over, so the concept of a native in the UK doesn't apply the same way it does in, say, the Americas.

@blue_tree_meadow Жыл бұрын

One thing I love about these islands we call home is that despite what the Nick Griffin's of the world say, being British is defined by an attitude, an accent and most of all a particular sharpness of wit and sense of humour rather than skin colour etc. One of our greatest strengths has always been the knowledge that reason trumps emotion. I'm proud to live in a country that says, "As long as we can laugh together, we can live together."

@Matt_Alaric Жыл бұрын

Hahahahahaha! What absolute nonsense. Of course nationality isn't defined by attitude and wit or it wouldn't exist to begin with. A quick witted Frenchman doesn't suddenly become English. A laconic Japanese doesn't suddenly become Australian. The attempt to divorce an ethnic identity from anything actually related to ethnicity is just the latest in a long line of mental gymnastics being used to try and redefine some very basic facts to suit a globalist agenda.

@blue_tree_meadow Жыл бұрын

@@Matt_Alaric ok

@nerdyali4154 Жыл бұрын

Being British is defined by nothing anymore. Some Britons foolishly believe that Britain is still defined by liberal principles and a shared commitment to personal freedoms, to individual rights and to democracy. Unfortunately such societies do not survive without a firm belief in the virtue of those principles and a commitment to protect them. Masses of immigrants who do not share those values undermine the society. You can see the process happening in major cities where personal freedoms become restricted because they're offensive to large immigrant demographics. It is hard to be welcoming and tolerant of newcomers when they form voting blocks and insert themselves into governing bodies to impose their own values on your society. It doesn't matter when the bulk of Britons arrived here or what race they were, they have formed a society with values and that's what defines them. The current process of destroying any vestige of healthy and tolerant nationalism is turning Britain into a foreign country for many.

@blue_tree_meadow Жыл бұрын

@@nerdyali4154 I've seen this happen a few times now, and I'll grant you things do change somewhat, for a while, but mostly the country just swallows everyone up within a couple of generations. That Britishness generally takes over in the end. And to be fair, after that the only things we tend to mutually keep are the things that are mutually beneficial, or at least that's been my experience.

@Matt_Alaric Жыл бұрын

@@blue_tree_meadow No, it doesn't. Not since the norman conquest (which brought profound cultural changes) has this country been subject to any sort of mass immigration. And now that it's underway the idea that there's gonna be any sort of successful absorption is a fantasy used to keep people happy. British people are being replaced in cities across the country, and the culture they built is going with them.

@vespa81 Жыл бұрын

Some pretty basic errors in this, for instance Doggerland didn't disappear 125.000!!!, years ago. It was in fact less than 10.000 years ago, how can such a basic error be made unless there is some propaganda element to this program.

@JM-The_Curious Жыл бұрын

The general story appears to have been told reasonably, though with massive simplifications to cut it down to this brief video. You're correct about Doggerland, but I don't see propaganda here, I see information. Of course some would say that the presenter talking about us all originating in Africa is 'propaganda' or lies, and I would say that's just what the evidence shows, so you might view something as propaganda that I don't.

@JM-The_Curious Жыл бұрын

@@jeanineadele We'll have to agree to disagree. I've only ever come across evidence that supports it, which is why it is the currently accepted theory (not hypothesis).

@stanleyjobson1567 Жыл бұрын

Well established populations of africa have European dna, no European population has african dna. What evidence do you have for out of Africa nonsense besides some cartoon drawings?

@hurri7720 Жыл бұрын

@@jeanineadele , by who and why. Did the polar bear evolve in the Arctic or did it evolve in a warmer climate and change over time walking north.

@eltorrisimo Ай бұрын

I think you need to watch the video again, more carefully. It doesn't say doggerland disappeared 125k years ago, at all.

@julianbennett3772 Жыл бұрын

what about that DNA test years ago in which they found he was related to a local history teacher? Mick Aston was involved...

@thelink4492 Жыл бұрын

it dosnt mean he is a direct relative it distancs most moden europens inculding us brits have Eastern hunter gather what we call the Steppe peoples

@stephfoxwell4620 Жыл бұрын

Then the BBC said he was black.

