There are times when we may not recognise we are sinning and when we do realise it let's pray for the strength to turn from temptation and repent.

Amen!

Good to see you brother 🫡

Hallelujah to that!

Amen

Jesus is God the Father's Son.evenvin heaven before He was sent by His Father to die on the cross for our sins.

🙄... That' s definitely NOT what the BIBLE shows or says❣️❣️❣️ Jesus, himself HAS a GOD, HIS FATHER, the ONLY TRUE and ALMIGHTY GOD! ❣️❣️JOHN 20: 17 💎📖💎❣️ (Jesus is the ONLY WAY to HIM , to his FATHER, GOD ❣️ - JOHN 14 : 6💎📖💎

Nobody can seem to answer these questions in the comments, which leaves me confused and not satisfied.😢

​@@heidii1first verse say "into the beginning God created the heavens and the earth", in the heavens before humans was where Lucifa was kicked out, God wanted to be just with him and prove that even humans can be obedient, so he placed a tree as a test.

@@dubazanasandile5613 why a test though? Why test us??! When he had the option not to? Why send us through thousands of years of suffering from 2 peoples mistake?

The question was answered though. Think of the tree symbollicly. God wanted to give humans free will. As a parent you can't protect your children from everything, but you want to give them the freedom to do as they please. This means some of their decisions may harm them, or those around them. You said you wouldn't put dangerous things near your children, but this simply isn't true. Fire is dangerous, but we need it to stay warm and cook food. Bodies of water can be dangerous, but we need water to live. There are plants and fungi that are harmful to us but not other organism. Like I said we can't protect our children from everything, but we can teach them about danger. It's up to them to obey us. God never tempted Adam and Eve, he only warned them.

@@Thaijler God put the tree there knowing what would happen. It’s his fault. Adam and Eve didn’t understand the full consequences, God didn’t fully inform them. How can a mere act of disobedience warrant such a dire eternal punishment. It’s evil. God is evil.

So filled with magical stupid, and wrong about everything?? Yup thats correct.

​@larryscarr3897 the fool in his heart. Smh

Very good explanation Sis. Beth. God bless you ❤

Beautiful Beth!! Although I might have to debate you on God not wanting to be friends with us. The cross was his way of reconciling with us. It was his way of wanting to fix the separation and essentially be friendly or have relationship with us. But I think you just meant he was willing to be rejected on our behalf due to our ignorance. Tell me your thoughts! He is good and knows exactly what he's doing!! Even the things we don't understand. I know I can trust his character!

It's a paradox (mystery). If God created man and angels without freewill then there is no love, then with freewill man can reject God's laws and God Himself. Why? because He is God, and He says what is good and what is evil, and not us. Who tempted Lucifer to reject God? Did he tempted himself, freewill tempted him? Adam and Eve know what is good and what is evil or bad before they eat the fruit. The name 'Tree of knowledge of good and evil' is that they will see the effect of evil/sins after they break God's law. They were naked before, then after the sin they feel the effects, the shamefulness, nakedness. I guess only when they sinned, they can feel, see, taste thru the effect of sins, which might affect all things not just nakedness. Babies don't see or understand their shamefulness when they were naked until they grown up. Do thoughts come to us, or we think, and the thought/idea come about? There are thought that we don't want or not aware certainly come to mind. Are those evils thoughts from the devils or our memory or the bi products of memories that generated or from external stimuli? Adam and Eve knew what is good and evil before the serpent half lying to them, were they still tricked, or they have choices, and they choose to break the command? I think they are tempted but not tricked. "Tricked" seems to mean they have no choice, so they are not at fault, and not responsible or guilty of their action. Tree of knowledge of good and evil = moral principles. Eating the fruit of that tree = violate the moral principles (decide for ourselves what is good and evil, my way not your way, we still do that, eating that fruits, when we sinned)

I am also Christian and thought the same way but there are multiple things that happen here 1. Eve was deceived remember the serpent was very subtle he purposely went to the weaker vessel the woman he knew his lies couldn't get to adam because adam already knew about the tree from GOD. 2. They both had a choice tho eve became more knowledgeable than adam when she ate as like the serpent when the scriptures says they became like God's knowing good and evil she knew before adam which is why she was able to convince him.3.youre right they did not know what lying was they did not know what nakedness was either they only know what God told Adam and what Adam told eve that's the chain of order the serpent intervened and also nakedness here is not sin.The SIN was that they disobey GODS LAW also the End of the Story is EVE SHOULD HAVE OBEY HER HUSBAND

Why was hate created ?

