Why did Putin give Prigozhin a pass and how safe is he? | DW News

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11 ай бұрын

Belarus says its leader Alexander Lukashenko has held another phone call with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin - a day after a short-lived armed uprising ended with the head of the Wagner mercenary group ordering his troops to stand down. Lukashenko has been credited with brokering the deal that aborted Yevgeny Prigozhin's uprising.
Prigozhin appears to have agreed to go into exile in Belarus, in exchange for insurrection charges against him being dropped. Many questions remain. Prigozhin's current whereabouts are unknown. Let's take a look at the extraordinary events in southern Russia this weekend.
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@user-or7wv2jq3t
@user-or7wv2jq3t 11 ай бұрын
"no one will execute them" that sounds very assuring.
@novemberalpha6023
@novemberalpha6023 11 ай бұрын
You can't blame FSB or GRU If any Wagner got choked on his tea or slipped out of the window.
@usver911
@usver911 11 ай бұрын
@@novemberalpha6023 It looks more like FSB and GRU need protection from wagner.
@jakewillsuffice6938
@jakewillsuffice6938 11 ай бұрын
They will be sent to the front with a pistol at best. Maybe bullets too.
@acidbot666
@acidbot666 11 ай бұрын
Vladimir Putin is a master of disguise and are fooling the west as easy as fooling small children... 🤣🤣🤣 This entire thing was nothing but a planed theatrical performance to confuse the Anglo Saxons and convey a message of chaos in Russia... As simple as that! And it is working like a dream... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Vladimir Putin is a genius worth several Oscar Statues!
@jayrock363
@jayrock363 11 ай бұрын
No will get executed is true now a special slipping out a 10 story high window accident is more likely
@bolshoibooze8010
@bolshoibooze8010 11 ай бұрын
He'll get his back stab. Never trust Putin's promise.
@SimonAZ
@SimonAZ 11 ай бұрын
He probably drink something that makes him feel weird the coming weeks.
@CyberBeep_kenshi
@CyberBeep_kenshi 11 ай бұрын
Oh he is finished for sure. He should have tried harder lol.
@lll32151
@lll32151 11 ай бұрын
@@SimonAZ A hot cup of Uncle Putin's Polonium Tea will send him for an eternal sleep.
@efanferdiantowibowo9610
@efanferdiantowibowo9610 11 ай бұрын
If you go for the king, you better not miss
@The13thRonin
@The13thRonin 11 ай бұрын
In the Game of Thrones. You Ukraine or you die.
@reggie7956
@reggie7956 11 ай бұрын
Condolences to Prigozhin’s loved ones. Accidentally falling out of a ten story window is a heck of a way to go. 😔
@jamesnguyen7069
@jamesnguyen7069 11 ай бұрын
everyone that high fived 'zhin yesterday have not seen the daylight today. or ever.
@jamesparker1071
@jamesparker1071 11 ай бұрын
Keep an eye on Hillary. She has history.
@mishahlamazda5812
@mishahlamazda5812 11 ай бұрын
Wait, did this already happen?
@reggie7956
@reggie7956 11 ай бұрын
@@mishahlamazda5812 I like to get things done ahead of time when possible.
@beeazy2847
@beeazy2847 11 ай бұрын
Some would say he deserves to die if he actually goes to Belarus. If it was me, id already have my family in a different continent. He wont think to look in Toronto or Nigeria. 😂😂😂
@spiralflame88
@spiralflame88 11 ай бұрын
I would be pretty damn surprised if Prigozhin makes it to Belarus.
@NBK570
@NBK570 11 ай бұрын
He’s already there
@phil20_20
@phil20_20 11 ай бұрын
But he might! 😅
@sleeper9728
@sleeper9728 11 ай бұрын
HE WILL GET POISONED SOON
@SimonAZ
@SimonAZ 11 ай бұрын
I don't think he will go there either. Maybe Dubai?
@SeeLasSee
@SeeLasSee 11 ай бұрын
Assuming Putin remains in power he may be spared until the war is over. They don’t want to undermine the fighting spirit and create greater rifts. They need Wagner and supporters.
@LeeGoGators
@LeeGoGators 11 ай бұрын
Prigozhin has to have some type of leverage if he thinks he’s going to survive
@michaelholopainen2822
@michaelholopainen2822 11 ай бұрын
No he just need to keep following Putins orders, like he has done so far, by faking a coup to make ti appear Wagner in no longer under Putin's direct command so that when Wagner moves into Belarus where Putin conveniently just few weeks ago moved nuclear missiles, if Wagner "captures" the missiels and launches them at NATO countries it would not APPEAR to be done on Putin's order.
@jonathanhuang2955
@jonathanhuang2955 11 ай бұрын
Forgiveness and forgetfulness have never been in Putin’s vocabulary
@andrewdgw6779
@andrewdgw6779 11 ай бұрын
He clearly does have that leverage
@WallyHays
@WallyHays 11 ай бұрын
Pee pee tape 😂
@asmuel
@asmuel 11 ай бұрын
Putin is ex kgb, Prigozhin is a dead ex hot-dog salesman.
@DiazGee
@DiazGee 11 ай бұрын
"I don't need ammunition, I need a ride." - Putin
@linkmeforfun
@linkmeforfun 11 ай бұрын
"I don't need clutches, I need to fall down" - Biden.
@roselandebazelais8236
@roselandebazelais8236 11 ай бұрын
@@linkmeforfun At least,he is more in control of his country.
