^_^ Great ! Do you know who was Helen Mar Kimball ? Or Nancy Winchester ? By the way in mormons beliefs, I will like to know : What is your definition of the word pedophilia ? And Are you against pedophilia ?

@@apologetiquesinvestigations yes, I’m against pedophilia. Are you? You ask dumb questions. I talked about my spiritual witness of the truthfulness of the Book of Mormon and you ask if I’m against pedos. The Book of Mormon concludes with an account of the visit Jesus Christ made to the Americas after His resurrection. Wouldn’t you want to find out if that is true? If you are implying that Joseph Smith is somehow an immoral man, you won’t be the first person to do that. For the last 200 years people have tried and failed to stop the great work he was called to do. Any accusations you think you have against him are surely either lies or something you completely misunderstand. I do not worship him, I simply believe he was and is God’s prophet in the last days. There is nothing the world can do or say to change that.

BOM is not true, and it can't be Scripture. It does not help that Joseph Smith got it from unclean spirits and/or the occult.

​​@@apologetiquesinvestigationsalter boys? Did I get it right?

@camerondariverrat407 ^_^ Great ! Did you notice you didn't answer to my questions !!? Don't be ashamed, it's alright You just need to repent ! We both know that pedophilia is a SIN even among the unbelievers pedophilia is BAD, back then and ALWAYS will be. At this point I have to warn you ! WARNING Pedophilia is a SIN and EVERY people who practice pedophilia, if they don't repent, will go to HELL ( Mark 9: 42-48) I invite you to repent of pedophilia and CONDAMN those who practice pedophilia or you will go to HELL. Just warn you Now that you know it is good, may Our Lord Jesus-Christ help you ! I have another question for y'all mormons : What do you think about the African race ? Brigham Young said : Shall I tell you THE LAW OF GOD in regard to THE AFRICAN RACE ? If the white man who BELONGS TO THE CHOSEN SEED mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the PENALTY, under THE LAW OF GOD, is DEATH ON THE SPOT. This will ALWAYS be so. Brigham Young (Journal of Discourses 10:110-111) Speech in March 8, 1863. Brigham Young said : You see some classes of the human family that are BLACK, uncouth, uncomely, DISAGREEABLE and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the INTELLIGENCE that is generaly bestowed upon mankind... Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a TERMINATION to that line of human beings. This was not to be, and the Lord put a MARK UPON HIM, which is the FLAT NOSE and BLACK SKIN. Brigham Young ( Journal of Discourses volume 7: p.290) Speech in 1863. Do you agree with Brigham Young here ? And Is it TRUTHLY from God ?

Christian’s don’t like the BoM for many valid reasons. One of them is how it plagiarized the Bible so many times yet claims it’s all original material. In mine and 99.96 percent of the people in the world it is not a book worth a darn.

If you use that argument they will say there is proof for bible

Hi @StompMom5 ! You don't know me and so I expect no response if you do not wish to give one. However, on the chance that you do, I would like to ask you 2 questions. You started your comment on this video by saying, "it has always surprised [you] that people automatically believe the Bible without evidence but call the book of Mormon a fraud." So here are my 2 questions: 1) How did you come to the conclusion that people automatically believe the Bible without evidence? (Not saying some don't do that. Just asking how YOU came to that conclusion.) 2) Based on what evidence do you believe the Book of Mormon and do you think you are able to say that it was not, as you put in when referreing to the Bible, "automatic" in the same way you meant it about how others "automatically" believe the Bible? I would be honored by your time and attention, should you choose to reply.

I'm gonna have to challenge the idea that people believe the Bible without evidence.

