Why didn't the Netherlands gain territory after World War 2? (Short Animated Documentary)
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2 жыл бұрынMany gained land from their axis occupiers in World War 2. The Dutch did not. So why?
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@JarNO_WAY 2 жыл бұрын
The tiny bit of land that the dutch kept, known as Duivelsberg (or devil's mountain) consists mostly of forest, the only buildings that are there present day is a tiny campsite as well as a pancake restaurant. So technically, the Netherlands just annexed pancakes from Germany.
@mzple 2 жыл бұрын
Based
@average-osrs-enjoyer 2 жыл бұрын
Wait wtf I've been there loads and never knew it had that history!
@theMoerster 2 жыл бұрын
Not too bad but they should've held out for waffles from Belgium instead
@blueseanomad7435 2 жыл бұрын
This comment should be pinned.
@thekingoflordagames3517 2 жыл бұрын
worth it
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video! When the territory was returned many merchants parked their goods in the soon-to-be-German-territory-again in order to avoid border fees. And it worked. Their goods were now on German territory free of charge.
@semperfidelis9083 2 жыл бұрын
James Bizzonette chiefly among them.
@jhiediet 2 жыл бұрын
Isnt that called the Night of Elten or something like that? Edit: got it, Eltener Butternacht. Thanks for reminding me of this historical feat!
@monkeydank7842 2 жыл бұрын
Worth a longer video of you?
@groerhahn225 2 жыл бұрын
That's genius!
@TurquazCannabiz 2 жыл бұрын
Stefan the legend back at it with the random facts
@muskatDR Жыл бұрын
Netherlands: Can we get some lands to the east? UK: Nah Netherlands: *expands into the sea*
@prity5631 3 ай бұрын
soon they will occupy uk when they have build enough land trough the sea😆
@Kjoyhen 2 ай бұрын
If we cant get land on land, we'll get the damn sea
@pizzapersona9320 2 жыл бұрын
I never knew the netherlands tried to get land in the first place, it's very interesting how different my country could've looked after the war
@robertneven7563 Жыл бұрын
de Nederlanders hadden geen recht op meer land, het waren toch de vriendjes v d Duitsers in de 2de W O??, ook in de eerste W O waren ze toch zooooooo neutraal, forget its, Nederland sloot de westerschelden af in de eerste zodat de Britten en de Belgan geen support meer kregen langs die kant, W O en nam willemhelm met de pinhelm onder ze vleugels , in Doorn kon de woodpecker rustig leven tot ze n dood,
@chrisboogerd3031 Жыл бұрын
G E K O L O N I S E E R D maar ja we zijn dus gewoon genaaid door engeland iedereen kreeg land behalve wij
@JamesBond-lp9wr Жыл бұрын
Ja dat klopt. Maar ja ooit zal er toch weer een oorlog komen en dan wie weet.
@robertoneven2803 Жыл бұрын
@@chrisboogerd3031 T ja dan hadden jullie Nederlanders maar moeten mèè doen bij het bevrijden van jully land in 1944 1945, geen kloten hebben jullie gedaan bij de bevrijding van Nederland, waar waren de mariniers???????????????het K C T ?????????????????????????? Prinses Irene brigade????????????? na de bevrijding van Tilburg door the Britich army , meer bepaald de Schotten mocht de prinses Irene brigaden niet deel nemen aan de parade, hen aandeel in de strijd was te minetjes , dus??????????????????
@chrisboogerd3031 Жыл бұрын
@@robertoneven2803 valt ook niet veel te vechten als je verouderde militaire dienst hebt. Weinig mensen en wapens en training voor gevechten uit de 19e eeuw. De Nederlanders hebben gevochten voor alles wat ze waard waren maar na 4 dagen moesten ze opgeven. En tijdens de bevrijding hebben Nederlanders zeker wel gevochten maar onder Engelse vlag en als verzetstrijders. Leer je geschiedenis voor je domme opmerkingen maakt.
@fluffehpancakes1102 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing the Dutch they probably secretly asked for more Sea space
@hesseleritus4763 2 жыл бұрын
helogoland lol
@jelmer-hendrikveen2722 2 жыл бұрын
The spice must flow bruder
@grungepolitics 2 жыл бұрын
You mean future farmland
@Dear_Mr._Isaiah_Deringer 2 жыл бұрын
There's likely a dutch flag in Doggerland already.
@xander_21 2 жыл бұрын
of course we want more sea space we love the sea 😂
@niemandzuhause4897 2 жыл бұрын
I actually lived in of the towns that the netherlands occupied after the war. The village of Elten which is the northen one of the two shown on the map. Interesting side notes: 1. The german population in town had access to all the goods that were impossible to get in postwar Germany like coffee, sugar, chocolade etc. 2. in the night the village was returned to Germany, hundreds of trucks full of goods were parked in town because with the transfer happening at midnight they avoided all taxation and stuff because technically they never crossed the border. This was known as the Butternacht or butter night cause butter was one of the main goods transferred this way.
@ShantanuSuchil 2 жыл бұрын
So you mean to say, King Harlaus came knocking
@clavichord 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it also true that children born in Elten during the post-war period it was briefly part of Holland, gained Dutch citizenship, and that even today, there are a part of the population in and around Elten who have Dutch or dual Dutch-German citizenship due to the post war border change?
@billieticklish 2 жыл бұрын
Oh if borders today would just nudge a bit as conveniently lol
@Seethenhagen 2 жыл бұрын
"I didn't cross the border, the border crossed me!"
@vitus6897 2 жыл бұрын
@@clavichord yes, my aunt is one of those peoples. and even today our population is almost evenly split 50/50 between people of german or dutch citizenship. thats why we don't really care as long as you are from Elten. most people also speak or at least understand both languages.
@taleaherzig9757 Жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Germany and the Netherlands have had a border dispute for centuries, at the mouth of a river called the Ems. This river lies between the province of Groningen and the region of East Frisia (which is in Lower Saxony). This border dispute was only settled in 2014.