@tonynelson2443
@tonynelson2443 11 ай бұрын
The check from Langley bounced 🤣🤣🤣
@ForTheWhalez
@ForTheWhalez 11 ай бұрын
“Moving from Russia to Belarus is like moving from the ground floor of the Gambino family mansion to the first floor.” 😂😂😂
@killerbeen773
@killerbeen773 11 ай бұрын
😅😅😅
@kmg474
@kmg474 11 ай бұрын
Ground floor to the basement more like.
@leonardsingletary7262
@leonardsingletary7262 11 ай бұрын
Nothing is going to happen to Putin or Prigozhin. This is just how it works. No one wants a civil war in their country.
@angelcabeza6464
@angelcabeza6464 11 ай бұрын
​@@rafaelw8115the deal is Putin is weak AF bro
@michaelholopainen2822
@michaelholopainen2822 11 ай бұрын
...if the first floor just conveniently got nuclear missiles moved into it just few weeks ago.
@hoodiemike2816
@hoodiemike2816 11 ай бұрын
In a week u will hear about how prigozhin fell down a flight of stairs and broke his neck and poison was found in his body his death will be called an accident
@Dave102693
@Dave102693 11 ай бұрын
@@UncleSam7.62😂😂😂
@pollyskirt1
@pollyskirt1 11 ай бұрын
0r an unfortunate car accident.😮
@shlmel
@shlmel 11 ай бұрын
A lot of thorough information 👏👏🏿👏🏻👏🏾👏🏼👏🏽
@vijaydattatraypatil3420
@vijaydattatraypatil3420 11 ай бұрын
A faithful trusty friend in need turned foe for sometime and he realised that, 'a friend in need is friend indeed' and thus rectified his miskate. All is well and ended well.
@michaelmartin4366
@michaelmartin4366 11 ай бұрын
If he thinks he's safe going into exile in Belarus, then he's about as bright as a Mushroom. He'll be 6ft under sometime in the near future.
@SunKing968
@SunKing968 11 ай бұрын
The truth behind the scenes is that this entire drama was Prigozhin's thinly-veiled attempt to atone for his subpar cooking during his Kremlin catering days....but some things can never be forgiven.
@dingaling487
@dingaling487 11 ай бұрын
This is the most likely explanation
@OLDMANTEA
@OLDMANTEA 11 ай бұрын
Especially if one messes up the borscht
@johansmallberries9874
@johansmallberries9874 11 ай бұрын
Come to think, most chefs I’ve known probably had “mad warlord” as a plan B career path.
@SunKing968
@SunKing968 11 ай бұрын
@@johansmallberries9874 Great point! The connection is there!
@wegder
@wegder 11 ай бұрын
If it went down the way it looked, i can't believe that Prigozhin will be around much longer even if he never says another word.
@shivaverla
@shivaverla 11 ай бұрын
Current situation in Russia : There are decades where nothing happens; and there are weeks where decades happen"
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 11 ай бұрын
Or single days where decades happen in this case
@frostedbuds
@frostedbuds 11 ай бұрын
Putin: Everyone will be brought to justice Also Putin: Everyone has been pardoned
@Harrier_DuBois
@Harrier_DuBois 11 ай бұрын
5d chess if you believe the sycophants 😂
@Ivan-ye8ud
@Ivan-ye8ud 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@D_isco_D_ancer
@D_isco_D_ancer 11 ай бұрын
Swift Russian justice
@erikrobillard6950
@erikrobillard6950 11 ай бұрын
if it was not a friend, he will be dead already
@tomw9599
@tomw9599 11 ай бұрын
People are considered weak if there is a peaceful conclusion. Too bad Biden is so macho or we would of had no war to begin with. But hey, no big deal. They are only Ukrainians dying not Americans.
@michaelklingenberg7872
@michaelklingenberg7872 11 ай бұрын
This man better not stand close to any stairs or windows...and NEVER drink anything offered to him
@tutsecret499
@tutsecret499 11 ай бұрын
Do you know the story of the Russian couple that was in England that just touched their front door knob and they got contaminated with poison. Read it about it. So it does not need to be by windows. Just touching surfaces. A guy that is a criminal and helped by Putin to be succeed in life, be rich, and them betrays Putin. Nobody would forgive this. The biggest mistake of Putin was invading Ukraine, mistreat the Russian soldiers and investing on criminal guy giving him everything. Recipe for disaster.
@annehersey9895
@annehersey9895 11 ай бұрын
A whole new round of people jumping out of windows is to follow!
@uniquehorn1480
@uniquehorn1480 11 ай бұрын
Russia is "a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma," as Churchill said.
@mindscape970
@mindscape970 11 ай бұрын
There is no second chance here. No one wants to leave a lose end. This is the end of Wagner.
@michaelholopainen2822
@michaelholopainen2822 11 ай бұрын
No ,the end of Wagner is when Prigorzin cashes in and "captures" the nuclear missiels Putin just moved into Belarus for him to launch. That will make Prigorzin multi-billinaire (by Putin) he the nmoves to safe place in Russia while everyone else in Wagner will take the blame and will be killed.
@Cybella
@Cybella 11 ай бұрын
What a dummy, he could have ended this Ukraine conflict and became the new President but got duped.
@deker0954
@deker0954 11 ай бұрын
Na, it's the end of Putin.
@darthslackus499
@darthslackus499 11 ай бұрын
Later: Prigozhin fell from a 1st story window while staying at Hotel Belarus. Sadly, it was fatal.
@TheBHAitken
@TheBHAitken 11 ай бұрын
I just can't help thinking that in the past week Belarus got itself nuclear weapons and a hardened mercenary outfit.
