It’s so insanely backwards that gold and diamond gear is all fully renewable in Minecraft, but sand is finite.

Maybe the real diamonds were the friends we made along the way

I still get excited finding diamonds. yeah, they aren't as good as they used to be, but they still have value, and the contrast when used with a netherite armor and a trim is so nice in my opinion

"which you can get in the first 3 seconds of your world" meanwhile i'm over here in java with looting 3 having killed so many trident drowned and still not gotten one

As fun of an update as village and pillage was, it has a number of terrible legacies. Diamond equipment should’ve never been something you could trade for. At the very best, you should be able to pay a villager to repair a preexisting piece of diamond equipment for a high emerald price. Certainly not be able to cheaply and repeatedly buy diamond gear, much less preenchanted diamond gear. This is just something that has to be completely removed in order to make diamonds regain their value. Librarian trading for enchantments, at least as currently implemented, also significant diminished the enchanting table. The villager trading rebalance is making some head way in fixing it by making librarian trades biome specific, but that experiment still needs a lot of work. Trading for mending is a problem, but it would not be as big of a problem as it is now if it were not for the anvils too expensive limit. That limit is perhaps one of Minecraft’s worst features, and makes it so that you have to rely on mending to keep the god pickaxe you painstakingly enchanted alive so you don’t have to recraft it every so often to all the time if you mine a lot. The enchanting table should not be the worst block for enchanting. It’s literally its only function and is outclassed by both villagers and the anvil. A lot of things need to change. Here’s what I would do. Significantly rebalance villager trading, they are already working on this in the experiment but that still needs a lot of work. Remove the “too expensive” cap on the anvil. Also make it so enchantments can no longer be combined on the anvil. The anvil is now only used for infinitely repairing tools with resources and naming items. Also, using the anvil no longer costs xp and the anvil no longer breaks. In addition to all of this, I would make it so mending is only renewable through trading with a civilization that exists in the end, similar to how soul speed is only renewable through piglin trades. Though mending could also be found in difficult structures throughout the world, in particular the ancient city. The enchantment table will now be able to combine enchantments at the cost of xp and lapis, in addition to offering enchantments in an RNG dependent manner for experience and lapis like it does now. Another major change I would make is that each enchanting table in the world will randomly offer the player a different enchantment, and all the worlds enchantment tables will be reset after one is used. This will reward the player for crafting multiple enchantment tables as they will now be more likely to find enchantments they are looking for. We may also reward the player for crafting multiple enchantment tables by offering unique bonuses if the player places them all together in a unique pattern. This could be implemented by having the enchanting table have a connecting texture. The enchanting levels could also use a revisit but I don’t have an idea for that right now. Also, there are currently too many structures in the game that have diamonds and especially diamond gear in the loot table. That has to be significantly cut back on and diamonds should be reserved for the most challenging of dungeons. This ties into another one of Minecraft’s major problems, which is not having enough loot items for structures that are both balanced and rewarding.

Whats also a theory, is that the worls doesnt change, YOU change. Practically all main features of gaining diamond stuff we’re always in the game. But when you were little you didnt have access to those so diamond were so rare for you and finding them was so cool. “But gary even when i have been playing minecraft when i was a bit more expierenced it was still cool for me!1!1!” Well, the more you play the game, the more risks you will take knowing you mastered certain skill. So if you are new/decently advanced you wouldnt go to end city’s use villagers and mine in giant caves, but the more you learn, the easier they get. Thanks for listening to my mini-solo podcast.

Im only here to prevent my house to catch fire

but netherite upgrade kinda needs diamonds, unless you want to travel a very long way to find the smiting templates and want to make all your armor look weird you'll probably clone some templates

I am shocked the proposed villager trading overhaul wasn't mentioned at all in this video, as it would increase the value of diamonds - and hone in specific desired enchantments as well.

