Not only that, but he also just straight up put three empty pokeballs there... Trainers take the pokeballs when they get a pokemon.

@@ShaneOzouf oak is officially a troll

@@Kolokythi Listen to the original/1st closing theme song "Hyaku Gojuu Ichi" (meaning 'One Hundred & Fifty-One') Yes, that's Oak's japanese VA singing in-character Perfect soundtrack for his trolling

Ok that got me.

How can he see a pokecenter

@@vincentgaming6556 he simply opened his eyes

🤔🧐 ah yes yes very logical. I love the comment section 🤣

Correct

Better than Team Rocket for every episode.

I feel it was better since having too many characters would have made it harder to incorporate compelling stories. By only having Gary as the focus for competing trainers then the audience can better learn to hate that guy. If ash has too many other rivals then Gary would probably get overshadowed.

My late step father always told me the same thing. I never understand it when I was extremely young but he always said the same things year after year lol

@@shivur5073 lmao what

@@rageraptor7127his stepfather is dead

In the video he mentions that Gary never battled Sabrina since he never had her badge in his badge case despite having 10 badges. Also, I doubt the other 2 trainers battled Sabrina because if they did and they lost and were turned into dolls, then Professor Oak would never have known what happened to them.

@@advenco344 fair point

@@advenco344 they still could have been turn into dolls, got turned back and had a sudden thought after their life changing experience that made them not wanting to be a trainer anymore after the freaky shit they just went through.

@@crimsonrose1508 yeah that is plausible.

@@advenco344 yeah maybe they turned back normal after Ash defeats Sabrina and she became good again

Which Giovanni didn't even care about. It just kept them too busy to screw up his plans through comedic incompetence.

Not the entire organization. Just the two members that Giovanni had to let in after a benefactor forced him to let in James and his friend and his friend’s wife died leaving him with Jesse. James fancied Jesse so he paired them up together and sent them away to keep them from screwing up his designs at world domination.

Orr, what if they were dealing with Cassidy and butch?

@@RandallStevenson and the recent episode when Iris was battling Cynthia Team rocket even takes responsibility for helping her train up as they said.

No wonder he's always late in Prof. Oak's eyes.

i agree. i dont dislike the existance of either. and in other shows, they could just forget they exist from the start. which would break its continuity and make it seem fake. by giving us updates on the other 2 trainers, we get to see that they did in fact exist, and were able to get ahead, but for one reason or another, couldnt really finish it and gave up.

Ash's first four badges weren't exactly easy to obtain and his stubbornness didn't help. He was unlucky with having Pikachu as his starter up against Brock, but that would have put him on about equal footing with the Charmander trainer. After that, the other three trainers were able to get the Cascade badge without even battling because Misty wasn't there to demand they battle for the badge. Then, Ash was just too stubborn with the Thunder and Marsh badges; Gary doesn't even have them - he knew when he was licked and moved on to other gyms. The other two must have done the same.

@@taiken64 he could've gotten more pokemon as well. or fully trained his butterfree. as it gets pretty early confusion. which melts both geodude and onix. pikachu can solo misty.

Gary had a convertible car

@@Anch54321 Full of hos

???

@@chocov1233 It's been over a year. I don't remember making this post, but obviously it was a joke in the context of the video.

@@Merennulli it's 3 jokes in one, i liked it!

@@chocov1233 the computer programmer comment is refering to the imfamous porygon incident

Fairy type is gay

Do we actually know that these trainers were from or lived in Pallet Town? If not they could've travelled there from somewhere else to pick up a starter.

It's implied in the anime that all trainers in Kanto get their starter Pokemon from Pallet Town on the week of their birthday. So they're likely not Pallet Town residents.

It would be no surprise that they would come from other towns like May and Serena.

​@MarvinPowell1 tlThen nearly every week there should be kids getting their starter pokemon..

Assuming they’re all from pallet town then let’s see what’s possible. Pallet town is masero town or something like that in Japanese. It looks like country side and while pallet town may be small it could be widespread. Ash is depicted as a loser at least at the time among the other trainers so he’s probably not friends with a lot of kids (at the time before serena existed). Also he seemed surprised that gary was one of three kids and he’s definitely not friends with gary (at the time). He also probably didn’t know who the other kids were. It seems like all of the trainers didn’t know each other well or lived in the same vicinity despite being in the same town which is possible. Heck technically even oak wasn’t close to ash at the time. He didn’t even realize ash was arriving to get a pokemon. The only one he knew was coming would be gary and the others showed up even earlier cus they were already gone. Gary was the last one to arrive. This is all i gathered from watching the first episode of kanto pokemon.

Not to mention Ash never once seemed to give any hints that he knew him. Pallet town is a small town with few people so he should know the other two trainers.