@tinyikomaluleke3594
@tinyikomaluleke3594 11 ай бұрын
Your so correct
@Mighty_Atheismo
@Mighty_Atheismo 11 ай бұрын
This series makes Succession look like a kids show.
@Ivan-ye8ud
@Ivan-ye8ud 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@theiranianputin2770
@theiranianputin2770 11 ай бұрын
Those weren't tanks, APCs, IFVs, trucks full of soldiers. Those are Prigozhin's Staff for the new Catering service he's opening up in Rostov.
@Lonsoleil
@Lonsoleil 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@Nikowalker007
@Nikowalker007 11 ай бұрын
Cooks, Waitresses and dishwashers
@marktwain5232
@marktwain5232 11 ай бұрын
New hot dog street vendors.
@gianador2556
@gianador2556 11 ай бұрын
I got the feeling like this is some kind of "to fool your enemies you must first fool your allies" thing, could be that its some kind of strategic move to move troops to Belarus and open a new front there, idk 🤷‍♂️
@raisagorbachov
@raisagorbachov 11 ай бұрын
The more I hear, the moreI realise there''s more we don't know.I have a feeling this is all a blind for something else.
@1982asd
@1982asd 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't guarantee that he would survive if this show was serious
@First-Last_name
@First-Last_name 11 ай бұрын
Heads of mercenary groups don't often have strong life guarantees
@seamusohoulihan666
@seamusohoulihan666 11 ай бұрын
He's a dead man.... He will be killed in Belarus at some point
@fabricio4794
@fabricio4794 11 ай бұрын
my guess is he is hinding on some Pacific island right now....silly chiefs accept russian loialty
@NBK570
@NBK570 11 ай бұрын
Prigozhin: it’s just a prank bro The prank
@larrynance8134
@larrynance8134 11 ай бұрын
Prighozin is not naive, he will never let his troops leave his sight, he needs protection now more than ever
@linkmeforfun
@linkmeforfun 11 ай бұрын
"His troops"? Prighozin has no troops. He is simply a civilian leader. Most of the troops are Russian soldiers. These "troops" are armed, uniformed, and paid for by the Russian government. He will go to Belaruss as an individual, not as a leader of Wagner.
@roselandebazelais8236
@roselandebazelais8236 11 ай бұрын
@@linkmeforfun He does have an army in other countries.
@BabySkinCondom
@BabySkinCondom 11 ай бұрын
those troops aren't going to be able to protect him when he takes a sip of polonium flavored tea lol
@larrynance8134
@larrynance8134 11 ай бұрын
I don’t know. He’s been to war with these troops , he has their loyalty. I think he’s a billionaire himself
@tongpo826
@tongpo826 11 ай бұрын
​@@BabySkinCondom told The Same Thing at Work today!
@marymatthews678
@marymatthews678 11 ай бұрын
Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
@drsuzuki6506
@drsuzuki6506 11 ай бұрын
My advice to Prigozhin would be to find an apartment building with something available on the first floor. Steer clear of balcony apartments!
@stringer-ik1pc
@stringer-ik1pc 11 ай бұрын
The fact that they need mercenaries tells you all you need to know. Weak.
@chrisb3976
@chrisb3976 11 ай бұрын
Putin didnt give Prigozhin a pass. He gave Prigozhin a destination for his death.
@cookiecola5852
@cookiecola5852 11 ай бұрын
Doubt it actually, leaving him alive is Putin only option, if another rebellion starts he’ll have to show that he is trustworthy, if he kills him other rebellions wont seek compromise but only his death This wasnt an option for Putin all terrible options, but he decided to not make a bigger trouble then it was
@novus1589
@novus1589 11 ай бұрын
@@latinokid33 What makes you think he's not going to kill Prigo?
@frederikpedersen689
@frederikpedersen689 11 ай бұрын
no putin scared and gave prigozhin pass... thats reality
@Admiral-General_Aladeen
@Admiral-General_Aladeen 11 ай бұрын
Huge chance missed by Progo
@jand1144
@jand1144 11 ай бұрын
Preach 💯
@thevoxdeus
@thevoxdeus 11 ай бұрын
"Hey, who left this window here?"
@Lyndonkabillion
@Lyndonkabillion 11 ай бұрын
Good communication guys!
@jeromehollingsworth4027
@jeromehollingsworth4027 11 ай бұрын
If I was him? I definitely would know that my life is in danger after what he did to Putin.
@craigharrison5406
@craigharrison5406 11 ай бұрын
The problem is he is a star now among the Russian people and Putin doesn't want to piss off the entire country more than it already is by killing Prigozhin.
@qzorn4440
@qzorn4440 11 ай бұрын
Wagner in Africa, his last strong hole.
@acidbot666
@acidbot666 11 ай бұрын
Vladimir Putin is a master of disguise and are fooling the west as easy as fooling small children... 🤣🤣🤣 This entire thing was nothing but a planed theatrical performance to confuse the Anglo Saxons and convey a message of chaos in Russia... As simple as that! And it is working like a dream... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Vladimir Putin is a genius worth several Oscar Statues!
@randomgrinn
@randomgrinn 11 ай бұрын
If any evil dictator knows your name, then your life is in danger, period. Doesn't matter if you are their mother or their best friend. Anyone an evil dictator is aware of should hide immediately. If Putin offered me a billion dollars to be his top general, I would run to the most remote jungle I could find.
@joemammon6149
@joemammon6149 11 ай бұрын
if it's a complicated psyop, then Prigozhin will be fine.
@cwwiss1
@cwwiss1 11 ай бұрын
It's not the Russian way to let your enemies live after showing their disloyalty.