@Gene2tek it's the opposite of love it's always present all emotions are apart of free will GOD gave us

Yes you do. Everyday you have the choice to obey God

@@RaSheedapowerSeriously? Are you trolling or do you really don’t know what they are talking about?

Right and we all die because of Adam’s sin yet Jesus’s sacrifice you have to choose to believe in it or whatever… At least that’s what the average Christian church teaches…

We DO have a choice. Every day you have the choice to obey God or sin. That’s called free will.

@@brogen.c but did we have the choice to be born?

To look at your statement in one LIGHT I would quite agree but you the Human Being must devulge the Kowledge to others after you have prayed to God Almighty and asking His Holy Spirit and Angels to guide your speaking that the Devil does not try to cause a fuse shortage in the connection of the message!

If humans were ‘programmed’ to always follow the rules and do good by God, we wouldn’t have free will. God wanted humans to be free, and therefore have a choice whether to obey or disobey laws.

This is what Im battling with and the whole of genesis 😢 nobody seems to answer this question in a way which ‘clicks’ or makes sense for me. The answers of how god didnt want us to be robots seems like such a cop out answer because if he would never have given the option of the tree we wouldnt even know there was that option. And theyre saying that because two people made a mistake billions of people are paying the price over thousands of years?

Consider this option, why didn't Adam burn the tree ?

@@matium1528 Why do you keep asking why he didn’t burn the tree, do you have something against trees 🌳😂

Oh my gosh!!! I am exactly the same as you!! Struggling massively with these questions and the old testament which seems completely different to the new testament. Does not seem like the same god at all. And it definitely feels like an experiment or test to me as well. I wish somebody could answer my questions with something that satisfies me but all Im left with is the same story over and over. No other perspective. Like yourself I really want to be a believer and a good christian but how can I be if Im not satisfied in my heart with the story Im given? Its an internal battle😢

Sounds like you’re both on the path to atheism. There’s no straighter path toward atheism than simply reading the bible.

God knew that Adam and Eve would sin. However, he still gave them a choice to obey him or disobey him. Otherwise known as free will. If humans were ‘programmed’ to always follow the rules like robots, we wouldn’t have free will. God wanted humans to be free and have the ability to make our own choices.

I came looking for answers to this question and it still doesnt answer the WHY for me. But why did he do put it there as an option knowing they could potentially eat from it and we would have to go thousands of years of suffering. Like you said, surely if God didnt even bother putting it there then the rest of the story wouldnt need to happen. The reason of ‘to make them not robots - to give them free will’ sounds like a cop out to me. What we never knew we would never have the capability to do. So two people failed a test and now billions of us pay for it? I really want to believe and Im trying so hard but I have so many unanswered questions. And I see nobody responded to yours either😢

​@heidii1 without the choice to disobey there is no real obedience. Without a punishment there is no mercy. Without mercy there is no sacrifice and without sacrifice there is no love. To be in the presence of God is to be in the presence of the holy things too, so there must have stood the tree as well.

@@What-he5pr why bother testing us in the first place though? If God is all seeing and all hearing for sure knew the outcome. The thousands of years of suffering from two peoples must mistake could’ve been avoided if he just didn’t have the option of a test. It doesn’t sit right with me, but I wish it did

​@heidii1 he may know the outcome, but we don't. Another reason for the mercy. This is all a consequence of the type of free will we have. It's only scary if you don't think Jesus already freed us of sin by grace alone. In actuality, there is no punishment awaiting us. Beyond that is a mystery.

@@What-he5prWhy didn’t Jesus immediately save Adam and Eve and thus humanity. What was the point in waiting so long.

God specifically told them not to eat from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, but they did it anyway, therefore they sinned because they disobeyed God.

Yup, Christian beliefs make no sense, they shut their eyes and cover their ears to these things.

Not for humans; or at most, they knew eating from that one tree was evil. (see Romans 4:15; 7:8). The tree could just as well have been called the Tree of the Law, since it is by law we know good from evil. When we make up our own rules, we make thing much worse.

