I am not surprised that this channel has more subscribers than autosport

You should make a video about your ideal F1 track, where you implemented all your ideas to have interesting races

Who just saw the Barcelona GP 2020 and thought it was... Well boring?

0:42 That animation is so dope!

Came here even after watching on Autosport to hit the like button ✌️

It's funny that F1 struggles with creating exciting races in Barcelona, while so many other racing series are a spectacle to watch there, f.e. GT series and MotoGP.

I hope autosport pay you well.

One of the few videos on KZfaq that has aged well.

I fully hate the last chicane on this track

This is pretty interesting because parabolica In Monza is GREAT as a fast sweeping corner before a long straight. Such a shame they couldn’t get that to work in Spain.

I am Spanish and i was surprised that he managed to pronounce Jerez perfectly

One man made it interesting this year in the first few seconds

It will be interesting to see the racing now that they have gone back to the classic layout with no final chicane.

There's a simple fix to solve the problems related to the layout of this track: make the car run the opposite way. I don't know why nobody thinks about this solution, but if you look at the nature of the corners and the braking zones, running on this circuit counterclockwise would give formula 1 cars way more opportunities to attempt overtakes, especially because most of the long fast corners would arrive AFTER the straights, which means that they would become partially mild-deceleration and partially mild-acceleration zones. There will still be some hard braking zones and some pure high speed corners, but they will become less impactful on the following cars, because the time loss on these sections would not be multiplied by the long straights after (if you start a long straight slower than the preceding car, you end up loosing a lot of time). Moreover, the (currently) first corner (Elf curve) would become an extremely interesting attack zone, similar to certain sections of the Barhain track, as well as the (currently) second last corner (chicane Racc), which would become a very tricky braking point after the cars would clear the Caixa curve extremely close each other.

Here right before the qualifying of the Spanish GP.

I really appreciate your videos! I'm just getting into motorsports as a fan recently (used to watch a lot when I was a kid, but stopped) and your videos have really helped me get into the sport.

There's a simple solution to this, build alternative routes through the track and mix them up. Another solution is have practice done the opposite way and only allow Saturday pre qualification practice done in the same direction of the race.

getting this recommended right before the Spanish grand prix lol

Well, having watched the race highlights for F2 and F3 that the guys at the formula 1 youtube channel have published I start doubting the fault is on the circuit but rather on F1 itself.

ngl the formula 3 race, both of them were pretty exciting to watch

Anyone else here before Barcelona this week and hoping for a super hot race?

Top class video Chain Bear! 👍👌

Your videos are really improving recently with really slick graphics, keep up the good work!!!!

Is someone here after 2020 spanish gp, which was kinda boring

Catalunya is not the problem, the problem are the giant F1 that we have now, this is the problem. Combined with a team that have made 5 1-2 results in the 5 first races.. I have seen there Blancpain, F2, F3 etc and is proper racing.

This is the best channel for f1 fans. And I love this videos explaining tracks. I would love to see more. Keep your head down and continue this great channel. Congrats

As per usual, a great one! Concgratulations!

who is here after another boring spain gp

Honestly after watching the F3 and F2 races, I think it's that F1 is boring more than the track

Great video as always!!!

Great work. Thanks for that!

I was at the Barcelona Grand Prix this year, in person it was far more exciting than what it showed on tv

It's kinda funny that approximately the same physics influences the excitement of a race where high speed cornering is involved, as what limits airport capacity. The primary factor in how close together two aircraft can take off, is wake turbulence meaning the following aircraft is at high risk of crashing if it takes off too soon after an aircraft in front. This leads to the counter-intuitive situation where it's more efficient to let the small, low capacity aircraft take off first, rather than the big, high capacity heavy ones. Because the large aircraft have much larger wake turbulence, and the smaller ones are much more vulnerable to the dangers of it. So the gap between a small aircraft and a large one can be much smaller if the small one goes first than if the large one does. So it looks like the tiny 'selfish' individual planes get special treatment at busy airports, but in reality this happens because it's more efficient for everyone...

I would love to see more tracks reviewed like this, for overtaking mostly but maybe also a few other aspects.

With the coming replacement from Barcelona to Zandvoort they can keep Barcelona as the test track

The correct title should be: "Why F1 struggles to create exciting races"

Great video mate!

Fascinating analysis

Brilliant video!

Here from 2022... sufficed to say we had an exciting GP

most underrated f1 channel, keep it up you are doing a great job!!!!!!!!!!

Was boring this year aswell

Next weekend race in Barcelona? Let’s recommend this

This video aged well.. the 2021 GP was amazing

This channel came on my recommendations but I don't like car racing still did not stop me from watching videos I'm not sure how but keep it up.

Solution is easy: Move Spanish GP to Motorland Aragón using the 2 km long "straight" and the sharp hairpin at the end.