@The13thRonin
@The13thRonin 11 ай бұрын
But it is the Russian way to 'win' a war by suiciding half your entire population into enemy lines.
@DRob-gq3ki
@DRob-gq3ki 11 ай бұрын
Putin will probably tell him that him and his mercenaries need to take kyiv by themselves through belarus.
@deker0954
@deker0954 11 ай бұрын
And yet Wagner let Putin live.
@deker0954
@deker0954 11 ай бұрын
Putin had Wagner attacked with artillery fire some days ago.
@mrbrainnyc258
@mrbrainnyc258 11 ай бұрын
Putin on Fri: They will be punished! Putin on Sat : They will be pardoned!
@Wraith-Knight
@Wraith-Knight 11 ай бұрын
there going to be lots of people falling out of windows
@CSGATI
@CSGATI 11 ай бұрын
Prigozhin better watch his back. Putins enemies have very bad luck.
@kirtwilliamswilliams5280
@kirtwilliamswilliams5280 11 ай бұрын
Russia cannot afford to lose Wagner or Russian soldiers at this point they need each other
@rouz0
@rouz0 11 ай бұрын
he was exiled and the Wagner as had been planned previously before his attempt will go under direct Russian military of defence. However, I think those who participated in this mutiny can't join anymore. Prigo was fighting to remain as the head of Wagner and keep Wagner as a private army. The plan to get the Wagner from him was already in process. Most people don't know that Prigo is an appointee and does not own Wagner in practice. Wagner was made by Russian intelligence and should be assigned to somebody as Russian law does not allow the private army, if Wagner members want to operate on Russian soil they need to have a contract with the Russian military and not be a private entity.
@kirtwilliamswilliams5280
@kirtwilliamswilliams5280 11 ай бұрын
@@royetapasta427 just shifting them to Belarus to work with the Belarusans to attack Kyiv from the north
@tr1bes
@tr1bes 11 ай бұрын
​​@@rouz0nteresting. Something doesn't add up recently. On June 12, 2023, Chechen force sign contract with the Russian when most of the Wagner left Ukraine. It seems like there are bad bloods between the Russian military and Wagner. Also, Prigo does not want to be under the Russian military and would have to give his whole company to Russia. He needs to make money somehow. Prigo probably know that the Russian military is currupted.
@LCCWPresents
@LCCWPresents 11 ай бұрын
Maybe after the war the Wagner group will be quirky disbanded because of this. It’s going to be hard to disband them across Africa, so the Wagner group in Africa might rebrand, splinter, or do something else.
@khiem1939
@khiem1939 11 ай бұрын
@@kirtwilliamswilliams5280 Wrong, Prigozhin is going to Belarus, the Wagner Group is going into the Russian Armed Forces as cannon fodder!
@Chibby-Chubby
@Chibby-Chubby 11 ай бұрын
Turns out the bunker guy does negotiate with "terrorists."
@jamesparker1071
@jamesparker1071 11 ай бұрын
Where there is smoke there are mirrors.
@riariaria
@riariaria 11 ай бұрын
Putin realizing that he doesn’t need ammo but he really could use a ride. 😂
@suzyqualcast6269
@suzyqualcast6269 11 ай бұрын
Unlike the Russian soldiers who were denied the ammo and supplies and then, in turn, Prigos Mercenary Soldaten who found themselves similarly denied when in direct need whilst the supplying generals turned that 'support' into roubles etc into their own pockets rather than where needed. Thank God.
@JFTW1337
@JFTW1337 11 ай бұрын
yeah like that hasnt been said before
@marcusmcmahon5414
@marcusmcmahon5414 11 ай бұрын
That phrase wasn't funny 1000 times ago
@paulburton8264
@paulburton8264 11 ай бұрын
Putin ran out of Moscow, terrified. Now who was the leader when his country was attacked by this war criminal who has stayed with his people and lead the charge against the murdering, raping, war criminals.
@arvothomson9339
@arvothomson9339 11 ай бұрын
@@marcusmcmahon5414 why would ye read the same phrase 1000 times? not very smart?
@SkyeRangerNick
@SkyeRangerNick 11 ай бұрын
I think we can expect the unexpected. This seems too eruptive to be a simple hand of cards.
@PtolemyJones
@PtolemyJones 11 ай бұрын
Prigozhin clearly expected to see the regular Army to rise up on his side, but was disappointed.
@WilliamNeacy
@WilliamNeacy 11 ай бұрын
None of this makes sense. You start something like that just to give up less than 24 hours later? This isn't over.
@dh1380
@dh1380 11 ай бұрын
The cyclist at the start said something interesting. "People in my opinion supported them." That is veiled dissent against Putin and most Russians previously would not have felt emboldened to say such a thing. It doesn't stop Russia being an absolute cesspit though but is interesting to note 🤔
@cageybee7221
@cageybee7221 11 ай бұрын
people literally cheered for them as they marched on Rostov, that's a HORRIBLE sign for putin.
@dh1380
@dh1380 11 ай бұрын
@cageybee7221 it is and given how horrible Wagner is it shows how low Russia has sunk, not that it had far to go. Rostov is a pretty big deal in terms of centres of power in Russia.
@jmhorange
@jmhorange 11 ай бұрын
​@@cageybee7221people cheered Trump. Citizens cheering don't mean a whole country supports him. By all accounts, prigozhin didn't have the support he was hoping for and gave up.
@SimonAZ
@SimonAZ 11 ай бұрын
Putin has an issue with Prigohzin, not with the Wagner soldiers he needs for the war so I doubt this is veiled dissident.
