"as long as I can ride, I'm happy" -quote of a lifetime

I'm mad alright, mad I don't have one!

They are very fun bikes my only complaint is people who ride them on non ebike Mtb trails. Most Mtb specific trails have very low budgets and are volunteer maintained.

It's not the bike making folks mad...it's how people ride them.

It's not an E-bike , it's an electric motorcycle. It has pegs. Put pedals on it then it becomes an E-bike. Not my definition. It is the definition according to the DOT. Im 6'4" 260lb so to big for that ride. Looking at the Rad fat tire. Be safe and wear a helmet.

They don't hate the bike.. usually the problem is the rider

Mountian bikers only hate when you use it on non motorized trails

I have a 2 stroke mx bike and I also have a surron. It's like a mountain bike and dirtbike at the same time. The best of both worlds. The speed and torque of a dirtbike, yet the quietness of a mountain bike so no one can get mad at you. It truly enables you to ride everyday without getting the cops called on you.

Facts! As long as you can ride and still have a smile on your face and not in a squad car. Why does it matter what it is? Everyone finds enjoyment in different things.no need for judgment

It's a love child of a dirt bike and a mountain bike

He said 2 stroke Solid guy

It’s an electric dirtbike They don’t have pedal power like a mountain bike, but they also aren’t big enough to be considered a motorcycle, and are built to withstand pretty much the same stuff dirt bikes do, therefore it’s just an electric dirt bike

Let’s just all agree that it’s fkn fun since buying mine I’ve had nothing but fun and met so many cool people who have them as well

“Mountain bikers swear it’s not a mountain bike” I mean that’s because it’s not, and in many places you wouldn’t be allowed it on an mtb or pedal bike trail. It has way to much power and speed to be safe for other riders in that situation and the tracks arnt designed for it. It is however absolutely a motorbike through. Mostly due to its motor. Anyone who says it’s not because it’s electric is being an idiot. But like you said it’s riding and having fun that’s the most important. Stay safe and enjoy it

I am a mountain biker but I wish I had one of these to ride in the street

I want a surron I think they’re great, and I’m a mountain biker my self and I think they’re great for stuff but some kids ride them through mountain bike tracks and do burnouts and that’s what puts a bad name on surrons

I’m 52 and had mine for a year and love it , ride to work and play

As a Mountain Biker, people get cranky about those things because allot of the trails we ride; we build and those tend to do a lot of damage, but during trail maintenance, owners of these things are no where to be seen.

Those FOX40s are sexy as hell my dude 😂. The "Electric motorcycle / E-bike" has been around since 1897.. people are just ignorant to history dude. There is a big difference between what people class as Electric Motorcycle and "E-bikes". An E-bike by definition adds extra torque to your own physical leg movements and pedal revolutions. An electric motorcycle is simply a motorized vehicle, just using an electric motor lol. All I know for an absolute fact, is that your bike is a beauty and looks so much fun haha. Ride safe brother.

dude youre making so much shorts, we want long videos. all these shorts arent enough for us! :p

The problem is that a lot of Surron consumers take these out onto public trails they’re not allowed on and tear everything up and risk the safety of other riders. Then they upload their footage, laughing at the people rightfully upset with them.

As someone who owns a motorcycle, a trail bike and a road bike, I think e-bikes are their own awesome category 😂 I want one.

Some have mtb forks and brakes but they're still not mtbs. They're missing pedals and cranks for a start

People just love to hate is all. And those hating just still haven't tried it yet! And this is coming from riding gas bikes for years

An actual E-Bike, one that's the same as that but with a pedal, will be very useful for me to get around town on short trips that doesn't really need car/motorcycle fuel to get wasted on. The pedal would be useful if you run out of battery too.

I absolutely love surrons, bit they are not a mountain bike nor a motorbike its in a class of it's own, it's inbetween

You're 100% without a doubt factual, me coming from mountain biking and me also wanting one of them...... I feel like they do not belong anywhere near "mountain bike, hiking, and horsebacking only areas"

the only hate I will add is make sure you go when the light turns green 😂

As an American you have the right to be as ignorant as you want to anyone

“A ton of torque” - this is why mountain bikers dislike these. They rip up the trails and then say “uhhh it’s a bike not a motorcycle 🤪”

surron is one of the best bikes ove seen in my life, can't wait to buy one osf these

If it has 2 wheels and it goes fast, someone is gonna be mad. Source: Sport bike owner

4 years owning a Sur Ron and I still love it!

in Norway it has to be registered to take it on the road as it's categorized as a motorised vehicle. And it can only be registered as a Moped... so can't go top speed legally. Except for on a motocross track/enduro track.