@Maxime_K-G Жыл бұрын
Damn, they already settled it? I thought they had just agreed to disagree but not make a fuss about it.
@ronaldderooij1774 Жыл бұрын
@@Maxime_K-G The settlement was that both countries will govern the disputed waters together.
@rb3058 Жыл бұрын
Das hört sich eher nach Bürokratie an und nicht nach einem "border dispute". Das kann man sich richtig gut vorstellen, wie beide Seiten nicht wussten, welche Behörde nun zuständig ist.
@taleaherzig9757 Жыл бұрын
@@rb3058 Also ist es ein Territorialstreit im ganz klassischen Sinne, er spielte bzw. Spielt nur keine große Rolle sowohl für Deutschland als auch die Niederlande.
@encycl07pedia- 3 ай бұрын
had*, not have had. That implies that the border dispute is ongoing, not settled.
@ilex471 Жыл бұрын
When the Netherlands were occupied by the Germans in May 1940, the local time was changed to German (Berlin) time, instead of Amsterdam time (difference: 15 minutes). A few weeks later, the Germans also introduced daylight saving time, so, within a month, the clocks went forward 1 hour and 15 min.. The daylight saving time was abolished immediately after the war ended, but the standard time was kept on Berlin time; again, at the request of the Allies.
@PhyrexJ Жыл бұрын
Sooo why is daylight saving time still around now then?
@marco26gdm Жыл бұрын
@@PhyrexJBecause it’s used all over the EU
@shodank9590 11 ай бұрын
ngl in german politics its discussed to get rid of the daylight saving time because its a bother to change the time 2 times a year lol :3
@Corpsorz 3 ай бұрын
@@shodank9590 same here in the Netherlands haha. actually i believe the idea was thrown in the EU by several other countries aswell. but got rejected. Personally i dont really mind the time difference. im good with whatever they decide :p
@etoiledageo 2 жыл бұрын
The story behind the tiny peace of land we got is actually pretty funny. One of the Dutch diplomats that was part of the negotiations to return the land lived close to it and liked to walk his dog there..
@junetan1733 Жыл бұрын
Seriously, that is kinda cute.
@GreenTF Жыл бұрын
Thats cute
@Hand-in-Shot_Productions Жыл бұрын
I didn't know that! As the other two replies said, its cute! Thanks for the info!
@jeanbethencourt1506 Жыл бұрын
That's adorable. Almost as adorable as the modern Dutch ditching their own language for English.
@TRGantz Жыл бұрын
@@jeanbethencourt1506 ?
@dimosthenistserikis5901 2 жыл бұрын
If you read the newspaper it's hilarious. This guy has put so much effort on every detail it's really wholesome. Great video!!!
@BTobiasJ 2 жыл бұрын
At 2:00 if anyone was wondering
@Jesse11788 2 жыл бұрын
"The treaty is a formality and won't have any geopolitical repercussions or immediate consequences. Quote us on that." Me: 𝙄𝙢𝙢𝙚𝙙𝙞𝙖𝙩𝙚 𝙨𝙞𝙙𝙚-𝙚𝙮𝙚 𝙢𝙚𝙢𝙚.
@MetDaan2912 2 жыл бұрын
One mistake: it says the Amsterdam government, but the Dutch government is not in Amsterdam but in Den Haag.
@georgios_5342 2 жыл бұрын
March 25th is also the Greek Independence day
@grizwoldphantasia5005 2 жыл бұрын
"Now in 2-ply", it's not just for birdcages any more.
@GlennnD 2 жыл бұрын
Another fun fact: In the place Elten which converted back to Germany there is still a restaurant named in Dutch "Het oude posthuis" (The old post office).
@Girell 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, even though I am from the Netherlands I never knew the Dutch government asked for that territory. It's interesting to imagine what would have happened if they actually did annex it (or parts of it)
@biggc73 Жыл бұрын
Dan had je de NRC moeten lezen .Daar heeft ooit een hele pagina ingestaan.
@zahra9890 Жыл бұрын
ja stel je voor aken had bij nederland gehoord. hoefden limburgers niet meer de grens over voor boodschappen, en Nederlandse kerstmarkt haha
@SuperHns Жыл бұрын
@@zahra9890 pik Aachen is toch bijna Nederland, ik kom uit Heerlen Noord voor ons is het echt 10 minuten in de auto lol. Wij zijn eigenlijk blij dat het Duitsland is nu, want boodschappen en benzine zijn goedkoper.
@zahra9890 Жыл бұрын
@@SuperHns ja dan is t idd beter dat er wel een grens is😆
@damionkeeling3103 Жыл бұрын
It would have been a disaster. Millions expelled, probably a large percentage would have left Europe altogether. The Dutch lacked the population to claim what was a very populated region and it would have fallen into decay. Which means that Germany would have been that much weaker later when NATO was formed to defend western Europe against the Soviets. It would have created a weak Germany in the middle of Europe and a large depopulated zone prime to be exploited by reactionaries. It would have screwed up the Dutch economy too as they'd lack that population base to trade with. I can understand why the British said no.
@flatscreengamer9725 2 жыл бұрын
1:09 Hamburg is not that far west. Its not in North Rhine Westphalia like you have it but further north and closer to the Danish border in the center-north of the country.
@Charlie-III 2 жыл бұрын
were he points on the map must be Hamm(Westfalen) not Hamburg. Hamm is an "important" city in North Rhein Westphalia and Hamburg is well 300km northeast... mistakes happen i guess :D
@benediktnett669 2 жыл бұрын
He probably meant "Hamm"
@foundationgamer9771 2 жыл бұрын
🤓 Seriously though thanks for pointing that out
@Zehnt1337 2 жыл бұрын
The pin points at the city of Hamm, a minor mistake I would assume. Not as important as Hamburg but still very important to the ruhr-area because Hamm had europes larges railway yard and was the railroad gateway to north, central and east germany
@laurinseidelmann6652 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zehnt1337 Indeed, also IIRC Hamm and its surroundings was one of the better coal reserves Germany still had access to
@salahabdalla368 2 жыл бұрын
2:00 "The government is said to be pushing for another territorial concession, this time at the expense of Belgium because in the word of Queen Juliana "its not like its a real country" Gotta love the detailed newspapers
@wilhelmdietz4023 2 жыл бұрын
She was right though.