@dh1380
@dh1380 11 ай бұрын
@jodiehudson1830 agreed but comparing the US and Russia is absurd. Either way it represents an appetite for change be it for better or worse and in Russia in particular this represents an emboldening of the population.
@keithhoss4990
@keithhoss4990 11 ай бұрын
Prigozhin will probably be ok be Putin still needs his armies in other parts of the world besides Ukraine. I fear that many of the troops who were marching on Moscow will not be so lucky and be “made examples of.”
@filipe5722
@filipe5722 11 ай бұрын
It wouldn't be the first time. Akhmad Kadyrov was a Chechen rebel who switched sides and now his son is one of the most loyal Putin's dog.
@suzyqualcast6269
@suzyqualcast6269 11 ай бұрын
Exactly. - how can possibly subversive elements from a superior military force be absorbed into a regular, conscripted, impressionable armed of wide eyes ¿? Mercenaries to regulars, no, it doesn't work that way. Soldaten of fortune arise from previously conscripted Joe's who got wise n went 'wild'.
@GTAMW3.
@GTAMW3. 11 ай бұрын
The troops got exiled aswell
@filipe5722
@filipe5722 11 ай бұрын
@@GTAMW3. That was not the information that was transmited.
@ytsux9259
@ytsux9259 11 ай бұрын
Prigo is just a CEO boy; he can easily be replaced by another.
@christopherrichardwadedett4100
@christopherrichardwadedett4100 11 ай бұрын
Mercenaries are very loyal and useful to the highest bidder
@sergiopalomo1671
@sergiopalomo1671 11 ай бұрын
I won’t be surprised to hear another window accident!
@danduzenski3597
@danduzenski3597 11 ай бұрын
Such weakness. Still leg slapping belly laughing at putin.
@Writeous0ne
@Writeous0ne 11 ай бұрын
Why didn't the Russian people revolt and support Wagner in the coup? Because they support Putin.
@Ivan-ye8ud
@Ivan-ye8ud 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Perspectiveon
@Perspectiveon 11 ай бұрын
My guess is Prigoshins fate will be similar to that of Rommel.
@edwardbella3871
@edwardbella3871 11 ай бұрын
Somebody is going to get hurt.
@abcdef-qk6jf
@abcdef-qk6jf 11 ай бұрын
He's very safe - he's even invited for tea...
@dawei7
@dawei7 11 ай бұрын
It remembers me of the Roman empire, when a Roman Legion marches towards Rome. The Pretorians are the National Guard.
@ThWKrapf
@ThWKrapf 11 ай бұрын
Hello, a former General of the German army, Mr Karter; had another suspicion today. He said, the way it went, was very surprising and rises the suspicion, that this was a screenplay with real weapons. As said, there was no real resistance, followed by this general amnesty for the whole Wagner PMC. The shot down aircrafts and other things were necessary sacrifices to get some kind of creditibility. And now Mr Karter's idea: He suspects, that this could be a hidden deployment of Wagner PMC in Belarus. All heavy vehicles and men are still mounted and supplied for several days. This would mean, that the Russian Federation would have about 65 k men in Belarus in future. A formidable force, to be a real threat to the northern flank of Ukraine and, again Kiev. And these forces wouldn't be on a three day journey to Ukraine, but a battle hardened iron fist on the third front. They possibly only wait for the order from Moscow. For Lukashenko, Prighoshin and Putin this is a win-win-situation: Lukaschenko is not forced to bring in his own troops, Prighoshin can again serve mother Russia and Putin/the MOD have a third front to split Ukrainean forces. Putting all aspects together, this option seems to be rather plausible. Regards Th. Krapf
@zazhou
@zazhou 11 ай бұрын
Yes, this is a definite possibility, a joint ruse between the three russian leaders.
@raymondparnell439
@raymondparnell439 11 ай бұрын
😂😂your of your face . Wagner ran away . Mod tried to stop them they shot at them layed mi e fields etc . Prigozen has said Ukraine is like Russia on Ww2 . No your completely insane . If all this was done just to move a few troops then thst is a sad state of military affairs for Russia. Must be them storm shadows 😂😂😂Russia just humiliated itself in front of the whole workd it looks so weak to think they did this on purpose is ridonkilous
@dubinatub1
@dubinatub1 11 ай бұрын
If Putin was running on full strength which clearly he isn't I would agree. But his standing is to compromise already
@WithmeVerissimusWhostoned
@WithmeVerissimusWhostoned 11 ай бұрын
That's exactly my theory also, all of this was a theatre for the West and Ukrainian leadership _(because way too many people want to believe Russia is weak, so Russians created a play of internal turmoil to feed that belief,.. and there's also something to be said about what Sun Tzu advised “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak”)._ I can only speculate as to what exactly the Wagner group would be tasked with, but my guess is that once Ukrainian offensive starts and bites into Russian defenses, Wagner group would enter Ukraine thru' the northern border with intent of getting behind Ukrainian offensive and disrupting supply lines or even mounting an attack from behind if possible... and if executed well it could be a check-mate for Ukraine. \o/
@SherwoodTravels
@SherwoodTravels 11 ай бұрын
But this can all be achieved without making Putin look weak. That’s the biggest problem with this hypothesis.
@Paul-cj1wb
@Paul-cj1wb 11 ай бұрын
It might be all a ruse. They want to attack Ukraine from the other side, from Belarus, and force them to fight on 2 fronts.
@nenitaprudenciado0855
@nenitaprudenciado0855 11 ай бұрын
Yes, that is a war strategy of Putin. They will attack Ukraine from two different directions.
@winlaw3571
@winlaw3571 11 ай бұрын
good analysis. Putin is great.