Nice timing, just after the 2021 Spanish gp. 👍🏻

What an amazing video

Do a video where you fix Barcelona! (and other tracks)

4:41 u can change your line for more downforce making a smaller difference! If u take the corner on the inside rather than the outside and then come out on the outside part of the track u get less dirty air

I saw Autosport post this first, but I waited to watch it until you posted it so I can watch it on your channel.

It's not exciting to watch but it's great to drive on (from my sim experience)

I always come to your original channel , to watch video again and give you a like :D Best videos about F1. You deserve more subscribers.

Watching this the day before i visit the circuit. Just gonna look round

go to the FIA website and download the list of FIA certified tracks, look at the "Grade 1" section. There's your choices for the GP tracks as they sit now. A track can work on various safety and performance measures to make "grade 1" level license, but you also have to take a look at the facilities and access. For example, Watkins Glen in central New York state in the USA (currently FIA Grade 2) used to be the home of the US GP many moons ago. It could achieve the technical improvements to score a Grade 1 license if given enough money. BUT, it is out in the boonies; the logistics of teams, F1/FIA staff, and even the fan volume of modern GP's is just WAY beyond the local infrastructure. So, use that to help guide your guesses on where the replacement (if it happens) may be. (Incidentally, for this reason, I bet you will see the USGP get renewed in Austin, even if FIA has to agree to some non-standard concessions. Cause there really isn't a viable alternative in the USA.)

Brilliant channel. Subbed.

We now have several straights which are defined as DRS zones, where the following car can activate their Drag Reduction System to aid overtaking. Any reason why we shouldn't also have a Downforce Increase System, to aid overtaking on corners too? Or at least overcome the dirty air problem?

Here's an interesting thought, why not have a front wing system similar to drs, but have it increase front end downforce, have a single "DIS" zone on a long downforce heavy zone/corner and give the car following the other a way to keep closer to the car ahead. This could work on corners like the spoon corner at suzuka and barcelonas turn 3. What are your thoughts on this bear?

Excellent or as always

That's really cool!

For very short period of time car behind could follow close but tyre temperature would skyrocket quickly together with extensive tyre wear. Pretty much - one lap max to try to overtake, if not - fall behind few seconds and do clear stint and try again after 30 minutes. Funny that tracks that are less suitable for overtakes, gives better feeling for driving and vice versa.

What if you drove it in reverse? Seems to fix some of the high speed corner to straight bits

I'll miss Spain if it ever actually drops off the circuit, I actually enjoy driving the track in pretty much every game its in.

Thanks for the video, now it makes sense as to why Albon was having issues trying to close in and overtake Grosjean on the last few laps....

You were so good i thought i was watching WTF1

Brilliant!

WTCR is racing this weekend in Zandvoort. Hopefully we will see how that racetrack behaves for series that aren't as aero dependant as F1

I got idea how to improve overtaking but i'm not 100% sure it may work out and would delighted if you said what you think. It's basicly about changing the "source" of gril from aero to tires. Let's make with way less downforce which would allow drives to cope with dirty air. Also benefits from slipstream and DRS would be reduced, so they will be more likely to look for moves in more specific places (like Turn 8 in Catalunya). To keep cars as quick as they are FIA should ask Pirelli to reproject the tires so they would be super grippy. If they would be also projected to hit the cliff no later than 50% of race distance on hardest copmpound it will force teams to at leats 2 stops. 3 stops also would be posibble as car on fresh tires wouldn't be hold down behind other cars. For me it's the best way which could make F1 great again

I wonder how running the circuit anti-clockwise would affect this race

Old layout with no cut short turns are the best Barcelona Spain GP in F1 and MotoGP Bike Race because in 2016 MotoGP Season ended the life by Luis Salom 39 rider at old corner approach with serious impact

One of the greatest Motogp races ever happened in Barcelona. Valentino Rossi vs Jorge Lorenzo 2009 if you f1 fans are looking for a truly fantastic race on this track I recommend searching that race. There was also a lot of meaning behind the race since it was two teammates on the same bike fighting for the title

The problem is the last chicane. If they found a way to modify so that you can carry speed through to the pit straight better. It would make it way easier to overtake. Find a way to modify it or get rid of it. That would make it so much better

The problem is not the track but the reliance on down force. Reduce or remove the wings and make the car designers focus on mechanical grip. Look at go-karts and how close and exciting they are to watch.

Interesting that F1 at catalunya is less than exciting, while some of my favorite Bike races have been there. it makes sense though given the state of the cars and the inability to follow close.

you really help a lot with my project cars 2 game

tracks would not have to be the determinant factor in if a race is exciting or not if the vehicles were better regulated.