@unduloid 2 жыл бұрын
Belgium is just one big waffle bakery. Oh, and fries. Gotta love Belgian fries.
@TheodoreServin 2 жыл бұрын
"The North Atlantic Treaty is a formality and won't have any major geopolitical repercussions or immediate consequences. Quote us on that." "After 11 hours of beratement, the British ambassador returned to the UK where he is undergoing psychological treatment." I really have to read these more often XD
@TheChill001 2 жыл бұрын
@@wilhelmdietz4023 well except for the fact belgium actually did something during WW2...
@StOscar 2 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic newspaper in these videos.
@teegrizzly39 10 ай бұрын
I truly enjoy this channel. Thanks for making it so easy to follow and fun to watch.
@jibberism9910 Жыл бұрын
Loved the illustrations!
@philipforinton5804 2 жыл бұрын
Video idea: What happened to the chartered trading companies? They're pretty important in the buildup of early colonialism and established the key colonies like India
@12_terabyte57 2 жыл бұрын
That's a very good video idea!
@cv4809 2 жыл бұрын
They would eventually become unprofitable and a burden for their respective governments, so they were dissolved
@minamagdy4126 2 жыл бұрын
Hudson's Bay Company is still the oldest operating corporation on Canadian lands. It recently rebranded back to that name from "The Bay" a few years ago. It's mostly a store nowadays (haven't been in one in a while)
@jyothireddy4246 2 жыл бұрын
@@12_terabyte57 After the rise of EIC in India, in British Parliament atleast a common question was asked, a company literally controls one of the oldest human civilizations in the world, and the parliament's fear was that they might officially declare independence like how it was done in British Americans colonies and function themselves, since EIC never behaved like a forgein power and was basically acting a Indian state who is fighting other Indian states and and British governers ruled like Kings themselves and sat on a King's throne and even though you could brush of this argument by saying they were British loyalists and would do no such thing like this, but this was an idea was considered by the company owners, so just imagine a what if this happened.
@mrterp04 2 жыл бұрын
@@minamagdy4126 there’s an urban legend that each store has beaver pelts on hand because the Hudson Bay Co was compelled to give them to the British King or Queen upon a visit, but apparently it’s not true.
@xsXRevanXsx 2 жыл бұрын
Always a fun time when history matter releases a Dutch themed video.
@jonbaxter2254 2 жыл бұрын
Gekolonised?
@geenkaas6380 2 жыл бұрын
ja heel leuk
@chrisklenke9681 2 жыл бұрын
“Historically, prime ministers aren’t food”
@12_terabyte57 2 жыл бұрын
Same, definitely if it's a WW2 video like this one
@aqualix4662 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisklenke9681 haah ja die was mooi
@m33st3rdanny Жыл бұрын
Funfact!: the middle piece on the dutch landmap is called “Flevoland” and it didn’t exist yet after the war! It used to be just sea!
@kotlolish 3 ай бұрын
Basically the dutch went: "Well if we can't take land? FINE! We will make it ourselves!"
@jaspermooren5883 3 ай бұрын
@@kotlolish Funily enough a significant portion of it (the Noordoostpolder) was completed in 1942, in the middle of German occupation. So part of it immediately got annexed the day it was made land. We did get that back though after the war. So in a very twisted way you could argue we annexed the Noordoostpolder from Germany, even though the project began long before the war started. In fact the first significant step, the Afsluitdijk, was completed in 1932, even before Hitler came to power in Germany. And the Germans can't really take credit for any bit of it. They just didn't actively kill an ongoing project.
@LHSMeleeClub Жыл бұрын
I LOVE HOW EXPRESIVE THE ANIMATED CHARACTERS ARE
@someguysomeone3543 2 жыл бұрын
0:41 seeing the US move into frame as if the country became a moving island was strangely horrifying.
@ninoy4914 2 жыл бұрын
It was like a massive whale
@eman-Ali760 2 жыл бұрын
It's called continental drift
@karnickel-s33d16 2 жыл бұрын
We're coming to give you freedom. Do not resist.
@Podzhagitel 2 жыл бұрын
“IS THAT… THE EASTERN SEABOARD!???!! AHHHHHH!!!! I’M GOING INSANE!!! HELP ME!!!”
@charloux3448 2 жыл бұрын
Foreshadowing?
@Smulpaap123 2 жыл бұрын
1:20 "Plan Bij", love it. For those wondering, "bij" means "bee".
@deutschermichel5807 2 жыл бұрын
Bÿ
@ronaldbos9345 2 жыл бұрын
And for the few people wondering how you actually pronounce the letter 'B' in Dutch, it's pronounced as 'bay'.
@rubenvanbelzen1940 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh now I get it, even though I’m Dutch lol
@lily6246 2 жыл бұрын
@@rubenvanbelzen1940 hahah nice one
@jaspermooren5883 3 ай бұрын
Haha, even though I'm Dutch, I didn't even get it either. I was thinking of 'bij' as in the English word 'by' or 'with', which is the other translation for 'bij' depending on context, in which case it wouldn't make sense. I was pretty confused by that one. But yeah, it also means 'bee'.
@MCharlerySmith Жыл бұрын
Fascinating! Thank you, History Matters.
@ilya.petersen Жыл бұрын
That little piece of land we kept is just around the corner from where I live. It is mostly a nature reserve consisting of hilly woodland. And the company I work for has its offices in a formerly German villa (house Wylerberg).
