Why did Ciraldo and the Tigers fall through? Is Noddy next? | NRL 360 | Fox League

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@bradglawson4395
@bradglawson4395 2 жыл бұрын
Ill take the tigers coaching job. If i cant get them to a top 8 nxt year ,ill walk around mount panorama butt naked 😂😂😂
@bfg3890
@bfg3890 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like an excellent reason not to give you the job
@bradglawson4395
@bradglawson4395 2 жыл бұрын
@@bfg3890 but im qualified mate. First year of coaching got a side from 3 wins all year to gf nxt year...tbh i couldnt do worse than the last 4 coaches 😂😂😂
@bfg3890
@bfg3890 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradglawson4395 not worth the risk of you walking around naked.
@chrisrobinson8784
@chrisrobinson8784 2 жыл бұрын
Ben and Shane Walker should get a crack, at this point that can't get any worse
@Mac-jx8uj
@Mac-jx8uj 2 жыл бұрын
I reckon them boys would be well suited with the warriors !
@shuzzbot
@shuzzbot 2 жыл бұрын
Really that under 8s stuff. Look at the brothers Q cup record its not very impressive.
@cvarikos
@cvarikos 2 жыл бұрын
Flanagan used to play for Wests so he has that connection to the club. Ciraldo knows the Panthers, in german there is a saying 'Know what you're good at and just stick to it'. Noddy has that element of Potter, Barrett, Brown where it is a case of ignorance is bliss .. if you ask these guys, that works until it doesn't. The newer coaches really struggle with being able to fully connect with the playing group, they get impatient and start distancing themselves from results. You'll find Bellamy might slate the players once a season because he knows you're flogging a dead horse if you keep doing it.
@youareawesome5236
@youareawesome5236 2 жыл бұрын
Ciraldo has no balls. Either take a job or put out a press release saying you'll 'field no more offers' . He legit thinks he's gonna get the Storm or Roosters gig eventually lol
@mickfitz76
@mickfitz76 2 жыл бұрын
He is the highest paid assistant in the game. 400k a year to get coffee for Ivan for a decade. I wouldn't leave either.
@holyliable5829
@holyliable5829 2 жыл бұрын
Ciraldo's probably been given the word from Ivan Cleary that the Tigers boardroom is toxic so don't even go there! Always someone to blame from players to coaches but the Tigers board takes no accountability whatsoever, funny that.
@andrewmason8691
@andrewmason8691 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t need Cleary to tell him that.
@Scooty_Scooty
@Scooty_Scooty 2 жыл бұрын
Cleary could of told him what not to do at the Tigers for example don't build a useless roster, demand everyone get on the bus and then bail out.
@danieljosevski1169
@danieljosevski1169 2 жыл бұрын
Good point
@khanager2814
@khanager2814 2 жыл бұрын
The clubs deserve it for churning through coaches without giving them any chance to turn the club around. The boards are at fault and they never own their mistakes.
@StanslaMichael
@StanslaMichael 2 жыл бұрын
This has been going on for almost 20yrs. What's truly amazing is your only just getting it. The game has changed yet their operation and Management style has stayed the same. Those clubs without a coach are clubs that have been run by people that have no business in running a club. They do not have the ability to see what it takes for the long term future of the club. It's no secret that clubs that are the top have invested heavily on development, grassroots and culture. Those struggling at the bottom have little to no development so they are forced to buy what is on the market and what they can afford. They have done that for years. The talent pool they thought they had is not ready or just isn't there. Right now if you are a player or coach you would be out of your mind to sign with the Warriors or the Tigers. No prospect of winning a championship, those that do sign are the one's that have no option or have that as an option in their contract, because no other club wants them. Nothing short of clearing out management and bringing in someone with a long term goal and a strong development, grassroots and cultural mindset. You only have to look at the top teams and see the number of players that have played together at development level and are playing now to see the benefits of investing in development. A spine that has been together that long is a massive advantage. Not having to spend money buying players and coaches and reinvesting in development and grassroots only further increases your chances of producing players that can win championships, as opposed to buying the dregs that no one wants, to rebuild a dying club. Those people that are in charge of picking the board need to understand that a championship club today starts from development, grassroots and a strong culture. It's everything, without it, the game dies. The Mastermind was Wayne Bennett . Every top coach and club has taken and or worked under Wayne and have in place those very systems. There is a reason the All Blacks chose this system and the reason why Canterbury are still winning championships. This should be a warning to the NRL. If they don't start pushing really hard promotion and development at grassroots this game will eventually die out. What's happening that no one is talking about is the young talent that is being crushed by being thrown in to hype that they may save the club. The very worst of this is happening at the Warriors.