@artemj3811
@artemj3811 11 ай бұрын
why would Prigozhin organize an armed mutiny when he just could go without any scandals to Belarus and conduct an attack? No logic from you, mate
@marcom2248
@marcom2248 11 ай бұрын
To conquer Khiev could be his last chance to survive.
@larrymietusmd3299
@larrymietusmd3299 11 ай бұрын
I don’t think this is any exiled to Belarus. An angry Prigozhin was given a great prize to divert him from marching on Moscow. The man is smiling. I think Pregosian will take his Wagner army and attack Ukraine from the north, which is now more lightly defended. I suspect he has been offered presidency of Ukraine. If he succeeds in marching on Kyiv, this makes no sense otherwise.
@bertreynolds8146
@bertreynolds8146 11 ай бұрын
I feel bad for all those people that supported Wagner, thinking it might change something and then they just turned right back around lol
@Ivan-ye8ud
@Ivan-ye8ud 11 ай бұрын
Yes ☝️
@sagapoetic8990
@sagapoetic8990 11 ай бұрын
Why feel bad for the Wagner group? They are brutal, overpaid murderers.
@InfiniCalendar
@InfiniCalendar 11 ай бұрын
I don’t. They supported mass murderers. Wagner are monsters, make no mistake.
@ericeandco
@ericeandco 11 ай бұрын
Mercenaries don’t have loyalty. They’re fighting machine’s for whoever meets their price.
@sirseravelele8868
@sirseravelele8868 11 ай бұрын
Well they got played, over 6 Billion of USA's money gone, I hope it gets invested against them
@Allisvanity75
@Allisvanity75 11 ай бұрын
Smart monies is on pierogi falling out of a high window😂
@dipaculao1960
@dipaculao1960 11 ай бұрын
Those uncut are being circumcised. Te cut ones they are cutting the heads only.
@thomasngetich1425
@thomasngetich1425 11 ай бұрын
Prigozin was not given a pass I can bet a million dollars that he won't be alive by end of year
@Max_Jacoby
@Max_Jacoby 11 ай бұрын
He might put him in jail and nobody ask a question. Mutiny has a lifetime sentence.
@bbrebozo6417
@bbrebozo6417 11 ай бұрын
Lukashenko had greater ambitions before Putin was anointed by Yeltsin. If Putin does nothing, the ambitious will have the opportunity to coordinate for a future attempt. The biggest problem is it’s probably hard for them to trust each other. Prigozhin and Kadyrov are both a little volatile and Lukashenko knows this.
@charlessmith3940
@charlessmith3940 11 ай бұрын
Lukashenko can’t do anything in Europe . Even with Russia he’s limited. Without Russia he can’t fog a mirror
@Veroweithofer
@Veroweithofer 11 ай бұрын
Lukaschenko allegedly is sick. He might not have long left anyway
@detlef3000
@detlef3000 11 ай бұрын
I think it is possible that Prigozhin and Lukashenko are planning another coup together
@CynicallyObnoxious
@CynicallyObnoxious 11 ай бұрын
Luka is freaking out about Poland right now
@thetwotones232
@thetwotones232 11 ай бұрын
Prigozhin trains Belarusian military and now Belarus has better military because of it ?
@bobdillaber1195
@bobdillaber1195 11 ай бұрын
Gotta be a whole lot going on behind the scenes we have no idea of.
@genreaper
@genreaper 11 ай бұрын
They will now attack from the rear. Pincer move Parker.
@chrisbutcher5179
@chrisbutcher5179 11 ай бұрын
It was inevitable that Wagner would eventually have to face the music
@topweddingsa4059
@topweddingsa4059 11 ай бұрын
😂😀When Wagner gives western media an opportunity to celebrate after long year of stress....
@josephdykes1820
@josephdykes1820 11 ай бұрын
Many falling from windows or sudden unexplained heart attacks
@ronstoppable1133
@ronstoppable1133 11 ай бұрын
Very Game Of Thrones... I suppose Dragons were an analogy for Nuclear weapons? 😅
@stocrimonte5400
@stocrimonte5400 11 ай бұрын
I don't see how Prigozhin and his lieutenants are going to stay alive until the end of the year. An example will be made so that no one ever tries that again.
@tunny5802
@tunny5802 11 ай бұрын
No Wagner lieutenant supported Prigozhin, only 4,000 or more ordinary soldiers, and even most of them were not sure.
@murrayflewelling1258
@murrayflewelling1258 11 ай бұрын
Because you still do not see what is right in front of you......Somehow it is lost on many people that UAF has been able to target and eliminate more than a dozen Russian Generals and Kadyrov's right hand man , yet the Wagner leader has been in the most dangerous place in Ukraine for months , and not even injured !.........I was surprised at how easily the 2 Russian battalions fighting with Ukraine were able to enter Russia , stay for days , leave when they wanted and barely took losses.....This is the beginning of the real end for Putin.....The Wagner leader is very shrewd which has been proven repeatedly.....The fact that he accepted a deal and was able to leave will certainly make him a target , but anyone betting Putin lives longer really is lost on what is and has been happening !
@j2simpso
@j2simpso 11 ай бұрын
If Prigozhin is liquidated, so will Putin. Members of the Wagner group are loyal to their leader unlike the Russian military.