I think the problem is the use for diamonds isn’t there. The game is easy enough to skate through with just iron; so unless you like the upgrade grind; diamonds already hold little to no value. Maybe if they overhauled the village system to allow us to make rooms and accommodations so villagers would move in; then it would feel less like we’re stealing villagers. Same thing with building and transportation; there’s very little reason to do those things. Minecraft is a sandbox but eventually we get tired of the limitations of sand. If Toycat reads this; I urge you to look at why people get mods, especially create. It allows us to specialize in the things we enjoy. Create mods give me the means and inspiration to build more. Mods that add additional challenge and purpose are fun. Why do I make a large farm if hunger isn’t a concern. Why build walls if there’s no opposition. Why build a story when most things are easily acquired. There’s even create mods that are working on adding airships, boats, and landships to the game. It makes the game world alive when your friend arrives in a vehicle carrying food for you and your villagers because you have to prepare for a siege. Or when your friend found a spot for a foundry and is producing high quality equipment; meanwhile you’re investing in magic, producing some of the best enchantments. And now you have a reason to establish a trade route.

Realistically, you need 7 diamonds for every piece of armor or tool decorated with trim or upgraded to netherite. So even if you get all your armor and tools from villagers, you'll need somewhere between 56 and 84 diamonds every time you need to make a new set of kit. Granted, unless you really suck at the game, that won't be too often.

Lol no. Some of us still make our first set of diamond armor and tools the legit way before ever touching the trades or the loot chests so they shouldn't change the increase of diamond spawns. Just add more recipes that take diamond.... Like the trims

0:24 Netherite Upgrade? You literally need diamond armor to make netherite, and diamonds to duplicate the template.

Bro really just said netherite upgrade doesnt need any diamonds💀

I’m really loving the quality of the latest videos. These rooms you walk through are so well done! Way to go Toycat and crew

@2:20 ive made dozens of enchanting tables...theyre of one my favorite decorative blocks for builds. Well, enchanting rooms are one my favorites decorations. Any medium to large build i do has at least one enchanting room. Even one or two of my smaller builds does.

I think more people use villagers for diamond* armour and tools than actual diamonds for crafting. *Edit: misspelled diamond lol

How is diamond ore a better flex than a diamond block?? I completely disagree, it looks way less cool and it represents having way less diamonds than a full block of it.

Netherite upgrade does require diamonds now. Assuming you only have 1 or 2 templates, you need 7 diamons for each additional upgrade

Knockback resistance may not be the most OP thing but having more protection against being knocked off somewhere really high or into a pool of lava is nice. Most cases you are prepared for that but having that added level of resistance is nice. Secondly if I recall villager rebalancing is requiring you to have diamonds to trade for the equipment depending on the equipment.

The problem is that Village and Pillage and Caves & Cliffs ruined diamonds V&P: Enabled villagers to give enchanted diamond armor with not much cost (Seriously who thought this was a good idea?) C&C: Made diamonds extremely easy to find (I found 33 ores in my hardcore world in a single cave without any mining...) Hopefully they eventually make them rare and give them more unique functions that aren't purely for vanity

Diamonds seem to have a higher spawn rate now with the introduction of deepslate blocks, the deep dark and ancient citys, and if youre a boss you can have villagers with their respective jobs to get enchanted diamond armor and tools through villager trading, so mining for diamonds isnt really necessary anymore

From what you have said in the video about diamonds I feel the same is kinda true for Enchanted golden apples After the Deep dark update i have seen multiple people braging about founding 2-3 Apples in 1 Acient City which is kind of too much and could make it loose its value over time like diamonds.

Iron has got to be better than diamonds it is in the most crafting recipes and you need it to mine diamonds.

We were kids back then , things have changed now we have machured, well that my opion at least

I do have a zobo xp farm and sell the rotten flesh to clerics for emeralds

I believe instant damage arrows from a cross bow bypass the totem of undying

Diamonds are still valuable and are more valuable since 1.20, because you can now duplicate the Netherite smithing templates & the armour trims. Even if after you get netherite tools & armour you can still make Juke Boxes, Enchantment Table, Firework star, & Diamond Blocks (those are handy for bullying a pyramid for beacons)

The heart of the sea was a bad example, like, you won't need more than two beacons at a time...