So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was a delight to the eyes, and that the tree was to be desired to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate, and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate. (Genesis 3:6, ESV) Notice how it says Eve saw that it was good for food and a delight to the eyes. Obviously they were able to make judgements about whether things were good, prior to eating the fruit. Furthermore, if Adam and Eve did not know that eating of the fruit would be sin (knowledge of evil), then how could God hold them accountable for choosing one way or the other? Rather than just a general sense of good and evil, the knowledge which Satan was referring to was the divine knowledge and wisdom that only God posesses. He was, in effect, trying to make them jealous of their creator (Satan said they would become like God.) Here is an excerpt from The Bible Knowledge Commentary: The results, of course, were anticlimactic. The promise of divine enlightenment did not come about. They both ate and saw, but they were spoiled by so doing. They were ill at ease with one another (mistrust and alienation) and they were ill at ease with God (fearful and hiding from Him). Satan’s promises never come true. Wisdom is never attained by disobeying God’s Word. Instead the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom (Prov. 1:7).

But god see all things before it happens right ?

@@Gene2tekYes. God knew Adam and Eve would sin. However, he still gave them a CHOICE to obey Him or disobey Him. (Free will)

God wants humans to be free. If humans were ‘programmed’ to always follow the rules like robots, we wouldn’t be able to make our own choices, therefore we wouldn’t have free will. God wants us to be free, so that’s why we have free will. That’s why we have a CHOICE to obey God or disobey God.

@@brogen.c that explanation is played also watered down not trying to be a dick I am really asking also don't like that answer also I am saying if god is all good where does evil come from and the first place Free Will? Also if we don't do right still going to the lake of fire so where is your choice either way

God is the author of both good and evil. They come as a pair of opposites, so the creation of one automatically necessitates the creation of the other as a byproduct. It should be noted in the scriptures that it said light was created, not darkness for darkness already existed and the Hebrew word used for darkness there is chosek and speaks of spiritual darkness, not the absence of a luminary object. Adam and Eve did not sin. Adam sinned for the commandment to not eat of the tree was given to him and him alone. According to the scriptures, Eve ate for two reasons: it was pleasing to her senses, and she desired wisdom. There can be no wisdom without knowledge because wisdom is the appropriate application of knowledge. This notion that sin started with the fall of man has holes in it. Man was never intended to live forever temporally for if he were, there would never have been the need for the creation of time by way of day and night. Furthermore Satan being in the garden proves that sin was already present before the eating of the fruit ever occurred. The sin is plainly laid out in Genesis 3:17: And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake. Adam chose to listen to Eve instead of God which is why Adam was cast out of the Garden. Eve left not because she had sinned and was cast but because a woman must leave her father and cling to her husband as one flesh. Eve understood her assignment as a helper and thus went about her duty to gain wisdom. Adam did not understand his assignment because he was to have dominion over all and was unable to do that by giving in to Eve's request to partake of the fruit. Adam should've refused the fruit when offered and presented the matter to God when He returned.

@@lcarp545 If sin already existed PRIOR to Eve sinning, where did it come from? God cannot create sin. Secondly, Eve was perfect so for her to have desire APART FROM GOD, still does not answer HOW AND FROM WHOM sin came. I see what you are saying, it just does not make sense to me. I appreciate your reply!