@Corrector-cq2ze
@Corrector-cq2ze 11 ай бұрын
The truth is that nobody knows what the deal between Putin and Prigozhin entails. However, Prigozhin is still in control of the Wagner Group which is still in the area near the Donbas. The Wagner group is not going to Belarus. Only Prigozhin (and hopefully for Prigozhin also a small contingent for his safety). Putin still needs the Wagner Group, and not all of them will be folded into the Russian military. Those that participated in the coup are exempt. Is the number 25.000 (those that entered Russia) or 4.000 (the size of the convoy) we don't know. But we do know it is a large enough number to continue to be a fighting force that Putin has to appease. The convoy to Moscow made it obvious that Russia has no fighting force in the rear to quickly mobilize. It can't just roll out a bridgade from a base near Moscow. Such a fighting force does not exist. Only police and gendarms were present to oppose the convey. A convoy of 4.000 veterans with armoured vehicles, IFV, T-90M tanks, Pantsir air defence and MLARS. The Russian air force could halt the progress, but they tried that by sending whatever they had at the problem which resulted in seven downed helicopters and one air plane, and a total 13 dead pilots. The writing is on the wall. Prigozhin could have caused chaos, but despite rolling with impunity towards Moscow for a long while, very few new soldiers joined him. So a popular revolt turned out to be unlikely and Prigozhin and Putin made a compromise to defuse the situation.
@honeriley
@honeriley 11 ай бұрын
Well written. What is the source for the info that the Wagner group shout down 7 Russian airforce helicopters and 1 plane killing a total of 13 pilots?
@Corrector-cq2ze
@Corrector-cq2ze 11 ай бұрын
@@honeriley Institute for the Study of War, which has based it on US military intelligence and russian war bloggers.
@francisdial3603
@francisdial3603 11 ай бұрын
SMS. Can't believe what really took place. Putin the lion became a pussycat 😂🤣🤣
@ernestojosesanchez1696
@ernestojosesanchez1696 11 ай бұрын
Everybody relax and take a second nothing seriously happens Vladimir Putin still Russia president , now everyone talking about putin look weak calm down people the war is not over yet.
@Corrector-cq2ze
@Corrector-cq2ze 11 ай бұрын
@@francisdial3603 Yes, the optics are bad. Russian war bloggers (who are not nobodies and have a certain sway with the Russian public) have criticized Putin hiding in bunker. The contrast to Zelensky staying in Kiev and visiting the front line makes it even worse for Putin.
@janislee7759
@janislee7759 11 ай бұрын
Progozhin is watching his back, waiting for Putin's henchmen to show up.
@chuonglongai870
@chuonglongai870 11 ай бұрын
• One might consider the possibility that the apparent conflict (between Prigozhin, the Russian military chiefs, and Putin) is a bit of theatre to distract attention, allowing Prigozhin to relocate to Belarus, while his forces appear to dissipate, but possibly intending to regroup in Belarus for another go at Kyiv, using equipment brought in with, or in the guise of, the tactical nukes. One might keep one’s eye on the ball.
@NielsPoulsen
@NielsPoulsen 11 ай бұрын
No way Prigozhin backed down for free. I do not think we have seen the last of him. I also think we will see changes to the Russian mod. But I guess time will tell 🤷‍♂️
@larryc1616
@larryc1616 11 ай бұрын
They promised him something big, but it's just smoke to get him to stop and eventually murdered in Belarus
@djkinetic2020
@djkinetic2020 11 ай бұрын
Prigozhin is all about self-preservation. When the Ministry fo Defence bomb one of his camps, he got mad and marched to Rostov he is only afraid of getting killed.
@joker_g7337
@joker_g7337 11 ай бұрын
Putin told him "if you move any further, I'll use a tactical nuke."
@yawos9024
@yawos9024 11 ай бұрын
Prighozhin is not that powerful in Russia. He is a billionaire who knows exactly who butters his bread. If the Russian state wants to take him out, he know they can do that with ease - even if he were in Belarus.
@larryc1616
@larryc1616 11 ай бұрын
@joker_g7337 that would be great! First nation to nuke their own people and country 🤣🤭
@monmixer
@monmixer 11 ай бұрын
This very well could be just another one of their stunts and it sure looks like it to me.
@nightslasher9384
@nightslasher9384 11 ай бұрын
I’m sorry but HOW?! I was expecting something bloody AND I WANT BLOOD TO BE SHRED!!! 😡
@Aman-bc3rs
@Aman-bc3rs 11 ай бұрын
He would miraculously feel off a window after some years..till then he will enjoy a good life in belarus
@102.5MagicFM
@102.5MagicFM 11 ай бұрын
Lukashenko will deal with Prigozhin for his buddy Vladimir. Hard to believe Prigozhin fell for this.
@michaelholopainen2822
@michaelholopainen2822 11 ай бұрын
You forgot how Putin conveniently just few weeks ago moved nuclear missiels into Belarus. Now that Wagner APPEARS not longer be under Putin's direct command, if they were to "capture" nuclaer missiels and launch them to NATO coutnries it would not APPEAR to be done under Putin's command. Specially since it now also APPEAR that the moving of Wagner into Belarus was Putin's idea.
@smashhimmungo5798
@smashhimmungo5798 11 ай бұрын
Yeah eating lobster and drinking champange !
@MrNeversweat
@MrNeversweat 11 ай бұрын
This means "Wagner is just hours away from Kyiv", well done chess players
@jcangelus1157
@jcangelus1157 11 ай бұрын
You are right..wagner will attack from behind
@smizmi5467
@smizmi5467 11 ай бұрын
"The restaurant is closed" Did he just throw that in there or is that something people are actually saying oh my dear
@nesbertshamu2888
@nesbertshamu2888 11 ай бұрын
What a free floating electron 🤦🏾‍♂️
@nobledarkmoon
@nobledarkmoon 11 ай бұрын
I think Prigozhin was summoned to Moscow. But he brought many troops with him. In all likelihood, there will be attempts now to use Belarus more strategically to cut aid supply lines in Ukraine. It looks also like the cold war tactics are starting up again.