@gerdforster883 2 жыл бұрын
The bit of land the Netherlands got to keep is an uninhabited hill. Which was fair, as hills are kind of a rare commodity for the Dutch, while Germany has lots of them. They still clog up the Autobahn with their caravans going to german mountains, though. So maybe we should have given them more than just one.
@ottokern1001 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated)
@elorani1714 2 жыл бұрын
Should have given them Kilimanjaro back when German East Africa was a thing. Definitely would not have created any issues.
@MagiconIce 2 жыл бұрын
No, that we have to endure their Caravans is punishment enough for occupying them in the 40's.
@d3al3rplays68 2 жыл бұрын
Could counter that with the Germans still trying to oqupy our beaches, Germans still digging foxholes overthere all summer...
@xxxBradTxxx 2 жыл бұрын
Why is the sewage system in Amsterdam always backed up? Because it's full of clogs
@spudskie3907 2 жыл бұрын
Love the humor in the newspaper articles. "The primary opponents were the British whose foreign secretary said, 'Britain doesn't give other countries lands, that's not how this works. I mean, seriously, are you high?'"
@revinhatol Жыл бұрын
SIMPLE ANSWER: *Oldenburg.* EXPLANATION: The Danish, Greek and Norwegian monarchs were from the Oldenburg cadet branch, the House of Glucksburg.
@NoblesseObligeify 2 жыл бұрын
Being a dutchie I never knew this, nor even considered this an option. Thank you for the info
@oskarrasmussen7137 2 жыл бұрын
Virgin WW2 Netherlands: -Fights both Germany and Japan -Suffered hard, hard fighting on their territory -Was occupied -Got next to nothing despite being on the winning side. Chad WW1 Denmark: -Fought no one. -Got one of the greatest naval battles in history named after them, even though it neither happened on their territory nor involved any danes. -Maintained profitable trade relations with both sides. -Had to fight to not get more territory than they demanded despite not being on the winning side.
@oberstaffe2733 2 жыл бұрын
6 hours moment
@deusvult6920 2 жыл бұрын
True Chad's don't have sex before they're married. True Chad's can control their body not have their body control them. True Chad's don't let women have any power over them.
@badvideosto 2 жыл бұрын
@@deusvult6920 You ok there Buddy?
@giannis_m 2 жыл бұрын
@@deusvult6920 This is what too much reddit does to a mf
@BetaDude40 2 жыл бұрын
@@giannis_m I have a feeling they're about to make a very rational and reasonable reply. Everything about his post just *screams* "sane"
@shitzon 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: if you look at a highway map of The Netherlands, there's a mysterious gap between two roads (the Prinsenbaan and Provincialeweg) in Limburg. This is because the road was built through the then-occupied German territory. When it was returned, the Dutch retained the right to use the road without border controls but stopping on that stretch was not allowed.
@frido15 2 жыл бұрын
That's the route I take to work, I live in Heinsberg and work in Beek. Pretty cool just casually crossing the border 6 times each day. One of the many things I appreciate the EU for, and something that shouldn't be taken for granted!
@henryb.2941 2 жыл бұрын
It changed, the road is given back to Germany and is German territory now.
@k1llwizzy 2 жыл бұрын
Its the L410 near Selfkant for those of you searching for it. its not a highway, its a common road (highways are 130kmh, common roads 80), but on the german bit you can do 100kmh. When Schengen was formed, the system was no longer required and the road was once again 100% under german control.
@Tom-Lahaye 2 жыл бұрын
@@k1llwizzy This road was called the Neutrale weg, or Neutral road, it had no connections to the German road network. After the effectuation of the Schengen treaty Germany was given back control over this road and since then connections with other roads it crosses have been made. As a side note, the road was limited to 80km/h when under Dutch control, as the Dutch road laws were in effect then. It was not the only corridor trough Germany, a bit further south, just below Aachen, there is a corridor formed by a now defunct railway, the Vennbahn. Tracks are lifted now and it's a bicycle/footpath, but it's still a corridor belonging to Belgium, as the former Vennbahn crossed German territory between two parts that were in Belgium
@fosphor8920 2 жыл бұрын
@@frido15 it's great until you look further into it, then it become pretty disgusting
@Brisingirraudhr Жыл бұрын
Hey great video, couldn't help but notice tho that Hamburg is not located where you pointed at in the video
@davineismont2264 Жыл бұрын
A question i've never asked myself but is really interesting
@aeonsolo 2 жыл бұрын
1:09 do you mean the town "Hamm"? The City of Hamburg lies far Northeast of Münster. Like farfar :P Anyhow, love the videos, keep it up.
@kaiserhhaie841 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, this makes sense. I was just asking myself the same thing
@yah5o 2 жыл бұрын
And by "Northwest" you mean north-east ;) almost north-north-east
@aeonsolo 2 жыл бұрын
@@yah5o haha yeee. East. West. Aren't those bourgeois categories?
@ReuterL 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, lets just call Hamm the new Hamburg. Noone will notice the difference. Lets also call New York, Springfield
@kaiserhhaie841 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReuterL what? Hamburg is not on the location Pinned in that video and it's also not in any of the Dutch territorial demands
@zacksung11 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you make these videos in the future: -Why does Belize exist? -Why isn't Brunei part of Malaysia? -How did France and Portugal possess cities in India, and why didn't the British Raj kick them out? -How did Brazil have an emperor, and what happened to the royal family? -And finally, why are there two Samoas? Lovely video, as always. I'm excited to see your next topics.
@leeham1405 2 жыл бұрын
Answers: Britain Britain Napoleon Britain Britain 'Educated guess'
@emlynselene1096 2 жыл бұрын
I would also suggest "Why does Liechtenstein exist", "Why does San Marino exist", and "Why does Monaco" exist. Interestingly the only one of those I don't know the answer to is Monaco
@Louis-qs9cj 2 жыл бұрын
@@leeham1405 nah the two samoas are because germany and the us
@Louis-qs9cj 2 жыл бұрын
@@emlynselene1096 simple answer: hre
@Guido_XL 2 жыл бұрын
- Why did Neutral Moresnet exist (for more than a century)?