See your point, but I would argue that for less experienced users its still hard to get enough diamond. For more experienced users there are new items to collect thats more difficult to get. I like how there is something for everyone.

I have not used netherite due to the fact that I play with one small island and I restrict myself from using it and slow my progress substantially for my own entertainment

I've had a survival world going since Jan 20 and haven't touched diamonds since Jan 30

All precious materials cease to be precious when they are too abundant. And their value disappears almost entirely when they are renewable. And diamond gear is all fully renewable, plus diamond ore is way too abundant to begin with. In a world that made sense, diamond would be both rare and a totally finite resource.

I was watching your older videos and clicked on this one thinking it was also old until you mentioned mace at the start 🗿

As someone who hasn't beat the game yet, I'm always excited for diamonds!

In my server I made deepslate diamond ore the same texture as deepslate and it makes diamonds way more awesome and rare

Honestly, with copper ore now out in the world, iron has become more uncommon and valuable. Due to copper taking some of the ore space iron once did.

I don't even make diamond armor, I only get diamonds for the enchantment table. Everything else I have is iron, and I just enchant them. At least in survival (which I ALWAYS play on) i'm sure for PVP you'd get diamonds to upgrader to netherite...but in terms of survival, not needed imo.

After 1.20.2 and even trial chambers diamonds are a total joke to get. You can get diamond blocks in common trial chamber loot, don't even need to open vaults.

Outro joke was smart AND funny, 9/10! ☺️ 5:20- “Much more powerful by a HUGE spectrum…” you mean margin? Funny you would use a word I can only think of typically being used in one context (outside physics class)… 🤔

"You literally don't need any diamond gear anymore because you could to go straight for netherite" What the hell are you talking about?! Without diamond gear the only thing netherite is good for are tunnel bores! Nothing more! To top it off, you need ACTUAL diamonds to duplicate netherite templates - you either loot bastions by the dozen to get a full set, or run around with your gear exposed to incineration in lava and knockback No diamonds = no netherite gear Sounds far worse than no enchanted golden apples (totems completely overshadow them), hearts of the sea (water-only stationary utility) or tridents (far worse weapon enchantments included than sword+bow; only good for riptide or saving ammo)

Finding Diamonds in Terraria feels more exciting these days

I actually don’t know where, off hand, to go to trade for diamond armor.

mace is the best pvp weapon with wind burst 3 hit a player twice or use wind charge + mace + density 5 1 shot full netherite prot 4

with the new armor trim thingy diamonds is kinda useful again, but.. the crafting recepie do not make any sense - you just smack a bunch of gems in the shape of the cauldron with a old template and material inside to get two of them. how does it work? do i grind the material with the diamonds to carve the template? do i magically press it together like a diamond block, so it is make indentations in the material in the process? Mojang are doing nice job on a game, but particularly those "who cares?" moments are bothering me deeply.

I’m forgetting but doesn’t netherite update require diamonds now when u make extra of the upgrade thing? Not a trim but looks like a trim I’m very sick and tired, lol.

10:57 hey!! he called out the cod folks! welcome to the club 😂

Am I the only person who’s really confused about how at 0:58 it highlights Enchanting Table, Netherite Uprgrade, and Firework rocket, and it says “not in Java edition beta” are these items not crafted with diamonds in the beta?

2:41 i didn’t even know they existed until today

Do I want to go mine some diamond or waste a week blowing holes through the Nether? At least I have enough gold and gunpowder (or an inventory full of beds) for the job.

How does netherite gear not require diamonds when it takes 7 to make a netherite template?

I thought power creep only exist in competitive games like MOBAs. Welp, that's the expense of keeping the players engaged (and getting profit in return).