@@ter8330Hello. Thank you for your comment. I hope this explanation will shed some light. So let's begin shall we! Good created free will. Sin is a byproduct of that thus He created sin. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these thing. Being good like being disobedient is a choice, not an exclusivity. You assume that because God is good that He is not capable of evil. It is the refusal to do evil that makes one good. Evil is what gives good its virtue just like death gives meaning to life. There is a duality to this world. Things exist both temporally and spiritually. Furthermore, things manifest themselves spiritually before they ever manifest themselves temporally. The Adversary was in the Garden to tempt Eve. How did he get there if sin hadn't occurred until the Fall. Revelation 13:7-9 sheds light on this And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. 8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. The Savior's Atonement was completed before the world was ever formed and not some 2000 years ago. Why because there was a need for it before Adam was ever placed in the Garden because sin already existed thus the need for atoning sacrifice already existed. We view time in a linear fashion because of our temporalness not understanding that time is a construct of this realm. Most people confuse eternity with infinity. They think eternal life means they will live on forever like an infinite measure of time. Eternity is outside the realm of time, thus everything occurs in an instant. It is why God is the Alpha and the Omega and it is why He is omniscient without infringing on your free will. All is known because it is laid before Him in is entirely. Eve didn't sin. You have to pay attention to the order of the scriptures. Genesis 1: 26-27 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Man here regrets to mankind which is why he refers to them as they... both male and female. Notice in bets 28 & 29 what mankind is told: And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29 ¶ And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. Notice that Adam and Eve are equals as mankind had been given dominion over the earth. Also note in verse 29 that mankind is told that all trees are to be used as meat. So the instruction Eve heard was that all trees were for consumption. Now go to Genesis 2:16'17 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. Notice it states the man which is referring to Adam only and not mankind. How can we be sure of this? Because Eve isn't talked about until verses 21-24 well after the commandment to not eat of the tree was given. And the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; 22 And the rib, which the Lord God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. 23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man. 24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. That doesn't make sense right.... but it does if you understudy that one chapter is talking about the spiritual creation and the other is talking about the temporal creation. Things must exist spiritually before they do temporally. How else could the Christ be there at creation and not yet be born? Eve never received the temporal instruction to not eat from God, she received it from Adam, her equal. Genesis 3:16 is where the female is made subordinate to the make Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. Further evidence that Eve did not sin comes in the next verse And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Notice God directed his displeasure at Adam because as stated He commanded thee... not them. So why did Eve eat of the fruit? Because she was commanded to be fruitful, multiply and replenish the earth as well as to have dominion over it. How could she possibly do that without knowledge or wisdom? She did what she was commanded to do, he did not. One of the issues that comes with taking the Bible out of its Hebrew context is that certain subtleties are missed do to the lack of understanding their language and culture. The Torah.... more accurately the Pentatuch... would have been recited and passed down orally. Adam in Hebrew means dirt, soil, earth. So what you have in the Garden is man... not mankind... in his entirety. Adam who was created temporally from soil, became spiritually soiled and as a punishment, was returned to the soil. Eve is spiritually soiled not because she sinned against God but because he did and she is a byproduct of him. They are one flesh, therefore if he is returned to soil there too she must also go. I am very aware that was a lot. I hoped it made some sense and answered some questions. If not hit me be back and we can discuss more. The key is not to rely on what you've been taught but to read and see the scriptures as they are before you. The Bible is a Hebrew document, not a Christian one. You have to make a strong effort to not project your Christian ideals onto the scriptures. Doing so will cause you to miss plain truths that are in front of you. Jesus was born and died a Jew. The Bible is 90% written by Hebrews. Even Paul, the emissary to the gentiles was a Pharisees from the Tribe of Benjamin. Christianity as you know it doesn't even exist until well after the New Testament has taken place. See things from a fresh perspective and enjoy the ride. You will be amazed at what you uncover.😀

​@@lcarp545What if adam didn't eat the forbidden fruit that means they won't die but eve has the knowledge of good and evil and adam doesn't know how to understand eve

What if eve didn't eat the forbidden fruit then they didn't die and ate the tree of life then they only knew how to multiply babies maybe with the trillion population of the world hahaha

God told them not to

@@coryburns9161 but how would they know that to eat was wrong?

@timbothegreat7767 how do you not understand my comment God gave them instructions on what to do

@@coryburns9161 i appreciate this is all made up anyway but there is a difference between 'knowing' something is wrong and 'being told' you shouldn't do something. if someone asks you to turn the volume down on the TV, you know that is what they want, but you won't necessarily know it is wrong not to do it.

@timbothegreat7767 God talked to Adam regularly all Adam would have to do is ask.

And…what’s ur point

Adam and Eve knew the righteous things in which the Spirit of God Almighty had them clothed in to exist as perfect Man on Planet Earth but the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was revealing to them spiritually. the Science or knowledge which God Alm1ighty did not logically wanted them to know because God Almighty knew that it would corrupt their Perfect Soul! That knowledge of Good was deceptive and the Evil was downright bad

I would be interested in hearing any thoughts you have, even if they are currently only half-baked.