@rustinpieces 2 жыл бұрын
I got the "Plan Bij" joke at 1:20. Smart humour!
@alexanderossia841 2 жыл бұрын
thx for the video. One never stops learning. Please double check the geographical location of Hamburg - you got it wrong I'm afraid ;)
@pagansbasin6657 2 жыл бұрын
Netherlands: please give us this land The Allies: I don’t even know who you are
@proactiveomnipresentvessel6569 2 жыл бұрын
Nah it be more like oh you silly rat baby
@tigervv6437 2 жыл бұрын
Actually they did. The Dutch merchant fleet had proven vital to allied war efforts, as did the refineries on Curaçao, which provided a big share of allied fuels.
@feddek9325 2 жыл бұрын
Without the Netherlands USA couldn't build its planes. All those plames where build with the bauxite deposits of Suriname.
@ShantanuSuchil 2 жыл бұрын
You know, that bit of land that proved too much for the British
@silverhost9782 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShantanuSuchil Britain ended up eclipsing them after the anglo-dutch wars though
@timvlaar 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, but one correction: whenever a close-up map of the Netherlands is shown, the modern map of the Netherlands is shown (with Flevoland), but Flevoland only came into existence in the 80's. The correct map is shown at 0:41.
@croozerdog 2 жыл бұрын
Wait you wont give us land? Fine. We'll make our own.
@Hilversumborn 2 жыл бұрын
@@croozerdog With Blackjack and hookers
@svdgnl 2 жыл бұрын
The Noordoostpolder was made in the 40 so in should be there and the flevopolder in 50 and 60.
@cyrilwiddershoven6437 2 жыл бұрын
@@croozerdog our goals is to take the entire north sea as land
@timvlaar 2 жыл бұрын
That still leaves the south of the province which didn't exist yet.
@DreB1986 Жыл бұрын
0:21 You only got the Selfkant region there, but missed the village of Elten, which is 60 miles to the north, near Arnhem. It was also Dutch from April 23rd 1949 till August 1st 1963.
@kongism Жыл бұрын
1:54 Corsica is gone
@jaspermooren5883 3 ай бұрын
Lol, they did acurately remove parts of Flevoland (because they didn't exist yet), but removed Corsica in the proces I guess.
@jasper265 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the thing you did with "plan bij" there. It took me a few seconds to get it was intentional and not just a mistranslation, but once I did, I thoroughly enjoyed the multilingual pun.
@ninjaturtledd 2 жыл бұрын
I was searching for this comment. Perfect pun.
@ronik24 2 жыл бұрын
1:08 I doubt that Hamburg is south of Münster... ;-) It actually is much further northwest than the top right corner of the shown territory... which does not even reach as far as Bremen.
@Charlie-III 2 жыл бұрын
were he points on the map must be Hamm(Westfalen) not Hamburg. Hamm is an "important" city in North Rhein Westphalia and Hamburg is well 300km northeast... mistakes happen i guess :D
@dw620 2 жыл бұрын
Good spot! (And somewhat glossed over quite how many ethnic Germans were refugees after being expelled from the East, too...)
@dutchgamerguy2446 2 жыл бұрын
Oh Bremen, Beautiful city of roadblocks and construction
@harenterberge2632 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: the Netherlands still has a border conflict with germany about the Eems estuary.I always wondered why the exchange of land deal was not used to resolve this conflict as well.
@ThomasPelk Жыл бұрын
1:09 Where the hell did you put Hamburg? 😆 But thank you for the information anyway.
@donmah06 2 жыл бұрын
The southern bit of returned land, Selkant and Tuddere, was built up by the dutch govt as a suburb for the nearby city of Sittard. So, most people in that municipality still live close to it while most of the rest is farmland. Also, the demograpics of this municipality is to this day quite weird and diverse; not only a lot of dutch and germans but also a lot of cultures from other coldwar-era NATO countries. I'm guessing this is probably because of the nearby NATO base near Geilenkirchen and the old important NATO regional headquarters in/near Maastricht (which was partially situated in caves underneath it, very cool! Pictures of it look really interesting, a lot of oldddd computers and other technical equipment and american cave-street names)
@JusticeCactus 2 жыл бұрын
The NATO base is located in Geilenkirchen not Kirchroa.
@thed542 2 жыл бұрын
The Maastricht base is now void and simply caves you can visit in the summer! It also hosts illegal raves too
@donmah06 2 жыл бұрын
@@JusticeCactus ahh thank you! yeah I forgot where it was exactly; plus the last time I searched for it on google maps you could see it but there wasn't any label for it yet
@donmah06 2 жыл бұрын
@@thed542 oooo yeah I heard about that as well!
@Laszlo5897 2 жыл бұрын
That's where my family's from. Quite surreal to see this comment.
@mees9704 2 жыл бұрын
And out of revenge for not getting any land the Dutch will now attempt to create a land border with Britain.
@mielBrouns 2 жыл бұрын
Yes we are coming for them
@Jack-Hands 2 жыл бұрын
DoggerlandPolder is a go.
@lily6246 2 жыл бұрын
Did you know that there is a landmass in between, or was, like its underwater now. But it was all connected as true neighbors! Britannica lost a lot of landmass to the sea and became an island on that point
@mielBrouns 2 жыл бұрын
@@lily6246 yes because they knew we where going to get them. But we still will mark my words. WE’RE COMMING.
@lily6246 2 жыл бұрын
@@mielBrouns lol, no let's reunite, that's more productive in this era;)
@LonKirk 2 жыл бұрын
Good video.