@SilentHotdog28
@SilentHotdog28 2 жыл бұрын
Ponga could have been (and could still be) a superstar, he is a good player with a lot of potential....But has been ruined by all the pressure that's on him at Newcastle, look at Papenhuyzen and Hynes, those 2 have been molded properly and are now going absolutely amazing.
@swingham4020
@swingham4020 2 жыл бұрын
Well said mate, lots of truth & facts in your post, proof is in the history, AB’s & Cantabs have structure & huge development pathways, people want to play with them & stay there longterm
@bl5050
@bl5050 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone actually read all that
@MrWah79
@MrWah79 2 жыл бұрын
The Crusaders are still winning comps because it's the only region in NZ, and perhaps the world, that people still care about Rugby. Participation levels for Union in New Zealand are declining nationally and sports like basketball are having huge increases year on year at a grassroots level. Add that to poor participation numbers in Australia, where the private schools that used to supply Wallaby talent are now replacing union goal posts with AFL posts, and you'll find that it's probably Union in this area of the world that is under threat. The Warriors have just spent nearly 1000 days on the road to prop up the NRL broadcast deal. They've done extremely well to remain as competitive as they have during the covid period.
@kevinwaters5872
@kevinwaters5872 2 жыл бұрын
Just waiting for the Tigers to announce as their new coach : Michael Maguire.
@SilentHotdog28
@SilentHotdog28 2 жыл бұрын
It'd be funny if he said no.
@owenburgess1523
@owenburgess1523 2 жыл бұрын
Well look at what Graig Fitzgibbon he took over a sqaud that John Morris built apart from a couple of players, he waited for the right club. Cronulla were in a tricky spot before John Morris took over yet he debut so many players so why would the tigers not go with John Morris. If he got a lot of young players through why not go with him
@forddriver8827
@forddriver8827 2 жыл бұрын
I still find it astounding that Paul Kent is paid a salary.
@DavidTramacchi
@DavidTramacchi 2 жыл бұрын
I think Shane Flanigan is a good fit for the Tigers, unfortunately he has been tarred with the Doping Brush from the Sharks...
@Hinzey98
@Hinzey98 2 жыл бұрын
6 years ago get over it.
@DavidTramacchi
@DavidTramacchi 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hinzey98 I have never an issue, Tigers board is the problem
@davidtaliai996
@davidtaliai996 2 жыл бұрын
Why not bring back brett hodgson from the UK? he's a tigers man, will work well with sheens and is magpies junior who can help with junior pathways in the south west.
@michaeln537
@michaeln537 2 жыл бұрын
Yeh he can teach the players how to get rag dolled over the sideline or how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by throwing a stray pass, helping the opposition create a dynasty.
@justenbeashel
@justenbeashel 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaeln537 HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA SO TRUE 😂
@andrewmason8691
@andrewmason8691 2 жыл бұрын
The job is so big, I would be looking at a co-coach set up.
@Alekosdw
@Alekosdw 2 жыл бұрын
Give Steve georgallis a go ! He played for the magpies an wests tigers ! More then 200 first grade games playing experience ! Not to mention Has been an interim coach at two clubs an always gets his team to compete competetively ! + he’s done a long apprenticeship from 2005 An he’s now one of the cowboys coaches an look at how they’re going !