COMMENT 1 of 2 Hello @hjohnson996 ! If I may, with respect, I would like to respond to a couple of the things you said here. 1) "I find it odd how many Christians believe that Satan would inspire a book and a church in Jesus's name just to "muddy the water." ---With this comment in mind, do you think you would still say that if you thought about all the lies you've ever heard or told yourself? Think about how close to the truth lies often need to be in order to be believable. In the garden, Satan did not deny God gave Adam a direct command. He simply flat out used Gods own words and twisted them into a deception. People who make counterfeit American money do not make something that looks like money in Japan or Mexico. No one would fall for it. It has to seem as close to the real thing as possible to achieve its intended deception. 2) "They seem to believe that God wouldn't save all the people who accept him and his gospel." --- I must disagree with you here. Biblical Christianity does not believe that at all. In fact, biblical Christianity absolutely affirms that anyone who genuinely accepts Christ and His gospel and surrenders their life to Him will be saved. I submit to you a challenge to review the gospel and the christ you have and test it against the gospel and Christ revealed in the Bible. Your first reaction may be to say that you already have but I would suggest that you search yourself and really compare the gospel in the Book of Mormon to the one in the Bible, very carefully. I do not say that as an insult. I say that from the bottom of my heart which cares so very deeply for people whom Satan has successfully, in his craftiness, led astray through a heavy influence on their choice to reject the truth. "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from Him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." Gal 1:6-8 --- This verse tells us that it is possible to have a "gospel" being preached that is not the gospel at all and that some will believe it - wholeheartedly, even. Just because you say the name jesus and call it the gospel doesn't make it so. "For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse" Rom 1:20 --- The thing that scares Christians about what Mormons believe is that the truth of God is made available to everyone but Mormons have accepted a lie instead and that intentional choice (yes, intentional; read on) to reject God, as He has revealed Himself to mankind, will condem their souls to be separated from Him forever. Just like Adam and Eve were given the truth, directly from God, they were still able to be deceived by accepting a false truth from Satan in place of what God said. It was their own intentional choice to have the truth that God gave them directly, and still reject it. They literally walked with God Himself in the garden and Satan's craftiness mixed with their own desire was still able to pull them away from what God said straight to them. Think of how much more easily he can influence those of us not literally walking in the garden with God Himself to make a choice that we, in our own wisdom, desire to be the truth, even if its not. Please don't be mistaken; the best lies sound like the truth but God has made it possible so that no one on the earth will ever be able to say they had an excuse. Deception is not an excuse. God has placed the truth about Himself in our hearts and if we allow ourselves to be deceived it is a choice. "For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness" Rom 1:18 --- Just because you say all the right-sounding words doesn't mean you believe in the one true God. Muslims believe in Allah. I don't disagree with them. In their language Allah just means God. If Allah matches with the god of the Bible then they have the truth. However, even though they say that they believe in God, the "god" Muhammad crafted is made to look like the exact same God of Abraham but if you study what they believe it is not. Jesus said that if you reject Him you reject the Father. They reject Jesus as the Son of God, who died for the sins of the world and was resurrected - providing eternal life to anyone who genuinely surrenders to Him as Lord and accepts His righteousness in place of their sin, making them right with God and able to spend eternity in His very presence. But they swear they have the truth and that they believe in the God of the Bible. You can paint a pig to look like a rabbit but it's still a pig. As the verse above says, though we have the truth of God written on our hearts, we suppress the truth in unrighteousness when we choose to follow after Satan's lies. Just like Adam and Eve did. And God made Himself very clear in His word: even if an angel from heaven (Moroni maybe? - or rather Nephi, until Joseph changed his mind - look it up), preaches any other gospel to you than that which God sent forth in His word (BEFORE the Book of Mormon was "brought forth" - and if you say, as the 8th Article of Faith confirms, you believe in the Bible as God's word, then you should be testing any "word" of His that comes forth later by that which came forth earlier (as Paul commended the Bereans for), let him be accursed. Joseph has been accursed for working with the enemy to preach another gospel and I desperately want those who have fallen for the lie, even though God has made sure everyone has the truth but must simply accept and live by it, to be freed from its shackles before it's too late.