@Helvetia-1 Жыл бұрын
Great video and a lot of info I didn't even know about my own country, but one small mistake by mentioning the "Amsterdam Government" since we're governed from Den Haag and not Amsterdam
@tommy_clayton 2 жыл бұрын
"Britain doesn't give other countries lands, that's not how it works. I mean, seriously, are you high?" In the newspaper 😂
@no_one_of_that_name_here 2 жыл бұрын
1:03 that's not where Hamburg is
@GaladorLP Жыл бұрын
I was majorly confused on where the arrow for Hambur was. South of Münster?
@antimon5047 Жыл бұрын
Nice video but where you marked Hamburg on the map really hurt my soul
@volodask 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the "Plan Bij" - literally, "Plan Bee" in Dutch. So many Easter Eggs in your videos.
@GorgeDawes 2 жыл бұрын
Possibly the silliest, most niche joke of the series so far. Keep up the good work.
@dutchgamerguy2446 2 жыл бұрын
Belgium is no country
@volodask 2 жыл бұрын
@@dutchgamerguy2446 What are you talking about?
@lily6246 2 жыл бұрын
@@volodask I agree Belgium is still Dutch bound by blood honestly
@openthinker6562 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you can see piles of Butter at 2:32 in the building. Other comments say it’s a reference to how trucks parked their goods during the border change to avoid paying border fees, which worked!
@Lemau 2 жыл бұрын
"Plan Bij" - I sniggered. ☺
@marskavols1073 9 ай бұрын
you should do one on why Czechia did not get land when there were even territories that wanted to join them
@Muesli711 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately for the Dutch, James Bisonette wasn't on their negotiating team.
@CT--ov5ne 2 жыл бұрын
They lacked James bisonette funding
@mikespearwood3914 2 жыл бұрын
@@CT--ov5ne If only the Dutch set up a Patreon account!!!
@HoennMaster 2 жыл бұрын
WW1: Denmark take more land from Germany damn it! WW2: Netherlands stop asking for land from Germany damn it!
@fr0ntend 2 жыл бұрын
there was a different situation: 1. Denmark had a historical claim to schleswig-holsten 2. Denmark was offered it, after ww1, and also after ww2, but they would not be allowed to expel the germans that lived there. The Netherlands explicitly demanded the complete expulsion of the germans, similar to how east and west prussians were expelled from those lands. As the video explained this would cause a lot of work, not be fair to the germans who lived there and lets be real, it was not needed for the Netherlands the same way it was for Poland.
@HoennMaster 2 жыл бұрын
It's a joke guys, calm down.
@Victor-07-04 Жыл бұрын
@@fr0ntend I’m Dutch and I would’t have liked this, the shape of our country would be terrible
@jaspermooren5883 3 ай бұрын
@@fr0ntend Also the British were by far the most in the position of 'please let's not do Versaille again', much more so than Russia or France, and the US had no interested really in anything Western Europe, as long as denazification happened and the Europeans were fine with it. They just wanted peace and of course had a vested interest in keeping the communists at bay. As long as it didn't go to the Russians, they really didn't care wheter it was under British or Dutch rule. If the Dutch would have gotten this land after WWI they almost certainly would have been able to keep it after WW2 as well. Also the Netherlands is actually a pretty powerful trading and maritime power and always has been (even fought a few wars over it with the British, to the point of having Dutch royalty on the British throne for decades). It just isn't in the British interest to strenghten the Netherlands, while Poland was under Russian occupied territories and Russia had all the reason to create a bigger buffer state between Russia and Germany (Stalin was till the day he died super afraid of a WW3 started by Germany), which is geopolitically what Poland was. If the British had their say on what happened to east germany, they probably wouldn't have allowed that either, but instead of having to politically manouver against the Dutch, which was politically at their weakest point in centuries, they had to politically manouvre against the Russians, one of the 2 world super powers at the time. So the Russians got what they wanted, the Dutch didn't, who were basically at the mercy of whatever the allies were willing to do. They liberated us after all, not the other way around. In fact operation Market Garden, which was the liberation of the Netherlands, was almost exclusively performed by British and Canadian forces (who were still a British colony back then), so they quite literally liberated us.
@jaspermooren5883 3 ай бұрын
@@Victor-07-04 It does look weird, but that is just because you're not used to it. If we would have gotten it, you probably wouldn't have liked the shape the Netherlands has now.
@turkenheimer4448 Жыл бұрын
1:07 There is a second Hamburg and it is right next to where I live, in Hamm Westphalia ?! :0 I didn't know that. How could I miss that... But for real, you mixed up Hamm and Hamburg.
@matthiasvanderaa4870 Жыл бұрын
Plan bij, nice👍
@user-vm2wi8no1s 2 жыл бұрын
"The government is said to be pushing for another territorial concession this time at the expense of Belgium, because in Queen Juliana's words 'It's not like it's a real country.'" I love how much effort he put in the newspaper section. Legend.
@B_men_apo 2 жыл бұрын
A real slay queen
@itsblitz4437 2 жыл бұрын
Your profile pic and name is confusing. Is it Serbian or Japanese?
@klartraum8495 2 жыл бұрын
@@itsblitz4437 Serbianese. You are welcome
@itsblitz4437 2 жыл бұрын
@@klartraum8495 thank you sir, for that clever word play.
@BernasLL Жыл бұрын
"BUY CIGARETTES" by Superliminar Advertising Co. was pretty good as well.
@HayaseMTSR 2 жыл бұрын
I actually live in the area Germany bought back in the 1960's. There is to this day a lot of pro-Dutch sentiment here specifically from older people who still feel Dutch. Most younger people here, including me, just call themselves a weird mix between Dutch and German because while our passport says German and we speak German we grew up with a lot of Dutch culture and a lot of us also speak Dutch.
@5thMilitia 2 жыл бұрын
That is honestly pretty cool. Didn't know that it still has such effects till this day
@perrys1723 2 жыл бұрын
Where in Germany?
