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Cursed. Cursed, I say

I wanted to make a comment on girth, yet found this comment already perfect lol!

Lol 😮

Seems like they should have did something about it before they got murdered lol

I never really liked the Jedi order, they're so arrogant and always make excuses for their failures.

@@TrailtheprootThey’re also in denial.

lets face it if Palpatine wasn't a Sith, the Jedi would have STILL made Anakin one.

⁠@@thanqualthehighseerIf the sith did not exist then the force would not crate anakin

The jedi are just as bad as Darth Vader

if not worse then vader

The Jedi council are far too arrogant

They're concentration on politics is what started the public's trust issue with the jedi

"fear leads to anger"

@@protocolsavage8506 Change that to : our constant disrespect for you leads to anger

Or a control freak parent who favors their "golden child"

That's why I don't have in-laws

Yes it is funny how when faced with a similar problem to solve so many great minds come up with very similar solutions even when seperated by vast distances with no interaction and super slow communication. We call this parallee development. Also outside of ideology almost everyone enjoys a logical sound critical and diserning application of logic and sceince to solving problems. When people restrict the solutions you can come up with it is always about power and control!

And that's the right answer

Honestly I’m perplexed that the alternative was even an option for the Jedi, who supposedly didn’t trouble themselves with worldly cares. How a lightsaber looks should be far less important than how it works.

@@GGBlaster---That's an excellent point. They were concerned in the wrong places.

​@GGBlaster ... but "Jedi are peacekeepers" ... often times merely showing the laser-sword was enough to 'get what you wanted" ... you didn't even need to ignite the blade!

@@ChurchNietzscheit's a lightsaber not a lazer sword

Which is why saber colors were less diverse at the end. They were all of the same mind and understanding, so to speak.

​@@IngisenThe Jedi are what happens when Karens' get in charge and spend a few 1000yrs banning anything that they didnt personaly like.

Also in the old republic there was more fallen Jedi then ever before or after.

Yep

Well that's pretty much my feeling about Whole of Star Wars: the farther your stray from the Skywalker story the better it got, the old Republic being my favorite part

I don't hate the jedi, I just hate the high council lol.

I love Samuel L. Jackson, but I really hate Mace Windu!

Old grown ass man will always be like this. They had to, bc of fear, remember what Palpatine said, A person with power will be most afraid of losing it.

I couldn't agree more

This is exactly why I play light side Sith in Star Wars the old Republic

Nice lesson

You should feel afraid

Tell him to go find his hands and then come back with that statement

@@kingatlanofatlantis3075 Last time i checked, he didnt need hands XD

@@antcow1239 Versus Yoda he did. He said it himself.

I see... You deny your weapon its purpose!

well when you dedicate yourself to light, and want to protect life, youre view on using weapons can change drastically. essentially leading to the jedi (in this case) seeking answers from the force moreso then focusing on protection (wether it being themselves or others)

​@@Poldovicomy sword is a tool to bring.... PEACE. JUSTICE. FREEDOM AND SECURITY TO MY NEW EMPIRE

@@majinalastor5740 that I understand. But the idea that a weapon is anything other than a weapon is still stupid.

@@markcarpenter6020 pacifist mentality sadly. like for you or me yea, weapon is weapon.

It's yet another indictment against the Jedi Council of how arrogant they had grown in their position as the "keepers of peace". No Sith? No Problems. But build a lightsaber with the intention to wage battle? Oh, how scandalous

Man you an ooba geek

A weapon is simply a tool to do things, while the saber was used for evil the saber itself was created by a jedi and then eventually returned to a Jedi as well, unlike a proper sith Krystal which is bled with anger and hate and dark side energy which would be a more corrupt blade born out of malice although we've never seen a sith blade corrupt others for using it, as there are numerous instances of Jedi using red sabers and being just fine with it (if you know, you know)

We’ve actually sorta got that already with dooku! Christopher lee was a trained fencer and his curved hilt was to match and bring out his style :) to your point, it would be cool to see a genuine lightsaber rapier, thin blade, maybe even the full basket hilt? Could be sweet

There's actually a planet where local nobles use lightsabers like rapiers for dueling.

Losing an arm does tend to change people

More like fencing coil to bastard sword

Ahsoka's sabers share a lot of DNA with Anakin's and Obi-Wan's hilts. She has noticeably thinner hilts than both of her seniors-likely to accommodate her smaller hands. She's 14 at the turn of the Clone Wars and much smaller than Anakin. She also doesn't have ribs on any of her hilts. When I watch her fight against Grievous and other opponents, she seems to prioritize grace/agility (like Obi-Wan) instead of overpowering strikes (like Anakin). I suppose that lack of power is supplemented by her shoto saber (maybe more blades = more power?). The drastic difference between her Clone Wars hilts and Post-Republic hilts is more intriguing. They look more ceremonial than her Clone Wars hilts-although still plain. Maybe a sign of increased maturity as a servant of the Force. During Rebels, there were few bladed combatants that could match her skills with the blade. Dooku, Grievous, Ventress, Oppress, Maul, and maybe Vizsla all had a good leg up on her during the first half of the Clone Wars. During Rebels, the majority threat were Inquisitors who were largely below her skill. The majority inferior opponents meant less need for a functional design. The curved hilts that she uses in Rebels and onwards might signal further improvement of her saber skills. I know Dooku favored the curved hilt for its unpredictability and encouraged Ventress to use similar hilts (less curved though). So perhaps Ahsoka took what she learned from fighting those two and incorporated it into her design.