COMMENT 2 of 2 You said "how can you believe in a "just" God who damns anyone who is misled?" I challenge you to consider whether or not they were unknowingly misled. As I said before, Adam and Eve definitively knew exactly what the truth was, straight from the mouth of God. They were "misled" by Satan when they chose to exchange what God said for what he said. God is not damning people who haven't made a choice to be damned. You might say, 'why would anyone choose to be damned?" The thing is, they are not directly chosing damnation; what they are choosing is the god that they want; not the God that is. Damnation (being separated from God), is just the result. They don't want to be separated from God. They just so badly want God to be what they want Him to be that they're willing to believe he actually is at any cost - working really hard to convince themselves that that's not what's happened. Sometimes I really wish that Jonathan Roomie (plays Jesus on the TV show "The Chosen") really is Jesus. If he is, then I could figure out a way to actually get to him and wrap my arms around him like I so desperately want to do with the real Jesus. My desire to do that could get so strong that I could be willing to set aside the truth so that I could fulfill my desire. But me desperately wanting Jonathan Roomie to be the real Jesus doesn't make him the real Jesus. If I work hard enough to convince myself of the lie, so that I can have the experience that I want, and I begin to place my trust in Jonathan Roomie for my salvation (Johnathan cannot save me, only the real Jesus can) I've rejected God's truth and therefore God Himself. And God will allow me to live in that rejection because it was my choice. God is a gentleman. He will not force people into an eternity in His presence against their will. If they want to be with God, they would choose to be. The problem is the real God is not always what people want Him to be so they fashion a god in their own image and in a way that pleases them and choose that as the truth so that the god they serve is a god of their own making; fulfilling their own desires instead of the desires of the real God. He provides them the truth and it is their choice to reject it. All God is doing is giving them what they've chosen. God clearly told them who He is and the true gospel being preached from His word explains that their sins separate them from Him and that they must accept Christ's gift in order to wipe out their debt to Him and make it possible for them to be in his presence for eternity. People like Joseph Smith take the real God and make one that looks just like him but fits better with the human desire to make one's self god instead. Being damned isn't just God's big-mean-man-in-the-sky way of punishing people because He has some big ego that they're not feeding into like he wants them to. Damnation is literally separation from God which is a conscious choice. The LDS church teaches lies. I will even grant you that I believe there is genuine desire to do what is right in spreading the Mormon gospel. The problem is, the truth was once there and has now been suppressed behind hardened hearts because the desire for the Mormon gospel to be true is so strong that even those who had the capacity to understand it was a lie have convinced themselves enough that the truth has become something that they are not even capable of seeing anymore. So, genuine, well-meaning desire is there but it doesn't make it the truth. You can be sincere and still be sincerely wrong. God is calling you to reject the lie because you know, deep down, what the truth really is but you suppress the truth in unrighteousness, as a sinner. Repent and step away from the idol of self (the lie Satan tells through the Mormon religion that you can be exalted one day and become god, just like god did himself) and run to the arms of the only true God who literally took your place in payment of your debt and calls you to stop loving the version of Him you've chosen and surrender to the REAL thing. Again, these words of mine are not out of malice or out of trying to be the "winner" or out of boredom and finding entertainment in picking on Mormons. My heart has been turned, by God, to those who have chosen false gospels and false religions because, "Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish" (Matt 18:14) and, as one who has been adopted into the family of God by being sealed with the Holy Spirit when I surrendered to Christ, my greatest desire is to do the will of God. I am still a sinful broken human that fails at living every single moment for God's will but, nevertheless, it remains my greatest desire. I say these words out of love to you. I genuinely hope you receive them that way.

@@katiesonlinename nice thesis statement, you should send it to the CES.

^_^ hey mormons, Do you know who was Helen Mar Kimball ? Or Nancy Winchester ? By the way in mormons beliefs, I will like to know : What is your definition of the word pedophilia ? And Are you against pedophilia ?

