So is Horikita

Another clue is at Season 3 Episode 13 the Special Ending Song Lyrics. If you read the lyrics you know the smile isn't geniune unlike Season 3 Episode 12 where Season 1 Opening Song references Horikita's Growth. Even ZAQ(Singer of COTE Openings) said this in her Twitter.

I hope you analyze the Special Ending Lyrics and Season 1 opening song lyrics(Butterfly and flower references Ayanokoji and Horikita thanks.

100% correctly explained. Since I am also 100% ayanakoji all my live in school and now with 30 in life, with all mind games and test caluclating questions right and creating secnarios which i determine so i have it more easy because i am not able to master them in the terms of others or evironment I can approve you are right. I also cant feel love or imagine it so I also hope for some boo or tool or someone whom i can learn from and adapt and going underdog in society. Problem is the women world find me too ugly even i am high normal average so a 6+ and so i am trapped. I cant socialy evolve and also not my soul inside me and my emotions when i have no practice and manual to learn. This makes me more incomplete and this drags me down in daily busy human life because i cant cope with the normal society life by not having once a real simulation of relationship or sex date or falling in love or someone falling in love with me and even just dating experience. I am stuck and cant evolve.

@@zarosderer4447 Fake because I am obviously the only person who is just like Ayanokoji fr fr.

@@PyroManiac753 But are you 100% practically? I calculated everyday in school and daily life and foresee everything or made it how i wanted to be. Everything was as i said. Even until now i can foresee world incidents before they happen

@@zarosderer4447 I predicted you would say that.

@@PyroManiac753LMFAOO I LOVE THIS REPLY

Yep.. ill do a vid on the anime soon

Acting as if the LN isn't mid lol

@@Stzzfro That's a crazy statement 😮

@@preemoart Mid≠bad. It just isn't anything special and what makes me kinda dislike it is the philosophy

@@Stzzfro I get you, I'd personally say Y2 of COTE is mid.

Cook

Bro is sanji with all this cooking🗿

God is the kitchen and the devil is the spices

its called having a personality disorder if based on trauma its a sociopathic disorder if its based on genetics its psychopathic peronality disorders they dont feel affection for other people thats why they use them as tools. real life people have these disorders but are good at hiding it because they know they different

when and where did he smile in front of horikita?

😭

💀

"Sit proud,you're disabled"

"stand proud, you're smart."

@@Reseptics she can't stand.

@@darkcodmobile5466 💀

Yip kei not close to him in with his abilities but horikita i could see it will be happening

You can say..... Cause she is the only one who has ever made him feel any sort of emotion which amazed him and in volume 11 of year 2 he called her and said to speak face to face and said he wants a meaningless conversation without any sort of exams related topics in it and only wants to talk about both of there own daily life so yeah as I mentioned you can say that they can be together

Yes. Suzune and Ayanokoji ❤

​@@ken69151 being in love don't have anything to do with abilities my guy ,give powerscaling rest for a day

appreciate u near (the goat)

Keikaku Dori

Let's go!!

Thanks man fr

has to be Hiyori.......has to be Hiyori....if not Hiyori then Koji should give her to me

@@partyvietnamcommunist4829😭🙏 Hiyori solo 😎

@@partyvietnamcommunist4829 😭 Hiyori solo 🗿🧊

@@partyvietnamcommunist4829Hiyori😂??? That’s a hot take

Poor girl deserves better after her development in y1v7

Thanks bro, ill look into that or something similar atleast

Yeah hope she gets more screentime tho plus every anime I seen the first girl usually gets the mc if it's love related

@@Random33390 not always the case but its mostky true

​@@Random33390nah it mostly happens in Romcoms not animd

@@Johnathanisfat1 nah it happens mostly in anime to

@@Random33390for every anime I seen the first girl get rejected

Love is not about to be perfect or equal. It’s a feeling that destroy your thinking and push you to protect the opposite person.

Bro has a point but still there relationship hasn't got very on a high level

if you think like this then youre probably going to stay single for the rest of your life

Arisu nkows Ayano very well because she has observed him regularly "like a friend' since childhood.

Nop

I believe they will go to college, ihhh it will take years and years to finish this LN.... I believe that suzune, koenji and manabu are hiding something. memorize what I write.

