Whoop 5.0 : I Didn't See This Coming...

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Brandon Talbot

Brandon Talbot

Күн бұрын

If the Whoop 5.0 has a screen I'm going to leave, what about you?
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@sarat2789
@sarat2789 3 ай бұрын
100% vote for no screen. I chose whoop because it can sit on bicep or wrist and blend in allowing me to use another watch without wearing 2.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Me too.
@williamtoth1476
@williamtoth1476 2 ай бұрын
I agree with no screen except I need away to tell time. Maybe like a light that shines through the band only telling time
@Casablancacyclist
@Casablancacyclist 3 ай бұрын
WHOOP 5.0 really needs a BUILT IN GPS…
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
1000% agree
@quarantineduckling
@quarantineduckling 3 ай бұрын
It does look like the AI just hallucinated. It knows what a whoop is and just extrapolated what the potential use of a screen would be. If it’s actually true, though, I’d be pretty surprised. Only way I see it not suck would be if the screen is just an e-ink display with a single number you configure in the app (maybe recovery) that is non interactive. Battery life wouldn’t suffer much either in that case.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
I assume if it has a screen it’s gonna be more interactive and real time
@AntisocialTrashman
@AntisocialTrashman 3 ай бұрын
The 5.0 should not have a screen, no need for it and that's not what the Whoop is about.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@thomaseaves6119
@thomaseaves6119 Ай бұрын
Maybe the AI simply hallucinated……
@Jimmybfit
@Jimmybfit 3 ай бұрын
If whoop wants a screen. Please make it, just put it on a battery pack.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
That would be rad
@YanikFrey
@YanikFrey 2 ай бұрын
I absolutely agree. This would make Whoop so much more interesting for runners. I know many runners who don't consider Whoop because it doesn't have screen and GPS. Adding a slide-on screen with GPS could solve this problem even for Whoop 4.0. And at the same time you can still choose not to have a screen for all the reasons we love Whoop now.
@skyayear2268
@skyayear2268 4 күн бұрын
They should prob add a pixel screen kinda like an Alexa home that just displays time
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 2 күн бұрын
I’d like that
@JDMullachabu
@JDMullachabu 3 ай бұрын
Whenever I get tempted to move away from my AW Ultra, I get drawn back to the your ‘Disconnect’ video. One of my favourites. You need to have more subscribers and viewers BTW - love the videos. Better quality than most out there, and definitely less dickish than some of those reviewers out there! Keep up the good fight Brandon!
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
That’s incredibly kind of you thank you so much for the support!
@caffeinatedcameras
@caffeinatedcameras 2 ай бұрын
Being less dickish is hugely important now-a-days.
@AndyNick211
@AndyNick211 2 күн бұрын
Did my guy just spend 8 minutes finding different ways to say he doesn’t want a screen? We get it
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot Күн бұрын
Great
@LuisMameri
@LuisMameri 2 ай бұрын
There are two improvements I wish for: 1) Please include a timer that buzzes at the end. It’s basically impossible to train your swimming (based on time in water) when there is no way for the whoop to tell you how long you’ve been swimming for. 2) GPS. I don’t need a screen, put please track my routes when I run. I guess I should switch to a Garmin, but I love the style of the whoop.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 2 ай бұрын
GPS would be really nice
@xjr1618x
@xjr1618x 3 ай бұрын
Used to have a Whoop but the subscription model just didn't do it for me anymore. Tooo many subscriptions in my life already. Currently my Apple Watch Ultra does everything for me. I did subscribe to you when I first got the Whoop. Great content, keep it up!!
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@christoigo3012
@christoigo3012 3 ай бұрын
Always appreciate your videos, bro. I know they take a lot of time. Keep up the good work.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
I appreciate it!
@themok3rify
@themok3rify 3 ай бұрын
Whoop 5.0 should come in 2 versions, screen and no screen. Problem solved
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@kareemebaid
@kareemebaid 2 ай бұрын
I guess a digital clock will be acceptable. Minimal design
@philipcinq-mars5021
@philipcinq-mars5021 3 ай бұрын
I'd personally love a low-tech digital screen with 80's digital watch functions only - time, date, stopwatch, and maybe a simple alert that instructs you to go to the app. I'd also love it if they made it completely solar powered.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Solar powered would be rad
@maxdixon920
@maxdixon920 2 ай бұрын
100% agree on this! a tiny little oled black and white screen that just displays time and maybe Miles/kilometers during workout etc. just very basic, but no way do I want a big ass screen on there.