@@apologetiquesinvestigations Hey do you know who Mary the mother of Jesus is? How old was she when she gave birth to Jesus Christ? Scholars estimate she was 12. Women were married much younger in biblical times right? What about the 1800’s? Have you read Jane Austen? If so you would know that girls aged 15 and older were often married to much older men. You can’t apply today’s American standards to different time periods and cultures. And yes pedophila is evil! So is bearing false witness!

What if you are a devout Christian and read the BoM and find it doesn't resonate as His voice? What if you read it an it seems like KJV fan fiction? Not an attack, just wondering what you'd say to someone like that.

LOL 😂 as I have like 4 copies of the Book of Mormon and and a Commentary on the Book of Mormon( the smaller plates of Nephi ) volume 1. By Reynolds and Sjodahl Edited and arranged by Philip C. Reynolds Salt Lake City, Utah copyright 1955. 1976 Deseret Press. It's quite obviously the Book of Mormon ISN'T a second witness and contradicts the Bible in many places: there is much evidence of Biblical City's in the middle East: none of you're Mormon cultures have been found in the three Hypothesis of where the Book of Mormon is supposedly to have happened! You're still guessing about everything in the Book of Mormon!

​@davidjanbaz7728 where does it contradict.

In fact the Bible doesn’t support trinitarianism the biggest one they all skip over is the baptism of Jesus Christ

Test of a true prophet? 100% accuracy. JS fails the test..hense a false profit$$$$$

@@user-ts8sn5ts2z which prophecy’s are they because the only one I can see is the temple but that one was conditional that’s how you should look at prophecy’s is conditional unless they get fulfilled the way it was discribed example Jonah said that Nivea would be destroyed in 40 days from him giving that prophecy guess what it didn’t happen

What about the numerous offshoot groups that have interpreted the BoM more fundamentally (as Brigham Young and Joseph Smith first did) and are gathering many wives, some of them teenagers? Does the book bless the world in these instances? Or is it more nuanced?

Another testament. But does that mean a correct one?

Glad you think so!

Thank you for the heads up!! We will learn how to adjust those. God bless you!

I agree, though I would add that recognizing how much the BoM furthers the work of Christianity, we all benefit from the BoM being true, and this is exciting stuff!

They are indications of plagiarism that point to the fact the book is drawn from Joseph Smith's imagination and his interaction with the collective imagination of his age (KJV bible, conspiracies about the origins of the native Americans read Fawn Brodies bio on Smith).

We have done a video talking about it already! Go to our Grace and Works video!!

This is so interesting!

Actually?? Yo where can I get some more information on that?

Hey I would say Christianity is not built on man’s interpretation of the bible. A Christian’s faith is built on the testimony of the eye witnesses of Jesus and his gospel. The Bible is not our “God” but the “God” the Bible speaks of, Is.

@@tindomania6367 That would be a reliance on another's testimony, while not having one of your own, or not having a personal relationship with God. It is like the ten virgins parable. Five had oil of their own. The other five did not. They had to borrow it and were late to the event and closed out. When Jesus asked Peter who he thinks he is. Peter said thou art the Christ the Son of the living God. And Jesus said that flesh had not revealed it to Peter, but his Father in heaven. And that upon that rock(personal revelation)he would build his Church. Jesus also taught to build on a solid foundation. Scriptures and words on paper aren't a solid foundation. They are only words on paper about a foundation. Jesus also said there is no eternal life in the scriptures. So where does one look if not to God himself. That is where the Bible points. Paul taught that scriptures are good for the man of God. But that is not to say that scriptures make you a man of God. To think it does would be like saying that if raw meat is good for a lion, then eating it will make you a lion. It doesn't. There is a difference between knowing scriptures about God, and knowing God. Knowing God by his first knowing you, makes you a man of God. Then the scriptures can be appropriately applied. Otherwise we are merely actors with scripts, vying for the part, posing and emoting in great vanity, but to no real avail.