@SandraNelson063 Жыл бұрын

They discovered that our beloved Phil Harding had some connection with Cheddar Man as well. Phil was delighted. Have you seen some of Phil's flint work? Absolutely beautiful.

@thelink4492 Жыл бұрын

@@SandraNelson063 🙄🤣🤡

@studio-flash 7 ай бұрын

@@stephfoxwell4620😂

@shinmopi Жыл бұрын

I love these kinds of videos. Great video, great content, and it's so interesting to listen to people who are really passionate about their job and can at the same time explain things in a way others, non professionnals can understand. Thank you so much. Cheers from France.

@RobertFallon Жыл бұрын

Great video! I appreciate the geological, climatic, and deep-time perspectives.

@trailingarm63 Жыл бұрын

Party political broadcast on behalf of the African diaspora! Nevertheless, a good whistle-stop tour of a million years' of history. Enjoyed it. Personally I don't care where the UK population originates, I just don't want it growing too big. It's hard enough to accommodate, educate and medicate the 65 or so millions we've got now! And I'd prefer not to be obliged to turn a predominantly "green and pleasant land" into an endless concrete & asphalt jungle. If the trendy lefties have got answers to these issues I'd like to hear them.

@manfrombritain6816 Жыл бұрын

If we hadn't allowed positive net migration our population would have stalled at around 45m i once read - which was probably a much more manageable amount

@denz8261 Жыл бұрын

The current population of the United Kingdom is 68,819,507 as of Thursday, February 16, 2023, based on Worldometer elaboration of the latest United Nations data ...

@trailingarm63 Жыл бұрын

@@denz8261Worse than I thought. It's no wonder youngsters can't get on the housing ladder.

@vespa81 Жыл бұрын

@@trailingarm63 , no, the reason for that is almost permanent Conservative rule.

@trailingarm63 Жыл бұрын

@@vespa81 Can you explain the mechanism of how extended C. rule has created these problems?

@polywog9591 9 ай бұрын

What a fabulous voice this women has.

@sailorgirl2017 8 ай бұрын

The DNA of Adrian Targett, who was 42 years old when that discovery was made, was found to match that belonging to Cheddar Man

@olafsigmundson2167 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting. Thank you

@stephfoxwell4620 Жыл бұрын

Just inaccurate.

@wolverineeagle Жыл бұрын

He wasn’t an Englishman. English is a 9th century identity. That is well after this man lived.

@shaunwild8797 Жыл бұрын

He wasn't a Briton either. These people just talk bollocks on these shows.

@timflatus Жыл бұрын

@@shaunwild8797 Britain is a geographical term. I think it's reasonable to call him British. The programme does a good job of explaining what he was. It is ridiculous to call him English

@shaunwild8797 Жыл бұрын

@@timflatus He walked here from Doggerland so maybe they should be calling him Doggerman who died in Britain.

@brenda1378 Жыл бұрын

@@shaunwild8797 there is no evidence for that. He may have.

@fowleheidi482 Жыл бұрын

In the opening she states "was once thought to be".

@janesmith9024 Жыл бұрын

Well made programme. Interesting that the natural history lady says "sapp iens" as I do and my family do and the presenter says "say piens". May be the former is English and the latter American. All my direct ancestors back to the 1700s are from UK/Ireland (which is a bit boring). The further back I go (in terms of UK written records) the small the area from which people come. My DNA on the maternal side tracked back 30,000 years leads us to the Caucasus mountains.

@Mathemagical55 Жыл бұрын

"... and of course his skin pigmentation would have been dark or dark-brown to black in colour" Can someone explain how he was blacker than some Africans when his ancestors have been from Europe for tens of thousands of years?

@straighttalking2090 Жыл бұрын

Maybe we evolved our white skin in the last few tens of thousands of years. Nice to have the latest model skin.

@oomagnummedia 9 ай бұрын

To bad most people with the latest skin model dont even like it. Most of them get sun tans to add color 😂. Everyone knows light skin is the right skin 😉.