@deanfry879 Thank you for taking the time to respond, I appreciate that. I apologize if I sounded angry, it's just that I am seeing more and more that Christian culture is awash in party lines that many believe that the Spirit of Truth does not condone. This is one of them. The knowledge of good and evil is a source of spiritual sustenance just as Christ is (John 6). Adam and Eve were partaking of Christ/God as their source of spiritual sustenance before they partook of the knowledge of good and evil. The disastrous results were, and are, evident. It still applies today. Human beings can either partake of Jesus Christ as their source of life and strength and peace etc, or the knowledge of good and evil. And each has the same effect today as they did then. Constant fighting and arguing over who is good and who is not in the church and outside of the church, on a personal level, on a cultural level, on a racial level, on a philosophical level, on a political level, on a denominational level, and on a national level is still causing spiritual death in people today, just as it did then. What's the alternative? Partaking of Christ, who unites us in love, which produces life. When God tells us to either do something or not do something, He has VERY good reasons. It's the same as if I tell a child, "Don't eat too much sugar, or you'll have any number of health problems. The SUBSTANCE of the disobedience was JUST AS MUCH OF A PROBLEM AS THE DISOBEDIENCE WAS.

Well if God is life itself (He’s literally eternal), and they make a choice apart from God, they’ve chosen the opposite of life- which is death. Makes sense when you think about it actually.

What will be life without knowing good? It would be a life of innocence, a life like a child, a life pleasing to God. Because a child only depend and trust his Father's love and goodness. This was the life that Satan destroyed, he destroyed the innocence of Eve, and tempted Adam to willingly disobey the Father's command. God put the Tree of Life too, why? For Adam and Eve to reach theosis. But Adam failed. And so, God had to send the Logos. Theosis: "God became man so that man shall become gods." - Athanasius But what if Adam and Eve had not fall, will God still send Jesus? The Church Fathers saw Adam fall as "happy fault", why? It allows God to show His infinite mercy by sending Jesus as Redeemer. But we know that Adam had fallen, right? And so, the Subtle Doctor Bl.Dun Scotus teaches the Primacy of Jesus. That even if Adam did not fall, God will still send Jesus, but not as Redeemer but a King. Bottomline, the most important question in the whole universe, including the Heavenly realm is this, "What moved God in eternity, existing in infinite majesty and glory, to create the Beginning, the Heavens and the Earth? Answer: God in eternity started to entertain a divine thought... "What if I become a creature?" And God saw Himself like a liitle child, in the image of Jesus Christ, the King.of Kings. And the next divine thought, is a Woman, that would become a Mother, a Sovereign Queen. In eternity God saw Himself like a little and a helpless child carried in the arms of a loving Mother. And this image, the Madonna, gave deepest joy to God's heart. And so, God birthed or qanah a "Wisdom"/Proverbs8:22 how to realize his dream in eternity, the Madonna. The God of Love begin to desire, begin to dream in eternity That's Mary is higher than all the angels combined, because She existed in the heart of God in eternity, before the angels was created, and Lucifer got humiliated after knowing the highest dignity of the chosen Woman. The God of Love desires to be loved by a chosen Woman, that would become His beloved daughter, beloved Mother and beloved Spouse. Mary is the loved of God in eternity, the reason why God created the Beginning, the Heavens and the Earth. "The Virgin is the Beginning."- Picarreta The God of Love created everything out of love. But love begins with a dream. What is God's dream in eternity? To experience the love of a daughter, Mother and Spouse. Mary the chosen Woman became the.. beloved daughter of the Father beloved Mother of the Son and beloved Spouse of the Holy Spirit. Mary became the beloved of the Most Holy Trinity, and the dream of God has been fulfilled. And so, God crowned Mary, after She was assumed into Heaven, the Sovereign Queen of Heaven and Earth. Ave!

@@jongricafort4 At first I thought you were going to lecture me with some elementary theology, but you soon proved me wrong. By putting words in God's mouth, by adoring a queen of Heaven, and so on from there, you preached a false gospel. You therefore are declared anathema by the Scriptures, and you mut repent of that paganism.

@@joshuakarr-BibleMan Genesis3:15 abd Revelation12:1 wont agree with your empty anathema. Even Jesus Himself wont agree with your empty anathema, in John2:4 and the agonizing Christ at the Foot of the Cross.-John19:26-27 Behold the lowly handmaid, the chosen Woman, my beloved Mother, crowned by the Most Holy Trinity as Sovereign Queen of Heaven and Earth, that all angels must bow down like St.Gabriel had shown in the gospel of Luke. From lowly handmaid, the chosen Woman was crowned with twelve stars with the moon under Her feet, the feet that will crush the ugly proud head of Satan. Ave!