@arikaGME
@arikaGME 3 ай бұрын
I specifically chose a Whoop because I’m a professional dog groomer. I constantly receive bites from dogs, and have my arms submerged in water. My Fitbit broke in under a month. Whoop’s strength is durability and placement options. A screen would never survive my lifestyle.
@TomislavMoze
@TomislavMoze 3 ай бұрын
Great video, not a Whoop person, but it was interesting to hear some thoughts about it, keep it up!
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Thanks buddy! Super cool of you to watch and support:)
@nathaniel6286
@nathaniel6286 3 ай бұрын
I’ve always liked the Whoop in concept due to the lack of screen, however I wear a watch and didn’t see the merit of paying that much per month for a fitness device when I could just buy another one outright that also functioned as a watch. It feels like whoop is trying to target me with this, their flawed assumption is that I would give up my Garmin for any other wearable. I like Garmin way too much. I would love if the whoop app would import the Garmin data and use that for the insights. I think adding a screen will alienate their current base without gaining too many new users.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
I think you’re right. I just don’t see them doing a screen better than the other screened wearables - they would have to offer some mind blowing features for me to wear two devices with screens
@guyboycecam1636
@guyboycecam1636 3 ай бұрын
Completely agree, I have recently swapped my Whoop for a Garmin and don't miss it at all
@fredgrejda4610
@fredgrejda4610 3 ай бұрын
I agree with a with and without screen approach 7:28 . I had an opportunity to interview with a Product Manager at Whoop and said no on screen. That answer seemed to resonate with the PM I won't wear two screens and Apple Watch wins.
@MattVibes
@MattVibes 2 ай бұрын
That’s definitely just a GPT hallucination though
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot Ай бұрын
👍🏼
@Youtube_mac
@Youtube_mac 3 ай бұрын
I wouldn’t like a screen per say, but a series of LEDs for the time and current HR would he handy
@xsmokye3242
@xsmokye3242 2 ай бұрын
Do you have any idea of the potential estimate date of when will the whoop will 5.0 come out.i am considering of buying the 4.0 but i feel its a waste of money if 5.0 will come in a couple of months
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 2 ай бұрын
No clue, but with the 4.0 it was a free upgrade for those who bought the 3.0 and a few months later the 4.0 came out.
@xsmokye3242
@xsmokye3242 2 ай бұрын
@@BrandonTalbot but will they do the same for the 5.0 .
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 2 ай бұрын
@@xsmokye3242 no clue
@0741921
@0741921 Ай бұрын
@@BrandonTalbotthey’re website says you will get free upgrades for future devices.
@vishaljain4915
@vishaljain4915 Ай бұрын
@@xsmokye3242they should their business model is the monthly sub so the device has no cost. They should just ship you the newest one. In fact existing members would probs get it first
@RobsRedemption
@RobsRedemption 2 ай бұрын
Gonna be honest here - the main reason I don't LOVE my Whoop is the lack of being at least able to tell the time on it. I have a newer Garmin watch and while I love it - I love the Whoop app and feel it's a bit more accurate in certain areas. But the reason I'm stuck wearing both is to tell the time. And I am starting to hate that. Got away with it in the Winter because of long sleeves, but not trying to look like a weirdo in the Summer (no offense to those who do wear two devices, but just seems a bit much for me).
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 2 ай бұрын
Hahahaha no offense taken. It is a bit much having two devices
@richs7792
@richs7792 3 ай бұрын
I’ve been on the fence about whoop since I started using Superset on the Apple Watch anyway but I agree with you… if you’re gonna have a screen on your wrist, might as well be one that can deliver notifications, Apple Pay, etc. as well as fitness data
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
It’s gonna be interesting to see what happens here and would hope they make a non screened version if they do offer a new version with a screen
@joehilson6058
@joehilson6058 3 ай бұрын
Superset is great and does 95% of what whoop can do, especially with the new strength trainer.