Or, he could’ve gotten the 5 badges, and came back to the town after aswell

He could have lived in the area, gone to Pallet Town to receive his starter, and come back. However, this further complicates what needs to have happened, inorder for him to have been the Charmander trainer from Pallet, so I’d still say that it’s possible, but unlikely. The English dub could have easily changed the phrasing, and that comment from Nurse Joy might have been very different in the original. It’d be nice if someone were to check this.

@@BoraCM We've seen in the anime that humans tend to recognize individual Pokémon even separate from others of their species (i.e. Cynthia recognized Ash's Chimchar as the same one that Paul used to own). Professor Oak has seen Charizard before and has never given indication that he recognizes Charizard as the one he himself gave out (and the same can be said for Ash's Bulbasaur and Squirtle). "He could have lived in the area, gone to Pallet Town to receive his starter, and come back." Again, the Charmander trainer could not be Damien because while Damien lives in the area (and travelling to Pallet Town and coming back still means he lives in the area), the Charmander trainer is a travelling trainer (since he/she obtained 5 badges by the time of "Primeape Goes Bananas"). We know the Charmander trainer gave up at some point but it had to have been sometime after "Primeape Goes Bananas" (and consequently "Charmander the Stray Pokémon") so it could not have been Damien.

or he had a bad reputation in nearby places

That is actually a stroke of genius. I'm convinced while although the trainers did exist, oak most definatly made sure ash got pikachu.

This is just the best and most plausible pokémon Theorie I have just heared. Thanks!

Wait woah I haven't watched the anime in so long. What time travelling onion?

@@eanternet He means Celebi

@@linchenwild8007 Ahhh lmao

Great point, it matches up well! Never thought of that before.

That would've been Red and Blue, but that doesn't work cause Squirtle has always been the second most popular starter behind Charmander and it's been confirmed Gary got Squirtle.

@@MarvinPowell1he means red and green because those are the versions that Japanese had which is technically the official versions.

yeah, other series might've just dropped them by simply not mentioning them again, kinda like the GS ball situation. But here at least they let the thing kinda resolve, so we know they are out of the picture.

Especially since Pallet is a really small town and Ash would most definitely know the other two trainers by face and name. It would be nice if he dropped in on them sometime to see how they were doing now, and ask them how their journeys went, etc.

I can see that, having a boss progression but with rivals each with different tactics and such. It would be redundant for the reasons you gave, while also adding a bit of bloat in a show with team rocket, group dynamics, gym challenges, and side stories being juggled around.

I think that was the idea originally, because as "relatable" Ash is, most players progressed fast like Gary and focused on evolving their Pokemon, and seeing Ash do worse possibly inspired them to be better and see what would happen if they went all the way. But it's not really close to the games since there you have Ash and Gary representations that do make it all the way, even moreso than Ash and Gary. I get that Ash shouldn't become a Champion on his first try (though he does with the Orange Islands!), I think having Gary at least make it to the Elite 4 or actually show them in their environment would be cool, despite us seeing them randomly by shere luck. Even having Ash return and win until the Elite 4 would be epic, but that's what that Red with Charizard X vs Mewtwo kinda did. They kinda knew it wouldn't work if they kept the trainers in, or at least thought it wouldn't, just like they thought Gary being in the later seasons would probably throw off new watchers for not knowing his history. It would take a bit of an end goal and actual effort instead of just have the same formula with slightly different pokemon/trainers. Tbh, I think the show would have been badass if they kept Gary and the duo in the whole time, and I think kids would also appreciate it. You don't have to know Gary's history to know he's an ass. You don't have to have 10 year-olds be the star of the show like kid Anakin to peak the interest of 10-year-olds that wanted to be Luke Skywalker as a kid. All of these things not being addressed actually made the show incompetent; seeing Ash actually grow to be 12 and 14, even if it took 700 episodes, would have been way more epic than just ignoring it and not giving Ash an age but having him look and act like a 10-year-old making the same mistakes he would have made 1000 episodes ago and having Team Rocket be just as incompetent and wasteful popping up with giant robots that grow on trees. Even the idea of other Rockets like Butch and Cassidy was a cool concept. We also don't ever hear how other trainers start. Apparently, Kanto only has 1 professor that gave out 4 starters once and somehow there are thousands of trainers, many of which made it to the league. How did these trainers or their associates ever capture Pokemon without owning a Pokemon? Did Oak donate to towns, and if so, how did he obtain his first Pokemon? There's a story of the Chicken and Egg complex, much like how there used to only be 150 types of Pokemon in Kanto at least, and not too long ago, whatever that means (Ash is still 10, right?) Whenever there are old trainers that had new Pokemon for years, it makes me think Kanto and Oak are jokes compared to the rest of the regions that often have Kanto Pokemon in them and include almost all of the previous region pokemon in them.

or got turned into puppets

@@LucyKosaki weren't the puppets released when Ash defeated Sabrina?