Which james? Peter James and John were on the mount of transfiguration, the one who wrote the epistle of James was Jesuses half brother. Who are you talking about?

You forget Saul/Paul, Thomas, and others. Also Mat 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, Mat 27:53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

I think you are actually referring to Thomas, Thomas was the doubter

@@Kaydubbbb I am talking about Jesus’ brother. He doubted Jesus’ divinity until after was resurrected.

We consider the PoGP as filling in the gaps where plain and precious truths of the Bible have been lost. I believe he's referring to the 3rd witness we'll have if the Lost 10 tribes who were not lost to the Lord. He must've visited them as well and they had their prophets receiving revelation that they preserved for our day

@@Dunlappin I hope I live to see that come to pass.

He didn’t say just atheists. Of course judaism and Islam don’t believe in the resurrected Christ either. It’s just that atheist tend to argue with Christians on this matter.

Powerful poetry! Thanks for sharing your gift!

Exactly why we need to rely upon God and seek our understanding from Him in prayer, rather than from a sermon or a book or a website.

Which is why everything is going digital. Science DOES know how powerful physical reading is to us.

As your reward, you get to speak in Sacrament Meeting next week.

@@TheRealDonLayton I spoke last Sunday! 😅

@camerondariverrat407 ^_^ Great ! Did you notice you didn't answer to my questions !!? Don't be ashamed, it's alright You just need to repent ! We both know that pedophilia is a SIN even among the unbelievers pedophilia is BAD, back then and ALWAYS will be. At this point I have to warn you ! WARNING Pedophilia is a SIN and EVERY people who practice pedophilia, if they don't repent, will go to HELL ( Mark 9: 42-48) I invite you to repent of pedophilia and CONDAMN those who practice pedophilia or you will go to HELL. Just warn you Now that you know it is good, may Our Lord Jesus-Christ help you ! I have another question for y'all mormons : What do you think about the African race ? Brigham Young said : Shall I tell you THE LAW OF GOD in regard to THE AFRICAN RACE ? If the white man who BELONGS TO THE CHOSEN SEED mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the PENALTY, under THE LAW OF GOD, is DEATH ON THE SPOT. This will ALWAYS be so. Brigham Young (Journal of Discourses 10:110-111) Speech in March 8, 1863. Brigham Young said : You see some classes of the human family that are BLACK, uncouth, uncomely, DISAGREEABLE and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the INTELLIGENCE that is generaly bestowed upon mankind... Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a TERMINATION to that line of human beings. This was not to be, and the Lord put a MARK UPON HIM, which is the FLAT NOSE and BLACK SKIN. Brigham Young ( Journal of Discourses volume 7: p.290) Speech in 1863. Do you agree with Brigham Young here ? And Is it TRUTHLY from God ?

I've been to those places. As beautiful and sacred as I consider them to be, not one of them is proof of the resurrection of Christ, of his Divinity, or that He healed anyone. That is all a matter of faith. That said, we actually do have a very good idea of a number of Book of Mormon locations, including Nahom and Bountiful. We also have details of Jerusalem, the Red Sea and the Arabian Peninsula that would have been almost impossible for Joseph to know. But the big difference in the two is that in the Old World, you have continuous civilizations, language and written records of many places. You don't have that in the New World. Where is the record of the Mayans, the Olmecs, the Mound Builders or others? We know those people and their homes existed yet we know comparatively nothing about them. The fact that we don't have written records of the Adena, Hopewell, or indigenous peoples of Central/South America doesn't mean they weren't real. It just means we don't have their records. Or...maybe we do and you won't accept them. I'll also add that the evidence we do have of the Book of Mormon are not archeological. There are hundreds of internal evidences (such as chiasmus, colophons, cognate accusatives and internal consistency), the 11 official witnesses of the Book of Mormon who testified at great personal expense of its divine origins and more. But the greatest evidence is that of the Holy Ghost.