@Pterodactyl-kn3ve
@Pterodactyl-kn3ve 2 ай бұрын
I literally just put my whoop 4.0 in an arm band because I hate having things on my wrist. But I have allowed the whoop for 6 months. I honestly feel relieved w/o a wrist weight. So to speak. If whoop gets a screen… I’ll just go to an Apple Watch for the Apple ecosystem.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 2 ай бұрын
Hear you on that
@louishebert571
@louishebert571 21 күн бұрын
An always on ink display with just time and maybe a stop watch would not be bad
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 14 күн бұрын
Maybe they'll come out with that option!
@MasterFloop
@MasterFloop 3 ай бұрын
The only way I could see a screen being useful would be for strength trainer entirely from the wrist I hate having to have my phone on me while I tap through my workout. But that’s literally it.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Haven’t thought about that scenario before!
@priuxs477
@priuxs477 2 ай бұрын
What would be nice is upgrade whoops memory up to 24 hrs instead of only 3 hrs. So we can be away from all the screens and focus on the run or workout or family or job and not have to get realtime destractions.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 2 ай бұрын
I love that
@JimmysJohn33
@JimmysJohn33 14 күн бұрын
This product is great but only for the first 2-3 months. After that you start to understand what you need to do. So in my personal experience it’s great for short term.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 14 күн бұрын
Yeah if you're someone that can run some good self experiments then you can gleam what you need off the short term, but I've been using it for 4 years and I'm constantly learning new things about myself.
@fredgrejda4610
@fredgrejda4610 3 ай бұрын
Any updates from Whoop after your video?
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Replied to your other comment with their answer:)
@victorroth6698
@victorroth6698 3 ай бұрын
Did you do the grading mistake at 4:50 to show off your skills ;) haha video awesome as always
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Gotta see who’s paying attention haha
@leafmountain
@leafmountain 2 ай бұрын
Haha I would be surprised and worried if whoop trained the AI on their internal data
@rakoman4234
@rakoman4234 20 күн бұрын
Cant wait for apple watch to make the same tech on it, not having a screen is stupid.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 17 күн бұрын
That’s a huge segment of us that absolutely don’t want another screen
@tomkrusic1104
@tomkrusic1104 3 ай бұрын
love the rant and totally agree with you. I'd discontinue use if it had a screen.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
I do rant from time to time
@tomkrusic1104
@tomkrusic1104 3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonTalbot I think on this topic it was perfect.
@mhe_golf1215
@mhe_golf1215 3 ай бұрын
Same page with you, if whoop 5.0 has screen I’m moving to garmin or hoping Apple Watch later has recovery metrics like whoop
@markoniksic3630
@markoniksic3630 3 ай бұрын
Apple is unfortunately better then Whoop, has all the metrics whoop has and more.
@mhe_golf1215
@mhe_golf1215 3 ай бұрын
@@markoniksic3630 not entirely, Apple might have the best sensor but they don’t utilize it correctly in order to save battery… all Apple needs to do is copy whoop’s app and they would be golden. Lmao
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
In someways yes, and in many other ways no. @@markoniksic3630
@L-dw5sx
@L-dw5sx 3 ай бұрын
It does with the Athlytic app exactly the same metrics as whoop I dumped whoop for apple a while back Waiting for the new garmin instinct 3 tho 😛
@markoniksic3630
@markoniksic3630 3 ай бұрын
Thats what im saying, if they want to be competative and make people pick whoop they need more precise and up to date metrics, not a damn screen */faceroll@@L-dw5sx
@jnee
@jnee 2 ай бұрын
I also think the AI is hallucinating here and making stuff up. The only screen I would accept is a tiny LCD display like you would find on an old casio, starting and stopping an activity from the strap would be handy with maybe a super simple bar that shows your strain score / optimal zone
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully if it does have a screen they make version that doesn’t or the screen can be removed if desired
@priuxs477
@priuxs477 2 ай бұрын
If there is a screen on whoop 5.0 then i am out. Only thing i would love them to add is something that can count my steps. IF whoop decides to put a screen on the 5.0 please keep the 4.0 available.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 2 ай бұрын
Same
@NeilBerget
@NeilBerget 3 ай бұрын
You can ask the whoop coach why Whoop 5.0 won't have a screen and it will gladly give you an answer... The AI is just trying to tell people what they want to hear.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Yeah if you ask it about 5.0 or at least Everytime I try it shuts it down really fast
@justplanefred
@justplanefred 3 ай бұрын
I kinda like whoop the way it is. I'm not against a screen but if it does It still needs to be able to be charged without being taken off. I wish Apple and other watch companies would figure out how to charge without taking it off. I don't care if it covers the screen for an hour or so... Its fine don't make me have to leave it behind while I go about my day to charge.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Yeah having a screen is really going to change the way they’ll have to do things?