@@Evening-Sky It always seemed to me that she preferred not to use the lightsaber when there were other ways to deal with a threat, so her later hilt design makes sense. Plus, after breaking away from the order, she likely wasn't as likely to want to show the mark of a Jedi through use of the lightsaber.

@@Squidbush8563 Absolutely! I haven't noticed her reluctance to fight until now. It is painfully clear how her teenage years as a Commander in the Clone Wars left a bad taste in her mouth for combat (maybe even hate combat). She went without a lightsaber for years and seemed to do just fine which further reinforces the high likelihood that she disliked bearing the mark of a Jedi.

@@Evening-Sky i haven't actually finished clone wars myself yet, so i have no firsthand knowledge, but from what i understand she had to fight a war with a group of soldiers, who eventually were probably something akin to friends or even family, and then at the end they were all forced to turn against her. I think it'd be perfectly reasonable to disdain violence after that.

@@Kataclysm113 Agreed. It is more than reasonable to dislike violence after being a soldier in a 4-year war. Ahsoka was pretty mature at digesting the emotion losses (even great ones) from a young age, but I don't think her maturity dulled the sense of "oh this war is terribly wrong".

Which just goes to show, you should always carry a spare. But you do bring up a very valid point.

@@gunguntrio1247 i mean you wouldn’t use another person’s glasses because it wasn’t made for you right? That said, I wonder how much better (if even slightly) Anakin would have done against Dooku if he still had his lightsaber. Maybe enough to keep his hand?

@@DSdemon767Honestly, he probably would have went in there even cockier if you can imagine that. He was naturally talented at things and because of that, he didn't put in as much effort in studying and training. This defeat helped humble him and to start taking some things more serious and with that came the construction of said lightsaber. Even more interesting when you consider the Dooku duel in episode 3 how in the beginning both he and Obi-Wan kept "stumbling" over each other to give Dooku a false sense of superiority and lull him into making mistakes. Anakin really grew in that time which I'm fully aware that I went completely off base with this comment but here we are. Anakin needed his defeat by Dooku to force him to grow. And yet, they still never learned to carry a spare saber on them afterwards.

@@gunguntrio1247 My guess they only have one lightsaber at a time to push the idea that they have to take really good care of it. And then the Clone Wars happened. imagine the coversation: Obi Wan: This weapon is your life Anakin: Can I make a spare? Obi Wan: Do you have a spare life?

Poor craftsman always blames his tools.

I blame Ki Adi Mundi

They are both the same person.

@@sabrewolf4129 Yes, but it resembled the lightsaber of a jedi. Of his pre darkside fall. I always assumed he would want it to look different so as not to remind him.

@@gunguntrio1247 You're reading to much into it. It's a movie and the prop makers made it that way.

@@sabrewolf4129 Yes it is. While your ability to point out the obvious is astute, you have forgotten one thing. People will obviously take notice of the worlds that interest them and think and wonder about it. That is who we are.

@@gunguntrio1247 Thank you for acknowledging I am smarter than Star Wars fans🤣

No way bro. They wore robes on purpose. Gotta let the force flow freely. 😂

And like yoda said fear is a path to the dark side Skywalker

so did you

Good thing you brought peace, freedom, justice and security to your new empire!

And when you destroyed the Jedi council, did you find that peace of mind you were looking for?

@@NavistonCromwell nah but it felt good

We all have a dark side that tends towards agression and violence but we do not all act on it as our first or dominate sense of self. If ones ability to hate is not as great as ones ability to love than that person is either a liar of the highest order and lying to themselves as well as the world at large, they are a feckless emfeniite man, or they are ignorant on a grand level. That does not mean we go around bashing each other's heads in at a drop of a dime. We are human after all and not at all a slave to our most primal urges we have intellect that can rule over any inborn nature or instincts. Some do this better than others. Males tend tohave stronger sex drive than women and it shows but most men do not go around wraping women some do most do not. Outside of some terrible trama seldom does a person base personality change with age. How they express their thoughts, needs, dreams adn desires might change but not their most basic sense of self. As you grow in experince and age some of use are constantly growing and changing while some of us stop at some point. Most people I knew that where jerks and or not good people in high school are still who they where then but older! Anakin was not fated to become Lord Varder he made a choice at a very critical point we know when he made that choice. He refused to repent and go back and instead doubled down. He chose to play the victim card long after he had the power and athority to flip the script. I understand he is no a real person and was written that way but if you look closely he had many oppertunities to walk away! Since the story was writen by men who wanted to tell a story it is all very accedemic and hypothetical since we know how the story ends!

@@buckaroobonsi555 I think you grossly misinterpreted what I said, I wasn't saying Anakin intended to go around killing people with his lightsabers or what Vader would use his for, but he did construct both his sabers with the mindset that "He needed a strong weapon to protect those he cared about with." It's not a bad line of thinking but it's not within the Jedi code for the fact that a Jedis' lightsaber is a tool, not a weapon this is what I meant by seeing Vader in Anakin he solely made a weapon.

Ikr. Less flickering, and a clearer picture

Not unlike being skilled in both the use of a weapon and its maintenance and upkeep. Not exactly, but similar enough.

They probably were offended it looked like yodas.

True. 😄

Qui-Gon basked in pissing them off. The only time I'm aware Obi-Wan did was to honor Qui-Gon's last wish.

Yoda still had pretty thick hands/talons tho

Yeah, he was a different race so that might play a part in it.

Palpatine exploited Anakin's desire to be treated humanely to use him as a pawn to destroy the Jedi and rule the galaxy. Even when Palpatine did succeed, he probably treated Anakin(as Darth Vader) as a slave as well.

Windu wasn't the only one that listened to him, Mace was an asshole, Qui Gon was the one who cared about Anakin.