The problem is the power you get and none of the legal restrictions, a tiny little 50cc bike making a few horsepower that goes 30 needs a license to drive where as your incredibly powerful E-bike gets away with not needing a license and can be ridden way more places, now I wouldn’t want a 2 stroke dirt bike everywhere it’s just obnoxious to see new e bikes get away with so much that gas can’t and would be vilified for

I wish the state of Michigan agreed with you. According to Michigan it’s a motorcycle because it doesn’t have pedals.

I find these type of bikes to heavy for trails and destroy ramps and berms for mtbikers. They suit dirt tracks where pit bikes go better. I do a few recently in a national park where I live and the locals are getting angry as they’re destroying hiking trails and footpaths.

If I ever have a son, I want to send him to school on one of those😂😂

as a mountain biker I can say I don't hate it or call it a motorcycle, but if one were to be ridden on a non-motorized trail it would be pretty annoying. I would really like to try one sometime and I also think they should also be street legal.

As someone who grew up ragging crossers up country lanes these are one of the best things to happen for urban riders and younger riders who are in areas with stricter regulations on having fun

It’s a class 2 motorized bicycle. Same thing as a 50cc and below scooter, legal to ride on the street and in the bike lane with only a drivers license. No plate, insurance, or registration required.

I don’t hate electric motorcycles. I hate the a-holes that think they can ride them on trials that don’t allow motorized vehicles

The reason us mountain bikers don't like it, is because we spend a lot of our own personal time and money, maintaining trails and building features, and sirons are like dirt bikes in the fact that they destroy The features because the back tire tends to slip a lot just in normal riding on dirt

Pedestrians when they see an e-bike on the sidewalk: 😡 Cars when they see an e-bike on the road: 😡 Cyclists when they see an e-bike on the trail: 😡 Bikers when they see an e-bike anywhere: 😡 Cops when they see an e-bike anywhere: 😡

Some people can’t except new things but I’m glad these are made and gonna get one myself

It’s an electric motorcycle and what you don’t seem to appreciate is that many of these end up on trails, especially when wet, and cause massive damage. You’ve likely never picked up a tool in your life.

Bicycles have peddles...that here in New State would be an Electric Motorcycle.

First i thought it was a cycle😂

I ride mtb and wish I had a Surron those things are sick man

I ride downhill mtb and mx. Those surrons are awesome. People just like to complain about anything these days. Keep up the videos , they're great!!!

It isn’t a class 1-3 ebike therefore it is a motorcycle. Just sucks that they aren’t powerful enough stock for a full scale motocross track and aren’t allowed on mountain bike trails

It's because o lot of surron riders ride it very recklessly and often double the legal speed limit for the cars.

“As long as i can ride i’m happy” 🗿🗿🗿🗿🗿

this reminds me of when the ski cliquestarting hating the snowboard clique

As a long time dirt biker, and mountain biker. It definitely feels, acts and performs way more similar to a motorcycle than any e bike or mountain bike.

What’s awesome about Arizona is how many motorized trails we have to ride on. Just around Prescott there is probably 500 miles of trails to ride and experience. Maybe more.

In what world is that not just a motorcycle, bike + motor = motorcycle

I don’t wanna say anything until I try one

This would not be counted an E-Bike by DOT standards. The throttle and max speed alone make it pretty much a moped on a different frame.

I think it's cool, had all sorts of bikes throughout life... always wanted something like this

People love to complain about everything. Enjoy yourself and block out the noise

More like envoy. “I swear, I’m not on the fence about this.”

It's an E- Motorcycle, ride it where it's legal, no problem

As an ebike rider, it should definitely be classified as an electronic motorcycle.

I love this bike. I would get one myself but, the problem is it's over the watt limit to be classified as an e-bike in almost all states so it's an Electric Motorcycle. In PA it's simple if your bike is less than 100 pounds, 750 watts, and 20MPH. You're an E-Bike. Otherwise it's a motorcycle.

I'm a mountain biker and that is a motor bike. The damage these things do to my local trails is insane.

That's how I feel, I'm out riding everyday so people can say whatever the hell they want.

