Why didn't Elrond destroy the One Ring? The Lord of the Rings | Middle Earth

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According to Elrond's own account in The Lord of the Rings, when the Last Alliance of Elves and Men and Sauron were at war, Isildur cut off Sauron's finger and took the One Ring. But then he refused to destroy it in Orodruin, where it had been made. So why didn't Elrond destroy the One Ring there that day when he had the chance?
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00:00 intro
00:23 Last Alliance
01:43 The Origins of Isildur
03:57 Numenor's help
04:50 The moment of the incident
06:17 First reason
07:08 Second reason
09:04 Third reason

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@patrickmuscia9007
@patrickmuscia9007 23 күн бұрын
He would have had to kill Isildur to destroy the ring and that would have led to a war between the elves and men.
@GeraldM_inNC
@GeraldM_inNC 21 күн бұрын
I would go a step further and state that the ring would not only make Isildur refuse to destroy it, but that it would empower Isildur to kill Elrond and Cirdan. The ring is not passive. It has a will to survive, a will to return to Sauron, and all the power necessary to accomplish both things.
@Alexinytown
@Alexinytown 20 күн бұрын
If Mt. Doom erupted after the ring was destroyed Elrond could have just said Isildur died trying to escape 😂. But that's assuming Elrond would have known about the eruption ahead of time.
@Knight860
@Knight860 25 күн бұрын
I think it was stated that at the time Sauron was defeated that Elrond and Cirdan believed that no good could come from Isildur holding onto the ring, keeping in mind that the nine rings given to men had corrupted them into the Nazgul, they may of envisioned a similar fate for Isildur. From Gandalf's conversion with Elrond when the former discovered that the Necromancer was Sauron, Elrond did state that he had a suspicion that Sauron might return with the ring still around but wasn't sure and in hindsight, should of done more to make sure the ring was destroyed.
@RJ420NL
@RJ420NL 24 күн бұрын
As we saw with Sam in the tower, whoever possess the One Ring becomes imposing and commanding. Elrond was intimidated by Isildur.
@theblackflame4002
@theblackflame4002 24 күн бұрын
The guy had the ring in his hands for a hot minute,not to mention Elrond was a bad ass so I call BS on that.
@youcanttakemyDIGNITY
@youcanttakemyDIGNITY 23 күн бұрын
​@@theblackflame4002😲 Your name flippin RULZ 🖤🤍🖤🤍
@theblackflame4002
@theblackflame4002 23 күн бұрын
@@youcanttakemyDIGNITY Thanks, a Levay reference. I named the club in my erotic horror novels the Black Flame as well.
@jakeandollie11
@jakeandollie11 25 күн бұрын
Really enjoying your videos, keep up the good work 👍
@cpisces609
@cpisces609 25 күн бұрын
Yeah not really sure if he knew Sauron would return or not but the last point that it would have sparked a massive war between men and elves is most likely what kept him from doing anything drastic.
@bongbongGAMING7878
@bongbongGAMING7878 20 күн бұрын
Just a tiny correction: Elrond finally did get the chance to convince Isildur to give up the ring to be destroyed, but the King was sadly ambushed on his way to Rivendell.
@josephhoskins7354
@josephhoskins7354 24 күн бұрын
The AI generated stuff doesn't bother me at all. I'm always looking forward to your next videos. Truly, good job and thank you.
@imwize123
@imwize123 19 күн бұрын
Elrond couldn’t persuade Isildur to destroy the ring so they could make Lord of the Rings 😅
@Crafty_Spirit
@Crafty_Spirit 24 күн бұрын
If Elrond indeed thought that he would get another chance to discuss the Ring issue with Isildur again, he was correct in the sense that according to Unfinished Tales' account, Isildur shortly before his death decided to surrender the Ring to the Keepers of the Three. I'm glad that Elrond did not participate in what would be allies turning on each other because they cannot agree how to share the spoils of war. Elrond would not follow the self-destructive path of the Fëanor's house.