@merguezdeal Жыл бұрын

"Cheddar Man" is the ancestor of Nigerian cheese that migrated to a northern area in Somerset.

@eh1702 Жыл бұрын

Correction: Ethiopian cheese.

@peterflynn9123 Жыл бұрын

I would have presumed cheddar man's ancestor would have been a Kurd?..

@eh1702 Жыл бұрын

@@peterflynn9123 What? That’s crackers!

@eh1702 Жыл бұрын

@@peterflynn9123 Get a whey with ya.

@peterflynn9123 Жыл бұрын

Lol

@toddmorgan2628 Жыл бұрын

Clearly our greatest strength.

@themadscotsman 11 ай бұрын

Excellent presentation, was hooked from the start

@peggyryan2851 Жыл бұрын

A woman after my own heart. Who are the first and how? Thank you.

@evalevy2909 Жыл бұрын

I love how the rendition of him has this little smirk and a twinkle in his eye

@shoominati23 Жыл бұрын

23:46 : So Cute . Could murder and the charges be dropped 😂

@jamesswindley9599 Жыл бұрын

It’s insane that the skeleton has survived so long. It’s hard to even find Anglo-Saxon bodies intact from 2000 years ago! ❤

@PeteV80 Жыл бұрын

Because the soil is very acidic. Cheddar Man was found in a cave with different environmental conditions

@kimhaas7586 Жыл бұрын

What’s more insane is how some people get all bent out of shape over a few base pairs in a DNA sequence thinking that these tiny differences that give us different colored skin has some significance culturally. 🙄

@xHeadcleanerx Жыл бұрын

That’s because they didn’t arrive til the 5th century.

@manfrombritain6816 Жыл бұрын

Lmao the anglo-saxons weren't around 2000 years ago 😂

@MrThedonhead 11 ай бұрын

It's nonsense just to sell papers

@chriswas6614 Жыл бұрын

Well it was interesting nonetheless, but it would be nice if we know more about these people of pre-farming Europe

@admiralbenbow5083 Жыл бұрын

"Primitive human that makes grunting noises all the time". LOL sounds like my brother...literally.

@lisarochwarg4707 Жыл бұрын

Could be a throwback.

@charlesvanderhoog7056 Жыл бұрын

08:40 "Almost half a million years later ..." Imagine half a million years on from now, the year 502023. That would be something, wouldn't it?

@straighttalking2090 Жыл бұрын

Good to ponder on - will we be out in the stars - will there be any humans alive, will we be just fossils - did we destroy the planet..

@ingridgallagher1029 Жыл бұрын

Will the sun have swallowed us up by then

@straighttalking2090 Жыл бұрын

@@ingridgallagher1029 'They say' we have a few billion years to go before that.

@seerstone8982 Жыл бұрын

Hope I'm dead by then.

@tomnicholson2115 Жыл бұрын

@@seerstone8982 As half a million years is over 6000 (long) lifetimes, chances are you will have been dead for almost half a million years by then!

@jaquelinekaku1302 Жыл бұрын

!!! EXCELLENT DOC., VERY COLORFUL ON LAB. PROCEDURES !!! 🙏🙏🙏

@hurri7720 Жыл бұрын

There is a very nice theory of why we stopped and started to grow stuff like wheat. We learned how to make alcohol, and as you cannot carry your field with you we got happily stuck and we got more organized, all for the better.

@MrThedonhead 11 ай бұрын

No it ruined everything and the biggest mistake of mankind and everyone agrees

@samueldickenson2062 11 ай бұрын

@@MrThedonheadevidently not, don't romanticise being a hunter gatherer. Cheddar ma. Possibly died in his early 20s from a simple infection, that wouldn't happen today

@judeross3875 11 ай бұрын

@@MrThedonhead Yep being "happily stuck" now we are in a mess.

@skepticalbadger Жыл бұрын

Not an "Englishman". A Briton.

@stevethomas5849 Жыл бұрын

not even a Briton or even early Celtic this predates these civilisation.