@X.C_
@X.C_ 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for covering this BT. I haven’t gotten a Whoop yet, but most definitely will not get one if it has a screen on it. The battery life will then suffer. HARD PASS
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s gonna crush battery I bet
@SteveBIRK
@SteveBIRK 3 ай бұрын
I would find it interesting if they had multiple devices. If there is 5 that is the same design as the 4 but upgraded internals AND a device that is a watch, you could choose what's best for you. I do also agree that a Apple Watch app and/or partnering with Garmin to get your data on there would be great as well. I find that more and more the sport watches only add value with running because knowing pace and HR zones is very important. It would also be cool if the Whoop app for Apple Watch works like athlytic if it were possible. Although I find myself wearing my apple watch less and less because the whoop is more comfortable. Kind of a long winded way of saying I hope the 5 is the same as the 4 but if they offered a smart watch/smart watch app integrations that would be fine.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Long winded is just fine haha
@BxSquared
@BxSquared 2 ай бұрын
Maybe screen could be attached when wanted or two versions
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 2 ай бұрын
If it has a screen id also like versions
@Allancrossac
@Allancrossac 3 ай бұрын
Any ideas when the 5.0 is going to release?
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
I think it’s coming early summer but I have no intimate knowledge of the release date
@notgate2624
@notgate2624 3 ай бұрын
Was all of this based on a single AI's response? They hallucinate all the time, especially if you provide a leading question like that.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Well it’s not really how this AI works and I posed the same question and it gave me much different answers - but yes I know they’re not perfect, and if you watch the video I talk about its validity
@mr.morales0707
@mr.morales0707 Ай бұрын
Would love the whoop to have a screen. But a cheap one so the costs doesn’t go up to much
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 14 күн бұрын
It would be nice if they came out with a screened option.
@mr.morales0707
@mr.morales0707 14 күн бұрын
Very true
@artisanone
@artisanone Ай бұрын
Take that image with a pinch of salt. AI can hallucinate when it comes to information it does not have.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot Ай бұрын
I am.
@danielkjennings
@danielkjennings 3 ай бұрын
What if they did a Whoop 5.0 and a Whoop 5.0+ or Whoop 5.0Pro? (so a newer whoop that is what you want, one with and one without a screen) Though they are the minority, there are clearly people that want a screen. Maybe they don't want an Apple Watch or Samsung watch but want the screen that those provide for quick time check etc... I'm not even a Whoop user, I can NOT get behind a monthly subscription for data on my metrics
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Sure I’m down with that. I’d love the option.
@fredgrejda4610
@fredgrejda4610 3 ай бұрын
Any response to your inquiry with Whoop?
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
from my contact at Whoop - "Hi Brandon, Thanks for asking! Unfortunately I do not have any info to share on the next generation of WHOOP technology. Rest assured that when the time does come, we'll have information for you to prepare for it."
@fredgrejda4610
@fredgrejda4610 3 ай бұрын
I speak “corporate” and that answer is in all the books. Lol.
@alkendimacale8047
@alkendimacale8047 9 сағат бұрын
thanks for the free month homie!
@maureenmatt
@maureenmatt 3 ай бұрын
Do you wear the whoop and a smart watch? I love the idea of the whoop stats and info but need my Apple Watch for work…
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
All the time! It’s a great combo
@Tedtopdawg
@Tedtopdawg Ай бұрын
I doubt it will have a screen
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot Ай бұрын
Given what the CEO Will has said “It’s not a watch.” I don’t think so either
@BxSquared
@BxSquared 2 ай бұрын
It would be nice for just time
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 2 ай бұрын
Yeah an all in one would be nice
@zedsprocket5857
@zedsprocket5857 3 ай бұрын
I wanna know why it never tracks afternoon naps 🤘
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Does yours not?
