Why a UMC professor thinks the Bible is dangerous!

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Churches splitting over LGBTQIA issues? A Perkins seminary professor thinks the Bible is dangerous to read. This United Methodist minister doesn't want you to take the Bible seriously or authoritatively. Was he ever converted?
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@joer5627 Ай бұрын

Just one no re reason a massive number congregations left the UMC. They have lost their minds

@biblewalkwithjohn Ай бұрын

They are truly embracing the doctrine of demons. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.

@terrypolen4241 Ай бұрын

Thank you Pastor John for your wonderful words of wisdom. We should not be surprised by the response from the world and the rejection of the Bible. I believe that it is the root of all of the confusion and conflict and collapse of our mainline churches. We are warned so many times that people will pick and choose and only accept what they want to accept, not allow the Bible to change their way and mind, but to attempt to change the Word of Christ to the way of life in the world. THANK YOU! God bless you. 🙏

@biblewalkwithjohn Ай бұрын

The word of God is truly a two-edged sword. It divides up those who follow God and those who follow Satan. I want to be like John Wesley described himself - a "bible bigot." You don't get to pick and choose. Thank you. And keep praying for the lost and deceived.

@saintsheepy6682 Ай бұрын

Any so-called "minister" like "Reverend" Holberg who claims that the Bible is "dangerous" is not of God but a wicked wolf in sheep's clothing; false prophets that were perfectly explained in Matthew 7:15-23 and the second chapter of 2 Peter. I'm thinking of hopefully becoming a local pastor of my church (or re-opening a closed but still standing Baptist church in a town near me) only I'd take my duty seriously and not do it like what that apostate is doing (and this is from someone who was raised Baptist, left church when I was 10, was a lukewarm Christian in my teens to early 20s, but now am in a Congregationalist church after slowly but surely coming back to Christ). _And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God._ Luke 4:12 KJV

@biblewalkwithjohn Ай бұрын

Amen! It's wicked that he was teaching people this heresy for so many years. He will stand before God in judgment and will have to answer for this. Happy to hear you are considering becoming a local pastor. Stand firm in the faith and God will be with you. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.

@pdt4776 Ай бұрын

He did not say the bible was dangerous-this is click bait by this pastor again. He stated that the way it is read is dangerous because it leads to hate specifically toward the LBGQT+ people. This against what Jesus teaches and the apostles teach which is Love. Dr. Holberg, a Hebrew scholar goes into detail on the specific versus that are taken out of context. BTW- Dr. Holerg is married with grown children so he is not writing this with any bias. All churches and Christians should be welcoming and affirming because we are all sinners.

@pdt4776 Ай бұрын

He did not say the bible was dangerous-this is click bait by this pastor. He stated that the way it is read is dangerous because it leads to hate specifically toward the LBGQT+ people. This is against what Jesus teaches and the apostles teach which is Love. Dr. Holberg, a Hebrew scholar goes into detail on the specific versus that are taken out of context. BTW- Dr. Holberg is married with grown children so he is not writing this with any bias.

@johnbreitmeier3268 Ай бұрын

@@pdt4776 Being married with children does NOT prevent bias nor mean that you are NOT a sexual pervert. Most Romans in the first century were bisexual. It is Holberg that is deliberately misreading the Bible. Paul was a far better Hebrew scholar and he said homosexuality IS sinful. Romans 1:26-27. For thousands of years Hebrew and Greek scholars said homosexuality WAS definitely a sin. For thousands of years Hebrew and Greek scholars ALL read that homosexual behavior IS a sin. Only in the last 50 years after our culture rejected God did the translation get suddenly questioned. SMH

@pdt4776 Ай бұрын

@@johnbreitmeier3268 Correct. And Paul is specifically referring to those for have rejected God (see 1:18-25) and made themselves idols. The ungodly-then Paul warns everyone against passing judgement on others in chapter 2. Here in lies the issue at hand: people read v 26-27 out-of-context and use it as "proof texting" for hate and bigotry and then pass judgement on that particular group. That sin is no greater then lying which is an "abomination to the Lord". ALL sinners are welcome to become adopted as a child of God and have their sins forgiven, past present and future (Rom 5:8).

@davidodell6608 Ай бұрын

Well said! Thank you, and God bless you and your ministry!

@biblewalkwithjohn Ай бұрын

Thank you. I appreciate your support. We all must keep praying for the lost and deceived in this world. God bless you.