@JP-hr7ch Жыл бұрын

@@stevethomas5849 Following your logic, Africans didn't exist until the continent of Africa was described by the Greeks, which of course only applied to North Africa anyway, and was absolutely distinct from Sub-Saharan Africa civilisations.

@eadweardwoden7309 Жыл бұрын

@@stevethomas5849 yes he is, he has european DNA.

@ianmcsherry5254 Жыл бұрын

@@eadweardwoden7309 you didn't think that through.

@eadweardwoden7309 Жыл бұрын

@@ianmcsherry5254 i did. please prove me wrong.

@lulufulu4867 Жыл бұрын

What a refreshing approach to explaining our history, real and relatable. A stark contrast to previous pompous pedagogory we are usually confronted with. Well done ladies we need more of this.

@stephfoxwell4620 Жыл бұрын

But these cavemen are not Britons. They predate us by anout 7,000 years.

@voltron6953 Жыл бұрын

I know they used to have giraffes too the skulls were found in the cheddar caves also. The world was a much different place then😊

@MrKarmoy1 Жыл бұрын

Africa was not the only place humans emerged from. Now we know of at least 3 more species that developed.

@jenthomsen8205 11 ай бұрын

Well presented and informative. Thank you!

@kimberlypatton205 9 ай бұрын

It is astounding to me, seeing his facial reconstruction, just how similar he looks to many old photographs taken of many Native Americans in the US..

@andyn3532 Жыл бұрын

The hunter gatherer to farming didn't all happen at once and they kind of dipped in and out of it and it only gradually happen.

@richardhale5910 8 ай бұрын

I was hoping to learn the haplogroup of Cheddar Man.

@davideldred.campingwilder6481 Жыл бұрын

It's interesting to note that a very famous traveling celebrity came from a small village (Wedmore) near Cheddar gore. Yes, Garry Glitter is from there...

@pablosaintmarr3223 Жыл бұрын

Yip He has blue eyes and pre bald , had black hair. and is about 5feet tall 🤣

@stevehead365 Жыл бұрын

He's a Banbarian, though if Wedmore wishes to claim him, that's fine by me.

@vik3071 Жыл бұрын

Surely he should be called Cheddar George !

@ZeCatnipRainbow Жыл бұрын

Love this host/narrator(?) and the scientist! Great vid!

@guyfawkes8384 11 ай бұрын

Of course you do! Liberals love their pets!

@Johannes_Brahms65 Жыл бұрын

I can't wait to see the episode on gorgonzola man!

@Victoriacariad Жыл бұрын

Eh. Poorly written and presented. There are far more serious documentaries on the cheddar man that *don't* go off topic to "racism", modern immigration and/or "colonialism".

@hejla4524 Жыл бұрын

But getting fewer by the day.

@paulacunniffe4123 Жыл бұрын

You seem to have a deficit in listening and comprehension, because there is no racism as far as I can see.... and the methods in cross-referencing seemingly off-topic and modern immigration/colonialism are all and methods of story-telling to help most of us be able to understand. You seem to take issue with the fact that the presenter has black skin, what is wrong with that? There's a big difference between 'description' and 'prescription' about how our ancestors were.... Dr Brace explains the DNA role researched in that to support it all. Is there an issue with accepting that our ancestors were black? If you have your DNA done, you will be surprised at just how widespread our ancestors were, because as you know, every generation you go back, doubles the amount of grand/great grandparents we have. The presenter states she is a travel writer... writers research and consult with experts in order to tell stories that often more academic people have trouble connecting with others over. Perhaps you need to present your own KZfaq show about it with all the knowledge you have on the topic? I enjoy seeing everyones interpretations etc.

@the_inconvenient_trucel8912 Жыл бұрын

@Paula Cunniffe There was a slight bias as there is in nearly all entertainment today. I imagine being black does shape the way you think,the same way being white or whatever, so it's fair to say everyone has bias and it was displayed here

@paulacunniffe4123 Жыл бұрын

@@the_inconvenient_trucel8912 Yes, good point... everyone who tells a story will tell it from their experience

@Britonbear Жыл бұрын

"The Oldest Englishman who ever lived"? What utter nonsense.