@@jongricafort4 There is no queen of Heaven. God never tells us what He was up to before He created the universe. In James 1:18, He tells us we were born to be a kind of firstfruits of all His creation. We are the pinnacle, not a woman. Wherever you get these ideas from, you need to check them against Scripture.

@@joshuakarr-BibleMan False gospel? What does the gospel teaches? Obedience to God's Will, right? Did Mary obeys God's Will? Yes! Fiat. What is salvation according to the gospel of Christ? Answer: The blood of Jesus that saves us came from the three drops of blood, taken from Mary's Immaculate Heart. The gospel that Jesus preaches, invite all men to follow Him and embrace the Way of the Cross. Did Mary follow Jesus and embrace the Way of the Cross? Yes! Mary is the perfect disciple of Christ, who not only followed Jesus but more so, accompanied Him from womb to tomb. And Mary not just embraced the Way of the Cross..Mary is the Tree of Life and the Cross of Christ. "We adore you O'Christ and we praise you, because by your Holy Mother/Holy Cross you had redeemed the world." "Wisdom is the Cross and the Cross is Wisdom."- St.Montfort Mary is the Cross and Mary ia Wisdom, the Seat of Wisdom. Ave!

Also another point they can’t answer. God being the supreme being knowing the past,present and future. Failed to brief Eve that lucifer was in the garden and will try and tempt her to disobey. You may want to stay away?? 😅😅😅

@@loudman12 And it’s not clear whether the snake was the devil or not. It’s not stated in the story.

So you believe in the New Jerusalem (MOUNT ZION) where only the Glory of Jesus Christ will be the light of the WORLD that the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil will still exist?

When you have examinations for the academics like GCE or LCC or the CXC that the TEST PAPERS remain for you to be continually tested on?

Except they didn’t fully understand the consequences. God LIED and said they would surely die. If he was speaking figuratively, like a spiritual death, then that was really sh!tty of him. As a supposedly loving father it was his responsibility to make sure they FULLY UNDERSTOOD the TRUE and FULL consequences of disobedience. 100% God’s fault. 100%. It’s amazing so many Christians can’t see that. The story makes no sense.

PROVERBS 3:5-6 Trust in the Lord with all your heart, And lean not on your own understanding; 6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall direct your paths.🕊

God is responsible for the *FACT* of free-will, humans are responsible for their *ACTS* of free-will.

@@zxx5 Yes totally agree but that's not an answer to my question

In order to put His attributes on display and bring Himself glory through redeeming those who would believe (although He brings Himself glory through the just punishment of the wicked too)

Hello folks I must stop you in your tracks..............We have not become gods yet otherwise we HUMANS would have known after two thousand years the secrets of how to build the Great Pyrimids and all the other giant structures of this earth!...and even on Mars as well as on Alpha Centuri!!! By now you would know what is the meaning of the Crop Circles and we by now would have been able to create Mankind and other kinds of beings in our own image!!! Come now how can you say that since Adam we are now gods? Of course God Almighty does not have anything really to do with the Politics of Nations of the Earth, only Mankind does but God Almighty has his Angels in Earth's domain to control so that Man does not go so far out of line to cause the Third World War!

First you say you can’t measure God with your brain and then immediately go on to say things about God and what he knows (using your own brain). Way to go, you win the internet.

bc all men would fall, no waiting needed... He fix that; by sending Himself as Christ (human) and sacrifice Himself for us. all we have to do is believe in that and His word (Holy Bible).

If God foreknew Adam’s sin and all that would result from this, it would mean that by creating Adam, God deliberately set in motion all the wickedness committed in human history. He would be the source of all the wars, crime, and death. So he didn’t know what was going to happen; he wanted Adam and Eve to live forever in Paradise.

Maybe, just like with Job, there was some sort of bet between God and Satan. Adam became subject to the death penalty because of his snack, but so did Satan for tempting him.

I agree on most of what the responder has said but some lines bring my response further. First of all GOD ALMIGHTY is not JESUS CHRIST!