@youcanttakemyDIGNITY
@youcanttakemyDIGNITY 23 күн бұрын
Thank you Dragon my friend 🙋🧡
@theblackflame4002
@theblackflame4002 24 күн бұрын
Because....we wouldn't have had a story is really what it comes down to because considering the war they'd just fought, the loss and devastation, there is no way Elrond doesn't just chuck Isildur into the fire along with the ring....sparing one life led to countless lives lost.
@moretriflenowplz1837
@moretriflenowplz1837 24 күн бұрын
Would have pushed him in and said they were ambushed. But after the movie that volcano erupted, chances are they both would have unknowingly died regardless..
@ericlancaster412
@ericlancaster412 21 күн бұрын
Maybe Elrond was smart enough to know that trying the seize the ring by violence for any reason under any circumstance is like trying to extinguish a fire with napalm. The ring would always turn the violence to its own ends. It would never ever work. Doing it on mount doom during the middle of a battle is even worse. Whether it would have sparked a war between men and elves, either that or something else just as bad would have happened. This is the Boromir error - treating the ring like an ordinary object, where you can just take it, use it to your ends, and put it away - it doesn't work like that. The great and powerful couldn't have destroyed it by being powerful, it required mercy, patience, humility, faith. Then evil destroyed itself.
@lake_cooper
@lake_cooper 24 күн бұрын
Makes sense now 👏👏👏👏👏👏
@thomasmain5986
@thomasmain5986 20 күн бұрын
Fairly obvious Isildur was a King, he had taken the Ring himself in battle, so the Ring was his to dispose of. If Elrond had taken the Ring by force, it would have been war between men and elves. Elrond is not able to see the future, so he had no idea what the outcome of Isildur's decision would be. If you do not know for certain what the future will be, it is impossible to act.particularly in such a drastic way.
@sayagarapan1686
@sayagarapan1686 25 күн бұрын
Let’s save a way too long video and get right to the answer: “Because Isildur had it.” Elves do not attack allies, nor do they impose their wills on others, nor do they, even in the face of great folly, change this basic nature. They wanted it gone like hell, but weren’t willing to turn on Isildur, and eventually any questioning Dunedain, to see it done. Simple. There I saved you a video.
@SerginhoPMoura
@SerginhoPMoura 20 күн бұрын
Exactly. And Elrond knew that the Ring feeds on evil, had he attempted to take the Ring from Isildur through force he himself could succumb to its power and be ensnared by it. For that same reason Galadriel and Gandalf refused.
@DanCBoyle
@DanCBoyle 19 күн бұрын
The events that occurred in the movie are not the events that occurred in the text. The movie made out Isildur to be a weak leader who instantly gave in to the influence of the One Ring. That’s not what Tolkien wrote…Isildur was killed en route to destroy the Ring.
@willnitschke
@willnitschke 24 күн бұрын
Because... plot needed it. Next question.
@bruderk4257
@bruderk4257 21 күн бұрын
I agree. And the generated voice is fine with me.
@TexasTimeLord
@TexasTimeLord 24 күн бұрын
Why didn't Gandalf show Elrond Bilbo's ring when they stopped off in Rivendell on the way back to the Shire from the Lonely Mountain? Surely a ring that could make you invisible would be concerning, especially since both Gandalf & Elrond knew about the Ring and Elrond had actually seen it before! Even if Gandalf thought it was a lesser ring, Elrond SHOULD have been shown it!
@ms0824
@ms0824 21 күн бұрын
Did Gandalf know about Bilbos ring at that time?
@michaelmedlinger6399
@michaelmedlinger6399 21 күн бұрын
Let‘s remember that when Tolkien wrote The Hobbit, the ring was just a device to make him invisible and allow him to be a skillful burglar. It wasn‘t until later that Tolkien made it the One Ring and attached so much importance to it. Gandalf knew Bilbo was hiding something, but he didn‘t know what exactly the secret was. In The Fellowship of the Ring, Gandalf describes how he had to pry Bilbo‘s secret out of him, but again, this was after Tolkien‘s decision to make something special out of the ring.
@rogerbrownreacts8528
@rogerbrownreacts8528 25 күн бұрын
If he did anything the Race of Men would have Unalived the Elves.