Super cool bikes and it’s awesome that they’re getting people out of cars. The problem comes from either cars driving like a holes when they need to share the road, or people on these bikes riding like a holes on mixed use paths meant for slower traffic.

In the uk, it's a moped (motorcycle). I wish these were classified as ebike, but it's over 250w and doesn't have pedals(stock)

"I feel like it just opens up more opportunities to RIDE A BIKE." Because you're actually Happy and Satisfied about RIDING just A BIKE of your choosing, it's seen as a true threat to their " Financial Credibility" giving what you can achieve with it.

That’s how it people treat high end bicycles… People tell me all day long I should have gotten a motorcycle I don’t want to register, Insurance, cops, court, tickets, oil changes…should I continue?? I can… But I love the bicycle aspect I can peddle and go faster especially going down hills e-bikes are monsters!!!

Bikes are for pedaling actually building stamina, motorcycles are fun to ride because you can go 120 mph .. e bikes ehhh.. for poor people who can’t afford a actual bike and who don’t work out

Man I need of these so bad! So clean looking best looking ebike that’s out

Its equivalent of a dirt bike. It is not meant to be ridden on mountain bike trails.

As a mountain biker, I have absolutely nothing against surrons, in fact, I would like to have one but there are so many surron kids that destroy local mtb jumps with their surron so that's why mtbers try to put surrons with dirt bike because of the weight.

Im a combustion engine lover but i also love surrons, they are really comfortable to ride and im short and it is small so i feel like it fits me perfect

Well as a talaria owner. I am fully insured and it’s taxed. But I still take it off road and places cars can’t go…people don’t like it. But who cares. Live your life the way you want to do it.

as a mountain biker, i love surrons

I cant complain about a well built ebike or what not, that thing looks solid

if u know the exact quality that u look for in a product, its actually really easy to be happy without over compensating

My only problem with is having tons of fun then waiting ages for it to charge, where as a 2 stroke it’s fill it up and go

I don't see why it matter what it is, if you can take it on the trail without getting stuck and be annoying, do what ever the fuck you want with it. Ride it on the trail, ride it on the road (if legal, or not, that's on you), ride it on bike paths; if you aren't a dick about it like a lot of Surron owners are, then it's all your game!

I mean the simple way i was told to stay out of trouble is noise and speed are what make the diffedence between being legal and needing to have a liscence and registration to ride it. Every state's MPH limit for needing to get a liscence is different thought.

The most fun you can have is on a small bike you can whip around easy and pick up and throw in your back seat. Nothing like going 70 on something that small. My mini bike was amazing as a kid with stage 3 mods on a predator 212cc. With a torque converter its crazy how cheap you can make them for the fun that can be had

It's basically like how BMX riders think of razor scooters at the skatepark

I always wanted one.i had 78 Ford 250 lariat.i got tired of the hate.lost it.be safe.

It's super quiet. Which can be a blessing and a curse

One thing ive noticed about america is the roads are always in bad condition

I think you said it right. As long as I can ride, I'm happy. it's been raining so much in LA. I can't wait to have a clear and sunny weekend so I can take out my mx4.

As a mountain biker and dirt bike rider, it is both. And neither. Mtb bikers are dumb because they think ebikes tear up trails. Dirt bikers dont claim these because they aren't even remotely close on power and range.

I highly doubt anyone who rides dirt bikes talks down on this thing. We all want one

Usually at least the last time I looked into it, the federal government says that if it's more than 24 volts and 250 watts, it's a motorcycle whether it has pedals on it or not.

Everyone finds a reason to harass me about my Surron! It’s amazing the psychological effect it has on boys and men. The ones that hate on it are always frustrated weirdo’s. It should come with the manual- how to deal with haters!

In my opinion they're just an electric motorcycle, no pedals no changeable gears and all, they just work like a motorcycle not at all like a bike. They're unnecessarily hated because the super high torque makes people want to have fun with them (reckless driving) and them being more in line with a bike in the eyes of the law makes it so anybody can buy one, so, more reckless teens. I think the surron and other light electric motorcycles like these are amazing

im a mtb person but im mad i cant get one😂

The first respectable surron rider

As a mountain biker i love this even tho its more on the dirt bike side

If you consider this a bicycle you should look up the definition of one.. lol. People are clueless. It’s an electric motorcycle. No question about it

The real question is why do they even care. If you don’t like it don’t buy it.

I ride a dirtbike I wouldn’t mind cruising on one of these seems pretty chill