> Under the threat of Chabishira, even if he didn't believe it, he didn't go all out to produce results. He did just enough to pull Class D back into being competitive and show he was trying. Much of his meddling in the first two volumes was him simply trying to help (mainly bailing Sudo out), and the meddling all aligns with his expressed desire not to stand out. The final chapter of Y1V2 points that he had this contradiction even before Chabashira's threat. Chabashira's final dialogue to Horikita points out this contradiction quite clearly with how getting 50 on the entrance exam contradicts his philosophy of not standing out. Same with the final lines of Y1V2 in Kiyo's monologue where he tries to tell himself that he must not stand out before telling the reader how defective he is. Same with the Y1V11.5 monologue in the ending of the Horikita siblings departure chapter where he has a similar monologue on how he should have been seeking a peaceful life. I think it should be quite apparent from the text that both desires are genuine but that his "outward appearing self" aka the peaceful times seeking self does not correspond to his more subconscious and deeper "White Room" self that can take actions that stand out. This contradiction between not wanting to stand out but also being conspicuous was highlighted also in Horikita dialogues in Y1V2 and Y2V10. So I think there could be rational reason for outing himself to Ryueen in that his insatiable White Room curiosity to learn more overrode his "outward appearing self" desire to stay inconspicuous through his experiments on both Ryueen and Kei.

@@severus-commodus The answer to getting all 50s on his test is literally answered in y1v5- Kiyotaka doesn't know what "normal" is. He purposely tried to get a "normal" grip strength in order to not stand out, but using Sudo as a gauge ended up outing him as having above average strength because Sudo is dumb and also doesn't know what "normal" would be. Same with the 50s. Kiyo doesn't have a perception of what "normal" is, so he purposely did what felt right to not stand out. Much of this contradiction is answered in y1v4.5 with the fortune teller. He's purposely putting on the character of what he thinks is a normal person in front of others rather than being real. This was already addressed in one of Avent's original videos- Kiyo doesn't like his White Room self. He wants to defy his dad. He laments in y1v7.5 how his white room self might always be a part of him. That was one of the early themes of KiyoKei- they weren't hiding their real darkness from each other. That's what made it an engaging relationship. He's purposely trying hide his white room self and not engage it. What part of his meddling in y1v1-2 is his White Room self? Rather, much of his meddling is actually in line with the fact that underneath an incredibly messed up person is actually a kind person, albeit not entirely philanthropic, but a kind person nonetheless. This aligns with what we see in Volume 0 as well. We learn throughout year one that Kiyotaka likes to teach (even if he doesn't realize it himself). This isn't "White Room" self. This is the opposite. Kiyotaka says it himself in y2v3- the difference between him and his dad is that he reaches his hand out to help others. His White Room self only engages when Chabashira tries to blackmail him. Even if the chances were high that it was bunk, Kiyo still chose to respect it because he doesn't like to act without 110% certainty and he doesn't want to go back to the white room. Now he's in his "Survive at all costs" mode and it's clashing with his initial desire not to stand out. It's clear throughout the early volumes of year one, in spite of Chabashira making him try, Kiyo IS taking precaution not to stand out as much as possible. His actions aren't contradictory towards his desire not to stand out. In fact, that's what he monologues about in y1v7 after discovering Chab's blackmail is 100% bunk- this is his last opportunity go back to a quiet life like he initially stated was his desire. If he doesn't take it now, he'll get dragged out into the spotlight by all the class leaders. In fact, he even initially turns down Manabu's initial call for help, which supports the idea he DID want to not stand out.

@@jmanstar24 > The answer to getting all 50s on his test is literally answered in y1v5- Kiyotaka doesn't know what "normal" is. He purposely tried to get a "normal" grip strength in order to not stand out, but using Sudo as a gauge ended up outing him as having above average strength because Sudo is dumb and also doesn't know what "normal" would be. Same with the 50s. Kiyo doesn't have a perception of what "normal" is, so he purposely did what felt right to not stand out. I think these two are two separate things. The whole point of the 50 mark things was not getting 50 in just one subject but exactly 50 in every subject. This is different from not knowing what is normal on only a single data point like grip strength in Sudou's case. And Kiyo knew statistics from the White Room so he knew that what he was doing would stand out and Chabashira's dialogue in Y1V2 also points that out. If he truly did not want to stand out, he would not have gotten an exact 50 but chosen a more natural range of numbers. So we have narrative evidence suggesting this act was intentionally conspicuous and basic common sense from statistics suggesting that it is conspicuous. I think that with this evidence it is very difficult to say that Kiyo did not do intentionally conspicuous actions when Kinu clearly spells this out that this act is conspicuous and does not appear to be a plot hole missed by Kinu based on his intended narrative evidence. And therefore, we can conclude that the Y1V2 evidence demonstrates this contradiction was present in Kiyo from the very start. And furthermore, his White Room self is not just to survive at all costs but to know more and more deeply to satisfy his curiosity as V0 itself points out and his monologues about his curiosity through out various monologues suggests.