@dominicgo477
@dominicgo477 21 күн бұрын
I always thought it was because the Ring was claimed as "weregild" by Isildur, which would've been quite a sacred thing. Elrond would have no right to force the destruction since the Ring was not his. And since Elrond was a goody two shoes, he did not do anything else except tell Isildur off.
@ripLunarBirdCLH
@ripLunarBirdCLH 21 күн бұрын
Well, there is one thing reinforcing your opinion that if Isildur survived a little more, then Elrond would be able to persuade him to destroy The One Ring. The Ring had abandonded Isildur soon after. And it knew better than anyone whether Isildur would be persuaded into destroying it or not. Isildur was, after all, The High King. He could take The One Ring wherever The Ring would whisper him to go. A very convenient bearer. So why did The Ring decide to abandon him? I'd say it's because Isildur haven't completely forgotten Elrond's advice and The Ring knew it. Also there is one more reason Eldond didn't take The One Ring by force you failed to mention. If Elrond did it, he'd open himself to The Ring's power. Because The One Ring works far stronger on those who have taken him from the previous owner by force. This is why The Ring had trouble with Frodo. Because Frodo didn't take The Ring from Bilbo by force. He received it as a gift.
@BramptonHughes
@BramptonHughes 17 күн бұрын
I always thought he could have pushed him
@philomat666
@philomat666 18 күн бұрын
What if they were just friends? And Elrond didnt want to kill his friend?
@Micropops
@Micropops 23 күн бұрын
Because...Reasons!
@michaelkiese7794
@michaelkiese7794 17 күн бұрын
Then Tolkien would have nothing to write about.
@Sh5h5h
@Sh5h5h 20 күн бұрын
didn't Isildur come to his senses and was he not on his way to bring the ring to the Elrond when we was killed
@GreatGreebo
@GreatGreebo 20 күн бұрын
Yep
@josephnoneofyourbeeswax8517
@josephnoneofyourbeeswax8517 19 күн бұрын
Agent Smith is everywhere.
@dany1441
@dany1441 3 сағат бұрын
Elrond could have easily taken the ring from Isildur. The fact that virtually no one understands why he didn't speaks to the lack of morals and principles of modern society.
@garrettrussell7281
@garrettrussell7281 21 күн бұрын
Then there wouldn’t be any books.
@darush246
@darush246 20 күн бұрын
because of plot armor
@universalflamethrower6342
@universalflamethrower6342 24 күн бұрын
That is why Joshua commanded the Israelites not keep war booty from the Canaanites, it was all cursed
@aevenova9780
@aevenova9780 20 күн бұрын
Issel-Door 😂
@connor_phillipz5689
@connor_phillipz5689 17 күн бұрын
Ai voices are a complete turnoff for videos like this. I can stomach it for shorts, but it always feels cheap and low quality. No matter how well researched or written the video might actually be. I'm sure there are people who don't care, but it's always going to be a limiting factor for you.
@eurisko3676
@eurisko3676 24 күн бұрын
If Elrond wasn’t Isildurs equal, why was he on his way to give Elrond the ring at the time he was killed?
@ms0824
@ms0824 21 күн бұрын
That was Isildurs choice, not a declaration from Elrond.
@eurisko3676
@eurisko3676 21 күн бұрын
@@ms0824 And that has anything to do with want I said how? Isildur felt Elrond was the only one capable of knowing what to do with the ring. That means he respected him at least as an equal, or perhaps superior to himself.
@ms0824
@ms0824 21 күн бұрын
@@eurisko3676 no it doesn't.
@eurisko3676
@eurisko3676 21 күн бұрын
@@ms0824 Oh great comeback.
@ms0824
@ms0824 21 күн бұрын
@@eurisko3676 I'm not here to speculate as you are. I just went with what the writings said. 🤷
@TheHuggybear516
@TheHuggybear516 24 күн бұрын
Mostly for the plot
@JohnnyJaxmusic
@JohnnyJaxmusic 24 күн бұрын
Use more AI art bro, it’s awesome. Or moving AI art
@lfyoung
@lfyoung 20 күн бұрын
Simple answer. It’s a made up story and you have to have things happen to move the story forward. lol. People need to stop looking for answers to these silly questions. This is how he wrote it and so this is why it is the way it is. Have to have some kind of drama to move the story forward.
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