@@JuntosXlaLibertadMileyBuIIrichyes they were. And technically haunter defeated sabrina with the power of comedy

The kids could have come from anywhere in Kanto though if Oak is the only professor in the region. In that case Ash is very unlikely to know the other trainers.

@RegiKing You're correct about out of town trainers getting a starter from Oak as there actually is an episode in which a trainer who doesn't live in Pallet goes there to get his first starter. :)

@@legerdemain444 oh I didn’t realize that

@@legerdemain444 That is true but this is more specific to trainers from Pallet town. Oak giving out pokemon to new trainers is nothing too new, but these other two trainers seem to be labeled as kids specifically from Pallet town, which would imply that is where they live prior to going on their pokemon journey. If the wording was different then it may fit with more people, like if they said it in general as two other trainers also came by around here, then perhaps.

Damn, if Oak gives out Pokemon every year, he must really like Ash to be so invested in his journey.

Oak also wants to smash on Ash’s mom, so…

@@Thor-Orion Oak did smash ash's mom. He took her on vacations. Probably even helped pay for the house after Ash's dads money ran out. Oak hit the fuck outta her. Then ran. Thats why she got Mr. Mime. To mend her broken heart. What does Mr. Mime do? All the chores. That was all she did. She stopped doing it out of depression of Oaks break up. Oak hit it and quit it and left her in the dust. Who they gonna believe? He's one of the most famous Pokemon researchers.

I believe to they were and it was Yellow and Jack at least that's my theory.

That’s literally who I’ve gone on with life thinking lol.

I was wondering how Gary got his Earth badge when he lost to Giovanni

@@obi-wankenobi4640 Giovanni said that Gary had earned his badge, but wanted his help to test out another pokemon (which was Mewtwo.)

Giovanni being their 7th badge and not finding Blaine may be a thing but they could've just got the Gary badges. Losing to Giovanni could play a big part but a little more like having weak mid Evo pokemon or sucking at catching pokemon are more likely.

Honestly, I could see a theory like that actually being planned by the writing team back then. Takeshi Shudo had so many insane ideas for the show, some of which made it into the novelisation and some of which were completely shot down.

@WTP Productions A shame. He sounds like a great writer.

in english too

Prof. Oak mentions they just didn't get enough badges.

Sabrina definitely turned at least one of those trainers into dolls. Or maybe the trainers had teamed up to travel together (Ash had Brock and Misty, Gary had his Cheerleaders) and really did get squished by Mewtwo

Pretty sure in this universe 10 year olds are legally adults

- Carpet - adults need money and can be pressured by other people

@@-carpet- More like children given more freedom.

@@hephastgus689 nah theyre literally allowed to go into the wilderness alone and fight dangerous creatures that could easily kill them with no adult supervision. They can also go anywhere without parent permission. They are basically adults. There’s almost no rights in this universe that adults have that kids don’t.

There is one thing you forgot, they could of been meant to protect ash but got recalled once they completely got 4 to 5 gym badges.

Guess they should have followed Gary's lead and skip Sabrina for the 3 other random gym, badges.

i do think damian is the trainer with the charmander starter, but because of his mistreatment, its possible that he didnt give up, but was forced to. similarly, i could see the bulbasaur trainer be one of those 1 pokemon only trainer, because in the game bulbasaur has such an easy time early on, he could've easily gained all those 5 badges with bulbasaur alone... but meeting sabrina and then blaine could've been too hard, as both are extremely capable trainers, who also main its weakness. being poison grass, venusaur would have a hard time against either.

@@marcosdheleno I like this assumption. It's an interesting approach.

YOU CAN CHOOSE A CHARIZARD ? ! IS IT A SECRET POKEMON. i thought we start with charmander in red

@@lynetu lol. You knew what they meant.

@@lynetu no in pokemon red, and blue you can

@Family Fun Gaming Jokes and sarcasm aside, he did say Red in his reply comment when he said Charmander. So you're correcting him for saying Charmander is in Red, by you saying to him Charmander is in Red. He already said that in his comment above. He was making a sarcastic post about Charizard.

"The white hand drags you down...."

That tall teenage girl with the red outfit and blue hair was Assunta/Amanda and she's been confirmed to be from Viridian City and started after after Ash did.

At the same time, one might have move into town like a week ago. even some of the games kinda do this, I think? silver starts with you getting off the truck and going strait into the trainer job.

I don't know, this is the same Ash that could be fooled by basically any Team Rocket disguise at all. A talking Meowth? Oh those must be super common.

@@redkingdom15 fuck, that's true lmao

That’s a great theory

Gary had 10 badges lol so there are more cities and towns in the anime regions that the games don’t have

It was Kanto though!