@nichobee
@nichobee 2 жыл бұрын
It shouldn't be that hard to run an NRL club. It's all about knowing the fundamentals, which clubs like the Storm understand completely
@garybaltiejus7248
@garybaltiejus7248 2 жыл бұрын
Ciraldo got cold feet for good reason he probably thought about how good his ego would feel if it worked out after so many have failed. But in the end he probably realised it would lead him on the road to nowhere
@clarkey59
@clarkey59 2 жыл бұрын
Kimorley is not a coach ffs this has run its course.
@iangregory54
@iangregory54 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't blame the whole mess on Kimmorley though
@clarkey59
@clarkey59 2 жыл бұрын
@@iangregory54 not blaming him Bud, just saying he is not a coach, one man one job
@floodwaters8887
@floodwaters8887 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed he can't even talk, can hardly understand him
@wayneking5260
@wayneking5260 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll coach the lot ! Maybe Freddy after origin and billy as well
@imalwaysright
@imalwaysright 2 жыл бұрын
A segment that was too long and loaded with conjecture
@bfg3890
@bfg3890 2 жыл бұрын
First time here I take it.
@nahzewilliams5912
@nahzewilliams5912 2 жыл бұрын
@@bfg3890 haha
@imalwaysright
@imalwaysright 2 жыл бұрын
@@bfg3890 nah but I know what u saying 😂😂😂😂
@floodwaters8887
@floodwaters8887 2 жыл бұрын
Ciraldo would have been offered 1million+.. massive money to turn down to stay a assistant
@mrfishmon5517
@mrfishmon5517 2 жыл бұрын
The problem is that in Australia the press and media build up reputations of coaches and players. They make them bigger than what they are. They give Barrett plenty opportunity and they will do the same with Ciraldo.
@victoryline5689
@victoryline5689 2 жыл бұрын
We all knew Brooks was an ordinary H/B 5yrs ago *drops mic*
@wademellor5304
@wademellor5304 2 жыл бұрын
Flanagan has to be the best option. People like Lodge, Packer etc have done worse crimes and been allowed back in the game. He has served his time on the sideline. Time for a 2nd chance. Max 3yr contract.
@michaelolofsson8558
@michaelolofsson8558 2 жыл бұрын
Third chance. He burned his second chance when he was still coaching when banned.
@Juicepluggedin
@Juicepluggedin 2 жыл бұрын
Remember guys: *He wasn’t employed to be the coach!* 😂
@newglorydays-yu6bb
@newglorydays-yu6bb 2 жыл бұрын
Shane played for Wests could be a good fit.
@DIVLJIVUK
@DIVLJIVUK 2 жыл бұрын
Brad Arthur to be tigers next coach. Ciraldo to be Eels next coach
@ajayharry987
@ajayharry987 2 жыл бұрын
I love how a room full of journalists don’t ask the former players opinion.
@trentnathan1
@trentnathan1 10 ай бұрын
This has aged well 😂
@paulcundy410
@paulcundy410 2 жыл бұрын
Its a mess and they have only made it harder. Ciraldo was never going to sign and the Management at the Wests Tigers have no idea. With that said most of the players have shown very little commitment to the Club or their personal performance. It's an embarrassment.
@maryannesolomon1562
@maryannesolomon1562 2 жыл бұрын
The fact the warriors ain't going after madge, the NZ head coach is baffling 🤦🏽‍♂️
@bittersweet340
@bittersweet340 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the NRL needs a draft system to happen... if coaches knocking back bottom ladder clubs. As for the Warriors 20' tournament was a big draw card for future nrl players and the club was very successful as well... Can't always blame the coach, look at Maguire had success with the Kiwis.
@danieljosevski1169
@danieljosevski1169 2 жыл бұрын
Why would clubs develop players for them to be drafted by another club?
@michaelolofsson8558
@michaelolofsson8558 2 жыл бұрын
Why the hell would ANYONE join tigers or warriors? Neither of them hold onto coaches, you're just warming the chair.