@lionheart1321
@lionheart1321 11 ай бұрын
The brutality and defeat of Wagner in Ukraine were suddenly forgotten when they came home like heroes doing nothing. But one thing is for sure, the world witnessed that the people of Russia supported those who opposed Putin.
@user-ir5sh2kk7c
@user-ir5sh2kk7c 11 ай бұрын
Вагнер из Белоруссии пойдёт захватывать Киев!
@Josegonzales-xn9fg
@Josegonzales-xn9fg 11 ай бұрын
So you will completely ignore the fact Prigozhin is a Russian patriot and would be worse for Ukraine than putin? You will completely ignore that it was a confrontation between hardliners vs Wagner even more hardliners? Why are you like that? Why do you ignore huge facts like that?
@lionheart1321
@lionheart1321 11 ай бұрын
@@Josegonzales-xn9fg Huh? Are you in the same frequency as mine? Coz I can't understand you, really.
@kaleosniffeb6372
@kaleosniffeb6372 11 ай бұрын
Was there any troops engaged in keeping Wagner in check in the city square? Idk. Didn’t see any.
@vjaysan
@vjaysan 11 ай бұрын
It may have been better to fight another day.
@charley408
@charley408 11 ай бұрын
There is no way Putin let's this one go
@michaelholopainen2822
@michaelholopainen2822 11 ай бұрын
He is not he will give Prigorzing Billons once Wagner captures the nuclear missiels Putin jsut moved tin ot Belarus and launch them agisnt NATO countries believing that will keep Putin's hands clean. I am sure NATO will see through this sharade and and nukes Moscow for retaliaton. Prigorzing and Putler will be sitten in Putin's luxory bunker.
@Iraia_Roberts
@Iraia_Roberts 11 ай бұрын
Putin, Pregozhin and Lukashenko. What could possibly go wrong?😮
@michaelholopainen2822
@michaelholopainen2822 11 ай бұрын
Moving nuclear missiles and Warner forces into Belarus together.
@marcelvanlierop
@marcelvanlierop 11 ай бұрын
Prighozins window of opportunity has gone out of the window...
@themeanestkitten
@themeanestkitten 11 ай бұрын
Stay away from open windows mr. Prigozhin💀
@deecee1522
@deecee1522 11 ай бұрын
Putler: "I DONT NEED AMMO I NEED A RIDE !!! HURRY!!!"
@buckaroobonzai2909
@buckaroobonzai2909 11 ай бұрын
I want a Lukashenko action figure.
@SimonBrisbane
@SimonBrisbane 11 ай бұрын
🥚
11 ай бұрын
Here you go. 🥔
@jontukagam3888
@jontukagam3888 11 ай бұрын
His gon get ambush there 😬
@rishisinha1426
@rishisinha1426 11 ай бұрын
Why is everyone so worried about Prigojin. Anything is possible.
@jowefasolutions4791
@jowefasolutions4791 11 ай бұрын
Tell them
@cathyallen3967
@cathyallen3967 11 ай бұрын
So much for the fiction that Prigohzen did this because he cared about his soldiers lives.
@randomgrinn
@randomgrinn 11 ай бұрын
Nothing a leader in a dictatorship says should ever be taken seriously. It is a waste of time to even listen to what they say.
@DRob-gq3ki
@DRob-gq3ki 11 ай бұрын
Prigohzen Is the only russian elite actually fighting on the front lines with a rifle that makes him dangerous to putin because ordinary russians love him secretly more than putin
@jimbanda
@jimbanda 11 ай бұрын
True. He simply went out of his mind and will be treated as that, in a mental institution...... He cooked his own Goose I think. 😊
@deleqtronica8733
@deleqtronica8733 11 ай бұрын
@@jimbandathere’s already execution videos being posted, RA soldiers are seen executing Wagner soldiers who took part in the coup.
@MrKjackson911
@MrKjackson911 11 ай бұрын
@@deleqtronica8733 Any links? Please show me.
@aaronzulu8706
@aaronzulu8706 11 ай бұрын
A moment he seems people welcoming his ideas, he can be tempted to go further
@pjk1714
@pjk1714 11 ай бұрын
It was said yesterday, the men would enlist under the Ministry of Defence and be disbursed under its rules and requirements. By doing so, not charged with treason.
@phillustrator
@phillustrator 11 ай бұрын
Prigozhin just won himself a lifetime supply of polonium tea 🎉🎉🎉
@TomRelubbus
@TomRelubbus 11 ай бұрын
The Belarus border is only about 50 miles away from Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine A couple of days ago, Prigozhin was about 400 miles from Kyiv, now after his "coup", he's in Belarus - and could be as close as 50 miles from Kyiv...
@LowenKM
@LowenKM 11 ай бұрын
He's also a lot closer to Moscow now than he was in Rostov...
@tylermoffitt387
@tylermoffitt387 11 ай бұрын
I just had this conversation with a friend. Definitely need to keep our eyes on Wagner and Belarus.
@ras3015
@ras3015 11 ай бұрын
Ur brain thought all the Wagner soldiers went to belarus with jevgeni :DDDDDD??????????????????????????????????
@Harrier_DuBois
@Harrier_DuBois 11 ай бұрын
They could have done that without the coup though... instead Putin now looks weak and is in fact weaker to any rivals waiting to take his place.
@nawookies
@nawookies 11 ай бұрын
don't forget about the nukes that are to be moved there.
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