@zedsprocket5857
@zedsprocket5857 3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonTalbot not once in like two months and I’m a night worker so it makes a big difference to all the recovery metrics 👍
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Huh that's interesting, have you reached out to support?@@zedsprocket5857
@Casablancacyclist
@Casablancacyclist 3 ай бұрын
Sometimes it waits until you don’t have a night sleep, then it converts your afternoon nap to the sleep of the day… But the problem is when u have a sleep after your night shift it considered as a nap !!! And your recovery is ruined. What I do, is converting the nap, detected after my night work, to a sleep. Then automatically it converts the sleep (which was originally a nap from yesterday) to a nap. And your recovery is recalculated…
@dailylifevlogs6395
@dailylifevlogs6395 3 ай бұрын
Why dont you email them and ask yourself?
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
I did.
@dailylifevlogs6395
@dailylifevlogs6395 3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonTalbot what did they say?
@markoniksic3630
@markoniksic3630 3 ай бұрын
I was on the fence of ordering one, gonna pass now.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s gonna be interesting
@christipolk5128
@christipolk5128 4 күн бұрын
no screen please!!!
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot Күн бұрын
🙏🏽
@bobafet5363
@bobafet5363 2 ай бұрын
Just for the accuracy I’m not interested in that product. Have a great day
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 2 ай бұрын
You too
@e16boii
@e16boii 3 ай бұрын
Whoop needs accuracy more than anything, current heart rate and sleep tracking errors make it borderline unusable
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Accuracy would be a welcome improvement
@guyboycecam1636
@guyboycecam1636 3 ай бұрын
Agreed, that was the main reason I ditched mine for a Garmin watch, the results were so unreliable
@fredgrejda4610
@fredgrejda4610 3 ай бұрын
Your code seems to be missing a digit assuming it is for a Whoop team.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Really? Thanks for notifying me I’ll get it fixed
@fredgrejda4610
@fredgrejda4610 3 ай бұрын
Worked for me now. Might have been user error.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
It had an "=" when it should have had a "-"@@fredgrejda4610
@hutchnorris5858
@hutchnorris5858 2 ай бұрын
This is all based on a gross misunderstanding of AI. The AI just assumed that the guy was right in saying that there will be a screen on the Whoop 5.0. That does not mean that it knows that there will be a screen. I asked ChatGPT the two following questions and below are the responses. What will the screen be used for on the Whoop 5.0? The Whoop 5.0 is primarily used as a fitness tracker, so the screen will likely display various metrics such as heart rate, calories burned, sleep data, activity levels, and possibly notifications from your phone. It's designed to give you real-time insights into your fitness and recovery levels. Why won’t there be a screen on the Whoop 5.0? The absence of a screen on the Whoop 5.0 might be a design choice aimed at minimizing distractions and maximizing battery life. By focusing on providing data primarily through the app, users can access detailed information and analytics without the need for a screen on the device itself. Additionally, this design approach may promote a more streamlined and minimalist aesthetic.
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot Ай бұрын
I could see where you’d think that however I can assure you I understand the ease at which AI can “Hallucinate” - this is a speculatory video to get a conversation going. Alongside legitimate rumors of 5.0 being different.
@VC-mz1rj
@VC-mz1rj 3 ай бұрын
Please please no screen 🙏🏻
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Right?!
@Masacci0
@Masacci0 3 ай бұрын
Whoop Coach is pretty much useless and hallucinates constantly making things up. That said, Whoop has the best chance, with its form factor, to do anything they want, remember they have a battery attachment for the band, they could easily add a screen to a battery pack, so people could attach it to the pod ad use it only when really needed, while keeping the distinctive non-intrusive form factor in the rest of the occasions. I mean, the added battery and screen would be huge for ultrarunners, and dreaming even more, they could put a gps chip in the screen/battery module, why not on the whoop 5 itself? Because the fitness band form factor(maybe for the small dimensions) showed to be hardly compatible with gps antennae(fitbit charge is an example).
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Some great ideas here
@DrewPeabawls
@DrewPeabawls 3 ай бұрын
“I’m done” with hand on your face. A little dramatic…
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
Cool
@jeffersonyepez6601
@jeffersonyepez6601 3 ай бұрын
Any idea when the 5.0 will be coming out? Any rumors?
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
I suspect the early summer
@lewdude2k8
@lewdude2k8 3 ай бұрын
@@BrandonTalbotwhat makes you come to this conclusion? I hope you’re right it feels like it’s never gonna be announced/come out tbh
@BrandonTalbot
@BrandonTalbot 3 ай бұрын
@@lewdude2k8 It's combination of Past release history, Will Ahmed's posts, and just gut feeling
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