They are ever more valuable, if you want to do armor trim and making copies of templates

Inflation is even hitting Minecraft 😔

I disagree with the enchanted golden apple. Their true value to me is purely in their rarity and for the all foods challenge. Once I found my second one, which I never look for, I just play the normal game and inevitably come across them, any next one is just not exciting at all. I have one in my Wall of Frame and one that I ate for the challenge. Any others I keep, sure, but they do not excite me. I get your point that diamonds have become devaluated, but I disagree that enchanted golden apples are still more exciting than diamonds, they are not to me. I recently entered an SMP where keep inventory is off (I always play with it on) and I set my mind to getting at least four fully enchanted extra sets of armour and tools. So I need a lot of diamonds. Which is not at all hard nowadays with the new diamond probabilities.

Imagine if you needed a mace for netherite since there’s a hammer on the smithing table.

I just finished a less than 2 hour spelunking session with fortune 3 and got 138 diamonds.

I give diamonds more use on my private server by making it so you can craft a God Apple with 40 diamonds and a golden apple, also god apples can be traded in for a permanent effect up to level 3 (eg permanent health boost level 3)

Um actually, armor trims make way more recipes with diamonds

You gotta guess tomcat the emerald blocks kind have some more decoration use

Have desert villagers trade sand instead of dirt Easy.

I honestly just leave the diamonds. I hate mining them cause i feel theyre so rare yet renewable

But the nethrite upgrade is duplicated with diamonds 💎

You made a good point. Diamond is in need of a new use, one distinct and unique to it, rather than being a stepping stone to something better.

Back in my day Gold was very useful for crafting Enchanted Golden Apples. Not random chests, at least that is how it is now

Well most people use cheat software to find diamonds and most know where to look. When people were they didnt have access to all what you have now

Toycat really pushing for video time. Lmao

nice bunker.

They should remove diamond gear from villager trades imo

Diamonds shouldn’t be frequently seen in small clumps it should be infrequently seen in big clumps

For some reason, finding an egg makes me more excited than finding a diamond...🥚

The amortrims really help tho

I wish mojang added the cooper golem

I love conduits. I mine a lot in the water.

I love your content!

I thought diamonds weren't valuable because they got replaced by raymonds, where my fellow chatters at to back me up?

diamond inflation 💀

the cave update kinda pushed diamonds down

You still need them for enchanting tables, jukeboxes, and template duplication.

I found 3 notch apples in my survival world within 2,000 blocks of each other

How does this have 14 like when it only has 14 views I'll still watch this anyway.

because netherite is the new top dog and it is very hard to get in comparison

I feel like it would feel much better if Netherite was instead called something like "Nether Plate" - imagine the "Nether Plated Chestplate" this way it feels as if Netherite just made your Diamond Armor a little better.

That's what they called inflation

you trynna make fun of me? I spent today around an hour in caves and strip mining, I found 2 diamonds. 😭🙏

it for worse when they changed mining, now they're rare and invaluable

I will never understand the minecraft comunity and the desire to make everything harder to get :/ I'm personally never in a spot where i can say that i have too many diamonds

I have to respectfully disagree with you. I don't think diamonds were ever that valuable. Full iron is plenty for fighting mobs, you can make obsidian and by extension a nether portal with buckets, and every ore can be mined with iron picks. Iron has far more value and practical uses than diamond ever did. Also, the go to weapon for every boss is made from some sticks and string. I would have to say that the only real value that diamond gear has ever had was pvp. Unless you count showing off to friends, that's fair.

It has gotten to the point that DocM77 has decided to use diamond ore blocks as building blocks rath to place his redstone on rather than use the actual diamonds.

its because we have been playing the game for a long time

I think a way to balance netherite and diamonds is to make netherite weapons to have a longer cooldown and they could add enchantments to the game that decrease tool cooldown

I kinda just think Netherite has replaced diamonds nowdays but I don't think it's nessiciarly a bad thing. Netherite armour is pretty cool after all

Fortune

Me personally, I prefer zenytes and onyx.

Nice dimond

Diamonds are forever

I mean yeah they’re not but netherite is the new rare thing. A netherite Ingot is worth like 2 diamond blocks tbh

Netherite

This is a problem

But I like diamonds