@Scooty_Scooty
@Scooty_Scooty 2 жыл бұрын
These flags keep.mentioning Woolf as a rookie coach, uhh he has won titles in England and over seen the rise of Tonga at international level. At NRL sure but one of there earlier points was these rookies haven't proven themselves as head coaches elsewhere and have just been assistants. Woolf has proven himself elsewhere.
@sirhc8972
@sirhc8972 2 жыл бұрын
Yep won 2 super league titles and challenge cup with us
@liamc004
@liamc004 2 жыл бұрын
It’d be easy for the tigers to blame cilrado if he failed, glad he didn’t take the job. Front office clean out needed
@mootfm1107
@mootfm1107 2 жыл бұрын
I have a crazy idea why Shane Flanagan is not being hired. He’s a cheat
@warriorskarena4567
@warriorskarena4567 2 жыл бұрын
Madge should go to the warriors. Makes sense. Warriors/kiwis
@danieljosevski1169
@danieljosevski1169 2 жыл бұрын
They had Mick Potter...just saying 😂
@Jp-do9ny
@Jp-do9ny 2 жыл бұрын
The tigers talk is getting boring
@mkim1505
@mkim1505 2 жыл бұрын
They will not employee S Flanagan because his M Maguire all over again
@peterichards4317
@peterichards4317 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll give it a crack 😜😜
@joshwilson1020
@joshwilson1020 2 жыл бұрын
What about ciraldo… geeze guys way to long on this topic don’t ya think?
@matthewmclachlan453
@matthewmclachlan453 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is kenty slurring his words through the whole thing?
@youtoob655
@youtoob655 2 жыл бұрын
tigers dodged a bullet i reckon, makes no sense for a club in a mess to sign a rookie unproven coach
@Benyad23q
@Benyad23q 2 жыл бұрын
these man trying so hard to get their workmate flanagan a job its pathetic and making him look weak
@Lanceyboy03
@Lanceyboy03 2 жыл бұрын
Ffs, are you kidding me NRL 360, another segment on the West Tigers!? Ciraldo is naive, amateur assistant coach. Does he really think that top sides will want to sign him up if he remains an assistant coach with a lack of proper experience and no credentials. Imagine if he did go to WT and turned the club around into a top 8 side. That would look great on his resume. Only then would top clubs be interested in his signature. A missed opportunity on his behalf. Give it a rest fellas, you’re beating a dead horse.
@hoggers7572
@hoggers7572 2 жыл бұрын
It's a good decision by Ciraldo, Where do you go after getting sacked by the Tigers?
@sagyopants1208
@sagyopants1208 2 жыл бұрын
Braith is captain fucking obvious tonight.
@6fesh8boy57
@6fesh8boy57 2 жыл бұрын
warriors should sign kenty as coach ahahaha
@Juddoz.johnston.com.
@Juddoz.johnston.com. 2 жыл бұрын
EVERYBODY ABOVE TIM SHEENS AT THE TIGERS NEED 2 LEAVE STRAIGHT AWAY AND REBUILD THE WHOLE CEO AND ADMIN DEPT AT TIGERS AND IT WILL FEED THROUGH TO A BETTER SEASON..... START AT THE TOP, JUSTIN PASCOE PISS OFF
@trackjunky3338
@trackjunky3338 2 жыл бұрын
THE ONLY THING I SEE IS TIGER DWELLING IN THE BOTTOM FOR A FEW MORE YEARS , QUITE SAD
@blessedjaravani2260
@blessedjaravani2260 2 жыл бұрын
Give Benji and Robby a go
@MA-ri5he
@MA-ri5he 2 жыл бұрын
Like listening to old woman playing cards at a retirement home.
@aximusroh6453
@aximusroh6453 2 жыл бұрын
worse!
@_a_mere300
@_a_mere300 2 жыл бұрын
are these expert serious,why really don't know why cheating ex Cronulla coach can't get a job?
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