The answer is his curiosity.

@@severus-commodus WHAT DID YOU JUST SAY!?!

yeah probably

@@AventSirhonestly with how things are going now i see no way of horikita catching feelings😭Only if she starts to miss koji when he switches classes and wants to be near him

Honestly would doubt this would happen now due to the fact that koji will be changing classes and will be antagonizing suzune in year 3.

Where the LN is heading it looks like kiyo might fall for horikita and she might not, until the final volume then revealed her feelings towards him.

@@blessing21 Not really at the same time in my opinion lol

I tend to Horikata more than Arisu. But i would LOVE it if he realize he has romantic feeling for Kei 🥲

😂❤

I agree with i ship them

when he and kei had an argument abt koji going on a date with ichinose he didnt feel any bit of sadness from being away from kei

Not really you should know the main reason why author decided to put that like first of all Horikita did not even do anything to make him smile at all, the only reason he smiled was because he was having a normal talk with somebody other then always planning and manipulating every single time

ayanokoji has always wanted a normal life, a relax life, so horikita will never be the end girl, she will forever be toxic and cringe

@@elaina391 not really cringe TOXIC uhhh i do have to agree with that though😅😅😅

@@martinhoDKBWell the thing is Ayanokouji wouldnnt normally smile under any circumstances 😂. Did you even read Volume 10 he literally specifically said “I’ve never recalled unconsciously smiling, this practice is not something I have carried out with a friend like Kosuke or even Kei, so why Horikita?”

@jackthezodiac6136 yeah i know all that still it really not means anything look at again he also talked with Horikita in a normal genuine way in recent volume too and no smile now and his monologues no matter if they are genuine or bad you should never trust them cause Ayanokoji is not an honest person to himself in many ways

I'm fine with Horikita being the second choice. Ichinose, Kushida, Chabashira and Ichika can be side pieces.

@@mfr2734 the teacher is so hot i have full screenshot file from her tits since season 1 anime

y2 v11, koji didn't even want to sit next to kei on the bus, so much so that he said "why don't you sit with your friends" people wake up the guy doesn't like her, what a bullshit. haha ha

@@Ayakita5504 and in the same volume he said him and Kei have been spending time together as a couple even going to school together, Kei is kinda now crashing at his dorm time to time. Again we can take one example each it won’t show who’s right or wrong. And him asking her if she wouldn’t mind sitting of her friends don’t mean he don’t like her lmaooo

​@@oliverferman4154I can understand why he would ask her that. People like their space and she keeps getting in it cause she's scared. But there is only so much a person can take. You can tell he is getting really tired of it.

Kei bbith he rejected youske the most kind person in class

Yessir

If you're going by who deserves him he ends up alone by the end of the series.

Makes sense tbh ayanokoji x horikita is the best ship

​@@DsNUTs939 Arisu better tbh

@@JustJacy_ nah

​@@JustJacy_ I agree. Especially because Arisu loves him despite knowing what he is.

i didnt get it what is not hardly a secret. What did i missed what you all saw that he will not love her in the future?

@@zarosderer4447 he won’t fall in love with Kei and it wouldn’t ordinarily make sense for him to do that anyways? And he literally planned to break up with her before April

@@zarosderer4447because he loves horikita😂

@@jackthezodiac6136 well then it was just a project for him, a experiment to learn on by doing. But I think in the end, i mean the real end when the author writes one, it should be a good ending where ayanokoji completes his mission to study humans and real life and enjoy to have mastered it theoretically and than starts real life with kei again. First love is always last love. The whole point is for him to learn everything about humans and to become on. So maybe in the end he will have a normal life. Yes inside still not beeing normal, but adapting and coping and trying to master it everyday to survive in real life society under humans and relationships

@@zarosderer4447 I never said Kiyotaka is likely to end up with Horikita and like you said it’s likely he will end up single but yeah Kiyotaka acknowledges himself that he used Kei to try and feel emotions but he failed to do so.