@HayaseMTSR 2 жыл бұрын
@@perrys1723 the over all area that got bought back is called "Selfkant" and it's the western most point of Germany today
@ReddoFreddo 2 жыл бұрын
You're telling me that after less than 20 years of Dutch rule the people there became Dutch culturally? Or were the Germans there removed and replaced with Dutch people?
@hendrikdependrik1891 2 жыл бұрын
Nou mooi, kunnen we daar direct even een paar volksrepubliekjes stichten.
@Hamji Жыл бұрын
Sorry, but what map of Germany did you use where Hamburg is south of Münster?
@leavealoner 2 жыл бұрын
I love the little Plan Bij joke, as a translation of Plan B(ee)
@Waaott 2 жыл бұрын
1:09 Since when is Hamburg this near to Münster?
@Charlie-III 2 жыл бұрын
were he points on the map must be Hamm(Westfalen) not Hamburg. Hamm is an "important" city in North Rhein Westphalia and Hamburg is well 300km northeast... mistakes happen i guess :D
@jaspermooren5883 3 ай бұрын
@@Charlie-III Hamm is not even that important, I guess he mistook it for Hamburg, which actually is an important city, but yeah, it's close to Denmark at the mouth of the Elbe and has never been in any Dutch claims for over 500 years.
@sharkronical 2 жыл бұрын
*gains very small lands *loses the only valuable colony
@markusz4447 2 жыл бұрын
Curacao has about 70 oil if you max out infrastructure :D
@sharkronical 2 жыл бұрын
@@markusz4447 the only thing Curacao is good for is to cheese and naval invade the US in 1937
@highbred Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha plan B =plan bij😂😂😂😂😂 that's funny sir well done.
@echoreus Жыл бұрын
Great video my only critic is that it could have been a 20 second animation instead
@peteranderson037 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently, the Dutch seem to like their territorial concessions. The reviews on Google Maps give it a 4.2 out of 5. According to the reviews it seems to be a good place to walk your dog.
@fancyfernando9687 2 жыл бұрын
Good video as always, but one small correction: at 1:08 I'm pretty sure you mean the city of "Hamm" and not Hamburg, Hamburg is way further up north.
@mandmand3132 2 жыл бұрын
@Ricky Smith ur a failure for ur country, hamburg isnt near anywhere near where the arrow pointed. hamburg is rather close to the danish border
@brickonblock5183 2 жыл бұрын
@Ricky Smith yeah but the marker points to Hamm. so either a error in the marker placement or in the text overlayed onto the marker or something completely different
@Heath580 Жыл бұрын
The Great Power stare: When a minor power makes a demand so unreasonable you have to hit em with that Great Power stare
@janverhoeff7628 2 жыл бұрын
Minor correction: the windmill you're showing has the sails reversed. The direction it's turning is correct, however the lattice should be behind the beam.
@dutchgamerguy2446 2 жыл бұрын
Proper Dutchman
@JacobBax 2 жыл бұрын
No Dutch windmills turn counterclockwise.
@MrJm323 Жыл бұрын
It's a giant solar-powered fan, you silly!
@MijmerMopper 2 жыл бұрын
One point I miss is that these plans where not widely supported within the Netherlands either. It is questionable to what degree the formal request was a negotiation tactic.
@micheljansen85 Жыл бұрын
It created something i like very much and currently live in. In the Selfkant (the southern part) we refer to it as; You are not in the Netherlands, but you havent fully arrived in Germany either.
@cclause29 Жыл бұрын
Do it with Belgium next and then Luxembourg for both world wars plsplspls
@donovanmike8003 2 жыл бұрын
“Never lands” makes more sense as a name now
@Delightfully_Bitchy 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, *you!*
@donovanmike8003 2 жыл бұрын
@@Delightfully_Bitchy 💁♂️
@rayoflight62 2 жыл бұрын
The level of care for details in this video is a masterpiece in itself! At 02:00, the front page of "The Amsterdam Times" is a best example, for how it is cured in detail. Even the ads and a meme: the "2-ply" newspaper ad - hints at the most common use - post reading - of the paper. The "Buy cigarettes" ad is a reminder of the unhealthy habits of the time. Well done, thank you!
@iwtkc 2 жыл бұрын
a masterpiece indeed.
@lily6246 2 жыл бұрын
Smoking wasn't that unhealthy btw. Your body does have nicotine receptors naturally. For the natives Americans Smoking was sacred and doctors promoted, that's no coincidence imo so I believe it has been made bad.
@miamiata7716 2 жыл бұрын
@history matters Your pre WWII map is incorrect as the province Flevoland didn’t exist yet. For the rest, nice video as always!
@daansstuff2952 Жыл бұрын
As a Dutch myself, I never knew about this history!
@jeddi5173 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that these developments weren't noticed by mappers bewilders me
@alexcunningham6674 2 жыл бұрын
Humble video suggestions: 1) How Swedish was Finland under Swedish rule? 2) Why did the Hanseatic League fail? 3) Why did the Kalmar Union fail? 4) (For April Fool's Day) A Short History of the Foundation (Your dry humor is perfect) Your videos bring me many laughs and teach me many things I didn't know, thank you so much!
@davidkasquare Жыл бұрын
A Swedish speaking Finn, I would love to watch #1.
@SimWlq Жыл бұрын
The Dutch were also known to be collaborating with Germany in a lot of cases, so their claims would probably be laughed out of the room for that reason alone.
@Raiser2024-pw6pp Жыл бұрын
yeah correct even if most dutch people will deny this. No other western country helped so much the nazis to get rid of their own jews.
@hans3770 11 ай бұрын
That is not true. Only a very small percentage of the Dutch were helping the Germans. In 1945, the Dutch population was 9.2 million, and 101,314 people were members of the Dutch fascist party, which is 1.1% of the Dutch population.
@LeonSittard Жыл бұрын
The part in the south which was given back to Germany in 1963 is called Selfkant and they speak the same dialect as in the mid of Limburg.