@@TheRealDonLayton Nothing is going to prove the resurrection. Even Thomas didn't believe until he touched the living Jesus. The BOM claims are not substantiated by any New World findings; not in language, geography, or archaeology. It's not all a matter of faith, it's ultimately a matter of faith.

Interesting, why is that? I’d love to hear your perspective.

I kinda go with you on this but I’d trump you and say that about every Christian denomination. I’m not LDS. I read the BoM, Pearl of Great Price, most or all of the Bible. I’ve tried the D and C, but I just can’t get going with it. I don’t really have a problem with the BoM, but I do wonder if they were chosen to separate because people were so wicked, why was Jesus born in Bethlehem? And after he goes through all of the work to save everyone, why would he destroy the wicked and sink new Jerusalem? (That one just makes no sense to me but there’s stuff in the Bible too that doesn’t make sense🤔 and I can give that a pass so eh 🤷🏼). But the people I’ve met are just like any other church people they’re great (and judge mental and spiteful) and kind and caring ( and two faced). No different then any other homo sapien on the planet. They know their scriptures and can point out everyone else’s flaws. It’s just in a church setting it’s judgement from the steeple, if it’s on the street female and recorded well that’s a Karen, if they are online hiding behind a name they are a troll. I do like Christianity, God, Religion. . . I just don’t get along with people. It’s quite mutual. We agree to deal with each other as little as possible. People are what draw me away from God. KZfaq is my only connection because I can barely look at the scriptures without thinking of the people. Don’t be so hard on KZfaq. 😋

There is a BIG difference between the BOM and the LDS. That's why they keep on having to change it. However, you won't find evidence for the BOM anywhere, except where it copies the bible. No hint of Jewish DNA in the American Natives, no evidence of Nephites or Lamanites. Also, there is a LOT of killing and murder in the BOM with little or no mercy, no true love. And by that I mean by the "good guys." Capt Moroni is an example of one of their heroes who is always pictured with lots of swords and spears. He rules as an authoritarian and forces people into his religion otherwise, he murders them. You can't tell him that you are a Mormon, because too late.

How then did we get it?

@@TheRealDonLayton Would you believe a guy on his way to Charzee with a monkey? Moroni and His Pet Monkey kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d7Gag62Hvb6WZZ8.html

Peter was told to preach to the gentiles, Jesus was talking about who He needed to visit which were the people in the Americas. He then told the same thing to them in America, that there was even other sheep for Him to visit.

Hi@@BazSupport! Thanks for taking the time to respond to my comment! 🙂 Based on the New Testament (NT), Peter, as you said, was told to preach to the Gentiles. So we are in agreement there! 🥳 (I would just like to point out, real quick, that Peter preached to the Gentiles in Israel. It was Paul who became the preacher to Gentiles outside of Israel.) With that little interjection out of the way I would like to ask you a couple of questions, if you don't mind: How does the fact that Peter (and Paul) were told to preach to the Gentiles, bring you to or build into your conclusion that Jesus was "talking about who He needed to visit which was people in the Americas"? Does it have anything to do with a belief on your part that there have never been Gentiles that have physically heard the voice of Jesus, because He only ministered to Jews, and so when He says there are others that He must bring, the "others" are Jews elsewhere that will literally hear His voice while the Gentiles will not but will hear Peter's (and Paul's) instead? My guess is you don't believe that as I am sure you're aware of all the times the NT tells of Jesus directly speaking to Gentiles (i.e. the Samaritan woman at the well, the Roman Centurian with the sick child, etc.) So then, perhaps it's that you believe that, when Jesus says, "I have other sheep, which are not of this fold..." He is using the word "fold" to speak specifically about the Jews He and His disciples are directly dealing with in Israel and the ones NOT of that fold are other Jews living in the Americas? If so, I would just like to ask for your help in processing how you came to believe that as the NT seems to define the "sheep" Jesus refers to, all throughout His ministry, as all who enter in through Christ. They are those rescued by the death of the good shepherd. Having considered my questions here, would you be willing to help me understand how you came to the conclusion that the "other sheep" Jesus spoke of meant people in the Americas, as described in the Book of Mormon (BoM)?