Yes somebody get it😭🙏.

big tits always good arguments especially double D or E

I oughta slap u for this 😭

I do not see that happening cause first of all Horikita did not even do anything to make him smile and only reason he smiled was because for the first time he talked to someone genuinenly rather then manipulating and planning every single time that's the only reason

@@martinhoDKB You didn't understand very well Horikita made Kiyotaka smile because of something funny in their interaction. Here I do remember this moment : Horikita: stop copying me Kiyotaka : stop copying me In that part they say the same word which Kiyotaka finds funny And without warning they both smile at the same time Which even kiyotaka said"I don't know why I acted that way with Horikita" I mean by saying that he even thinks that Horikita made him smile He didn't understand that reason that's why he said "not in front of Kei or a friend." I mean, it means that it wasn't in front of Kei or a friend He smiled in front of Horikita and those emotions that he doesn't understand That's why he's starting to know how hard it is to smile or be normal, but with Horikita it's easy because Horikita can make him have emotions and things he never felt And he doesn't fully understand

@MelaniEsqurial joking yes it was and like i said it was genuine and fun talk with somebody but like i said Horikita hardly did anything honestly there

@@MelaniEsqurial Could argue that this could be their last time (For the longest time) being genuine and nice to eachother. Year 3 will have koji antagonizing suzune, thus concluding their usual dynamics temporarily ngl..

@@martinhoDKBdo you stil not understand anything my guy the whole point is that Kiyotaka wouldn’t ordinarily smile with anyone no matter what they do. 😂

That's because u dont see the obvious foreshadowings The gojo and sukuna one was obvious that sukuna will win bcuz he is the villian and gojo a supporting character Those are some 70 iq no brain niggas + There is no reason for ayanokoji to stay with kei It seems that it's more or less obvious

W!!

Yo!

they don't even have chemistry nor they had any romantic interaction or smth lmfao koji and horikita is the most toxic ship this fandom can ever make yall are similar to mha fandom

@@dappez Horikita fans desperate lol. They talk all negatives about kiyokei but they're desperate to let their ship sail. Who was the first person he felt comfortable with, who was the first person to made him realize that they were both similar, who wished her HB for the first time in his life, who become the closest person to him and priortize that he must protect her, who did he propose for the first time, who and how did he kissed her, who made first time home cooked meal for her, how did they did the deed and yet you didn't see as someone who can change the mc?? the author is cooking now as he made most of the time kei dormant in y2, without cooking his dish will be raw, would you like to eat raw dish?. Anything would've been possible, I won't disagree but that is sealed by KKei's short story in vol 4.5 which s1 didn't cover ( as it was put before vol 3 and that too in wrong way ) which covers her entire HS life, after HS Ayano is going back to WR, before he needed someone to fight againt WR and that was Kei as stated in vol 11.5 where he prayed and wished to god for the first time that he wanted to be with kei even after graduaton and many more in y2 aswell like their dates. But from vol 0 we can come to the conclusion he's going back to WR. And they make a big deal outta smile. She's not a parasite and Koji's full pov itself is wrong. Rn kei is not written in any way better but the author can't just let it stay like this.

​@dappez It is not toxic you are making things up now.😂even if he starts suddenly to fall ,she doesn't like him in that way. Movee on

​@chickenlover.257 Kei is parasite and borning assnp character. She developed like 0. Idk why you defend her. Her character is just trash bro. I don't even ship HoriKoji. Because they are like friends. Suzune behaves like friends with him..that's all. But KeixKoji is just so mid 😂😂 him being single is probably more interesting to me