@thelink4492 Жыл бұрын

yep he never was English the oldest Englishman was when the anglo saxons arrived

@Britonbear Жыл бұрын

@@thelink4492 The concept of England was even later than that.

@thelink4492 Жыл бұрын

@@Britonbear true i guess because the Danes that arrived to became English along with the normans but all three are gentility similar anyways

@Phil-uv8nq Жыл бұрын

I live very close to cheddar :D

@godinhogodinho5258 Жыл бұрын

Already with blue eyes! Wow!

@clarissagafoor5222 Жыл бұрын

don`t some of us have a tiny amount of Neandethal dna?

@JP-hr7ch Жыл бұрын

Not some, but everyone whose ancestry isn’t solely Sub-Saharan African.

@janetd5317 Жыл бұрын

I have some, did my test with 23andMe....

@stephfoxwell4620 Жыл бұрын

1-3% in Europe.

@stevehead365 Жыл бұрын

Predominantly in Banbury.

@wabisabi6875 Жыл бұрын

What's going on here? In his book, "Saxons, Vikings, and Celts" (published as "Blood of the Isles" in the UK) Bryan Sykes describes taking the first DNA sample taken from one of Cheddar man's teeth. It was in fact the first successful sample taken from early human remains. How could the producers of this documentary not be aware of this?

@JM-The_Curious Жыл бұрын

Sykes took a sample from a tooth to get Cheddar Man's mitochondrial DNA. This programme seems to be talking about a different sample for nuclear DNA sequencing? The documentary is quite short and hasn't talked in depth on a lot of aspects in order to fit a general picture of the peopling of the Isles over a million years into a short video.

@MissWitchiepoo 2 ай бұрын

The eye color surprises me because I've heard that everyone with blue eyes are descendents of this one blue eye man long long ago, so having 2 people from different places both with that eye color is strange to me. My family almost all of them had very blue eyes that is on my mothers side but on my dad's side they also had blue eyes just not this blue. Only my dad and I have green eyes. The eyes on these 2 men is a wonderful color.

@alexontheedge Жыл бұрын

The phenotype is a bit like modern Berbers. Could people have been crossing the Straits of Gibraltar to Spain and moving northward?

@alexontheedge Жыл бұрын

@@Aiel-Necromancer Wow! Interesting factoid! Or is it? Reference studies? And I don't know if I would categorize a farmed diet with less meat in it an "unhealthy diet", just one with less vitamin D. However, wouldn't people farther south in Europe still be getting vitamin D if the warmer climate necessitated less clothing, so they would still be getting vitamin D from exposure to the sun? And what about farming societies in Africa? Don't they still have plenty of melanin? (Just wondering.)

@TheWitchInTheWoods Жыл бұрын

the we're unlikely to find anyone related to him, didn't age well did it. They found his distant descendant still living in the area, and still looking the spit of his ancestor. It's amazing how close they look.

@Ma1q444 Жыл бұрын

Link

@cardroid8615 Жыл бұрын

@@Ma1q444 Google it!

@secrethousemate Жыл бұрын

The man they found is almost certainly not descended directly from 'Cheddar Man' and that match was from years before the research into Cheddar Man's DNA. The likely darker skin tones match other research into skeletons from Europe in that timeframe (circa 10k years ago)

@cardroid8615 Жыл бұрын

@@secrethousemate they are both directly related from the cheddars maternal line

@TheWitchInTheWoods Жыл бұрын

@@cardroid8615 The analysis of Cheddar Man's mitochondrial DNA by Bryan Sykes in 1996 was broadcast on a regional television programme in the UK, Once Upon a Time in the West. The programme emphasised the connection between Cheddar Man and a history teacher from a local school, both of whom belonged to mitochondrial DNA haplogroup U5, although this cannot demonstrate a direct connection between Cheddar Man and this individual, and many people with the same mtDNA haplogroup could probably be found even within the local area. (wikipedia) Still looks like him though/ enough to convince me