@@user-lk2bz1oq2u Whichever side of that is wrong is insulting the Lord. May the Lord grant mercy.

I think of the fire analogy. You won't know until you touch it for yourself. You may have been told to not touch it for it is hot, but in going against the precaution you find out. I hope this helps. I'm going through a similar journey in finding answers on questions that plague me 😊.

@@chwig7354No Eva is right, it’s a clear contradiction.

The "fruit" was from the fig three. Think male testicles dangling from the tree.

So? That deserves dire eternal consequences?? God can’t forgive his naive children who are clueless compared to him??

@@Ragnar-Lothbrok967 Any excuse is better than no excuse and that can be applied to the God that supposedly Created his first Flaw called Adam . Your God created a man without a mate and didn't apply the same common sense ( knowledge ) when Nature was created , Adam finally realized that he was all alone after he sat his Naked Ass on a fallen tree and saw and heard the life that surrounded him , he saw that the life of nature was able to reproduce and he could not . Cluelessness started with the God you believe in and the only reason why human beings have Free Will is that Nature is Governed by Instinct and people have Free Will .

They had free will, why didn't Adam burn the tree?

In response to this statement I will simply say that Adam and Eve will never be first or last because they lost their RIGHT to even live forever when the flaning sword was placed spinning before the TREE OF LIFE! The first couple or I should say that the first three perfect beings in the Garden of Eden will never go to Heaven nor see the Holy City of God Almighty (NEW JERUSALEM)!

To explain further Adam, Eve, nor Lilith will ever go to HEAVEN or be on the New Perfect Earth!!!

So what, God permitted it so he’s equally as culpable.

Exactly, they were made with a sinful nature and the one who made them punished them for it.

How does this video make it seem like God forced Adam and Eve to do anything when it clearly states several times that it was about the choice of their own free will?

The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil symbolizes the "womb of Eve"", and her fruit was Cain. The Treeof Life symbolizes the womb of Mary, and Her fruit was Jesus. St.Gabriel and Lucifer were both a cherub, from the choir of Cherubim. Satan/fallen Lucifer greeted Eve and said, "You are chosen by God to bear the "Wisdom of God", and Eve asked, how can it be? Satan answered, by sexual procreation... And Satan indwelling the serpent who originally have arms and legs and organ, tried to caress Eve, and eventually defiled the sacred womb of Eve. And then, later on, Eve having infected with the malice of Satan, because Satan had "touched" her virginity... Adam seeing Eve in a fallen state, out of love for Eve, was also tempted to commit the "sexual sins". Proof? Look at the punishment given by God to Eve, its about having pangs when giving birth. And to Adam, since he indulge in pleasure of the flesh, have to sweat his brow, and this is no longer pleasurable to flesh. Satan breathed his malice or touch the womb of Eve that defiled his virginity, while Adam had fallen into sexual lust thinking they can bear a fruit, the Wisdom of God. But this is Satan deceptions on Eve. Mary the New Eve, was also greetes by a cherub, and said, She is the chosen one to bear the Wisdom of God or the incarnated Logos. "Blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus." Again, the womb of Eve symbolizes the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil and her fruit was Cain, that John8:44 attributed to Satan, bcoz Cain became a murderer like Satan. While Mary the New Eve, Her womb symbolizes the Treeof Life, and Her fruit was Jesus the Author of Life. Adam and Eve committed the forbidden "sexual procreation" right in the garden of Eden, a Temple of God. Thats why the punishment written in Genesis3:16-ff is about pain of giving birth and hard labor for Adam, because he indulge in pleasures of the flesh. This profound mystery is only for matured Christian, and not for baby christian. Ave!

@@jongricafort4 That’s a pretty hefty dose of eisegetical interpretation there my friend

No like Adam and Eve had a choice using their own free will, and made the wrong choice. So to does everyone on earth, have the same choice To ever choose God and everlasting life or choose evil and perish through our own choice, it's that simple a child can understand, we are all sinners and need to acknowledge this fact and make the right choice, by choosing to turn back to God and live.

God is responsible for the *FACT* of free-will, humans are responsible for their *ACTS* of free-will..

Lucifer isn’t actually mentioned in the story. It is just assumed the snake is the devil.

You can but you need a magic axe. 🪓