@@user-wy8ve5nr2n like friends you say, more like teacher and students bruh.. and kei haters will always say parasite, syndrome etc despite them having very good chemistry in year 1 and some in year 2 before Sakura's expulsion vol. even in that vol it was kei who reminded horikita who was messing with the Q'&A buttons and not to forget the one who gave her the courage in y1 after the voting exam when yamagod was expelled and horikita chases kiyo for answers but didn't got any and meets kei who litrally tells her this " you did an amazing job in this vote exam, I'm really impressed by you but yk when it comes to kiyotaka its a diffrent matter all together, I have nothing to fear anymore, If you want to understand you should open up more to which horikita answers in her inner thoughts " I think I'll be betrayed " while looking at kei's back dumb foundedly, who was returing to class. After they started dating she's getting very less screentimen and even her illustration is very less, you all fail to see this..That so called boring character you're calling is in fact the one who drove horikita in her ways.. it wasn't kushida, ichinose, arisu or anyone but kei who was the driving force. In fact kei is the driving force of this ln itself, y1v7 when kiyo meets his father and sae's lies exposes he could've lead the peaceful life he had always wanted back then but it meant cutting off whatever relation he has with kei too which he actually didn't want that and anime s2 showed this perfectly especially the phone call. She didn't ranked 1st for nothing that too twice 2020 and 2021, people are not blind. Haters fail to see such imp points. but the author can't keep her this way, he has to level up her as the girl who can change kiyo..when that time comes we'll be right and if it doesn't then we'll be wrong despite them being in relation. simple as that. author is cooking and you don't want a raw dish i presume. so let him cook and let him put how much ingreidents he wants to put. But kei haters never understand these and they think everything related to kei were blank pages like it never existed lol.

The chance of that happening is now close to 0 as in recent volume Kiyotaka and Kei had lovers quarrel because of Ichinose and he didn't talk to her for long but after they make up with each other, he hope to feel lonely while being separated from Kei but he felt absolutely nothing.

so useless😂

Intersubjectivity

I also believe that love can be nurtured but maybe Koji don't believe in that and thinks him and kei can't work out chill Cote is not saying for u to also follow the same ideology it's just Koji

@@S0.Ahnaf_ Love can be nurtured and that's a fact and it isn't only that there are many other ideas that are easily debunkable or don't make sense in cote

@@Stzzfro omg when did Cote said love can never be nurtured 🤦🏿‍♂️ Koji just won't bother with nurturing his love for kei he thinks they won't work out

@@Stzzfro Koji stayed with kei for a year and she couldn't make him feel anything so he's moving on that's it.

yep you the only one. Since Suzune rejected Sudo in LN and Sudo pretty much give up. There another girl interested in Sudo and he seems he likes her too.

u not the only one, i think horikita and sudo is another ship to be sailing

Horikita and Sudo is something that could only work in a fanfic tbh, only Sudo has any affection for Horikita

While Ayanokoji fills some criteria to be a psychopath but those are solely because he need those criteria to survive in whiteroom.

No he isn't,he is closer to being a sociopath,yes there is a difference.

@@Zionborn555 If you ask me Ayanokoji is neither sociopath nor psychopath he is in between. He showed both psychopathic and sociopathic tendencies

@@___Manish___ cool but mostly socio

@@Zionborn555 It's more in between than going in once favor but ok 👍.

Whose that one 🗿

​@@ShreeGour they are talking about Horikata 🥲

So you like Harry Potter ended with Ginny Weasley? Tbh that's fucked up, it's so sudden without development. Horikita and Ayanokoji have a good development, slow burn love in potential so it's very unjustifiable to Ayanokoji ending up with someone else other than Horikita

😂gona cry

​@ShreeGour I'm crying 😭🥲

@@Violet-fg9db Why, she won?

You’re cringe

You're right other than he never admitted you can't learn love this way. He said if kei can't teach him love he will repeat the process again and again with different girls until he finally learns it.

@@lxfj2128 oh yeah forget about that I just misunderstood that he said this method is wrong I guess he said dating Kei is wrong or she didn't move his heart or something like that

tbh no one aside from kiyokei copers thinks this is bad writing

Mention other people as a simp when you still using KiyoZune Edit illustration really cringe 💀 manipulate , blackmail to fall in love do happend a lot in other manga like shojo Genee. Even force a couple to be together, it can happend if the Person redeem and feel guilt about it for psychological theme in the series , I do think it fit Cote

@@lxfj2128 yeah but it would still make no sense to go after somebody else cause he only has 1 years of scholl left in here and it would feel really unrealisitic if he would just feel love for somebody else just like that