@11jimbo11 Ай бұрын

Amen Brother!

@biblewalkwithjohn Ай бұрын

Thank you. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.

@georgemitchell5855 Ай бұрын

The love of God is like a football game, like a tennis game , a basketball game, there are boundaries that stop the game if outside. Gods love is not unconditional, check out the boundaries He sets forth, and don't go out of them. Gods love is for everyone, don;t step outside them, or miss out!!!

@jamesmiller800 Ай бұрын

How can you be a minister of the Christian faith regardless of denomination, and not believe the bible?

@biblewalkwithjohn Ай бұрын

I know. It's amazing that there are people out there like this. But Jesus warned us of wolves coming into the sheepfold. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.

@annewells2306 18 күн бұрын

I've met several. I think some reasons are "intellectual " pride (they see themselves as "enlightened"), guarantee of a job, and good old fashioned money (salary/pension).

@Reginald-rr1gh Ай бұрын

The bible is dangerous because once you read it, you’re accountable for what you do with it. That’s why Jesus’ teaching his disciples in parables was an act of mercy toward unbelievers. Because they didn’t understand them.

@biblewalkwithjohn Ай бұрын

Amen. Jesus said if you claim you see, you are more accountable. But without seeing, you never find the glorious truth of the gospel. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.

@pdt4776 Ай бұрын

To ALL who believe Jesus Christ as our Savior have the right to become children of God. God forgives ALL our sins: past, present, and future. Forgiveness comes as a total package; God does not forgive us partially but wholly. “There is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus” (Romans 8:1). Nothing, not even our future sins, will condemn us. There are no church pews filled with sinless people to think other wise is self-righteousness or pride. The Bible teaches that, after salvation, we continue to sin (1 John 1:8; 2:1). We won’t reach sinless perfection this side of glory. God imputes or accredits the perfect righteousness of Jesus Christ to the believing sinner while he is still in his sinning state (Rom 3:21-22). All churches should be welcoming and affirming. Praying for you that you would read the Bible and see what it says about sin and Gods Love. If you don't sin then Jesus died for nothing.

@GSpotter63 Ай бұрын

But there's a very big difference between "trying not to sin" and "promoting it or saying it is OK"...... Saying "Oops I screwed up" and "don't worry about it you will be forgiven." Remember God knows your heart he knows exactly what you're doing and why. Having attractions is not a sin but looking the other way while they're being acted on or even promoting them is.

@biblewalkwithjohn Ай бұрын

We do want to welcome all people to come to church and hear the gospel - which includes the fact that without repentance and belief, we are condemned. No where are we told in the Bible to affirm a person who refuses to repent. Praying for you.

@GSpotter63 Ай бұрын

@@pdt4776 When Jesus stopped the stoning of the woman caught in adultery he told her to go and sin no more.... As a church we should follow his example.

@kevinkelly1586 Ай бұрын

I never thought that I'd hear Calvinism used to advocate "affirming" LGBTQ's.

@MelodyHook-ir3rf 4 күн бұрын

Amen

@Thedougkile Ай бұрын

I think it's telling that despite the title, Holbert never actually addresses what the Bible really says, conveniently cutting off the passage from 1 Timothy four verses early.

@pdt4776 Ай бұрын

If you click on additional reading in the article he goes into detail. Also the additional verses end with 11 "that conforms to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I was entrusted." Which is self explanatory. He is saying false teachers are teaching the law as this pastor teaches. Paul taught that if you are in Christ " we have died to the law" (Rom 7:4,6) and are free from "the law of sin and death" (Rom 8:2). Praying for you and this pastor that you would read the Bible and see what it says about sin and Gods Love.

@biblewalkwithjohn Ай бұрын

False believers always seek to twist the scriptures to justify themselves. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.

@HoldToChrist Ай бұрын

I think John Wesley does have some iffy areas in terms of the Bible. At least I’ve heard. I haven’t had as much of a chance to look into it as I’d like.

@biblewalkwithjohn Ай бұрын

There are areas of most theologians I might differ with. But he definitely wasn't someone who downplayed the Bible. His life is fascinating - even just as history. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.

@georgemitchell5855 Ай бұрын

The bible is dangerous!!! It exposes the sin of humanity.

@biblewalkwithjohn 27 күн бұрын

Amen. That's the reason you see so many try to put it down. They don't want to repent. Keep praying for the lost and deceived.