@Numba003 2 жыл бұрын
This is another question I hadn't really thought of to ask lol. I enjoy these that I haven't really considered before. Thank you for another interesting bite size snippet of history. Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)
@tv9049 2 жыл бұрын
1:21 the understated plan bee/bij joke makes me weep tears of joy
@Dragonwolfie11 Жыл бұрын
This is very interesting I live in the Netherlands and I never knew this 😮
@jasperiscool Жыл бұрын
‘Plan Bij’ made this Dutch viewer laugh out loud. ♥
@umgssda 2 жыл бұрын
When the Netherlands gave back the Selfkant region they kept control of a road they build as a transit route through there. The road was then totally unaccessible from the surrounding german land. This only changed in the 1990s when new intersections were added and it was integrated into the german road network.
@paleoph6168 2 жыл бұрын
0:04 "Compensation for occupation" what a motto 💯
@Klaas_F0X 7 ай бұрын
I think you confused Hamburg and Hannover at 1:08, but great video nonetheless
@TheKlikluk Жыл бұрын
Im not sure what map you used but to my knowledge Hamburg is definitively not inside the Ruhrgebiet between Dortmund and Münster. Hamburg is much much further up north of Germany. But apart from that a very neatly made video.
@cocafristyhoi1645 2 жыл бұрын
We did actually keep a little hill. Totally worth it in my opinion.
@james64ibm 2 жыл бұрын
I mean in 50 years or so it will probably double the area of the Netherlands above sea level, so I'd call it a great success.
@ressljs 2 жыл бұрын
So did you keep that just so you'd have something physical to look at and say, "YES, we took this from Germany?"!
@dalstein3708 2 жыл бұрын
It is called the Duivelsberg, and it is a really nice place for a walk.
@dextercochran4916 2 жыл бұрын
Put a windmill on it and plant tulips near it. It will be seen as historically part of Holland.
@TheKahim 2 жыл бұрын
😂
@stevemc01 2 жыл бұрын
0:34 Oof that’s pretty accurate… Mussolini was killed by partisans and hung up and humiliated. Hitler opted to play Furnace Simulator IV. Hirohito survived.
@eric-wb7gj 4 ай бұрын
TY 🙏🙏
@aceteroiid Жыл бұрын
“Plan bij” is funny asf
@ahennessy7998 2 жыл бұрын
The real reason is that the allies feared the power of the Dutch
@brianjonker510 2 жыл бұрын
No more superpower status for the tulip land
@deutschermichel5807 2 жыл бұрын
Gouda is too much of a threats for american liquid spraying "cheese"
@NickyHonings 2 жыл бұрын
it's not the first time the Dutch got fucked over by the French or English.
@wilhelmdietz4023 2 жыл бұрын
We would definitely dominate everything if we had a bigger country and population.
@rubenvanbelzen1940 2 жыл бұрын
@@deutschermichel5807 that’s definitely true
@larsvandenbiggelaar7380 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! One thing of note though, which you may or may not already know: the map that first shows up on 0:14 and then throughout the video isn't entirely accurate to what the Netherlands looked like right after WWII. The landmass in the middle of the country south of the IJsselmeer is what is now the province of Flevoland. However, the majority of this land was actually still part of the lake until the 50s and 60s, as it is artificial land created through reclamation. I think the story behind it all is quite interesting and worth reading through. I hope you can use comments like this to continue making great content in the future!
@NoNameX_X0 Жыл бұрын
2:29 “aw you guys, why so generous?”
@erikkz Жыл бұрын
Where did you say Hamburg was located...?
@Wolfeson28 2 жыл бұрын
0:40 I think one of the underappreciated aspects of WW2 is that some of the Allied leaders did actually learn from the aftermath of WW1 and so planned to handle the end of WW2 differently. - The demand for a formal surrender and subsequent occupation was made to avoid a repeat of the "stab in the back" myth, where Germany in particular perpetuated the idea that its army had never really been defeated. "Unconditional" surrender and occupation were meant to make clear to every citizen of the Axis nations that they had unequivocally lost, plus to ensure that the treaty terms were followed this time. - The Allies (Britain and the U.S. at least) also recognized the consequences of overly harsh treaty demands and leaving their defeated enemies destitute. So they avoided making economically-crippling demands and instead went out of their way to help their defeated enemies rebuild along with their allies. While these actions did have their own problems, and did also arise from political and self-interested reasons, they at least represent a clear attempt to learn from history and try a different course from what had clearly failed the last time. And the post-WW2 policies definitely succeeded for the most part, as the post-war histories of Germany and Japan help to make clear.
@EresirThe1st 2 жыл бұрын
So where do the rampant war crimes on German civilians fit into this? The us army even delayed going to Berlin because they wanted the red army to rape and murder as many Germans as possible
@xenotypos 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot that they dismantled Germany. It would have seemed even harsher than financial reparations if it had been done after WW1 (and that was the aim of France). But at least, there is less suffering from the population. I don't know if it would have been possible after WW1 though, even if Germany had unconditionnally surrendered for example. The unfairness would have been felt the same way. While after WW2, there wasn't really any room for such feelings due to... everything.
@Wolfeson28 2 жыл бұрын
@@xenotypos The dismantling of Germany only happened because the Soviets refused to withdraw from their occupation zone the way the other Allies did. That wasn't part of anyone's plan except Stalin, who just wanted to grab whatever he could.
@BananaRama1312 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wolfeson28 the french and british also took everything they could lol especially heavy industrial machines also the marshallplan was intended to stabilize a profit market for us exports, there really wasnt any generosity involved
@Wolfeson28 2 жыл бұрын
@@BananaRama1312 I didn't say there was generosity involved. I said that these actions (i.e. the Marshall Plan) did also arise from political and self-interested reasons. But even with all of that in mind, it was still a definitively different course than the victorious powers followed after WW1, chosen with that recent history in mind, and it proved far more successful.
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