Of course this pops up on my recommendations when Barcelona is literally 2 days away

God this was some incredible foreshadowing

So, Barcelona could make t1 a sweeping right hander that leads into a sudden kink as you find yourself in what would normally be t3, the lap goes on as usual until you get to turn 9, you go straight on, onto the runoff and then it’s that runoff’s right hander, on to the straight than onto the outside version of the next corner and take the old chicane to finish your lap

I think pre-season testing should be held at non-championship circuit like Jerez or Valencia (Riccardo Tormo). If the Spanish GP is droped (which seems unlikely given the latest news) or it's moved elsewhere (there were plans for that before - Valencia cough, cough) I think Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya will remain the primary testing ground. I think Riccardo Tormo should be the new pre-season testing venue Speaking of Zandvoort - this circuit in its current form is nothing like the one from 1985, when the Dutch GP was last held. The cars also evolved. But the problem is this - The Netherlands does not have a suitable track for modern F1 as Assen, the other Dutch track, is more suitable for motorcycles and any layout changes will need to be approved by the FIM. Another street race (around either Amsterdam or Rotterdam) is not going to be welcomed warmly as if F1 didn't have enough street circuits (or tracks that use normal road network like Melbourne, Montreal and Sochi) already with the all-new Hanoi Street Circuit in Vietnam. Also I think the Dutch GP could be alternating with the German GP at Hockenheim. Mexico is also on the chop given the limited state support for the race recently.

Before I watch: it's a great track!

I'm in so much s-PAIN while watching these races!

Wasn't this track originally designed for Moto GP and not for car racing?

Ever since the start of the F1 races, one or two teams dominated the races. From Maserati and Ferrari, Lotus, Tyrell, McLaren, Williams, Red Bull and now Mercedes. Only drastic rulechanges will break that streak (as we have seen in the past) and will provide us with one or two other teams that will dominate. This can only change if the FIA makes huge changes that benefit the lower ranked teams much more then the higher ranked teams. One idea: a maximum number of laps for testing, with the lowest amount for the last years champion and the most for the lowest in previous championship. So for example: in 2019 Mercedes would get 100 laps, and Williams 1000. There are a lot of other ideas on how to make the playing field more even for teams. To make races more exciting, there are also a lot of ideas. Most come down to changes to the tracks and reducing dirty air. Ons example is to extemely simplify the front and rear wing. One thought that I had is to drastically reduce the size of the cars. It reduces drag and dirty air. It allows for more space of the cars to overtake in corners (less car, more room) and it also provides high level engineering, as smaller cars are more difficult to make and fast and safe. Btw, I got this idea after seeing a vid that compared the sizes of F1 cars throughout the decades. But, all the ideas, all the wishes, all the desires to change F1 into something less expensive and more spectacular while keeping the core values like the high level of engineering and being the king of motorsport, all of that wont matter. Ferrari will veto any change that does not favor them, or threaten to leave the F1. Mercedes does the same. RedBull pumps so much money iinto their two teams, that Liberty Media wont propose any changes that will make the teams unhappy, even when it is for the good of the sport. Money rules, and the biggest spenders want to keep it as it is: rolling advertisement for their products.

Wow you hit 200K subs?! i remember watching you from the beginning like at 5k subs

@Chain Bear, can you make a video of zandvoort comparing what you've said in this video and the changes made to track for this year?

Would it be viable and would it make sense if, on the race weekend, they reversed the track? That would allow for a medium-speed turn onto the pit straight, and a low-speed turn onto the back straight. This would also make the testing data less applicable for setting up the cars come race weekend.

I didn't even know that Max had said that about Zandvoort. So his most recent comments are definitely pure PR talk :D

Circuit de Catalunya is one of my favorite circuits for hotlaps, it's a shame F1 might not race there anymore

It would be really useful to have an idea of a "perfect" track. If you were to design a track how would it look? It would be great to see what tracks it's most alike.

*twitter suggestion becomes actual video* *so much happiness*

How about making split tracks on part of the track where the cars could go left or right and later merge with both sides needing about the same time. That would make overtaking for the faster car easier. No dirty air.

who is here before the gp this weekend?

Jesus you should've seen my race here in F1 2018. It was madness

Perfect timing KZfaq alogrithm

The last chicane is a huge reason.

would be nice to see examples from f1 races (or do individual clips demonstrated as exampled get taken down?).

I don't think in the current layout the final corner is the real problem for overtaking. In the previous configuration it was, but now it's that stupid chicane. The main problem in this race was low tire degradation and high physical wear, forcing drivers to stop multiple times for tires without actually getting much of a performance advantage in return. The 2011, 2012 and 2013 events were quite good, so this track can produce interesting races if tire degradation is high.

Great explanation. The Spanish GP 2020 was indeed super boring and it makes sense why even Max couldn't keep up with Lewis.

The last corner has been flat in the dry for almost every single F1 car that has set a foot on Barcelona's "new" layout, including turds like 2009 ones. Only in 2014 they lifted just a bit. It's not aero limited, at all. The only thing that can make you lift is cold or destroyed rear tyres, it's just a curved traction zone mate. Following another car through there is faster if anything but the concertina effect makes that hard unless you are way faster than the car ahead overall and have way better traction.