@@katiesonlinename​​⁠​⁠ Im Native American, coming from 2 tribes, one from Arizona and one from Nebraska, I love the Book of Mormon because it is talking about my ancestors, I love the idea that Christ came to visit my people, as well as the people in Jerusalem because we are all Gods children and I can testify that Christ did come to the Americans. There’s a cool book called “Walking the Americas” and it’s about different indigenous tribes and groups from the Americas, and they all have stories of a “man”(Christ) doing miracles and teaching them the gospel, which those teachings and those stories were passed down all the way until today, and in this book it goes from North American tribes, like Canada and United States, all the way down to Mexico, Peru, Brazil, and many other counties in South American and they all have similar stories that come from their lands and their history about Christ. Even the tribe I am apart of doesn’t like or agree to the LDS church or they don’t believe in the Book of Mormon, but there was a story that was passed down in the tribe that talks about the 2,000 stripling warriors and it matches perfectly to the Book of Mormon story. Christ has many sheep in the World and he would never leave any of his Sheep stranded or alone and that is why we have the Book of Mormon, to show that Christ is alive and He is the Savior of the WORLD! Not just the Jews and Gentiles, but everyone else that was on the earth at that time. It shows He loves all of us!

@@katiesonlinename because Christ says that is what He meant in the Book of Mormon, specifically mid 3rd Nephi. I know that may not convince you, but that is how I know what He meant

@@BazSupport Fair enough. Perhaps, with that being the case, then, you might be willing to answer this question as a follow-up: Why do you believe the Book of Mormon? (That is not a "statement" about what I think of the Book of Mormon thinly veiled as a question. It is a genuine question looking for a genuine answer. I genuinely wish to understand how you came to believe what the Book of Mormon says.) Thank you!

While I happen to strongly agree with your opinion, primarily from the text itself, I never get hung up on where it happened. Until it's revealed, I leave myself open to any possibility.

@@TheRealDonLayton Elder Nelson gave a talk at BYU on 22 Nov 1988 entitled "Thanks for the Covenant." "Have the promises of the Abrahamic covenant been fulfilled? Partially. Christ indeed has come from the seed of Abraham through the lineage of Judah. That line was entrusted with responsibility for preparation of the world for the first coming of the Lord. On the other hand, responsibility for preparation of leadership of the world for the second coming of the Lord was assigned to the lineage of Joseph, through Ephraim and Manasseh. This remarkable fact was foreknown centuries before the birth of the Lord. In the earliest pages of the Book of Mormon this revelation is recorded: Wherefore, our father hath not spoken of our seed alone, but also of all the house of Israel, pointing to the covenant which should be fulfilled in the latter days; which covenant the Lord made to our father Abraham, saying: In thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. [1 Nephi 15:18] Now, what of the promise of possession of certain lands? Territorial inheritance destined for the sons of Israel provided property in the Holy Land for Reuben, Simeon, Judah, Issachar, Zebulun, Gad, Asher, Dan, Naphtali, and Benjamin. But where was the inheritance for Joseph? From the Book of Mormon we learn that his inheritance was this land in the American hemisphere (see Ether 13:8)-identified as being choice above all other lands (see Ether 1:42, 10:28, 13:2; D&C 38:20). It was choice, but not necessarily from the standpoint of scenery or wealth. It was choice because it was chosen. America was to serve as the repository of sacred records written on metallic plates. It one day was to become the location for the restoration of the gospel. It was to host headquarters of the Lord’s restored church." We know where the land of promise is located!