There's an episode where Ash goes to a gym and lost to a sandshrew but the gym leader closes his gym and decides to go on an adventure

@@jodiaz01 it was't official

@@jodiaz01 AJ's Gym isn't a real Gym besides he doesn't have a Badge to give but I do believe he's the one that becomes Champion!

Damien must’ve sucked ass as a trainer if he couldn’t beat bug type Pokémon with a fire type

Back then Red and Ash had pretty much the same design with a few different details, same goes for Gary and Blue, it wouldn't make sense to have Red and Blue as separate characters from Ash and Gary

So what did Damian have?

@@Thor-Orion A Charmander that he was too much of a pussy to keep. I think Sei La was implying that all 3 Pallet Town starters would then be accounted for.

well maybe he simply didnt have anything to say about him?

This is off topic but it kinda fits with what you said I always had a theory that AJ became the champion!

Gary choose squirtle so the other two trainers choose charmander and bulbasaur

venusaur is part poison, which is weak to psychic attacks. so its possible he got his ass kicked by sabrina... but it could also be that he ended up against blaine instead, which being a fire type, would put his venusaur in sever disadvantage. for the charmander, i still think its damian, and because of the way he treats his pokemon, it could just be that he didnt give up, but was forced to.

I thought Adventures was just better in general.

I love reds op experimental eevee

Nah... Red fits way better with Charizard. Pokémon origins is the closest thing to the games and Red is accurately depicted in this series. The final Battle between Charizard and Blastoise was glorious!

The GS Ball was supposed to have Celebi in it, leading up to the Celebi movie.

The squirtle went to Gary, though. The gang squirtle couldn't have been the starter squirtle.

@@Gomace did it? Dang okay I spaced. Lol

Not to mention if Bulbasaur and Charizard (Gary got Squirtle) that Ash got were professor Oaks he would have recognized them

@@williamgrippo6160 not really. for one, ash never stored his charmander with oak, so he wouldnt have seen it. as for bulbasaur, while it was abandoned, there's nothing with him that says he was owned in the first place. it could've been that he was attacked by a trainer, who left him close to death, or was more cruel during the battle.

Yeah look backs like this definitely prove how messy and lacking first seasons in long running anime can be Just look at either Season 0 or 1 of Yugioh compared to 2 and forwards Johto certainly improved on many aspects Kanto lacked looking back: Ash actually BEATING the gyms instead of being gift his badges Less Team Rocket interference in big events like Gym Battles and League Competitions More rivals between adventure and league Larger Pokémon roster Actual Legendaries in episodes instead of being movie exclusive League lose was ACTUALLY FAIR by losing to a more challenging and equally skilled opponent and not a case of bullshit rules and direct interference by a CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION STEALING HIS POKÉMON BEFORE THE MATCH So much for all those Nurse Joys brought in, not even one to spar a few minutes to treat his team to aid a guy who literally came in on a known criminal groups hot air balloon Not obvious I’m still salty on how they handled the Indigo League match with Ritchie

yeah, the Bulbasaur trainer had it rough with 3 out of the 8 badges

@@georgeDeming in the games at least, it's more about who has the easiest early game since you have more options later on. Bulbasaur got 3-2-3. 3 super effective, 2 neutral and 3 not effective. With Brock, Misty and Giovanni in slot 1, Surge and Sabrina in slot 2 and Blaine, Erika, and Koga Squirtle 3-2-3 as well with Brock, Blaine, and Giovanni in the first slot, Koga and Sabrina in slot 2 and Miaty, Erika, and Surge in slot 3. Charmander gets a 1-4-3 Erika... that's it for slot 1st, Sabrina, Koga, Surge and Giovanni for slot 2. And slot 3 gets Brock, Misty, and Blaine.

The thing about the games is, they reward you even early on for catching other Pokémon. Choosing Charmander is "supposed" to be the hardest route, but that's only true if you don't catch and train any other Pokémon before Brock. An interesting advantage to choosing it that I noticed early on, is that Charmander has a much easier time blasting through Viridian Forest because he has an advantage against Bug, so it would be easier to hunt for a Pikachu and a Caterpie there with him. Though, granted with either of the other two, all you need is a Spearow to get through Viridian Forest easily, and then you can just use your starter against Brock. I mean, I suppose figuring out that you're supposed to catch Butterfree and raise it to level 12 to learn Confusion is a bit counter-intuitive, but Brock is the only fight that should possibly be difficult with Charmander. Even then, if you do insist on fighting Brock (or worse, Misty) with Charmander, your Charmander would likely be way overleveled by the end of it, and would steamroll the rest of the game. You would have to miss a lot of good Pokémon to make it even kind of true, and even then the excessive leveling up would balance it out and make the rest of the game easy.